Hola everyone.
So got my HOX last Friday, and been loving my phone. However, I decided to test the video recording capabilities.
I went to a nearby starbucks and just randomly recorded people passing by and I do notice slight jittering sometimes. So I decided to check the framerate with MX Player.
To my surprise, it says 1920x1080 @ 60fps! (well 59.xxxxx). Granted, it was a really well lit starbucks but even then.. I remember the camera only being able to record at 30fps?
Then I came back, and I'm in my room now and it's 7.30pm. So I decided to try again. I pointed my camera at my room light and started recording. I focused on the light so everything surrounding the light is just pitch black. This way I can get higher fps (light is way bright, hence faster shutter speed, theoretically more fps).
Then I checked and it shows @ 30fps? @[email protected]
I recorded another video, this time at a pitch black pc monitor. Fps dropped to an expected 14.xx fps.
Is the HOX camera really capable of recording [email protected] if it's bright enough? I don't know but that's what the file properties is telling me. Anyone experience the inconsistent to sometimes record at 30fps and sometimes at 60fps?
No one has experienced this? >.<
nope
i see min 6mbps, max10mbps and fps between 19 (yes, even in daylight!) and 29
in the evening (lowlight outside) i get 14 fps
the quality is really good though (lighting and noise wise) but the bitrate sucks.
fps is a tradeoff with exposure though in lowlight.
Hmm, then I'm not sure why I see some of my recorded videos showing at 60fps. Will record more in daylight tomorrow and will do more analysis.
That's maybe a tegra3 issue. Tegra2 has the same issue. Let's see AT&T version with Krait processor...
I can vouch for this, I also saw it on a couple of videos and I was just as surprised, I assumed it was a software glitch.
Will try to take a picture of it if stumble upon it again.
I've never been able to reproduce 60fps again after I created this thread... >.<
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ArmedandDangerous said:
I've never been able to reproduce 60fps again after I created this thread... >.<
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Do you still have a 60 fps video? Can you upload one?
Could it be possible that you accidentally recorded a slowmo 60 fps video instead of a normal one?
i think only the htc video player will play these in slowmo and others might call it 60 fps vids,
also bs player showed me two movies at a ridiculous frame rate of 1800+ fps hence why it could not use the svp plugin on it to double the frame rate...
of course that mp classic showed it as 24 fps and was capable of using the svp on it.
could be a video analasys glitch by mx player.
and yet video is jittery on the hox. on aosp too.
the overall video is smooth but with little stutters.
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Dear Desire users, it's no doubt that one of the points of getting Desire is to use for movies playback, what's your best conversion setting found so far for SMOOTH and HIGH REG. playback?
I've tried various settings and found
Resolution: 720p
Avg. Video Bitrate: 3000k (2500k runs a bit smoother but with noticeable lower picture quality)
Avg. Audio Bitrate: 192k
running pretty well on short HD movie trailer. (just a slight lag while playing w/ HTC album)
Yet, I found Act1 player plays the same file a little bit smoother, is it my illusion?
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hongkongtom said:
Resolution: 720p
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If you are converting movies specifically to run on your Desire, why bother with 720p when the screen doesn't support that resolution?
I can only really understand it if you are converting for use on other devices that do support that resolution and don't want to duplicate the effort.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
If you are converting movies specifically to run on your Desire, why bother with 720p when the screen doesn't support that resolution?
I can only really understand it if you are converting for use on other devices that do support that resolution and don't want to duplicate the effort.
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Dave
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valid point Dave, however, some HD video sources I got got some real "wide" resolutions, such as 1280x532, having the aspect ratio of 2.406, the clip ended up with two black bar on the top and bottom of the screen, that's why I would choose to encode into 720p so that I would got much lost while Zooming in while watching~
besides, I've tried to encoded the same file with same bitrate (3000k), the file size only dropped from 59mb to 57mb, I don't know the reason but I guess the machine speed quite similar effort in rendering both clips right?
please drop some more thoughts guys!
I use the Nexus One defaults from Any DVD Converter:
x264
800x480
1200kbps
25fps
1 encode pass
AAC
128kbps/44kHz
Converting from 1080p source. Looks awesome. Wouldn't bother with higher bitrates, personally.
Daern
Isn't a 3000k bitrate massive overkill for a phone anyway?
I encode my video to iPod Touch presets on Handbrake, so my wife can use the same files on her iPod.
Playing these videos on the Desire is more than adequate visually even at a much lower than native resolution (for my needs at least) and the total bitrate is usually between 550kbps and 600kbps.
Regards,
Dave
daern said:
I use the Nexus One defaults from Any DVD Converter:
x264
800x480
1200kbps
25fps
1 encode pass
AAC
128kbps/44kHz
Converting from 1080p source. Looks awesome. Wouldn't bother with higher bitrates, personally.
Daern
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I personally wouldnt bother with converting. My crummy pentium m laptop wouldnt be able to convert it in a satisfying timeframe anyway.
still hoping that one point in the future a better ndk which would allow access to the gpu video acceleration will allow spiffy stuff like hd video (through coreplayer maybe)
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Dear Desire users, it's no doubt that one of the points of getting Desire is to use for movies playback...
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Don't watch any movies on my PHONE, nor play music - it was never a point of me getting it so that statement is a bit off
Watching a film on a tiny screen is the last thing I want to do - besides, battery would die in a couple of hours
daern said:
I use the Nexus One defaults from Any DVD Converter:
x264
800x480
1200kbps
25fps
1 encode pass
AAC
128kbps/44kHz
Converting from 1080p source. Looks awesome. Wouldn't bother with higher bitrates, personally.
Daern
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Dear Daern & Dave, I admit using 3000k is just kinda trying to test how far the Desire could take, smart people saying that even though the phone can handle it, the battery won't stay long for running massive data, 1200kbps might be just fine for the balance between quality/battery life. but besides battery life, it's absolutely glad to see our Desire could render a 3000k 720p video (without almost un-noticeable flame drops - tested with "bare-eye"). it's impressive. (while my Blackstone could only take around 700-900kbps.
foxmeister said:
Isn't a 3000k bitrate massive overkill for a phone anyway?
I encode my video to iPod Touch presets on Handbrake, so my wife can use the same files on her iPod.
Playing these videos on the Desire is more than adequate visually even at a much lower than native resolution (for my needs at least) and the total bitrate is usually between 550kbps and 600kbps.
Regards,
Dave
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EddyOS said:
Don't watch any movies on my PHONE, nor play music - it was never a point of me getting it so that statement is a bit off
Watching a film on a tiny screen is the last thing I want to do - besides, battery would die in a couple of hours
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Dear EddyOS, since there aren't too much driving in a tiny place like Hong Kong, movies/favorite TV shows could actually do me some good while riding on a train or bus. Meanwhile, catching some clips in the bath room while handling "big" business is also good.
yet, I have to admit that, I've been surfing multiple Android websites for news and tweaks, and Froyo whenever I got time. hoping that one day I would jump into a web telling me HTC had released its Froyo update for our new (but already old) Desire.
Funny story behind this test.
I was at an Arsenal game today and during a lull in play and when we had a corner, I decided to pull out my phone and do a test recording.
I guessed nothing would happen as the game was drying up.
We were in an advantageous position but suddenly Manchester City counter attacked and scored! I was livid! I had to contain my swearing as I quickly tried to turn the recording off.
Here's the test
Check it out in 1080p and tell me what you think of the quality. This video was uploaded via the standard YouTube app found on the Galaxy Nexus.
Quality isn't bad for a phone camera. Not too fussed about result though, we have too many games anyway. Let's get back to CL next year.
Good of recording the goal...
Bad of being in Aquarium-mode...(GNex video recording)
Yeah man, we need CL big time. I don't want to watch us on Thursdays on Five.
Not the best quality for 1080p video, anyway...
Expected more for it, probably it is because of low light
Hi all, had my one x now for about a week, coming from the iphone 4...
the problem i have is that when im recording video in either 720p or 1080p it is sharp for a couple of seconds then the autofocus keeps cutting in and it goes blurry for a second or 2 till it refocusess then it goes back to normal... really anoying, its killing my videos !!!
so does anyone else have this problem or is my phone knackered ?
My does it only in 1080p so i stay in 720. Hope the update Will fix the problem.
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davealison said:
Hi all, had my one x now for about a week, coming from the iphone 4...
the problem i have is that when im recording video in either 720p or 1080p it is sharp for a couple of seconds then the autofocus keeps cutting in and it goes blurry for a second or 2 till it refocusess then it goes back to normal... really anoying, its killing my videos !!!
so does anyone else have this problem or is my phone knackered ?
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Only if you have many things in the video that are at different focus lengths. If you're recording a face it should stay at the same focus length.
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Hi all, had my one x now for about a week, coming from the iphone 4...
the problem i have is that when im recording video in either 720p or 1080p it is sharp for a couple of seconds then the autofocus keeps cutting in and it goes blurry for a second or 2 till it refocusess then it goes back to normal... really anoying, its killing my videos !!!
so does anyone else have this problem or is my phone knackered ?
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I have the same issue, realy annoying! Makes useless videos that way...
Mine is doing it on both 1080 and 720 resolutions. Initially i thought it was too much going on in a picture, however this doesnt seem to be the case. Focusing on an object a metre away is causing it issues. Camera focusing however is fine. Definitely a software bug. Lets hope 1.27 when it comes out is magical
Despite its "quirks" I bloody love this phone!
I think ive found a temp fix... well untill we get a software update that fixes it for good...
any way launch the camera app then go to settings and scroll down to video options and disable video stabilization... seems alot better for me after i did this !!!
hope this helps people...thanks
Having frame rate issues with recorded video capturing at only 20fps in 1080 mode, 21fps in 720 mode and 23fps in 480 mode using the back camera. In 1080 and 720 there is constant freezing and missing frames. Using the latest kitkat build 4.4.2 (KOT49h) since day one so maybe there is a bug with the current build as i don't see anyone else have this issue online.
I have not downloaded any apps since purchasing the device a few days ago, no apps running in the background and using the camera when the device has just been switched on.
I also noticed the bit rate is low for 1080 at around 8500 in comparison to an untouched sample i downloaded from another user that is recording at 12733 at 29fps but i think this user was still on the previous kitkat build.
The front facing camera recording is of smoother quality but only records at 25fps in both resolutions on offer.
I have also emailed Asus and the only response i have received is that in low light conditions the fps will drop. The recordings have all been done in bright perfect blue sky conditions so maybe i have a defective light sensor that is wrongly dropping the frame rates to maintain visual quality.
Just wondering if anyone here is using the same KitKat build and can tell me what frame rates and bit rates their recordings are at so that i can determine if it is due to the new kit kat version or it is hardware related.
Online articles have suggested the current KitKat "KOT49H" has caused significant fps drops in video playback and game playback but not sure if this same issue can be stretched to include video recording fps also.
Thanks in advance,
Jeff
So just got the phone a couple days ago... And im trying to figure out why im stuck in NTSC frame rates.
Im from the UK so obviously i prefer the look of 25FPS and when i do content I work in 25 fps.
It really seems strange that the cameras are arbitrarily locked to US frame rates.
Is there anyway to get 25fps?
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It really seems strange that the cameras are arbitrarily locked to US frame rates.
Is there anyway to get 25fps?
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Yes can be annoying. Cannot change it in the stock camera APP AFAIK. But other apps like Open Camera for example will allow you to set the FPS to 25fps.
It's likely just not as important as it once was... Unless you are specifically playing back on a older interlaced television set, than the chances are that item you are watching the video back on will support it regardless..
i.e Most phone, laptop and PC screens are running at 60hz, and most TV's will handle 24/25/30 fps intervals without issues these days.
Most people are uploading to youtube or online where by 30/60fps make more sense. 25fps is a leftover from the interlaced broadcast TV days. So the only difference it would make is if you shoot at 30fps and then need to broadcast it at 25fps, in which case you would have 3:2 pulldown.
The standard camera app does allow flicker/banding to be set to 50hz/60hz/Auto thus not to have strobing light issues.
But is there a specific reason you want to shoot 25fps and not 24/30/60?
Having worked in video production for much of my working life, I cant say i fully agree. While sure 30fps is common thats only because most content on youtube is from the americas where 30fps was common
It isnt just a hang on from the interlaced days either. A lot of american shows were actually shot on film at 24 and 25fps and then upsampled to 29.97 fps (or there abouts) 24 and 25fps have a more filmic and natural flow than 30/60.
Even today nearly all dramas and filmic shows in america are filmed at 24 and 25fps. With only soaps and news hanging onto 30fps.
Ive also tried open camera, even though the "option" is there, when i watch the footage it comes back at 30fps.
So its like its baked into the hardware encoder. Its really stupid though. Its not like its a limitation of hardware, not being capable of producing that frame rate because its too complex... Its as if just a config option or api is missing.
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While sure 30fps is common thats only because most content on youtube is from the americas where 30fps was common
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I'm from Australia where we also use PAL25FPS, because of 50hz electricity same as you in the UK, but any PC screen or monitor or phone for the last however many decades default is 60hz. Which is why 30/60/120fps makes more sense all around the world.
If YouTube was a British TV program being broadcast on TV, than 25fps would make more sense. But because it's being viewed on monitors, phones, laptops, tablets etc, than 30fps ensures no extra/interpolated/missed frames etc.
Even today nearly all dramas and filmic shows in america are filmed at 24 and 25fps. With only soaps and news hanging onto 30fps.
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Motion pictures have always been shot at 24fps, but TV in PAL countries has indeed been shot at 25fps, while US (NTSC) TV shows are shot @ 30fps.
I've also tried open camera, even though the "option" is there, when I watch the footage it comes back at 30fps.
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Ahh, I didn't actually test it, I just remember the setting... GCAM ports will definitely let you shoot [email protected] (as well as 30/60).
So its like its baked into the hardware encoder. Its really stupid though. Its not like its a limitation of hardware, not being capable of producing that frame rate because its too complex... Its as if just a config option or api is missing.
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I agree the option would be good. But at the same time it's likely not as important as it once was. Many years ago I required 25fps for broadcast TV, but these days it's simply not required. I cannot really see a use case where it matters anymore.
It really is a leftover from interlaced fields, and now days screens are capable of progressive scan.
If you are intending on shooting for broadcast TV with this phone (which seems odd) you no doubt would be editing in post, and thus would convert the 24/30/60fps footage to match your 25fps timeline in post, which would automatically do a 3:2 pulldown or pullup to convert the frames anyway.
If they did offer 25fps, there would be lots of complaints from people wondering why their footage is stuttering and jumping, when played back on their phone, PC, Chromecast, Youtube etc... Which I think is why they don't like to offer it.
Sadly even the best 3:2 pulldown can cause ghosting and artifacts, but I also plan to do some VFX as well, so for things like tracking thats a real killer...
Also im sorry youre wrong many shows in america (assuming they expect to sell internationally) always shoot at 25. Startrek for instance was shot at 25fps on 35mm.
And also when rendering out FX sequences, that extra 5 frames per second really add up.
Id rather keep to 25 for the aesthetics, and the ease of workflow.
I wonder if the framerate is something baked into the firmware of the camera hardware.