It is 20 days since we report a problem with drops after update to 4.0.4 . I judge that it is already too long and we should already have a fix. Now when all customs roms are using a new base, people who have this problem are forced to use an old 4.0.2 because with 4.0.4 phone useless. I think it would be good to start ask Google for any official statement because it is embarrassing for me that that they have such approach to theirs flagship phone.
This thread https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=28133 shows that Google has completely no respect to us because there is now prove information that they even try to fix the problem.
Whats a shame Google.
Maybe should we start inform all gadget sites about this behavior?
Hey kid, stop being such a drama queen.
This is not how software development works. It takes time to iron out bugs. It takes time to first find out what causes the bug and then fix the bug and then it takes three times longer than that to make sure that the bug does not cause other bugs in the system.
Let's not forget how long 4.0.4 took to arrive in the first place. They originally released 4.0.3 and then discovered some bugs. Fixing those bugs apparently caused issues in 4.0.4 that no one saw coming, this means that the bug is not easy to find and is difficult to test for. They are doing it as fast as they can.
And let's not forget that not all devices are even affected. I've been on 4.0.4 ever since it was released and I've not experienced a single data drop. So it does not happen with all devices and may be region or carrier-specific. This makes it even more difficult to test for.
you honestly think they are able to push another update to a fix in 20 days?
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I judge that it is already too long and we should already have a fix.
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You seriously think 20 days is too long to identify the problem that doesn't affect all devices, develop a fix, test the fix, and push it out?
Just started noticing I have this problem.
I just reboot and it fixes, a hassle, but whatever. reboots pretty fast lol and only happens rarely
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You seriously think 20 days is too long to identify the problem that doesn't affect all devices, develop a fix, test the fix, and push it out?
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You don't, apparently.
1. It does not affect all devices.
2. Lets rush a fix and not test it so other issues can occur?
3. If the issue is a radio problem, Samsung needs to fix it for Google to push it.
Even if developers worked 24/7 including weekends and holidays, that is pretty humorous to think that.
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Samsung does nothing fast other than fatten their wallet. Yep, I said it, Google does not code radio firmware.
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You do, apparently.
1. It does not affect all devices.
2. Lets rush a fix and not test it so other issues can occur?
3. If the issue is a radio problem, Samsung needs to fix it for Google to push it.
Even if developers worked 24/7 including weekends and holidays, that is pretty humorous to think that.
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Samsung does nothing fast other than fatten their wallet. Yep, I said it, Google does not code radio firmware.
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The radio seems fine since I tried stock 4.0.2 with the XXLA02 radio (from the 4.0.4 package) and everything worked wonderfully.
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You do, apparently.
1. It does not affect all devices.
2. Lets rush a fix and not test it so other issues can occur?
3. If the issue is a radio problem, Samsung needs to fix it for Google to push it.
Even if developers worked 24/7 including weekends and holidays, that is pretty humorous to think that.
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Samsung does nothing fast other than fatten their wallet. Yep, I said it, Google does not code radio firmware.
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I do?
Same problem here, have to reboot to fix it, any alternative suggestion?
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To be honest I think it does affect all devices. I say this because I was away on business when 404 came out. Where I was I was in a lot of cinder block buildings and frequently without full signal. I had hspa and umts during that time but it wasn't a 21 or 42 mbps area like where I live. I often dropped signal on 404 that I didn't when I had 403 there. Now, after coming home back to my area that has a better coverage and such, I've not had one drop in signal. I really think its dependent on the towers and saturation whether you have the problem or not. I would still like to see a fix from Google. In the process of gaining battery life, I think they messed up smart reflex in respect to how it powers the antenna.
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I do?
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Lol, he must have misunderstood you.
No, it was a typo and I corrected it.
I meant to say, apparently, you do not. As in, he believes it only takes 20 days to diagnose, text, and implement a fix, which is funny
No fix is diagnosed day 1.
There is time to needed to find the problem.
There is time needed to create a fix.
There is time needed to properly test it, else other bugs show up.
Developers do not work 7 days a week.
Not every Android developer will be assigned to the fix.
There is time needed to ramp up an OTA again in two flavors, ICL53FD_to_IMM76D, and IMM76D_to_whateverthebuildnamewillbe.
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To be honest I think it does affect all devices. I say this because I was away on business when 404 came out. Where I was I was in a lot of cinder block buildings and frequently without full signal. I had hspa and umts during that time but it wasn't a 21 or 42 mbps area like where I live. I often dropped signal on 404 that I didn't when I had 403 there. Now, after coming home back to my area that has a better coverage and such, I've not had one drop in signal. I really think its dependent on the towers and saturation whether you have the problem or not. I would still like to see a fix from Google. In the process of gaining battery life, I think they messed up smart reflex in respect to how it powers the antenna.
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No it does not.
It does not affect CDMA devices, and I have found some GSM users on this forum it does not affect. Folks here just think that XDA is the hub of the world, and therefore if there is a large amount of issues being noted, it must be everyone. Because you know...everyone posts on XDA and other phone geek sites. I am not saying the bug isn't real, just that it isn't happening to EVERYONE.
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The radio seems fine since I tried stock 4.0.2 with the XXLA02 radio (from the 4.0.4 package) and everything worked wonderfully.
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It still could be the radios. There is a reason they change radios with each release.
For example, 4.0.4 by itself for CDMA users does not see a signal improvement. 4.0.4 radios on a 4.0.2 or 4.0.3 rom does not see signal improvements. However, 4.0.4 rom and 4.0.4 leaked radio firmware sees a signal improvement.
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I do?
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It was a typo, but you knew that.
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Lol, he must have misunderstood you.
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reading is difficult..
Some people have reported getting the IMM76I update starting about an hour ago, so for those with the issue, it may help you.
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You don't, apparently.
1. It does not affect all devices.
2. Lets rush a fix and not test it so other issues can occur?
3. If the issue is a radio problem, Samsung needs to fix it for Google to push it.
Even if developers worked 24/7 including weekends and holidays, that is pretty humorous to think that.
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Samsung does nothing fast other than fatten their wallet. Yep, I said it, Google does not code radio firmware.
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He was saying it with sarcasm. You should probably learn what that means before replying.
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He was saying it with sarcasm. You should probably learn what that means before replying.
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He wasn't being sarcastic. Nice try.
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reading is difficult..
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Sure is, considering I said several times it was a typo and you still didn't comprehend.
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We're trying to determine the "root" (pun intended) of the problem so if you wanna come in here and start a fight go find a local bar to do so. We need to try and locate the source of the problem so either post something useful or walk away.
There seems to be some confusion and I dont know if its being ignored or what but theres an issue with these kernels that needs to be looked into further before new ones continue to be released.
Theres an obvious problem for a good amount of people and everytime I look I see comments that there isnt a problem. So heres everything I could quickly find regarding it.
Now Im not trying to be a **** about this but I dont get how the issue is unheard of when its one of the biggest topics in this section. And so we're clear, this is happening in ALL kernels. Unfortunately its been more profound in Zedos because it seems more people went with his method.
All Im asking is before more and more kernels are released that someone at least acknowledge the problem and see if it can be addressed before more and more people root and start complaining because they were told there was no LO.S. bug
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data drop? dunno about that, this shizzle will not drop. It's ZEDOMAX!
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zedomax said:
jump and we will find out. no they should be worked out. there was no data loss kinks in da first place, where did u get that?
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joetemp75 said:
Man I was fine then I flashed v5 and got the no signal issue
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SupahDave said:
Everything seemed to be fine last night but today I've had 4 separate times now where my phone has lost signal all together and needed to be rebooted to get phone/data back. When this has happened I tried going into About-->Status to see if I could see anything odd and I kept getting a FC of com.android.phone
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jimbobtexas said:
I did. No love. I'm without a signal, period.
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MILH0U5E said:
Got the no signal issue here too. I put it in airplane mode overnight and upon waking this morning the no signal circle was there. I had to do a reboot to get 3g and cell signal back.
Looking forward to seeing this process develop.
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wbyrd said:
Yeah this just happened to me too, everything was fine this morning then I played a game of solitaire and after going back to my home screen I saw the circle. Rebooted phone and everything came back on. It's possible that the circle was there before I played the game of solitaire but I didn't notice until right after I quit playing.
Hopefully it gets straightened out soon. At least rebooting fixes the problem, I can handle rebooting for a little while if needed.
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plmiller0905 said:
I can't really deal with the issue of having no service. My daughter has a heart issue and can't afford to miss a call. It's not like I walk around all day literally looking at my phone's screen seeing if I have service or not.
I did reboot...so like your's my service is back up.
But I definitely hope this gets fixed soon. I'd rather have root with broken heptic feedback than the inability to receive calls.
But I'm sure the Op the get it fixed...
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volwrath said:
I've had a dead call issue and also tday my radios were just dead and there was a circle in the middle of the notification barr. A reboot fixed the issues each time, but I think it might be a problem. I thing newer kernels will also fix said issues. Still very satisfied
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JLine05 said:
I am having the issue of the phone (voice) and sms not working. Strange because everything else is working fine. Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks.
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mcflargen said:
Still seems to have the data drop issue. Popped it on the second u dropped it, was great till a min ago. least a "restart" fixes it.
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joetemp75 said:
Man I just lost data again. This sucks
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kindaskimpy said:
I'm giving this one a try because with the zedomax kernel I kept losing 3G and CDMA calling and not even noticing it unless someone told me they'd been trying to reach me for hours. A quick reboot would solve the issue but then it would happen again.
I'll report back and let you guys know if this one is giving me the same issue.
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bbedward said:
I did this one because losing service on the other one, haven't lost it yet but its only been a couple hours
Sent from my sprint galaxy s2
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fordmanck said:
I tried both, i'm back on this one. I lost service with zedos twice and haven't on this at all.
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Telling you right now someone is going to come in here and go "this belongs in General" then a mod will move your thread and deduct 5 points from something, not sure...but just a heads up
I also see a lot of people having issues, but I'm now on day 2 of flashing Zedo V1 and have yet to experience any of these issues. Not sure what I did different, but everything just works... The only thing I did was after rooting was getting my MSL from Sprint and erased the proxy servers in the ##3282 menu.
EDIT: Ok, I just lost service 1 1/2 day after rooting... Bug finally hit me..
I dont mind it being moved and I have no clue what the deduction in "points" does but I'll deal with it.
Now Im getting much better battery but I know people are still losing service on the new OC kernel. My roommate happens to be on e the unlucky ones.
Man...thanks for posting this. Hopefully the mod doesn't close this thread. This definitely is a concern and a serious matter. I don't care if these kernels are, "use at your own risk" these kernels should've been listed as betas, and/or the bugs should've been listed and further testing should have been. If those steps were taken, I bet a lot of people would've held back from flashing them. I know I would have.
Shabby posted this earlier in the other thread (post 160):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1267762&page=16
One thing that got to me was this morning I woke up, hoping to see a stock kernel and/or a way to return to stock. And instead, I see a new overclockable kernel. To me that's just not right. I think that you have to prioritize. That's like putting out a rom that has all data broke. Then instead of fixing it, you put out another rom...while disregarding the issues with the first rom. At least acknowledge the issue and let everyone know it's been worked on....don't just blow it off.
I know some of the devs over in the Evo forums was good about this....if something went haywire with one of their roms or mods...they were all on top of it to get the issue fixed and they also communicated with posting updates on the matter.
Like I said, hopefully the mods don't close this.
I'm definately gonna follow this thread...thanks Wingzfan
i rooted yesterday using zedomax method, did the OC kernel last night.. havent had any issues so far ..
plmiller0905 said:
Shabby posted this earlier in the other thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1267762&page=16
post 160
I'm definately gonna follow this thread...thanks Wingzfan
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Bubby does have the stock kernel pulled. I was testing it till 1:30 in the morning but he's gotta recompile it. It was bootlooping so today thats his first order of business.
As for the kernels, I flashed it by choice. I dont blame the devs for ANYTHING, Im just saying acknowledge theres a bug and lets see how to resolve it.
I've been reading through the rooted kernel threads as well prior to jumping on the root wagon and have seen several people mention that they are not rooted and have experienced the loss of service so it seems that the issue may not be exclusive to the rooted kernels...possibly a Samsung bug?
Very possible which is why im hoping we can get an idea of how man people are rooted vs non rooted having it. Now the only thing is I cant find any complaints online about nonrooted phones doing it except a few here and youd think it'd be widely discussed
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OrygunGal said:
I've been reading through the rooted kernel threads as well prior to jumping on the root wagon and have seen several people mention that they are not rooted and have experienced the loss of service so it seems that the issue may not be exclusive to the rooted kernels...possibly a Samsung bug?
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Yeah...I read those too. However, I never lost any service at home with any android phone I've owned..Nexus S 4g, all Evo's, Epics etc. Then today I wake up and I have no service....maybe it is a samsung bug, but I'd rather return to stock myself to see if the issue was still there.
Stocks on its way i promise. Probly tonight actually. Bubby was really close last night. Once we get that Id be curious to see what happens.
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Stocks on its way i promise. Probly tonight actually. Bubby was really close last night. Once we get that Id be curious to see what happens.
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Sounds good...can't wait
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This is an issue that started with mine also yesterday. But not only did I lose data but gps also. A reboot fixed it but I would like to know whats going on. I just came from the evo 3d and there was an issue that had to do with the prl so I am going to give that a shot with the 11115 prl that fixed the evo. Will post back with the results later today.
On V5, Ive only had the loss of data once in about 12 hours, versus about 3 times on Zedo V1.
I also did http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17703908&postcount=11 for the hell of it to see if that helped (even though I got it at a sprint store)
For the record:
A) People have reported this issue even on the stock kernel. It is not clear where the cause is.
B) For kicks (and because it cannot hurt) I did the whole profile/PRL update thing that someone suggested. Be it luck or real benefit, I have no had the issue since.
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Very possible which is why im hoping we can get an idea of how man people are rooted vs non rooted having it. Now the only thing is I cant find any complaints online about nonrooted phones doing it except a few here and youd think it'd be widely discussed
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I would think it would be widely discussed as well so that seems odd. I'm waiting to see what evolves or at least for stock kernel (an undo) before flashing a rooted one. I don't have TEP.
It's still a bit early for the issue to be too widely discussed.
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For the record:
A) People have reported this issue even on the stock kernel. It is not clear where the cause is.
B) For kicks (and because it cannot hurt) I did the whole profile/PRL update thing that someone suggested. Be it luck or real benefit, I have no had the issue since.
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Nice. I was told by a helpful Sprint cust. serv. rep. a while back that you should update your PRL & Profile when you go into a new area (tavel, move, or even long commute to work) regardless of which phone you have. I would think unboxing your phone would qualify as well. It sure couldn't hurt.
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It's still a bit early for the issue to be too widely discussed.
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Good point. Many people would not likely research on the web/forums, instead they'd likely address the issue directly with Sprint.
plmiller0905 said:
Yeah...I read those too. However, I never lost any service at home with any android phone I've owned..Nexus S 4g, all Evo's, Epics etc. Then today I wake up and I have no service....maybe it is a samsung bug, but I'd rather return to stock myself to see if the issue was still there.
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Ever owned a Samsung phone before?
This is my 3rd one and I swore after the last one Id never buy a Samsung phone again but I got sucked back in. Samsung is notorious for shipping phones with all kinds of bugs that should be considered showstoppers then pushing out fixes months later.
It would not surprise me at all if that was the case here. I am one of the ones having this issue and I am not rooted. Ive lost data several times after hanging up a call. The data never restores and I have to toggle 3G to get it come back.
I dont think this is a kernel issue. I think its something to do with the rest of the OS, either that or the kernel is a different problem thats just acting the same way.
Ok thats what i was hoping to find is nonrooted and rooted people who are having the issue. Now on my moment this issue was huge so i went to htc and maybe thats the case again. Maybe sammy dropped the ball again. Question is what can be done about it.
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I've been reading this forum for the past two days trying to see if there is a similar thread with this issue. Please point me in the right direction if there is a similar thread resolving this issue (this forum is colossal!).
I recently bought a UK version GSM Galaxy Nexus running Modaco 4.0.2 Ir8. I'm using it on T-Mobile's network (The GN is replacing my HTC Sensation).
The gentleman that sold it to me had already unlocked, rooted, and flashed it with Modaco. It works blazing fast. The only thing is that when ever I make a phone call it literally drops in less than 5 minutes. The signal seems to be switching like crazy from 3G to HSPA+ as well.
I've called TMO and they have no clue what the issue is (4 different reps told me 4 different things from needing to factory reset to the towers being down etc.).
Again the phone works great besides the fact that I can't make a phone call for more than a couple of minutes before it drops.
Has anyone seen this with their GN? Is it the phone? The Mod? Are T-Mobile's towers not able to pick up this phone's radios because it's from the UK?
How can I go about fixing this (Factory reset? etc.)? I'm literally about to factory reset this thing this morning when I get home from work.
I don't really have too much experience as far as rooting goes but willing to learn and get this issue resolved.
What radio version are you using?
I'm on T-Mobile and xxkk6 works well for me.
If you don't know what you have, I suggest u go to the dev section and start reading for a while
xxkk6 at the least should be on there. i think there is xxkl7 possibly. the xxkk6 is the stock radio, but if there is a kk7 or kl7 might want to try that as it would be a later version.
How can I tell which radio version I'm on and does it give me the option to switch it?
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What radio version are you using?
I'm on T-Mobile and xxkk6 works well for me.
If you don't know what you have, I suggest u go to the dev section and start reading for a while
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Jjonlife said:
How can I tell which radio version I'm on and does it give me the option to switch it?
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Settings, about phone.
I had similar problems until I switched to KK6.
This thread has all the different basebands:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1405345
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA App
I've been reading the forum for a minute and haven't noticed any threads regarding this issue. Bear in mind this forum has like 1 thousand threads to go over.
Jjonlife said:
I've been reading the forum for a minute and haven't noticed any threads regarding this issue. Bear in mind this forum has like 1 thousand threads to go over.
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I was using KK1 before and it was absolutely fine until about a week ago, then I started to get dropped calls etc.
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How can I tell which radio version I'm on and does it give me the option to switch it?
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I'm on xxk1. How do I switch to kk6?
Thanks for sending me that link. Which baseband set up would be good for the US (NYC specifically). They all look like they are designed for European areas.
And once I put in my Sim card, why didn't the phone just figure out with Radioband to attach itself to?
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Settings, about phone.
I had similar problems until I switched to KK6.
This thread has all the different basebands:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1405345
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Thanks for sending me that link. Which baseband set up would be good for the US (NYC specifically). They all look like they are designed for European areas.
And once I put in my Sim card, why didn't the phone just figure out with Radioband to attach itself to?
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Basebands beginning with UG are for north America. I think there are a couple of threads in the dev section about UG basebands, it might be worth have a look at those.
KK7 Thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1382699
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Thanks for the link. After reading through a couple of pages I'm starting to realize that I have no idea what the hell is going on with switching radio bands. Even worse, I have not read about any instances where one or the other will work very well in NYC (my area).
Is there a grid which shows which radio band is for which area? Anyone know of anywhere that shows the step by way to do this?
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Basebands beginning with UG are for north America. I think there are a couple of threads in the dev section about UG basebands, it might be worth have a look at those.
KK7 Thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1382699
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Thanks for the link. After reading through a couple of pages I'm starting to realize that I have no idea what the hell is going on with switching radio bands. Even worse, I have not read about any instances where one or the other will work very well in NYC (my area).
Is there a grid which shows which radio band is for which area? Anyone know of anywhere that shows the step by way to do this?
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See section 3 in the first post of this thread for a step by step guide:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1392310
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I appreciate that. Will be looking into it later this morning when I get off work.
For anyone who had to do this process: Is this a normal thing when rooting and flashing, to have to find a better baseband etc.? Is it because my phone is a UK version that TMO is having an issue dropping my calls?
And lastly, anyone know what the best baseband/radio is suitable for NYC? And why doesn't the phone just figure out which is the best baseband?
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See section 3 in the first post of this thread for a step by step guide:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1392310
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Jjonlife said:
I appreciate that. Will be looking into it later this morning when I get off work.
For anyone who had to do this process: Is this a normal thing when rooting and flashing, to have to find a better baseband etc.? Is it because my phone is a UK version that TMO is having an issue dropping my calls?
And lastly, anyone know what the best baseband/radio is suitable for NYC? And why doesn't the phone just figure out which is the best baseband?
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the baseband should work. it's gsm, the world standard. but i'm guessing since i don't know exactly what is tweaked, but that the specific baseband for your region will bias your phone for the known networks. ugkk7 works great for me. atnt. i think there is a ugkl6 or 7. sometimes you have to test them. some will work better for others. some will work great and not eat battery. if it eats battery, try another one. i think samsung is decent about releasing different radios for different regions. it can be confusing. now when it's comes to updating their roms, that is a different story.
Ok,
The baseband def has to be affecting my battery. I'm getting not even 10 hours on a full charge from moderate use.
I don't really know exactly what the first owner did to it, only what he told me.
My plan is to bring it back to factory settings (found an article about how to restore the GSM version, but have yet to find any youtube videos abou it....I only see LTE videos on rooting and unrooting, and I'm not sure if it's the same process so I'm not touching those).
If that doesn't help it then I'll go about flashing and changing the baseband.
Again this whole baseband business is really new to me. The input you guys have been giving so far is much appreciated.
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the baseband should work. it's gsm, the world standard. but i'm guessing since i don't know exactly what is tweaked, but that the specific baseband for your region will bias your phone for the known networks. ugkk7 works great for me. atnt. i think there is a ugkl6 or 7. sometimes you have to test them. some will work better for others. some will work great and not eat battery. if it eats battery, try another one. i think samsung is decent about releasing different radios for different regions. it can be confusing. now when it's comes to updating their roms, that is a different story.
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Update:
Ended up coming home early from work and staying up all morning trying to figure this out. I decided on using this link first: (http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/restore-galaxy-nexus-to-stock-how-to/)
to re-lock. That took about 4 hours of troubleshooting and getting to know the lingo and terminology. Then from a combination of other youtube videos I spent another 4 hours trying to figure out how to lock the bootloader. Believe it or not the Xda link about this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1392310) saved me from losing my mind. I literally didn't go to sleep until I made sure I brought the phone back to factory settings.
After I finally got the phone back to factory settings (believe me, it wasn't fun figuring this out especially when I've never rooted before) I noticed the wifi wasn't working, or had a very weak signal. Content with the phone at least being back on factory settings and locked, I go to sleep and wake up today seeing the same issue with the wifi (mean while, I now have good signal/service...didn't even have to mess with the baseband radio config).
I restart the router in our house and power down the phone and restart. Problem fixed.
Not really sure why or how, but bringing the phone back to factory settings seems to make it work just as fast as it worked when Modaco Ir8 4.0.2 was on it. Except now I have amazing Service signal.
I can honestly state that rooting really isn't for me especially with the notion that with every new mod that comes out you have to be flashing on a constant basis. Even though I almost lost my mind trying to figure this out, I would still rather have this approach vs Apple's walled garden approach though. Any day.
One of the reasons I like the Nexus line of phones is that it's pretty much the only Android phone that gets all the updates first and on a constant basis. Which makes it such an awesome phone in that it's also the phone that Google allows any and all capabilities to be customized. I have true respect for all the devs out there who attack this stuff daily.
Just be sure to get enough exercise in and healthy meals along with rest lol.
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Update:
Ended up coming home early from work and staying up all morning trying to figure this out. I decided on using this link first: (http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/restore-galaxy-nexus-to-stock-how-to/)
to re-lock. That took about 4 hours of troubleshooting and getting to know the lingo and terminology. Then from a combination of other youtube videos I spent another 4 hours trying to figure out how to lock the bootloader. Believe it or not the Xda link about this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1392310) saved me from losing my mind. I literally didn't go to sleep until I made sure I brought the phone back to factory settings.
After I finally got the phone back to factory settings (believe me, it wasn't fun figuring this out especially when I've never rooted before) I noticed the wifi wasn't working, or had a very weak signal. Content with the phone at least being back on factory settings and locked, I go to sleep and wake up today seeing the same issue with the wifi (mean while, I now have good signal/service...didn't even have to mess with the baseband radio config).
I restart the router in our house and power down the phone and restart. Problem fixed.
Not really sure why or how, but bringing the phone back to factory settings seems to make it work just as fast as it worked when Modaco Ir8 4.0.2 was on it. Except now I have amazing Service signal.
I can honestly state that rooting really isn't for me especially with the notion that with every new mod that comes out you have to be flashing on a constant basis. Even though I almost lost my mind trying to figure this out, I would still rather have this approach vs Apple's walled garden approach though. Any day.
One of the reasons I like the Nexus line of phones is that it's pretty much the only Android phone that gets all the updates first and on a constant basis. Which makes it such an awesome phone in that it's also the phone that Google allows any and all capabilities to be customized. I have true respect for all the devs out there who attack this stuff daily.
Just be sure to get enough exercise in and healthy meals along with rest lol.
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some people actually recommend factory resetting your device from the get go. i would, but i always just run with the hardware just to make sure the hardware and stress i throw at it will handle all the roms and stuff. and to exchange my phone if finding there is a problem.
Good to hear that you got it sorted out in the end
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Rooting/Flashing is great IMO for people who will never have the luxury of getting updates like Nexus phones get. Take control in your own hands on when you decide you want to update(s) etc.
I'm sure any Devs out there (like on this forum) also love tinkering. To each his own.
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some people actually recommend factory resetting your device from the get go. i would, but i always just run with the hardware just to make sure the hardware and stress i throw at it will handle all the roms and stuff. and to exchange my phone if finding there is a problem.
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Indeed. I def learned a lesson: Never let anyone ever root your phone for you. The guy who rooted it for me was nice enough to say I could email him for questions but the more I kept emailing him the more I could tell he was probably getting frustrated at all my worrisome questions ("I'm dropping calls", "Is it because of the rooting?", "My wifi isn't working", "is it because of the rooting?..." etc.).
Just glad to know there are tons of available options for one to seek out help when issues like this arise.
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Good to hear that you got it sorted out in the end
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Issue: \data partititon become corrupt for no obvious reason.
Manifests itself through: Freezes followed eventually by (endless) reboots
When: Randomly when you install new apps (may be every day as it can happen only every other week/month), or setting up apps (like Twitter, mail, etc)
Temporary solution: Re-flash Samsung FW but lose ALL YOUR DATA. Attention: CWM restore will not fix the problem!
---- Here goes a link to the fabulous mskip's tutorial, you will find here everything you need to get it back up temporarily
I experienced this in 401, 402, 403 and 404, some were expecting better data integrity in 404... I confirm this is not the case
I would not go as far as saying that this is 100% the reason, but it looks like the NAND quality is craaaaaap! There is no external SD card, Android should be able to do a perfect job now at handling info and preserving quality of data.
I will contact Samsung and ask for a refund (if at all possible)... Disgusting thing to put such a piece of s''t on the market without proper testing and call it "flagship/pure Google experience". This is not an isolated issue, it happens to at least half of the people around and the others may have not seen it yet (it all depends on how often you manipulate data on the phone)...
Any advice, I am inetersted, have tried pretty much everything so far and did not solve the problem...
DO YOU HAVE THE SAME ISSUE? Let your voice heard...
DO YOU HAVE THE SAME ISSUE?
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No. Could it be possible you're overreacting?
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No. Could it be possible you're overreacting?
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Agree as well ..seems more like rubbish
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Thanks David, you're of great help :/
Overreacting? Glad you had a better sample, I bet you would "overreact" as well if you spent 500£ on a piece of junk losing all you data on a daily basis.
But hey, this is not happening to you, right ?
Community means lots of people, some are here to help, others just looking for a social life while trolling on this forum.
Sorry mate, I am trying to get through to the first category...
Umm, sounds like you need a replacement phone.
Deep breath....deep breath.
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Umm, sounds like you need a replacement phone.
Deep breath....deep breath.
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Right While i'm catching my breath, found another thread pointing to the same issue IMHO (didn't not see it initially):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1490815
Attempting to contact Samsung already...
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Thanks David, you're of great help :/
Overreacting? Glad you had a better sample, I bet you would "overreact" as well if you spent 500£ on a piece of junk losing all you data on a daily basis.
But hey, this is not happening to you, right ?
Community means lots of people, some are here to help, others just looking for a social life while trolling on this forum.
Sorry mate, I am trying to get through to the first category...
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Your first post came across as a hysterical rant - this is the first I've heard of the problem so it's not affecting many phones, and ultimately Samsung are going to have the occasional dodgy NAND chip. Sounds like you got one.
If you'd had several phones and they'd all exhibited this problem you'd be right to be peeved, but it simply sounds like you've been unlucky and are pissed off about it. Have you even discussed it with Samsung's tech support or taken it back to the shop you bought it from?
And accusing an XDA recognised developer of trolling is not a great start to your time here.
I've not heard of other people having this problem with the Gnex? Who are these other people having this same problem? Maybe speak with them and see if a replacement phone might solve the problem. I really hope you can get this fixed and not give up on such a great platform.
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This is not an isolated issue, it happens to at least half of the people around and the others may have not seen it yet (it all depends on how often you manipulate data on the phone)...
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The burden of evidence is on you bro. That is a pretty bold claim.
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...And accusing an XDA recognized developer of trolling is not a great start to your time here.
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Respect for your dev background (haven't used any of your ROMs yet), in all fairness I'm far less impressed with your communication skills... I must agree though, my message may have come across as too abrupt and you're right again, I am going to sort it out with Samsung...
Did not mean to get people horrified, rather to blow the whistle on a worrying and annoying bug and smth people may consider if they come across or consider a purchase.
For having worked in the mobile comm semiconductors space for years, I know just what sets apart a serious company from a me-too profile. Surprised to see Samsung having this king of issues. Normally they are ironed out easily though SW regression tests and HW stress processes (at least at serious OEMs).
I will let one of the moderators judge if my crime is so serious, your ego will survive, I'm sure I will come back when/if issue solved (or in good progress).
yeah, mine is fine. If it was a widespread problem I would back your corner, but I seems rather isolated. Rather then cause mass hysteria I would say you need to return your handset
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This happened to mine. But only once.
Quite frustrating, as my phone is my alarm clock and it was bootlooping when I needed to go to sleep!
However, a reflash of the 4.0.2 stock images sorted it out, and no problems since. I'm pretty sure I caused it by pulling out the battery at some sensitive point in a reboot or something.
If this happens to you frequently, then you need to exchange your phone.
Also, I think this could be a pretty good resource as opposed to a rant if you put your mind to it. I'm not a developer, but I'm also not a total n00b, and it took me a little while to figure out how to fix the problem, when I had it. I'm sure there are people out there who would appreciate a guide.
In this thread, op is going through that time of the month, when was his own modification back fires in his face, his explosive emotions reek havoc on an online forum.
If you want to see a device with bad nand memory, see the HTC Desire S forum .
Also the reboots and freezes I used to experience on my device were application related. Device hasn't frozen, nor rebooted in about *looks at up time* .. 27 days .
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... I was actually referring to a poll in another thread (link in this thread) concluding that half of the people who answered have experienced freezes and reboots... it may be biased somewhat by the fact that people who experienced the issue are more likely to vote than those who didn't... maybe an overstatement from me.
Get the odd reboot (Chrome seems to provoke, strangely) but zero data corruption in 3+ months of heavy use. (4.0.3 AOKP)
Sorry, no endemic fault that I can see here (from reading these forums) and if I were you I'd be looking for a warranty replacement. Refund will depend on your location and supplier and duration of ownership.
Daern
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First I heard about this too. I've flashed tons of roms and mods and constantly installing uninstalling apps.
The GNex has been anything but non-stable. I think I've had to pull the battery once or twice since ownership. Never heard anyone complain about randomly losing all their data... especially not daily. Perhaps on a bad flash in CWM.
Maybe you should look into a super wipe that completely erases everything, deletes the partition tables and recreates everything from scratch. Maybe it'll help but it honestly sounds defective.
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Thanks Player911... Interesting idea, was thinking as well to do a total wipe and sort of a sector-by-sector reformat, but could not find a way of doing it. Is there any tool that would allow me to do it? Maybe this will isolate bad sectors...
Will check shortly with Samsung folks, thanks mate! (what slows me down is the fact that I'm currently travelling to the US and the guarantee is only European and it's Sunday= hotline is closed in Europe).
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Get the odd reboot (Chrome seems to provoke, strangely) but zero data corruption in 3+ months of heavy use. (4.0.3 AOKP)
Sorry, no endemic fault that I can see here (from reading these forums) and if I were you I'd be looking for a warranty replacement. Refund will depend on your location and supplier and duration of ownership.
Daern
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Uhh, I don't believe my reboots are due to this. Just saying. That whole thread does not point to your theory as the issue. I'm gonna go ahead and call this myth busted and suggest you go get a replacement because this is just another extremist "my phone is busted but I refuse to get a new one" thread.
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You've been Samsunged
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Just want to know if there is any news about the latest GSM update because I have not received it and yes I'm on Google build.
With all the reports of signal problems and others have they pulled the update?
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Nope.
http://code.google.com/android/nexus/images.html
as OTA it seems that yes, it has been pulled
I don't think its being "pushed" per say, but the OTA link usually stays up.
Search around for it.
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as OTA it seems that yes, it has been pulled
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That's just speculation. It's more likely that they are collecting feedback from the first wave of updates as JBQ said. After all, the entire reason for not rolling it out to everyone at the same time is so that they can see that the updated devices come back up and seem to work normally.
Think of it this way. If you push out the update to 100 phones and 70 of them never come back up (ie. they don't login to Google within a certain amount of time), then you have a potential problem with the update.
Maybe not pulled since you can still get the factory image but OTA rollout has been stopped according to a vodafone rep: http://forum.vodafone.co.uk/t5/Google-Nexus/ICS-4-04-Update/m-p/1073311#M13631
There is no OTA 4.0.4 update for more than one week for yakju build devices.
I wouldn't complain if it has. A lot of GSM users complaining of radio troubles during sleep.
Does not affect CDMA users though
Seems like the tables turned on radio issues in 4.0.4. CDMA is better, GSM...not so much.
I don't know if it's been pulled as I've already updated to 4.0.4 but I can say that mine is problem free (thank god).
I find it strange that it doesn't affect everyone.... Anyone have any idea why?
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Does not affect CDMA users though
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That's because most CDMA folks are still on 4.0.2
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I don't know if it's been pulled as I've already updated to 4.0.4 but I can say that mine is problem free (thank god).
I find it strange that it doesn't affect everyone.... Anyone have any idea why?
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There are multitudes of factors to account for when diagnosing or replicating problems across all devices that are not equal per se. I didn't think I had the problem until my text stopped sending after clicking enter. The signal dropped out as well as other radios were gone for a brief moment.
I think it's only a matter of time before it happens to most people.
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I can definitely say my cell network data connection has refused to function on multiple occasions on 4.0.4. Possibly the sleep issue. Once restarting the phone fixed it, once not even doing a battery pull could fix it. It started working again at some random time later. I was trying to nail down if walking far enough that being a different tower fixed it or not.
Definitely given the amount of people complaining and the fact I've seen some wonky data connection issues it seems there is a bug.
I bought mine from Negri back in November, it came with yakju. On TMo in NYC.
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I'm guessing a rushed 4.0.5 is soon to be released to fix the sleep and signal issues.
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I'm guessing a rushed 4.0.5 is soon to be released to fix the sleep and signal issues.
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When you say rushed, that means at least a month from now, right? It is Google after all.
But I'm not going to complain about 4.0.4; it works fine for me. What I still hate is the poor communication from Google.
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That's because most CDMA folks are still on 4.0.2
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According to AOSP we are on 4.0.4....not everyone is a victim
I haven't been on 4.0.2 since December of last year.
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When you say rushed, that means at least a month from now, right? It is Google after all.
But I'm not going to complain about 4.0.4; it works fine for me. What I still hate is the poor communication from Google.
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Yeah, I know the .001% of the population on XDA wants weekly massive improvement updates streaming to their Nexi, but it is simply unrealistic. This stuff takes time.
Silence is aggravating, but our phones get updates a LIGHT SPEED vs. any other Android phone. I'll take that any day of the week despite not getting an hourly update from the Android developers working on the inside. They're busy, believe me.
Go here and see the issue. http://code.google.com/p/android/is...s Owner Summary Stars&groupby=&sort=&id=28133
I don't believe this is the fault of any ROM but actually a problem with Android/Google. So post in this thread and maybe when Google wakes up one day they will fix the issue. It killed me to see they rate the issue as Medium and not critical or at least Major!
this is a radio issue specific to quality control by samsung. issue has been addressed method of fix is to call in for replacement device
Thanks for the input, can you please supply me the official Google or Samsung news that this is a bug by Samsung and we should RMA it.
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this is a radio issue specific to quality control by samsung. issue has been addressed method of fix is to call in for replacement device
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26009296#post26009296
I found your post and sorry to say but I don't buy it. Google has already stated they know about the problem with data drops, I posted the actual thread tracking the issue. I suggest that others post there too and say they have the problem. More posts = more attention. There is absolutely nothing there saying Samsung is at fault. But please, I am open to any ticket or comment from Samsung acknowledging that my phone is a lemon.
Qualcomm makes the radio in the Nexus. Don't see how Samsung is at fault at all.
Not to mention, Google chose it and closely monitors development.
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noticed the problem the first time i accessed the play pen. i have had my phone for only a few hours.
I just spoke with a Samsung rep over their Live Chat line on their site. They have no such issue with radio's for the Nexus model. No recall and no news announcements about this issue. She said to me that they are unaware of any problems of data drop with the phone, she apologized for the problems and suggested that I contact Google about the problem. I wanted to confirm after that guy responded here about RMA'ing the phone. Did not make any sense and there are LOTS of people with the problem. It all started with 4.0.4. I imagine we will see a fix for this issue soon. Like I said, more people who post they have the issue the faster it will get resolved.
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I just spoke with a Samsung rep over their Live Chat line on their site. They have no such issue with radio's for the Nexus model. No recall and no news announcements about this issue. She said to me that they are unaware of any problems of data drop with the phone, she apologized for the problems and suggested that I contact Google about the problem. I wanted to confirm after that guy responded here about RMA'ing the phone. Did not make any sense and there are LOTS of people with the problem. It all started with 4.0.4. I imagine we will see a fix for this issue soon. Like I said, more people who post they have the issue the faster it will get resolved.
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lots of people is relative. usually people with problems scream the largest, but what is the % of those people in relation to the total number of phones sold.
samsung/google are the only ones that know that magic number.
Has anyone tried this? I will give it a go when I get off work....
Edit.sorry wrong link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24545086&postcount=73
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Qualcomm makes the radio in the Nexus. Don't see how Samsung is at fault at all.
Not to mention, Google chose it and closely monitors development.
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Actually, Samsung has branded the CDMA radio, and VIA makes the LTE radio. Not sure who does the GSM one.
It might have licensed Qualcomm tech in it, but they arent Qualcomm radios.
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lots of people is relative. usually people with problems scream the largest, but what is the % of those people in relation to the total number of phones sold.
samsung/google are the only ones that know that magic number.
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the problem is pretty rampant and probably more so for GSM users. I doubt Samsung can tell you how many GSM vs CDMA user there are. I don't just frequent this site, I frequent dozens of others sites and the problem is reported on all sites. That tells me MANY people are having the problem. I'd like to keep this thread on topic rather than detract from the problem at hand. Thanks.
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Go here and see the issue. http://code.google.com/p/android/is...s Owner Summary Stars&groupby=&sort=&id=28133
I don't believe this is the fault of any ROM but actually a problem with Android/Google. So post in this thread and maybe when Google wakes up one day they will fix the issue. It killed me to see they rate the issue as Medium and not critical or at least Major!
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You know this article was addressed in IMM76I, right?
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You know this article was addressed in IMM76I, right?
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All I know that I'm on 76I and still getting massive signal drops. Very frustrating. Tried dozens of different ROMS, kernels, radios, clock speeds, etc.
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What if you go back to 4.0.2?
Have the same issue as those that are complaining about the data drop issue.
1, after upgraded to stock 4.0.4, the reported issue starts happening.
2, I tried custom ROM, AOKP. Same issue.
3, I reverted back to 4.0.2 stock. The issue does not persist.
4, I upgraded back to 4.0.4 stock. The issue exist.
5, I flashed AOKP again and installed GetRIL from Google Play. Downgraded the RIL to 4.0.3. Issue seems to be resolved.
For about a month now, I haven't noticed data drop issue. Seems to be a valid workaround for the time being until Google fix the bug.
I'm on:
- GNex Maguro Yakuju, UK version.
- T-Mobile US
- LA area
Hope this helps.
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What if you go back to 4.0.2?
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Its to my belief that prior versions whether it be 4.0.2 or .3 does not have this issue. I think its mainly the fact that we no longer cannot change our settings under the *#*#4636#*#* to GSM auto from WCDMA which I believe is partly at fault here.
Correct me if I'm wrong. I really want to be able to change it to GSM auto since it still forces HSPA+ even in bad signal areas instead of reverting to edge.
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Correct me if I'm wrong. I really want to be able to change it to GSM auto since it still forces HSPA+ even in bad signal areas instead of reverting to edge.
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I believe it's the opposite> GSM auto will revert to EDGE sooner. WCDMA preferred will try to stick to 3G even with very low signal
Wow, a lot of people posted in that thread. I wonder if Google even reads that stuff or even cares.
I've suffered data drops since 4.0.1... tried lots of roms and kernels, but it keeps happening. GSM, Orange network, Madrid.
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I believe it's the opposite> GSM auto will revert to EDGE sooner. WCDMA preferred will try to stick to 3G even with very low signal
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Yeah that's what I meant, my sentence came out wrong since I was rapidly typing on the phone. Where I commute, I have pockets of low HSPA+ signals and currently it refuses to go to edge because of the changes on 4.0.4..
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