A lot of fuss was made over the "ImageSense" chip in the One series, especially the One X and One S, but when an HTC tweet mentioned a blog post (also by HTC employees) where they took it out on a trip and took some shots I was eager to see the results. The first impression was that the thumbnails looked great so I clicked through to the full-size images and ......... that's where I sat in shock at how really poor the image quality was. There was noise in around 50% of the image, lack of detail in most areas and it just plain sucked.
I commented on the article, as did others, all commenting on how poor it was for a supposed fantastic camera with all new ImageSense chip. After a while the person who posted the photos replied saying they were uploaded in reduced quality to save on load times and that full versions would be uploaded soon. At that time the full size images that I'd seen were removed. No new images were posted the last time I looked and as I now own the One X I've seen for myself that, sadly, this is the actual quality of the camera. No matter the light or subject I have noise and lost detail all over.
Is my experience here unique or are others finding that, for a supposedly fantastic camera phone with new chip specifically for photos, it just plain sucks?
Photos taken with HOX have a lot of noise indeed.. Sadly, HOX camera cannot compare to my ex iPhone 4s' camera.
EDIT: you might wanna look into that thread.
It's not that the sensor is bad, it's just really really bad compression on the pictures that is applied by the stock camera. Using a different camera app yields much sharper images.
Can you be more specific what app are you using? Isn't compression done before image even reaches any app?
Of course not, compression is performed only when dumping the image to storage. Until then, it's only RAW memory.
I'm facing the same issue now.. I must try another Photo APP...
Any ideas?!
Maybe is the compression you can try to use camera fv-5
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I also feel that the camera isnt up to the standard as my old iPhone 4 was. Thought it was just me.
Anyone have a suggestion for a good app that will decrease noise on photo's?
I have problem too
Dyonas said:
A lot of fuss was made over the "ImageSense" chip in the One series, especially the One X and One S, but when an HTC tweet mentioned a blog post (also by HTC employees) where they took it out on a trip and took some shots I was eager to see the results. The first impression was that the thumbnails looked great so I clicked through to the full-size images and ......... that's where I sat in shock at how really poor the image quality was. There was noise in around 50% of the image, lack of detail in most areas and it just plain sucked.
I commented on the article, as did others, all commenting on how poor it was for a supposed fantastic camera with all new ImageSense chip. After a while the person who posted the photos replied saying they were uploaded in reduced quality to save on load times and that full versions would be uploaded soon. At that time the full size images that I'd seen were removed. No new images were posted the last time I looked and as I now own the One X I've seen for myself that, sadly, this is the actual quality of the camera. No matter the light or subject I have noise and lost detail all over.
Is my experience here unique or are others finding that, for a supposedly fantastic camera phone with new chip specifically for photos, it just plain sucks?
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I also have the same problem and have not found a solution, even though my phone is a htc one x +. See this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2264896
Dyonas said:
A lot of fuss was made over the "ImageSense" chip in the One series, especially the One X and One S, but when an HTC tweet mentioned a blog post (also by HTC employees) where they took it out on a trip and took some shots I was eager to see the results. The first impression was that the thumbnails looked great so I clicked through to the full-size images and ......... that's where I sat in shock at how really poor the image quality was. There was noise in around 50% of the image, lack of detail in most areas and it just plain sucked.
I commented on the article, as did others, all commenting on how poor it was for a supposed fantastic camera with all new ImageSense chip. After a while the person who posted the photos replied saying they were uploaded in reduced quality to save on load times and that full versions would be uploaded soon. At that time the full size images that I'd seen were removed. No new images were posted the last time I looked and as I now own the One X I've seen for myself that, sadly, this is the actual quality of the camera. No matter the light or subject I have noise and lost detail all over.
Is my experience here unique or are others finding that, for a supposedly fantastic camera phone with new chip specifically for photos, it just plain sucks?
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Camera of HTC One X is one of the worst camera since HD2, even HD2 has better camera. The only good thing here is HDR mode, which is also not so good.
One X produces photos with so much noise, dynamic range varies and contrast is bad, and on direct light cant compare even with old Blackberry phones like 9780 or 9800 torch. Colors turn to be cold/blue. Photos are washed out etc etc There are no life in photos.
One X and One followed with BIG ADVERTISEMENTS and MARKETING CAMPAIGN, they are not good camera phones. I was naive to buy it. Now im searching to replace with Incredible S or Sensation even HD2.
HTC Sensation equiped with much better camera. Blacberry 9810 and 9800 has 10x better cameras. Not to mention N8 or E7 Nokia.
Yes, but your sig still says bless HTC..
I changed to SGS4 and the camera is the best i'e seen.. think about doing the same. No hope for Hox..
Cheers!
Phk said:
Yes, but your sig still says bless HTC..
I changed to SGS4 and the camera is the best i'e seen.. think about doing the same. No hope for Hox..
Cheers!
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I have made AWESOME pictures with the cyanogenmod camera APP. And now I reverted to stock and the only difference I get is that images are no longer sharper but after an auto enhance edit I get some pretty nice colors and I'm glad with the pictures again.. I wasn't glad with the macro shooting of cyanogenmod and I wasn't glad with the system overall that's why I got to stock.
Thanks ,Dan.
USING HOX
Phk said:
Yes, but your sig still says bless HTC..
I changed to SGS4 and the camera is the best i'e seen.. think about doing the same. No hope for Hox..
Cheers!
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funny but im not giving up on HTC as ive mentioned.
i will buy sensation or one v.
it is very bizzare company politics of HTC to announce three new models One v, one s and One x and ONE V which is 'value model' has way better camera than 'superior' A class ONE X.
and what we are... donkeys... it is all about some software (loaded on purpose because of that competition stuff) i suppose, same chip, same camera software two different photo qualities,
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HTC Bresson, just revealed by This is my next as being on T-Mobile's roadmap, is the 16-megapixel Windows Phone 7 handset we recently saw a commercial for. According to the blog, Bresson is coming "beyond" the September 2011 timeframe, making it sound like a holiday release is in the cards -- and thus a likely Windows Phone 7.5 Mango build. Note that the hardware being displayed here is almost definitely just a placeholder for the real Bresson, as it seems to be little more than a modified Desire S.
Besides Bresson, we're also expecting HTC to bring the Ignite slate and Prime QWERTY slider to the WP7 family this year, although carriers for those devices (if they are coming to the US at all) remain a mystery. Bresson will likely only be rivaled in the megapixel count by the Altek Leo and Nokia N9/N950, whose premiere teaser advertisement we spotted earlier today. However, as many observers have noted, pixel count alone is not the most significant factor in determining picture quality.
Just a pity the device is HTC made.
They make the worst cameras don't they.
doministry said:
Just a pity the device is HTC made.
They make the worst cameras don't they.
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agreed. I am curious to see a new Samsung or what Nokia is going to bring Post-Mango.
doministry said:
Just a pity the device is HTC made.
They make the worst cameras don't they.
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Yea, I was thinking the same thing. Their cameras are...ok, not great. 16mp or 250mp, what's the difference if your quality is just...ok...????
Maybe we'll be impressed but, I'm not counting on anything myself.
Chances are this is the new Sony Exmor R module in the phone. Remember, manufacturers do not make all of a product in these kind of devices (LG/Samsung screens, Qualcomm chip, etc).
I am guessing HTC is not in the optics business. But I could be wrong.
Of course, putting a nice camera module in your phone is only half the battle; you still have to do some programming to get it to work well.
This is... weird.
Looking at the bigger picture here, you would have thought looking at their previous models that HTC would choose Android for a phone that's quite clearly going to be a high end flagship, they wouldn't put a 16mp camera in something that isn't going to be a big model for them.
I wonder if this indicates a shift in their preferred OS, or maybe I'm just reading too much into this
The Snapdragon 8x50 and 8x55 support up to 12 megapixels. The 8x60, which Windows Phone 7 does not currently support, supports 16 megapixels.
Edit: Though I did just notice that the official Qualcomm page says the 8x60 supports Windows Phone: http://www.qualcomm.com/snapdragon/specs
Sounds like it will be pretty nice.
my next WP7 device will be NOKIA......
It is a great sales pitch.
The only HTC device I ever used was the HD7 and the camera was dreadful.
I guess it's just me but HTC seem to make phone that all look roughly the same.
At this time I think I'm going to be looking at the Nokia's WP7 models available In the first quarter of 2012 and pick up one of those.
I don't buy the phone for only the camera. Agree that HTC usually have a worse Camera than other smartphone, but they have a better build quality. Almost all HTC device look damn sexy. For example: HTC Leo and it's younger brother.
if youre into phone camera, nokia is the way to go. a lot of people are very impressed with phone camera nokia has in each of its phone releases. im sure nokia will bring that to their wp7 release. another thing, nokia also has phone releases that are very appealing to teens and they are way cheaper.lol!
well, with stock software my 12mp mozart is ok in daylight situation.
the updated software for the camera (which still hasnt been officially released)
is just awesome, it does near perfect pictures
ive uploaded two of them, currently im not running the updated camera and pictures tend to be bad quallity.
htc really need to step it up, get all parts of their phone working flawless together... like the xenon flash...
root beer said:
I guess it's just me but HTC seem to make phone that all look roughly the same.
At this time I think I'm going to be looking at the Nokia's WP7 models available In the first quarter of 2012 and pick up one of those.
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Nope. Not just you.
What HTC DOES do is reuse their shell and specs, as seen in all the Leo-ish devices. However, that design is a simple, yet beautiful design. I loved my HD2's design & I think the HD7 improved on it in every aspect. But you also have the EVO and such which use the same design.
webwalk® said:
well, with stock software my 12mp mozart is ok in daylight situation.
the updated software for the camera (which still hasnt been officially released)
is just awesome, it does near perfect pictures
ive uploaded two of them, currently im not running the updated camera and pictures tend to be bad quallity.
htc really need to step it up, get all parts of their phone working flawless together... like the xenon flash...
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Xcuse me but which 12mpx on your Mozart?!
A typo I think
Anyway daylight pics are easy for almost any camera today.
Show some night ones or in difficult light than we can talk.
aww its only 8 x(
however, in lowlight it gets grain and noisy,
the xenon provides good light for close ups, but thats it
well all im sayin is htc need to push some updates for cameras
but the hardware should be capable of making good pictures...
doministry said:
Just a pity the device is HTC made.
They make the worst cameras don't they.
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Also, touchscreens are poor too compared to Samsung/Apple and probably others. I have the HD7 and it doesn't track smoothly in the horizontal axis (with the phone in portrait more). Presume the HD2 and Desire HD are the same.
Not sure if this needs to be in Q&A or here, it's my first post so be nice haha!
Just a couple questions that I wanted answering, as I'm planning to get the One X next week.
I've heard a few bits and bobs about the camera - both pictures and video, and just wanted to ask:
1) In general, are the photos a good quality?
2) Is there still a framerate issue with video recording? Does it make much difference?
Thank you!
I know they update the firmware etc, so didn't know if they'd fixed anything at all?
Richy23 said:
Not sure if this needs to be in Q&A or here, it's my first post so be nice haha!
Just a couple questions that I wanted answering, as I'm planning to get the One X next week.
I've heard a few bits and bobs about the camera - both pictures and video, and just wanted to ask:
1) In general, are the photos a good quality?
2) Is there still a framerate issue with video recording? Does it make much difference?
Thank you!
I know they update the firmware etc, so didn't know if they'd fixed anything at all?
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1) The one x takes superb pictures, the best of any phone I've used, and there was a comparison showing that it also out performs the s3 camera noticeably. There are a few threads with pictures people have taken.
2) I haven't noticed any framerate issues, but I haven't recorded much video. If there are any framerate issues it can be fixed with updates.
brentett said:
1) The one x takes superb pictures, the best of any phone I've used, and there was a comparison showing that it also out performs the s3 camera noticeably. There are a few threads with pictures people have taken.
2) I haven't noticed any framerate issues, but I haven't recorded much video. If there are any framerate issues it can be fixed with updates.
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i doubt htc one x out perform sgs3.. i had gs2 before and what i can say.. sgs2 give a better performance in still photo and video. sgs2 had much more detail and give a higher bitrate in video. and now it's far behind sgs3.. just go check comparison article by gsmarena. also there is thread in here talking about HOX video quality.. just search for it..
guys..there are SuperCameraMod for the Sensation..talk to the dev and see him if he will work on it for hox or not
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Thanks for the replies guys, all really helpful Just like making sure in my head all the little answers are answered before I take the plunge!
Thanks again!
The HOX takes excellent photos. From what I read lately as well, it is better then the GS3. The features of the HOX camera are excellent as well. For instant, the panoramic feature is flawless, compared to other phones with this feature, and to all of the panoramic apps I have tried from the market/playstore.
My only let down is playback of video after you use SlowMo ( yes it has a slomo feature ) stutters some times. It could be better, but nothing I think an update will not fix down the track.
Since both devices have the same HTC ImageChip DSP, they both should perform the same, right? Apparently no. According to PhoneArena, "The HTC One S takes slightly oversaturated photos with good contrast and amount of detail. The colors are colder in the case of the One X, and it has more accurate color representation with white balance a bit off in some shots." To me, the shots look better on the One S. You can check it here: http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/HTC-One-X-vs-HTC-One-S_id3005/page/3
Any idea how to improve the one x's cam?
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Hi mate, I havent heard the One S is better before, but shall take a read of that link.
But I have asked this question before, and didn't get an answer. (NOT HERE ON GOOGLE!)
I wanted to know, surely theres some tweaks etc you can perform to get the most out of the camera, but I'm no means a camera nerd and havent got a clue what makes a picture better, apart from MegaPixel and ive been told thats nothing to do with quality, just how big you can blow it up.
Anyone have any tips for improving the HTC One X cam?
**edit** : looked at your link.
I definately agree the HTC One S pictures are alot better. What gives?
Wilks3y said:
Hi mate, I havent heard the One S is better before, but shall take a read of that link.
But I have asked this question before, and didn't get an answer. (NOT HERE ON GOOGLE!)
I wanted to know, surely theres some tweaks etc you can perform to get the most out of the camera, but I'm no means a camera nerd and havent got a clue what makes a picture better, apart from MegaPixel and ive been told thats nothing to do with quality, just how big you can blow it up.
Anyone have any tips for improving the HTC One X cam?
**edit** : looked at your link.
I definately agree the HTC One S pictures are alot better. What gives?
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try this HQ Camera Mod:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1765416
vivek_bhoj said:
try this HQ Camera Mod:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1765416
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Thanks mate, taken a look but I'm not on a custom ROM :/
I think im going to HAVE to root my device soon, once I get over the nerves of no warranty !!
Actually, I do know for sure that this is due to crappy JPEG compression. (You can use a third party app like Camera Zoom FX) But still if it is because of that, and the One S is using the SAME camera and software shouldn't it be about the same?
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hi dudes...i had htc one x 1 month ago...i install any hq mode & other camera app...problem is not just about detail...it`s about pinky shadow...bad color balance..& dark & pink cover over all photos...in low light or outdoor light...there is no mod that can solve it..it`s hardware problem...i have htc one s now..& must say that it`s powerfull cameraphone...& results are same as iphone 4s & xperia s & better than galaxy s2 that hi had last year...
The most useful camera trick for me was being able to refocus pictures after taking them.
And the M9 does not support that. I do see that the picture quality is better than the M8. But I use this feature so much along with the other features made possible because of the DUO Camera. No M9 for me!! (Unless something changes)
Anyone else disappointed with the M9 (it feels like a... M7.5, if you already have the M8 ) for whatever reason ?
There is an app 4 that
Im disappointed with the m9 as well
You can download the Bokeh camera... Open the camera app.. click on the Camera mode button (4 round circles in the bottom left of the screen, Click the big + sign... D/L'd the Bokeh camera.
Ive had this M9 now for 2 days, the first m9 I had went back for overheating, even after the 340MB update.. it didnt help the overheating
Coming from an M8 I was aware that the M9 is an incremental update, not a new flagship, but I love the audio and the awesome 4 UltraPixel Cam, so why the hell did HTC give into the UltraPixel Bashing and join the wagon train of MegaPixels, Why didnt HTC develop a 6 or even an 8 Ultrapixel camera. As a result of this cowardice theyve f++ked the camera up big time.
I followed the guide given here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59821245&postcount=274
As well as experimented and tried and tested it, to no avail.. and as a result Im stuck with a device worse than what they released last year;
A 20MPx image I took, looks worse a 5Mpx from the HTC desire, pure mush on the details, yet an 8Mpx can Rarely look stunning (Sorry Ive tried but cant upload any pics)
If anyone can give me a reason to keep the M9, please convince me, or I may send it to eBay.
How about anyone else
I would give you my M8 for your M9
Sent from my HTC One_M8 using XDA Free mobile app
first time on xda, maybe i posted in the wrong section. i'm just a noob, my english isn't that good either.
just wanted to share my thought on the camera, overall i'm impressed despite the underwhelming review i come across the internet.
also to help people who still concern about the camera performance, the lowlight is even brighter than my perfectly healthy eye.
check this out oi66 . tinypic . com/34g4tx3.jpg (i put space because i can't post an outside link, 10 post rule)
man this phone got bad a camera review, i just wonder how good phone like samsung, iphone, google pixel are which always got high praise on their camera..
anjargun said:
first time on xda, maybe i posted in the wrong section. i'm just a noob, my english isn't that good either.
just wanted to share my thought on the camera, overall i'm impressed despite the underwhelming review i come across the internet.
also to help people who still concern about the camera performance, the lowlight is even brighter than my perfectly healthy eye.
check this out oi66 . tinypic . com/34g4tx3.jpg (i put space because i can't post an outside link, 10 post rule)
man this phone got bad a camera review, i just wonder how good phone like samsung, iphone, google pixel are which always got high praise on their camera..
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I couldn't get you link to work, shame. Yes, the camera did get a bad review, but given the technology packed into the phone, I think it should do better than it does. I did a side by side comparison to the Z3 compact and for quite a few of the pictures the Z3 won. I think it was a mistake to put such a wide angle lense on the phone. Yes, it was a good for vistas and views, but the sensor chip struggles with close up work. The camera was useless until Sony released a 'fix' for it. I don't understand how a phone go through the manufacturing process without anyone testing the lense/sensor combination. It's better than it was, now the fix is in place, but it's not the best camera Sony have made.
Manual mode every time, take the iso and shutter speed out of auto and get the shutter down as slow as possible. If you can find the time to put the phone on a tripod, the difference is amazing.
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I couldn't get you link to work, shame. Yes, the camera did get a bad review, but given the technology packed into the phone, I think it should do better than it does. I did a side by side comparison to the Z3 compact and for quite a few of the pictures the Z3 won. I think it was a mistake to put such a wide angle lense on the phone. Yes, it was a good for vistas and views, but the sensor chip struggles with close up work. The camera was useless until Sony released a 'fix' for it. I don't understand how a phone go through the manufacturing process without anyone testing the lense/sensor combination. It's better than it was, now the fix is in place, but it's not the best camera Sony have made.
Manual mode every time, take the iso and shutter speed out of auto and get the shutter down as slow as possible. If you can find the time to put the phone on a tripod, the difference is amazing.
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oi66 . tinypic.com/34g4tx3.jpg (don't forget the 0i66) just wait till it load
well i never know the close up problem tho, is it like can't shoot macro shot or something like that?
are u sure z3 won over the xz1? because i also do that first time trying to compare to the z1. but then i realize it was my mistake because the phone keep shooting in different mode, but if it the same mode xz1 won, everytime
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oi66 . tinypic.com/34g4tx3.jpg (don't forget the 0i66) just wait till it load
well i never know the close up problem tho, is it like can't shoot macro shot or something like that?
are u sure z3 won over the xz1? because i also do that first time trying to compare to the z1. but then i realize it was my mistake because the phone keep shooting in different mode, but if it the same mode xz1 won, everytime
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I also had a z1 and z3, and they were good (z1 with some Sony' camera mod was the best!). And yes, in night mode z3 it's better than our new xz1 (but it's at will be covered maybe with patches or mods, maybe in future, because our sensor can take picture with iso lower than it can use now in stock camera app)
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PeppeBove said:
I also had a z1 and z3, and they were good (z1 with some Sony' camera mod was the best!). And yes, in night mode z3 it's better than our new xz1
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I do not believe! there are examples? xz1 much better in poor lighting
anjargun said:
first time on xda, maybe i posted in the wrong section. i'm just a noob, my english isn't that good either.
just wanted to share my thought on the camera, overall i'm impressed despite the underwhelming review i come across the internet.
also to help people who still concern about the camera performance, the lowlight is even brighter than my perfectly healthy eye.
check this out oi66 . tinypic . com/34g4tx3.jpg (i put space because i can't post an outside link, 10 post rule)
man this phone got bad a camera review, i just wonder how good phone like samsung, iphone, google pixel are which always got high praise on their camera..
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Wow, SUPER impressed with your low light results while in manual mode. I tried recreating those results in low light conditions myself, but couldn't find the right settings to see that big of a difference. Would you mind sharing the settings you used to achieve that? Thanks!
I see on 4pda people are advising to use SnapCamera. I wonder what is the difference between stock, Snapcamera, and Gcam (if available)?