Gorilla Glass is for the birds - Samsung Epic 4G Touch

Well, i have done it!!
I have a nice half inch long scratch in my screen. And its not just a scuff, I mean a scratch you can feel!!
Personally I think the whole gorilla glass is a scheme to make you think you have a better product.
I never put anything remotely rough in my pocket with my phone, never set it on the screen, drop it ...blah blah blah. Some how some way I woke up today and found a scratch!! It was nice while it lasted, but I guess it has officially been "broken" in.

should've had one of these screen protectors:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005P15G8K/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00

Even if they came out with some crazy diamond hard screen,I would still use a screen protector.it's just insurance.
Not spell checked nor checked for grammar on my genetic phone

Always use a screen protector and a TPU if you value your phone.

Gorilla glass resists breakage and is thinner than comparable-strength traditional glass. Nothing is scratch-proof.

phatmanxxl said:
Always use a screen protector and a TPU if you value your phone.
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Thats what I use. Dropped my phone for the first time today and not a scratch or dent. I wasn't worried though.
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I used to be one to always use a case and screen protector, but when I had the Evo3d the screen protector ruined the 3d so I kept it off.
I liked the feel of the glass better so I left it off my E4GT, and one day I cleaned the screen and created a inch long scratch. I am assuming there was a piece of dirt on the screen cleaning cloth I always use.
The gorilla glass is to help with broken screens (think how many iphones have broken glass), not scratches. It bothers the crap out of me. I will be an invisashield customer again on my next phone...

Gorilla Glass is Unbreakable,
Unscratchable, Unbreakable. Undeformable, Unsmudgeable and Indestructible!!
Jk about the above :-D
I wrote a post about this topic with links.
Will find it later on.
Gorilla Glass is Resistant to scratches, pits, chips, breaks, etc. under certain conditions, where glass would not be.
Under other conditions, hardly any material which can be used for the screen of a Smartphone screen is Impervious to the above, at this time.
With the above being said, I recently noticed faint, light scratches when viewing my E4GT under certain Sun angles.
I applied a screen protector a short while ago to lessen the risks of deeper scratches, etc.
I think the issues are:
- many believe Gorilla Glass is Impervious to damage.
- advertisement and spec sheets are not as clear as they could be regarding the real world properties of Gorilla Glass.
Oh, Be Careful where there is SAND, aka THE BEACH ;-)
Sand WILL Scratch GG, as that is Etched in Stone lol! Sand has a Hardness of approx. '7' on the Mohs Hardness Scale.
GG, I believe is '6-6.5,' which is slightly Harder than glass. Sand, which are Quartz particles, are a 7 in hardness, hence sand will scratch the crap outta your screen!
Screen Protecters are approx. 3-3.5
in Hardness I believe, but you can easily (subjective) replace them.
Btw, dust in the air contains quartz particles also.
Googling Corning Gorilla Glass will give you a better idea of it's properties.
I found it very informative.

Biker1 said:
Gorilla Glass is Unbreakable,
Unscratchable, Unbreakable. Undeformable, Unsmudgeable and Indestructible!!
Jk about the above :-D
I wrote a post about this topic with links.
Will find it later on.
Gorilla Glass is Resistant to scratches, pits, chips, breaks, etc. under certain conditions, where glass would not be.
Under other conditions, hardly any material which can be used for the screen of a Smartphone screen is Impervious to the above, at this time.
With the above being said, I recently noticed faint, light scratches when viewing my E4GT under certain Sun angles.
I applied a screen protector a short while ago to lessen the risks of deeper scratches, etc.
I think the issues are:
- many believe Gorilla Glass is Impervious to damage.
- advertisement and spec sheets are not as clear as they could be regarding the real world properties of Gorilla Glass.
Oh, Be Careful where there is SAND, aka THE BEACH ;-)
Sand WILL Scratch GG, as that is Etched in Stone lol! Sand has a Hardness of approx. '7' on the Mohs Hardness Scale.
GG, I believe is '6-6.5,' which is slightly Harder than glass. Sand, which are Quartz particles, are a 7 in hardness, hence sand will scratch the crap outta your screen!
Screen Protecters are approx. 3-3.5
in Hardness I believe, but you can easily (subjective) replace them.
Googling Corning Gorilla Glass will give you a better idea of it's properties.
I found it very informative.
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He speaks the truth about sand!!! Unfortunately.....

Yeah..maybe a sand issue...I was in Florida over the weekend.
Lesson learned...I do like the feel of the bare glass, but may have to invest in a screen protector for the future.
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In the past, I've tried the following screen protectors:
1) Boxwave
2) Zagg InvisibleSHIELD
3) Steinheil Crystal Clear
I am currently using #3, and like it the best.
2 to a pack.
I usually screw up the first application with any protector, so having 2 is a plus.
Very transparent. Feel is very smooth.
Finger gliding is Excellent.
Goes on Dry.
Scratch resistance is pretty good. Actually very good. But remember the MOHs Hardness Scale examples I previously listed.

#3 here also, love it, no bubbles at all, great stuff.
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Thats what I have on my screen! Stienheil :O!

I've dropped my phone numerous times from a good distance but one day I had it in my back pocket (not the first time) and sat down. When I pulled my phone out it had a cracked screen -__-

I also have some scratches on my device. Gorilla is not diamond. But I still don't use screen protector, after 2 years, maybe I upgrade another phone.

Like the poster on the first page said..the grains of sand will get you if you aren't careful. I got a little scratch on my Nexus that way and I went right out and got a screen protector for my Epic Touch. I definitely prefer the feel of bare screen but a scratch really irritates me
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Scratches annoy the crap out of me. I've only had this phone for like two months and I'm on my fifth screen protector. Going to try the steinhall one next. How does that lotus glass compare to gorilla as far as scratch resistance?
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erasable said:
Scratches annoy the crap out of me. I've only had this phone for like two months and I'm on my fifth screen protector. Going to try the steinhall one next. How does that lotus glass compare to gorilla as far as scratch resistance?
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Lotus Glass is called Corning Gorilla Glass 2. I believe Lotus Glass was the speculated name given prior to it officially becoming available. I'm unsure, if any, what devices are currently using it.
I've read on the Corning site that is has the same scratch, break resistant,etc. properties, but that it can be made up to 20% thinner, and keep the same strength and properties as the original Gorilla Glass.
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/news/press-releases/corning-unveils-new-gorilla®-glass-2

i dropped my phone down some tile stairs. it must have had about 15 contacts and almost slid from the second floor to the first floor.... only had bumps on the bezel and slight scratches on the screen. not noticeable when the screen was on... very durable i must say.

Personally I just can't bring myself to use a screen protector or case. Part of the reason I picked this phone was because of it's profile. The idea of hiding it away in a bulky case and noticeable screen protector makes me cringe.
I don't find it too hard to be careful with my phone. I bought my E4GT at release and I've never dropped it or sat on it and there are no scratches on the screen save for one tiny, faint one that I can only see if the screen is off and the light hits it just right.
Granted people with certain lifestyles can't get away with this. My dad is a mechanic and if it weren't in a case he'd destroy his phone inside a week. Luckily I'm practically a hermit with my face buried in textbooks all day long...
PS I forgot, I do keep a TPU case laying around for traveling. I haven't used it yet, but if I were going somewhere potentially hazardous to my phone I would.

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Scratches on the screens glass

Does any one had scratches appearing on the screens glass of the Galaxy Nexus?
, few days back i have noticed one noticeable scratch on the screen , strange as i am treating my Nexus very carefully.
My galaxy S which has the gorilla glass never had scratches and it is now more than 6 months old.
Little bit disappointing as it is very new phone with couple of weeks use. who know if there will be more scratches in the future!! Hope not
Just dropped mine 5ft to the pavement landed face first and the battery cover came off. It's still flawless I don't know how but it is.... I was expecting it to be cracked but I'm pretty impressed!
Yeah, I've got a few scratches. Check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1364252
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I have mine in my pocket all the time and it's perfectly fine,not even one scratch.
i used my gn with the screen film still on it for over a week until i got my screen protectors in the mail, no glass screen is unscratchable/unbreakable. there are plenty of substances around that will scratch gorilla glass (eg sand) and if even a tiny bit ends up in your pocket, better have a screen protector!
Yea my original G2x had 2 tiny micro scratches on it. Not noticable unless viewing a white background, more commonly when viewing webpages before they fully load.
The LG Updater bricked mine and got an exchange. Haven't had a problem with my new one but just goes to show.
catpunt said:
i used my gn with the screen film still on it for over a week until i got my screen protectors in the mail, no glass screen is unscratchable/unbreakable. there are plenty of substances around that will scratch gorilla glass (eg sand) and if even a tiny bit ends up in your pocket, better have a screen protector!
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Wise advice here, but nobody sells screen protectors for the nexus where I am. I've ordered some online and I'll be taking it to a professional to get stuck on (every time I do it I leave bubbles; yes I've watched numerous instructional videos alas I cannot do it) - I've only ordered three protectors, hopefully that is more than enough.
All the screen (even Gorilla) would have chance to get scratches...
always get a screen protector for your couple-hundred phone
Yeah I'm gonna have to get some too. I always take extreme care of my phones (whether in my pocket or out) and it already has a small, yet noticeable scratch on the bottom. Definitely need a ZAGG or the like
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3 scratches here.
I'm tired of hearing people say even gorilla glass will scratch blah blah blah. Gorilla glass has proven to me to be infinitely more scratch proof than the glass on the Nexus. Like 100 fold over. After a while I was treating my Vibrant like it was bullet proof. Throwing it across the room, dropping it scores of times, putting it into my pocket with keys, etc etc... and to this day - "not one scratch on it", not one! For those who think sand in your pocket would scratch gorilla glass, you better think again. Obviously there will be rare occassions where it would happen but for the most part, it'll survive without any issues.
My nexus on the hand has been babied to death and less than a week into owning it, 3 scratches.
I will never, EVER buy a phone without gorilla glass again.
I've been rocking my Incredible since day one without screen protection and it's still mint. (besides a complete crack in upper right corner (in an area that is beyond the display) from one of the worse drops, which was more of a drunken throw). I really hope that the Nexus can handle my lifestyle, but sounds like this thread is reporting mixed reviews. I refuse to wear a condom so I hope I get one of the good ones...
p.s. I surf alot in the summer and sand all over but still no scratches. I guess it has to hit with the right angle and friction???
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I will never, EVER buy a phone without gorilla glass again.
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One grain of sand or salt + friction (i.e. pocket) and even the Gorilla Glass 2 on the RAZR gets scratched.
You can run a key across the screen all day long, but it only take a granule of something to etch a deep scratch.
If u get a decent screen protector and install it well (I know it ain't easy) it will look/feel as good as the naked glass, and then u dont have to worry - and in a year when u pull it off, the glass will be PERFECT. Small price to pay. The Galaxy Nexus is so thin that with a slim TPU case it's still crazy thin, and you will keep it in perfect condition
I agree Gorilla is scratchable but much harder to get scratched than other glass.
Does anyone have suggestion of good screen protector? And from where to get?
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kojaraty said:
I agree Gorilla is scratchable but much harder to get scratched than other glass.
Does anyone have suggestion of good screen protector? And from where to get?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA App
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I'm currently using the Verizon ones, but just ordered some SGP Olephobic ones:
http://www.sgpstore.com/cell-phone/...-nexus-screen-protector-steinheil-series.html
AfroCreame said:
I'm currently using the Verizon ones, but just ordered some SGP Olephobic ones:
http://www.sgpstore.com/cell-phone/...-nexus-screen-protector-steinheil-series.html
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I'm sorry to say, but you should have ordered the SGP Flex instead. The Ultra Oleophobic ones don't extend to the edge of the screen, because they use the dry adhesive method, and if they went right to the edge of the curved screen they would peel.
Frankly, it looks pretty ugly having a band around the edge that's not covered. Plus, because they don't extend to the edges, it's much more noticeable if you get it off centre.
As mentioned in the other thread i have a couple of tiny scratches after 3 weeks of use and never ever putting anything else in my pocket with it. Disappointing.
vapotrini said:
3 scratches here.
I'm tired of hearing people say even gorilla glass will scratch blah blah blah. Gorilla glass has proven to me to be infinitely more scratch proof than the glass on the Nexus. Like 100 fold over. After a while I was treating my Vibrant like it was bullet proof. Throwing it across the room, dropping it scores of times, putting it into my pocket with keys, etc etc... and to this day - "not one scratch on it", not one! For those who think sand in your pocket would scratch gorilla glass, you better think again. Obviously there will be rare occassions where it would happen but for the most part, it'll survive without any issues.
My nexus on the hand has been babied to death and less than a week into owning it, 3 scratches.
I will never, EVER buy a phone without gorilla glass again.
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Couldn't agree more. I was the same way with both my Fascinate and now my charge. Neither device has gotten a single scratch.
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vapotrini said:
3 scratches here.
I'm tired of hearing people say even gorilla glass will scratch blah blah blah. Gorilla glass has proven to me to be infinitely more scratch proof than the glass on the Nexus. Like 100 fold over. After a while I was treating my Vibrant like it was bullet proof. Throwing it across the room, dropping it scores of times, putting it into my pocket with keys, etc etc... and to this day - "not one scratch on it", not one! For those who think sand in your pocket would scratch gorilla glass, you better think again. Obviously there will be rare occassions where it would happen but for the most part, it'll survive without any issues.
My nexus on the hand has been babied to death and less than a week into owning it, 3 scratches.
I will never, EVER buy a phone without gorilla glass again.
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Sand will scratch sand will scratch sand will scratch sand. What do I mean by that? ALL glass (including Gorilla Glass and its differently arranged superficial crystalline structure) is the same molecule- SiO2 or "silica." Is there variation within silica? - yes, but minutely.
[good read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohs_scale_of_mineral_hardness Geology and Mineralogy have huge unrealized relevancy in everyday life- just like under-appreciated physics] The variation will not give silica the hardness of say, "topaz" (at 8 on the scale), but rather is usually due to impurities (additional minerals) that weaken it down to ~ 6 or so. Gorilla Glass seems to be a purified silica, maxing out at 7 hardness. Quartz crystals (what we call "sand") also usually sits at 7 (chemical weathering can both purify and contaminate depending upon the situation), and do not have to be just "sand" like beach/desert sand. Sand is a size classification, you also have "silt" which is just smaller (down to microscopic) quartz crystals, and is "aerial saltating" (airborne- carried by the air but not in solution with it). Many other minerals may be present in the "cloud" that hovers about <50' from the earth's surface due to weathering that will scratch just about anything, so "grit" is a huge issue for ANY screen. Gorilla Glass is nicer than other glass types (although according to the Vickers scale Corning uses, not by much), but it is not invincible and items that can/will scratch are much too common to be flippantly dismissed. Also good reads in these comments: http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/mfskn/galaxy_nexus_no_gorilla_glass_no_problem/
Buy a screen protector, even if you have Gorilla Glass...
Just get a high end screen protector like xoskins on there. They fill in scratches. Their video shows it pretty well http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoMRO4OiXw4

Gorilla Glass?

Anyone know what (if any) the glass protection coating is on the Nitro? Would be awesome if Gorilla Glass, but I did some searching and not seeing any inkling that it has that.
And if not, any folks seeing scratches already?
According to Corning's(maker of GG) website, the LG Optimus 2x, Optimus Black, Thrill 4g, G2x, and LG marquee all have Gorilla glass. I do recall reading that it does have gorilla glass, and since all of LGs premium smartphones are on Corning's list, I am almost positive it does.
I've had it since the 6th and still have not made any scratches.
I tried to link to the site, but I am not allowed to. Google search "gorilla glass products LG" and the first link is the list.
Here's that link: http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/products-with-gorilla/lg
Thanks red.
Btw, for those still curious if this phone has Gorilla Glass or not...well, It Has! Confirmed by LG through their forum.
http://www.lgforum.com/forum/boards/carriers/at-and-t/topics/gorilla-glass-on-nitro-hd
It is definitely Gorrila Glass. I hate screen protectors and this was one of the reason why I am giving this phone a shot as opposed to skyrocket.
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Digging up an old thread so I'm not creating new ones.
Gorilla glass or not it managed to somehow shatter on me. What a crappy feeling that is especially knowing I have a screen protector and case coming. The drop was onto tiled floor from about 1.5 foot tall. The whole screen shattered starting from the bottom right. Not sure how but it landed flat screen side on the ground and not on the corner. I thought it would've handled it but guess not.
So be cautious with this phone. I must have real bad luck with it
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Digging up an old thread so I'm not creating new ones.
Gorilla glass or not it managed to somehow shatter on me. What a crappy feeling that is especially knowing I have a screen protector and case coming. The drop was onto tiled floor from about 1.5 foot tall. The whole screen shattered starting from the bottom right. Not sure how but it landed flat screen side on the ground and not on the corner. I thought it would've handled it but guess not.
So be cautious with this phone. I must have real bad luck with it
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Sorry to hear about that. I believe that gorilla glass mostly protects against scratches. It is still glass and will shatter from many falls. Tile is especially renown as a phone shatterer.
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Sorry to hear about your Nitro, HJZS2K. That sucks!
After having watched a Gorilla Glass test done by Engadget some time ago, I thought it basically made a phone bulletproof too:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/29/dell-streaks-gorilla-glass-screen-torture-tested-for-your-amus/
But as you've experienced and from my own personal experience (my wife's rather careless mistreatment of her Droid RAZR caused a 1/4" GOUGE on her screen)...It goes back to the promise that Gorilla Glass is scratch and damage 'RESISTANT' ...But hardly impervious.
Yeah, it sucks to see it shatter like that, but everyone needs to remember, regardless of what Gorilla Glass is made of, it is still glass, and a drop on completely solid surface (tile, concrete, etc) will almost always results in cracks or shatters. It is really only intended to prevent the screen from scratches and blurring from buffing due to repeated usage and direct impact from things bumping into it or the phone being pressed hard to your body or in the bag, in which a regular sheet of glass will shatter in a second.
Gorilla glass is very thin, and at that thickness, a regular glass will snap with you just pushing it to press the screen. you'd know this if you ever play around with a microscope. Those glass slides that you put under the lens will snap the moment you push those lenses too low and press against the glass.

ArmorSuit MilitaryShield Screen Protector

Giving a quick review of the ArmorSuit Screen protector for the T-Mobile GSII SGH-T989. I got it from Amazon the other day for $9.00 and thought I would help out anyone seeking quality screen protection beyond the gorilla glass.
Link for screen protector
If you read the product description it will give you the rundown. I'll give you my opinions of it. First, the self healing claim is for the most part true. It scratched pretty bad when I was applying it but they all went away within a day. Installation was a breeze, just follow the instructions and watch the install video. I did find that at the top of the screen (where the front camera is) the protector just ends rather than going over the camera. I'm not sure if there is any benefit but it does seem like it will be a nuissance in the future because this is where it will start to peel (if anywhere.) Pictures are included.
Picture 2: There is absolutely no change in the quality of screen viewing.
Is there a lot of fingerprints and oil?
I have the zagg right now, that's what i freaking hate!!!!
the screen always is sooooo oily
kvizz said:
Is there a lot of fingerprints and oil?
I have the zagg right now, that's what i freaking hate!!!!
the screen always is sooooo oily
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Looks to be similar to the zagg. I have one too and I don't think it's that bad.
then again, I'm not that 'oily' as a person...
On the plus side, it looks a lot less orange peely than the zagg.
Off topic...what ROM/launcher are you using?
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kvizz said:
Is there a lot of fingerprints and oil?
I have the zagg right now, that's what i freaking hate!!!!
the screen always is sooooo oily
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I haven't noticed anything beyond what the standard glass would have. If anything, I would say it is slightly more tacky but I'm sure that that will go away with time.
IMO you're putting plastic over glass.. Unless its in a car and its tinted its a waste.
They used to do it with TV's now TV's are being made with Gorilla glass.
Oils, smudges and so on..
No thanks..
No plastic will protect gorilla glass
Use Physics to Prove its value
fastfed said:
IMO you're putting plastic over glass.. Unless its in a car and its tinted its a waste.
No plastic will protect gorilla glass
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This is incorrect. Plastic will protect the glass from any random things that would otherwise damage the glass. It is well understood by now that gorilla glass is scratch resistant, not scratch proof. By adding this plastic cover you increase the compression in which an object can penetrate before hitting the screen. This increases the time the object has to transmit it's energy into the phone and by using the formula for kinetic energy (KE=.5mv²) you will notice that it will lower the velocity of impact. This results in a compression which will lower the KE before whatever may scratch the screen actual scratches it, therefore concluding that the screen protector does protect the gorilla glass.
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This is incorrect. Plastic will protect the glass from any random things that would otherwise damage the glass. It is well understood by now that gorilla glass is scratch resistant, not scratch proof. By adding this plastic cover you increase the compression in which an object can penetrate before hitting the screen. This increases the time the object has to transmit it's energy into the phone and by using the formula for kinetic energy (KE=.5mv²) you will notice that it will lower the velocity of impact. This results in a compression which will lower the KE before whatever may scratch the screen actual scratches it, therefore concluding that the screen protector does protect the gorilla glass.
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LOL whatever... Mr.Wizard..
Either way, its like putting plastic around a bullet proof glass..
IMO they are not needed anymore at all. Keys,wallet clips, concrete will not scratch the gorilla glass, so anymore more than that is a catastrophic failure that no plastic will really help..
Either way, like I said, some people like to put ugly oil attractive plastic on their phones.. More power to them
Gorilla glass scratches easier than u think my wife has a good scratch on her screen from leaving the phone in her purse
Sent from a guy living in a van down by the river
fastfed said:
LOL whatever... Mr.Wizard..
Either way, its like putting plastic around a bullet proof glass..
IMO they are not needed anymore at all. Keys,wallet clips, concrete will not scratch the gorilla glass, so anymore more than that is a catastrophic failure that no plastic will really help..
Either way, like I said, some people like to put ugly oil attractive plastic on their phones.. More power to them
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Plenty of people have scratched their gorilla glass screens from everyday use such as putting the phone in the same pocket as keys or change. Google it.
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G1ForFun said:
Plenty of people have scratched their gorilla glass screens from everyday use such as putting the phone in the same pocket as keys or change. Google it.
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I have..
But that argument doesn't really work because I can say Google the strength of Gorilla glass.
You will see people taking X-Acto knives to them.. People take hammers and so on..
I've had my evo for almost 2 years, with NO gorilla glass, never had a protector on it..
Tight jeans in pockets (retro, lol) with keys, with a METAL clip as a wallet, never NOT ONCE did it get a single scratch..
IMO it takes a lot! a real lot to scratch glass, GLASS, regular glass, not including Gorilla glass..
My evo did scratch though, riding on my bike at 25mph I dropped it like an idiot taking it out of its mount.. On the asphalt it dragged about 50 feet glass down.
Either way, plastic or not, it would of went right through a dinky piece of plastic.
Either way, I know some people want it, I just think its complete over kill and makes the phone feel/look weird..
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I have..
But that argument doesn't really work because I can say Google the strength of Gorilla glass.
You will see people taking X-Acto knives to them.. People take hammers and so on..
I've had my evo for almost 2 years, with NO gorilla glass, never had a protector on it..
Tight jeans in pockets (retro, lol) with keys, with a METAL clip as a wallet, never NOT ONCE did it get a single scratch..
IMO it takes a lot! a real lot to scratch glass, GLASS, regular glass, not including Gorilla glass..
My evo did scratch though, riding on my bike at 25mph I dropped it like an idiot taking it out of its mount.. On the asphalt it dragged about 50 feet glass down.
Either way, plastic or not, it would of went right through a dinky piece of plastic.
Either way, I know some people want it, I just think its complete over kill and makes the phone feel/look weird..
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actually i go through a lot of phones. I buy and resell gs2's all the time.. And the skyrocket.. I have to say. The glass does get scratched. out of 7 phones I've seen 5 of them scratched. It can only resist a scratch for so long. It might not be a deep scratch, but with the correct angle and lighting, you can see the scratches.
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Oh i would like to add that it also helps the screen from shattering a bit too.. It might not be much, but it definitely helps.
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fastfed said:
LOL whatever... Mr.Wizard..
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I'll take that as a compliment.
Any screen protector adds value, but it's pros vs cons.
Even Corning's CES videos show that gorilla glass is NOT scratch proof. Where? They sand blasted it in the circled area to show 'wear'. Personally I think it is easily enough to simulate without going to that extreme by using a decent grit sandpaper and rubbing it over the screen for a few minutes with moderate force.
I also like the tacky feeling the zagg adds, so I don't see a reason to not have a screen protector in addition to whatever proprietary strength glass is on it's face.
Looks impresive probably will get it.
8Fishes said:
Looks to be similar to the zagg. I have one too and I don't think it's that bad.
then again, I'm not that 'oily' as a person...
On the plus side, it looks a lot less orange peely than the zagg.
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i know, the zagg is like a gator skin
fastfed said:
I have..
But that argument doesn't really work because I can say Google the strength of Gorilla glass.
You will see people taking X-Acto knives to them.. People take hammers and so on..
I've had my evo for almost 2 years, with NO gorilla glass, never had a protector on it..
Tight jeans in pockets (retro, lol) with keys, with a METAL clip as a wallet, never NOT ONCE did it get a single scratch..
IMO it takes a lot! a real lot to scratch glass, GLASS, regular glass, not including Gorilla glass..
My evo did scratch though, riding on my bike at 25mph I dropped it like an idiot taking it out of its mount.. On the asphalt it dragged about 50 feet glass down.
Either way, plastic or not, it would of went right through a dinky piece of plastic.
Either way, I know some people want it, I just think its complete over kill and makes the phone feel/look weird..
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Say that to my optimus v, have been using it for past year with no scratches and still going, sometimes i throw it at the floor with otterbox on and its like a bouncy ball. Nothing happend to it..... 3rd day on my galaxy s2 using it normally in the same pocket i had my optimus in and same exact jeans and it got scratched. Better be safe than have a phone that you won't like anymore.
For those who think Gorilla glass is scratch-free, try rubbing a few grains of beach sand on the screen. Come back tell me how you feel Ok!
Why not just keep one pocket dedicated to your phone and nothing else? I keep my phone in my front right pocket every single day and have never once scratched it... no stinking screen protector.

Got my first scratch. I used to think a screen protector was not necessary.

BUY A SCREEN PROTECTOR!
I woke up today and noticed my first scratch. Its about a quarter of an inch long and is really noticeable on a white screen due to the 'rainbow effect'. I use a nice hard silicone case which has done an amazing job protecting my phone from stupid drops and falls (I've had about 5 ).
I now believe that the tempered glass used with the Galaxy Nexus is NOT as strong as Gorilla Glass. Everyone I know with a Gorilla Glass phone doesn't have a screen protector and has NO scratches whatsoever.
Forgive my rambling. Do yourself a favor and buy a screen protector. I know I will be.
you forgot to add the *this message paid for by screen protector C co. jk haha
but seriously do you know what you did to scratch it? currently I've got an XO and androidified case on mine. But the other day I was at the gym and my nexus fell off an elliptical like machine (twice) the second time one of the feet things smacked it as it was falling (~4.5 ft) and the nexus went flying across the room.
Worse: It didn't have a case on, because I was trying to mod the touchstone tech into my case.
Awesome: picked it up popped the battery in, and it was completely unscathed. I don't understand what people are doing to crack/scratch this thing. It seems pretty solid to me.
I used XO Skins as well. They will fill in that scratch. Their video shows that. I also posted my review of their stuff linked in my signature, as well as about 500+ people on here.
Don't waste your money
Screen proctors are a waste of money, from iphone to droid x and blackberry, never had a scratched screen.
Not to make light of the situation, but I wonder what % of users would try to show a scratch with a screen capture? I'd say a solid 20%.
I got a single scratch too. I've had and used the iPhone 2g since launch and it has not a single scratch, so I am confused as to what I suddenly did differently. I'm sort of annoyed, but whatever =)
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BUY A SCREEN PROTECTOR!
I woke up today and noticed my first scratch. Its about a quarter of an inch long and is really noticeable on a white screen due to the 'rainbow effect'. I use a nice hard silicone case which has done an amazing job protecting my phone from stupid drops and falls (I've had about 5 ).
I now believe that the tempered glass used with the Galaxy Nexus is NOT as strong as Gorilla Glass. Everyone I know with a Gorilla Glass phone doesn't have a screen protector and has NO scratches whatsoever.
Forgive my rambling. Do yourself a favor and buy a screen protector. I know I will be.
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You scratched the oleophobic coating... not the glass.
I got a chip,
ordered xo, hopefully it fills it in
Always had a screen protector on my phone, I buy them off ebay (bought about 20 off the same seller, love his screen protectors). It just gives me a sense of mind if my phone falls, which it has. I also have an otterbox commuter (first time buying a case worth more than $10 ). But it has saved my phone.
6 Foot drop out of my friends window smack onto concrete, no scratches
scratch?
do you know what scratched your screen??? I sometimes put my car keys in the same pocket as my gnex (although I try not to) and I have not gotten a scratch yet. I can see dropping the phone resulting in a scratch but even drops won't protect gorilla glass completely.
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You scratched the oleophobic coating... not the glass.
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This is likely the case - especially if you can't 'feel' the scratch with your finger/nail.
no glass is scratch proof just some are more scratch resistance. Gorilla glass will still scratch, my Atrix had a few minor scratches. you notice when they do those demos at the gorilla glass booth they only use metal to try to scratch the screen? if someone tries to tell you that gorilla glass on their phone wont scratch ask them to prove it by rubbing some sand on the screen. Stuff like keys wont scratch your screen because they are relatively soft compared to the glass on your screen but stuff like sand and other glass can scratch a chemically tempered glass screen.
I have a scratch around a centimetre long, I can feel it with my fingernails so I agree it is most likely the coating that is damaged .. any ideas how to repair, cover, remove the damage?
No scratches on any phones EXCEPT my G2x which had Gorilla Glass...
Don't believe everything you hear. Although this round I am sporting an XO SP.
I had a screen protector on since day 1 until a couple days ago when it started getting jacked up in the corners. It's so silky smooth without it on that I don't plan on putting another screen protector on.
This is the first phone with which I've ever had a scratch. I pretty protective with my phones. I don't ever put it in the same pocket as my keys. I'm still not sure what I did that caused the scratch. It scared me into getting a screen protector for the first time. I can still barely see the scratch through it. I got a Ghost Armor.
I bought a screen protector weeks before I even bought the phone (as it wasn't available on the market at the time). I wasn't talking no chances. If they had the glass ones from Spigen available I would certainly upgrade. (too bad they can't make one due too the curved glass)
Gotta have a screen protector
No big scratches yet, but I have noticed some tiny scratches at the bottom where I have laid it down on it's screen from the first few weeks of use. Now I have a screen protector as well as a case.
While waiting for my bodyguardz to arrive(still waiting after 14 days), I went to buy a cheap screen protector even though it ruined the HD of the screen. Totally worth it though
A few hardly noticeable scratches but it still looks better than a screen covered in even the most highly regarded protector.
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Hairline scratches after 2 weeks

So... I've had my GN2 for exactly 2 weeks. I got a flip cover bundled with it, I figured the combination of the cover and my pocket would be sufficient protection from scratches. I clean the cover constantly to make sure there's no grit on it, and I wipe down the screen a couple times a day, because with my Galaxy S, I started noticing little knicks right away.
Checked the screen yesterday... aaaaand it's scratched. They're very light scratches, but they're long, and the screen has never touched anything but my finger, the pen, and the felt cover. For a device that's meant for use with a stylus, and especially for one with such a huge screen, I expected more.
Honestly, I think a screen protector would cover the scratches up. Long story short, if you're a stickler for surface quality, don't trust Gorilla Glass. I'm really surprised that this is still an issue. We're on what now, gorilla glass 4?
Well its GorillaGlass 2 on our devices
And However annoying, hairline scratches, (the ones visible only by angling your device at a light source for reflection) are perfectly normal.
I myself have actually taken a scalpel to gorilla glass in the past and left nothing more than hairline scratches indistinguishable from the other barely noticeable ones.
Old style glass (or iPhone glass) would've been done for
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If you expect perfection you should have a screen protector like me. I'm exactly the same way, and I had the screen protectors before I had my phone. Gorilla glass can be EASILY scratched by sand. It's just a fact of life. If it's the same hardness or harder than the Gorilla glass you can scratch it with it. And sand is usually quartz, which is the same hardness as gorilla glass.
if it's in your pocket, maybe a sand or something like it, you know that sand is pretty much stronger than metals.
Sounds like some grit got into a pocket. The stuff doesn't magically scratch itself.
Ok, update. I realized that the scratches are right where I slide my thumb to unlock the phone. I'm gonna guess that the Note has some kind of extra coating for smoother stylus use, which isn't as hard as the glass itself. I can't decide if this warrants a screen protector, which could sacrifice clarity and pen usability.
woops
Jergling said:
Ok, update. I realized that the scratches are right where I slide my thumb to unlock the phone. I'm gonna guess that the Note has some kind of extra coating for smoother stylus use, which isn't as hard as the glass itself. I can't decide if this warrants a screen protector, which could sacrifice clarity and pen usability.
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you can always get glass protector like GLAS.t and you won't sacrifice clarity or pen usability.
Jergling said:
Ok, update. I realized that the scratches are right where I slide my thumb to unlock the phone. I'm gonna guess that the Note has some kind of extra coating for smoother stylus use, which isn't as hard as the glass itself. I can't decide if this warrants a screen protector, which could sacrifice clarity and pen usability.
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Screen protector dose not bother S-pen, or clarity on the screen.
These are what I use. And they're guaranteed for life!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00AGABISW/ref=mp_s_a_1?qid=1365183403&sr=8-1&pi=SL75
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I just looked at the screen in the sun. There's a scratch for just about every time I've unlocked the phone, so either I'm growing cubic zirconium out of my skin, or something's wrong here. Not that growing cubic zirconium out of my skin would be normal.
Thanks for the suggestions. Hopefully the adhesive of the scene protector will fill in the scratches.
Jergling said:
So... I've had my GN2 for exactly 2 weeks. I got a flip cover bundled with it, I figured the combination of the cover and my pocket would be sufficient protection from scratches. I clean the cover constantly to make sure there's no grit on it, and I wipe down the screen a couple times a day, because with my Galaxy S, I started noticing little knicks right away.
Checked the screen yesterday... aaaaand it's scratched. They're very light scratches, but they're long, and the screen has never touched anything but my finger, the pen, and the felt cover. For a device that's meant for use with a stylus, and especially for one with such a huge screen, I expected more.
Honestly, I think a screen protector would cover the scratches up. Long story short, if you're a stickler for surface quality, don't trust Gorilla Glass. I'm really surprised that this is still an issue. We're on what now, gorilla glass 4?
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Yup, sand is tougher than the glass on any cellphone I've used so far. I hate screen protectors, but after the mess I made of my Galaxy Nexus and Iphone 4, I didn't even leave the mall without half ass putting a cheap screen protector on.
+1 on Screen protector. I also waited 1 week before I started using my note2 just to wait for my case to arrive. Oh that was a very tough waiting period.
I don't use my spen too much either.. came from skyrocket so I'm accustomed to just using my fingers.
No screen protectors don't sacrifice clarity or pen usability
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Weird, haven't used a screen protector on my Note or S3 and no issues here. Did the angeling in the light and everything. I guess I am that lucky?
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I work in a steel fabrication area, with microscopic dust particles everywhere. And to my surprise no scratch damage is present.
There is no screen protector on the device, and I never wipe the screen at work.
When I get home, I'll shower then use the damp towel to clean the device.
So far the glass seems okay.
The stories of this glass being soft are puzzling me a bit, as they seem to swing wildly to both ends of the quality spectrum.
I suppose only time will tell for me on this one. But so far it's doing well. ...g
I use outterbox and also a screen protector, and I haven't notice lost of anything. Only thing i don't like is outter box screen sometimes gets humidity in it.

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