[Q]Battery sometime takes a nose-dive when in range of the microcell. Anyone else? - Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I was late for work because my phone died completely unexpectedly and took my alarm clock function with it.
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This isn't the first time there has been an inexplicable battery-life nose-dive causing me to miss an alarm *and* making me unreachable by anyone I might be holding up while late (Grrrr....). I'm pretty sure it's caused by the microcell, even though it wasn't connected (most phone will not connect without toggling airplane mode).
You can see where I was watching some Youtube videos and ran it down to 5% before putting it on charge around 4:15PM yesterday afternoon. After getting it charged to over 50% capacity, it then began dropping rapidly when I disconnected it, which wasn't noticed before I left home for dinner and a movie at 4:45PM.
Thanks a lot, Google, for not giving me the MUCH DEMANDED numeric battery percentage indicator.
Anyway, it hovered around 50% for several hours. I left my brother's place at around 1:00AM this morning, even though I knew I needed to get up at 06:10AM at the latest for work. I turned on the alarm when I got home around 01:30AM and got the message that the alarm was set for 4 hours and 37 minutes from now, which was more sleep than I've been getting but I wasn't going to waste any more time getting to sleep (just switched from 3rd to 1st shift). The battery indicator still showed about 50% and, as is often the case, my chargers and cables were packed up in the car for work the next day.
It had just gone over 8.5 hours without a notable drop in battery life (still over 50%; an imperceptible drop on the graphical status bar indicator), so why would I expect it to be unable to last another 4.5 hours on standby?! Getting my stuff from the car and packing it up again in the morning or setting an alarm on a redundant device takes more time and I wasn't about to deprive myself of more sleep when the phone SHOULD have been able to do this.
Well, I've had this happen before, so I at least took the precaution of turning off WiFi and Bluetooth, both of which had been on the entire day previously. Not only has it happened before, but I exchanged the phone... twice AND bought a second OEM battery with Sony Ericsson EP900 charger.
Anyway, the phone was locked in standby, as confirmed 100% when I woke up at 05:15AM to use the restroom. Didn't matter though: The battery life still tanked like the most intense of gaming sessions while sharing HSPA+ data over WiFi with a torrenting notebook! There was nothing in the list of what consumed what percentage to account for the drop. Sure enough, I woke up at 06:37, which was almost 30 minutes late and already well past the time I needed to have left home. !$#@%$#!
This only seems to happen at home, where I have an AT&T microcell. It almost never gets on the useless microcell without toggling airplane mode, which is not unique to this phone (confirmed with iPhone 3GS and two iPhone 4 handsets). It'll just sit there saying "no signal" or sit there holding on to the weakest of 3G/HSPA+ signals while standing right next to the damned thing. Also, the microcell drops calls when sitting right next to it and can't seem to ever successfully hand-off to Edge or 3G towers without also dropping the call (instantly reconnects with a full-strength signal meaning that there was plenty of surrounding signal strength outdoors). On top of that, the other party will often suddenly be unable to hear you even though the signal is perfect and you can hear them fine. When that happens, it may drop in about a minute if the other party doesn't hangup sooner when you "stop answering."
I'm unplugging the thing right away regardless. Screw AT&T. Even if it's not the cause of this particular problem, I can't believe my brother paid for this useless thing that makes everything worse. I'd just like to know if anyone else has had this issue so that I can conclusively determine if the microcell is related or not before I wear out my two batteries.

The battery life on my Xperia Play is crap as well. It'll just drain when just scrolling through the menus and even when playing simple stuff like emulators.
I can get maybe an hour of gaming.

sufy1000 said:
The battery life on my Xperia Play is crap as well. It'll just drain when just scrolling through the menus and even when playing simple stuff like emulators.
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That's not what I'm talking about AT ALL. I'm saying that it sometimes nose-dives when I am at home when sleeping/idling for seemingly no reason even when it has been fine all day and I have FURTHER reduced drainage by turning off features. My notorious microcell is at home and I feel that it's no coincidence.
The problem I am talking about can drain a full battery while you are asleep... less than 8 hours on standby/sleep.
If Android handled rebooting more elegantly and DIDN'T lose all the tabs I had open in the browser, I'd try rebooting every night to see if I still encounter the problem. I'd also be more sure that it isn't happening elsewhere if I had a numeric battery indicator when it is taken off the charger. So many SIMPLE things to improve usability.
While I'm on "simple" UI fixes, I've been having a lot of usability tweaks on my HP TouchPad with ICS. How about a way to tell which video in the freakin' LIST of videos I am currently watching WITHOUT having to pretend to want to email it to myself? Also, how about having a way to actually list the names of the videos instead of the thumbnails? An ES File Explorer is no better, with no alternate line colors and no way to enforce listing in one column, you will end up staring the same video three times before finding the first in the list you haven't watched! At least show the file I selected last time so that I don't select the same damned one again (put the same kind of selector a track ball or D-pad would leave). How about having a play button that isn't wedged between two other buttons I might not want to push and how about putting them a bit farther away from the area that will dismiss them if I touch it instead? How bout NOT putting them equally close to the progress indicator/scrubber? Gah! So. Much. FAIL.

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That's not what I'm talking about AT ALL. I'm saying that it sometimes nose-dives when I am at home when sleeping/idling for seemingly no reason even when it has been fine all day and I have FURTHER reduced drainage by turning off features. My notorious microcell is at home and I feel that it's no coincidence.
The problem I am talking about can drain a full battery while you are asleep... less than 8 hours on standby/sleep.
If Android handled rebooting more elegantly and DIDN'T lose all the tabs I had open in the browser, I'd try rebooting every night to see if I still encounter the problem. I'd also be more sure that it isn't happening elsewhere if I had a numeric battery indicator when it is taken off the charger. So many SIMPLE things to improve usability.
While I'm on "simple" UI fixes, I've been having a lot of usability tweaks on my HP TouchPad with ICS. How about a way to tell which video in the freakin' LIST of videos I am currently watching WITHOUT having to pretend to want to email it to myself? Also, how about having a way to actually list the names of the videos instead of the thumbnails? An ES File Explorer is no better, with no alternate line colors and no way to enforce listing in one column, you will end up staring the same video three times before finding the first in the list you haven't watched! At least show the file I selected last time so that I don't select the same damned one again (put the same kind of selector a track ball or D-pad would leave). How about having a play button that isn't wedged between two other buttons I might not want to push and how about putting them a bit farther away from the area that will dismiss them if I touch it instead? How bout NOT putting them equally close to the progress indicator/scrubber? Gah! So. Much. FAIL.
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AOKP has the battery percentage display you want, as well as other 3rd party apps. I'm sure there are other apps to replace the ones you're finding fault with, if you would just take the time to look into it. And new developments in custom kerlels have done a lot to address the battery drain issues in general. Finally, have you considered the possibility that your microcell unit might be defective and see about having it checked and serviced or replaced?
Oh, and about the alarm thing, invest in a clock. They sell pretty cheaply these days and it never hurts to have a backup plan!
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[Q] Help reading better battery stats?

Hi everyone,
I have been lurking the better battery stats thread to see what was killing battery life of my verizon nexus and trouble shot what everyone recommended.
uninstalled facebook, google+, turned off gps/location, signed off google talk/voice etc i didnt even know i was signed into.
ran this last night for a total of 8 hours fully charged and still noticed a 20% drop from 100-80 same as BEFORE!
I observed alarm manager and lightflow were killing my battery. I can uninstall lightflow, but what is alarm manager? I don't have my alarm clock turned on.
Attached is the text log if anyone can help. It will be greatly appreciated =(
According to your log only 0.3% was drained due to your alarm, and that seemed to be the largest drain in terms of partial wakelocks...which compared to my 10% for RILJ AND 8% FOR AudioOut_1 on 4.0.3 looks like you should be doing excellent in terms of battery life as long as your screen was off.
Could you send a screenshot of your battery screen and battery history screen?
I didn't save it sorry but when I observed it. I noticed there were 3 times during the night there was awake activity so something woke up my cdma nexus. I am thinking it is probably my Google backup services and sync.
I have been reading other users only getting 1% drain every 2 hours and I don't think its possible unless they are on probably the GSM version.
I'm quite disappointed in the idle drain so far since I'm experiencing about 2% every hour.
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While we are on the subject.....I have uploaded mine too
Is 4.4% alarm normal?
I'm still trying to troubleshoot my CDMA Galaxy Nexus in terms of what's eating its battery. The Android OS has been consistently higher than anything else (even the screen) and I usually see about 2-3 hours of awake time because of it, when I'll only use between an hour or two of screen time.
It's looking like an ICS thing more than anything else at this point. I can't really say that for sure since I'm still trying to cancel things out one by one to see any noticeable difference.
On the topic of alarms my AlarmManager only took about .3% today as my actual alarm clock took about .4%, whether what's normal or not I'm not sure anyone can say with the devices being so new and little information about that specifically.
its my understanding that alarmmanager has nothing to do with the alarm clock, but instead it is related internally to the OS that tells apps to wake up and perform some function. basically a scheduler for any app to tie into to perform an event, i.e. update the battery percentage, synch an account, etc.
i could be totally wrong on that though. and yes i think you guys with CDMA version have more trouble with idle. i still get dead flat idle drain on my gsm version...it loses 1% every 2 hours or so give or take. fall asleep with 95% and wake up with 91%!!
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Does this look pretty normal
What's this mean
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No one replies? Would like help here also
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I'm also having similar problems with my LTE Galaxy Nexus. I can't figure out what is eating up the battery, but just now I had it sitting next to me in bed, unplugged, for about an hour and when I went to pick it up just now the back was really hot.
I'm not sure if I'm reading it correctly, but it looks like NotificationService is triggering a lot more wakelocks than it should be. I don't know what AudioOut_1 is, but I can't imagine it should be that active, either, since I'm not playing any music or getting a lot of notifications with sound appearing, but maybe that's not what it's for.
Any way I can pinpoint this problem any further?
guys, I am actually in a rather helpful mood today..
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s2d4 said:
guys, I am actually in a rather helpful mood today..
http://bit.ly/zuLGu5
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If that was helpful (which it isn't), I wouldn't be here right now. That goes full circle right back to this thread, and other threads with people asking similar questions about how to read the BBS data.
Something is keeping my phone awake nonstop, and I can't pinpoint it at all. Something registering as Android OS in the stock battery stats is eating up a large chunk of my battery and is preventing any sleep (which is, in turn, preventing wifi from disabling itself).
There was about 8 hours worth of data here before I plugged it back in, but Awake was a solid blue bar all the way across, along with WiFi, indicating that something is keeping it awake 24/7.
I'm sure that NotificationService is part of the problem, since it's giving me 1500+ partial wakelocks with over an hour's worth of time, however I have no clue what exactly is triggering NotificationService.
If there's any way I can pull the log file (I don't know where it saved to) and read the data somehow, is there any way that this can tell me what app would be causing this? I've already uninstalled several apps that I thought could be problematic and disabled sync on most of them (or set them to push), and I'm left with no answers at this point.
If there's something painfully obvious that's posted from the other threads, then I apologize for not understanding, however I can't seem to find any real answers anywhere; only the same questions and some speculative answers with no real conclusion.
well, there are plenty of ppl there that will help you read it since it is the app thread. The developer is also there and provides good suggestions.
Amazing though, lmgtfy failed even this time...
"you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink"
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If that was helpful (which it isn't), I wouldn't be here right now. That goes full circle right back to this thread, and other threads with people asking similar questions about how to read the BBS data.
Something is keeping my phone awake nonstop, and I can't pinpoint it at all. Something registering as Android OS in the stock battery stats is eating up a large chunk of my battery and is preventing any sleep (which is, in turn, preventing wifi from disabling itself).
There was about 8 hours worth of data here before I plugged it back in, but Awake was a solid blue bar all the way across, along with WiFi, indicating that something is keeping it awake 24/7.
I'm sure that NotificationService is part of the problem, since it's giving me 1500+ partial wakelocks with over an hour's worth of time, however I have no clue what exactly is triggering NotificationService.
If there's any way I can pull the log file (I don't know where it saved to) and read the data somehow, is there any way that this can tell me what app would be causing this? I've already uninstalled several apps that I thought could be problematic and disabled sync on most of them (or set them to push), and I'm left with no answers at this point.
If there's something painfully obvious that's posted from the other threads, then I apologize for not understanding, however I can't seem to find any real answers anywhere; only the same questions and some speculative answers with no real conclusion.
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He's being a smartass
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I thought mine was awake to much. You have a problem.
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bendirkss said:
I thought mine was awake to much. You have a problem.
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I'm thinking I may have a more severe problem than I once thought.
I've left my GNex sitting on the charger for about an hour now, to let it run its course and maybe give me some new data to work with. It's acting as if it's been on the battery for only ten seconds (which is closer to how long it's been since I turned the screen back on, but still charging), and then only gives me a graph for 11 minutes' worth of time.
One thing I'm seeing here which is probably a major problem is that the Awake, Screen On, and Charging meters all completely stop together at the same time for a moment, and then come back on. Even though the phone had been charging for well over an hour with no interruption, it looks like the device lost track of the charging status or something.
I'm not sure if the rest of this is relevant, but about an hour ago when I last put it on to charge, the phone app stopped working. Any call I'd make would immediately say "Call ended" without attempting to dial, even though I had a signal. After struggling with it for a few minutes, the phone crashed completely and reboot. Once it booted back up, the phone app would simply close itself and go back to the homescreen any time I'd try to dial a number, and was randomly adjusting the volume of the DTMF tones. It took about five minutes for it to actually allow me to make a call again, which doesn't seem normal.
So now I'm wondering if there's something else wrong with this device, or if this is all just a part of some bigger, underlying problem.
Worth mentioning, this is the LTE version, non-rooted, running stock 4.0.2.
Xel'Naga said:
I'm thinking I may have a more severe problem than I once thought.
I've left my GNex sitting on the charger for about an hour now, to let it run its course and maybe give me some new data to work with. It's acting as if it's been on the battery for only ten seconds (which is closer to how long it's been since I turned the screen back on, but still charging), and then only gives me a graph for 11 minutes' worth of time.
One thing I'm seeing here which is probably a major problem is that the Awake, Screen On, and Charging meters all completely stop together at the same time for a moment, and then come back on. Even though the phone had been charging for well over an hour with no interruption, it looks like the device lost track of the charging status or something.
I'm not sure if the rest of this is relevant, but about an hour ago when I last put it on to charge, the phone app stopped working. Any call I'd make would immediately say "Call ended" without attempting to dial, even though I had a signal. After struggling with it for a few minutes, the phone crashed completely and reboot. Once it booted back up, the phone app would simply close itself and go back to the homescreen any time I'd try to dial a number, and was randomly adjusting the volume of the DTMF tones. It took about five minutes for it to actually allow me to make a call again, which doesn't seem normal.
So now I'm wondering if there's something else wrong with this device, or if this is all just a part of some bigger, underlying problem.
Worth mentioning, this is the LTE version, non-rooted, running stock 4.0.2.
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Sound to me like you need AOKP
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bendirkss said:
Sound to me like you need AOKP
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I've been thinking about it, but holding off because I don't want to reconfigure all my apps/widgets all over again.
What advantages are there to AOKP over other ROMs?
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I've been thinking about it, but holding off because I don't want to reconfigure all my apps/widgets all over again.
What advantages are there to AOKP over other ROMs?
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Setting back up takes a min. Tweaks, for me its smoother. And a pink unicorn upon bootup
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bendirkss said:
He's being a smartass
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No, listen to instruction to help yourself.
Follow the previous link because of the reason below.
Otherwise you are just being stupid.
s2d4 said:
well, there are plenty of ppl there that will help you read it since it is the app thread. The developer is also there and provides good suggestions.
Amazing though, lmgtfy failed even this time...
"you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink"
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Impressions after 1 day of use

So I was interested in this phone from the moment that it was announced. I've been waiting for a phone of reasonable size, but that also has high-end specs, for quite some time now, and the Razr M finally fit the bill. In the past year or so I've owned the following: 1) HTC One X (returned due to all sorts of bugs, including delays in receiving push email, not to mention that it was huge); 2) Galaxy Nexus (this was actually an AWESOME phone... just way too big for my taste. My wife owns it now.); 3) HTC One S (decent size, although still much larger than the M. Riddled with bugs though... funky wifi, delayed push notifications, etc.).I was not on Verizon prior to yesterday, but I did have various other incentives to switch from AT&T, so I waited a week to see what people's initial impressions of Razr M were before I finally pulled the trigger yesterday. Here are my first impressions after ~24 hours of use.
Build quality and form factor are awesome. This thing is just a perfect size. Roughly the same size, or even smaller, than last year's phones with 4" screens. I've been waiting over a year for a high-end phone that's not huge, and this thing does not disappointment. The little flap that has to be pulled up to put in the SIM and SD cards feels a little old school, but it seems solid enough. Overall, if you've been waiting for a smaller phone, I think you won't be disappointed.
The M is fast and smooth. I've owned a number of high end phones in the last few months and the M is as fast as and as smooth as any of them. Benchmarks prove it (read reviews; I'm not going to post any numbers here.). If you are obsessed with specs and benchmarks, the M will not disappoint. If all you care about is a smooth user experience, the M will certainly not disappoint.
Blur / Motorola android overlay. I don't really like it. It's MUCH better than old versions of blur, and some of you will probably think my complaints are nitpicky, but I just prefer the stock experience (so I use Nova Launcher). First of all, I don't like that the "4g" symbol stays in the notification bar even when connected to wifi. It's the only Android phone I've ever used that leaves the cellular network symbol ("4g" or "3g" or "H+" or whatever your network happens to have) in the notification bar when connected to wifi. It's just a waste of space, and it makes you wonder if the mobile network is somehow sucking down battery life even when it shouldn't be.
Second, I don't like the fact that the dock icons have labels beneath them. WTF? Again, I don't think I've ever seen a launcher that puts labels in the dock. I get rid of all icon labels anyways using Nova, but labels in the dock is just too much for me.
Third, I don't like the persistent google search bar. Even if removed, you just have a row of dead space at the top of the screen. All of these things led me to ditch the stock launcher and go with Nova. I think Motorola's attempt at a quick settings area (scroll all the way to the left) was a pretty good effort, but I think it should have just stuck with the tried and true quick settings in the notification pulldown. This way, you wouldn't lose it when you change launchers. Overall, this version of blur is probably the best yet, but it still doesn't compare to AOSP, nor does it compare to Nova Launcher, in my opinion.
Bloatware on this phone is bad. All sorts of garbage. Thankfully, 95% of it can be disabled. Even so, what a waste of space. I really hope the carriers are making a ton of money off of bloatware, otherwise they are just idiots for continuing to include it despite a very clear message from users that we don't want bloatware.
The screen on the phone is good. I won't go into pentile, but it doesn't bother me. The one comment I have is that compared to my HTC One S (which also has a 4.3" amoled pentile display) the whites on the M are more of a dull yellow. You only notice it if you hold the M up next to a phone that has superior whites, but if you do, you will see that whites on the M are pretty bad. No big deal to me though, but I just thought I'd mention it.
Signal strength has been a concern for me with this phone. There were some reports of weak 4g LTE signal compared to other Motorola phones on Verizon. Honestly, I haven't really been able to nail this down. I can say that both the 1x and 3g EV-DO signals on this phone seem to be just as good as they are on blackberries, iPhone, and other Motorola phones, so I don't think there's a 1x or 3g signal problem. Unfortunately I haven't been able to directly compare it to other LTE phones on Verizon. If I can, I'll report back. Suffice it to say that in the metro-DC area, I hold a steady and decently strong 4g LTE signal, so if it weren't for the reports, I would have no reason to believe there are any signal issues.
Battery life is awesome. When I picked the phone up yesterday and turned it on, it had 42% battery life. By the time it died this morning, it had been on charge for about 16 hours, and it had 3 hours 20 minutes of screen on time. That extrapolates to about 35 hours off charger and 7 hours screen on, if starting from a full battery. Given, this was mostly on wifi, but that's still pretty good. And the battery hasn't even been conditioned yet, so I suspect it might get even better. Also, this was with no battery saving mechanisms in place. I'm not using smart actions or juice defender or anything else. I've got a gmail account, gtalk, and a couple other things syncing in the background. Overall, compares favorably with every phone I've ever used so far. Hopefully the first day was representative!
The notification LED. This thing is effing awesome. I LOVE notification LEDs, and for some reason most phones have really crappy ones, if they have them at all. The Galaxy Nexus (and now the S3) have great ones. But HTC devices have horrible LEDs the size of pin heads, that are recessed into speaker grills so you can barely even see them. The M's notification LED is bright, large, and easy to see from a distance and from an angle. LOVE it. It also works with Light Flow out of the box. So far I'm using Green, Magenta, Orange, Yellow, and Red, and they all work. Haven't tested blue, pink, or purple, but no reason to think they wouldn't work, too.
Call quality. Who makes phone calls anymore these days, anyways? =P (haven't tested call quality yet. sorry).
Camera. Haven't really taken many shots, but initial impression is--as most of the reviews said--mediocre. Not terrible by any means, and sufficient for my needs (taking the occasional photo of my dog). But clearly does not hold a candle to the amazing camera on the One S or One X.
Wifi / GPS / Bluetooth. Haven't tested GPS or bluetooth yet, but the wifi antenna appears to be awesome. I get a much better signal (and speeds) on the M than I get on the One S or on my wife's Gnex. Thumbs up on wifi.
Anyways, sorry for the long post. I have too much time on my hands. But my initial impression of the phone is extremely positive. If anybody is on the fence, I'd say go for it. Fingers crossed that a few devs pick this thing up and that we at least get root. But because I love the size of this phone so much, and since I haven't really located any annoying bugs thus far, I think it's a phone I'd be content to own for a year or two even without root.
9/24 5:30pm EDT update:
Call quality is fine. Honestly, I'm not a call quality audiophile. Everything is loud and clear, just like it has been on pretty much every cell phone I've owned in the past few years. Nothing unusual to report.
GPS is really solid. It locks MUCH more quickly than either the Galaxy Nexus or the HTC One S. GPS Status also shows that it both sees and uses a few more satellites than the One S does. For instance, I was sitting near a window in my living room, and the M was using 10/19 satellites, while the One S was using 7/17. GPS gets a thumbs up.
And this is probably something I'll create a separate thread on, but I'm getting some wakelocks on the M that I do not get on the One S. I have the M and the One S setup identically. When the One S's screen is off, the phone is in deep sleep. The battery settings show that the phone is almost never awake unless the screen is on. The M, by contrast, is frequently awake for very short periods of time even when the screen is off. It does not seem to be causing much battery drain, as I'm still losing well less than 1% per hour on wifi (when the screen is off), but it is nevertheless worth noting because presumably it should not be happening. I'm in the process of trying to figure out what is causing the wakelocks, but haven't figured it out yet. I somehow suspect it has something to do with "phone idle" taking up a much higher percentage of battery consumption than I've seen on other phones. In any event, I'll start a separate thread on this when I gather a bit more info, but just something to be aware of.
Very thorough description phositadc, thanks!
"Second, I don't like the fact that the dock icons have labels beneath them."
Just a note that you can remove the labels in the dock.
Thanks for the review.
Pretty much mirrors my experience with this device. Except, I use Apex launcher rather than Nova. Also, coming from a Droid X2, this phone has a tendency to slip out of my hand sometimes (gives me a heart attack).
Not_A_Dev said:
Pretty much mirrors my experience with this device. Except, I use Apex launcher rather than Nova. Also, coming from a Droid X2, this phone has a tendency to slip out of my hand sometimes (gives me a heart attack).
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Yeah none of the reviews mention it but I agree it's worth noting that the phone is pretty slippery (due to its size, materials, or both). I was planning to go without a case but if cruzerlite or diztronic makes one I'll probably get one.
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jmctitan said:
"Second, I don't like the fact that the dock icons have labels beneath them."
Just a note that you can remove the labels in the dock.
Thanks for the review.
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Really? Without a custom launcher? I must've missed that setting; could you please tell me where it is?
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I'd have to agree with your mini-review phositadc. I just popped the sim in and started setting this phone up. I have a rooted VZW GS3 and this DE razr is much more suited to me. The samsung is going up on craigs!
phositadc said:
Really? Without a custom launcher? I must've missed that setting; could you please tell me where it is?
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You can also use custom icons with the stock launcher.
Ugh, sorry. I was mistaken. My apologies for getting your hopes up.
phositadc said:
Really? Without a custom launcher? I must've missed that setting; could you please tell me where it is?
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jmctitan said:
Ugh, sorry. I was mistaken. My apologies for getting your hopes up.
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Just replace the stock UI icons with custom icons and it solves your issue.
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How do you replace the stock icons? Thanks in advance.
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Just replace the stock UI icons with custom icons and it solves your issue.
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I downloaded desktop vizualizer to make an icon. Than removed the stock icon I wanted to replace it with. Then you just drag the new icon in its place.
Hope this helps.
Thanks.
lsxmma said:
I downloaded desktop vizualizer to make an icon. Than removed the stock icon I wanted to replace it with. Then you just drag the new icon in its place.
Hope this helps.
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muffled audio.
I got a Razor M for my wife & she's been complaining about voice quality, says it sounds very muffled. So it's going back to Amazon for replacement, we'll see if the 2nd one will be any better.
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I'll post this at the end of my OP, but just to add a little more:
Call quality is fine. Honestly, I'm not a call quality audiophile. Everything is loud and clear, just like it has been on pretty much every cell phone I've owned in the past few years. Nothing unusual to report.
GPS is really solid. It locks MUCH more quickly than either the Galaxy Nexus or the HTC One S. GPS Status also shows that it both sees and uses a few more satellites than the One S does. For instance, I was sitting near a window in my living room, and the M was using 10/19 satellites, while the One S was using 7/17. GPS gets a thumbs up.
And this is probably something I'll create a separate thread on, but I'm getting some wakelocks on the M that I do not get on the One S. I have the M and the One S setup identically. When the One S's screen is off, the phone is in deep sleep. The battery settings show that the phone is almost never awake unless the screen is on. The M, by contrast, is frequently awake for very short periods of time even when the screen is off. It does not seem to be causing much battery drain, as I'm still losing well less than 1% per hour on wifi (when the screen is off), but it is nevertheless worth noting because presumably it should not be happening. I'm in the process of trying to figure out what is causing the wakelocks, but haven't figured it out yet. I somehow suspect it has something to do with "phone idle" taking up a much higher percentage of battery consumption than I've seen on other phones. In any event, I'll start a separate thread on this when I gather a bit more info, but just something to be aware of.
Nice review!!! Love the edge to edge display. It doesn't hit the shelves in my country yet. Hope we got it with intel Atom cpu coz I heard Razr M with Atom cpu in UK.
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I use the phone a lot, about 3000 peak minutes a month. I find the phone sounds better than just about any cell phone I've used. The best part is the phone is nice and loud. My use is in NYC where the streets are noisy, and, I work on construction sites. This phone is far better with notifications, earpiece and rear speaker than any other phone I've used.
Battery life for me is a mixed bag. I can get down to 1.5%/hour so sitting on my desk I easily get a day, probably two in standby. So far, in use, it hasn't been that good. After about eight hours, the battery is down to 15%. The battery charges pretty fast though so it takes the sting out of being off charger with heavy use during the day.
Screen for me is as good as anything else I've used. I rather have the D3 screen which could be better viewed in daylight. I don't use my phone for movies, games or serious photos so the screen doesn't need to be retina.
Thanks for the info guys. The wife is CRAZY about the circle widgets and for that reason alone she's probably going get this phone but the mediocre camera could be the reason she goes with an S3. You never know what she's going to like or why. Example, her favorite rifle of mine is my FAL. Why? Because it has a carrying handle and "it's just handy." She bought her Toyota Matrix because it had a wiper on the back window and really liked that feature. lol
Thanks for a great review. I played with the phone at a Verizon store and it did not strike me as particularly snappy. However, that was probably due to the blur launcher and an abused display specimen.
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cowisland said:
Thanks for a great review. I played with the phone at a Verizon store and it did not strike me as particularly snappy. However, that was probably due to the blur launcher and an abused display specimen.
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Yeah I think that is true... the one I used at the store was mediocre as are many store devices... but the one I bought is as fast and smooth as any android device I've used.
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[Q] UK D855 model overheating?

Hi.
I've had the D855 model from 3UK since Thursday I am noticing that the phone gets very hot at the top on the back around the camera and button area. This is not even through particularly heavy use either. I've not ran games or watched any video on it yet. Whilst typing this post for example with no other apps open I can feel this area is really hot.
I've had other phones that have gotten warm after gaming etc. But this is bloody ridiculous
I have also just switched to ART & after the phone rebooted there was 200 apps to optimise & the handset was burning up.
Doesn't seem to be coming from the battery though which seems to be lower down.
Anyone else had this problem?
I haven't had this issue at all, but I haven't loaded it up with a bunch of stuff yet. It sounds like you have a runaway program of some sort. I have used my phone for very long periods of time without interruption and haven't experienced any heat that's more than my Note 3. I'd unload everything and add things one at a time, or check your memory usage and see if you have anything that's taking far more than it should.
My phone gets warm in that area but nothing that has concerned me yet, but it's usually when I have had the screen on for a lengthy period of time.
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brightness set at ?
I've not really loaded it up with apps. Just google stuff, bbci player, Chromecast (not working) Im gonna try removing stuff & see if it makes any diference .Screen brightness is set to 40% auto brightness ticked.
Is there a recommended app to monitor rogue apps or wakelocks?
I've also just had it charging for about 2 hours on the official plug & its red hot again.
jusumgeezer said:
I've not really loaded it up with apps. Just google stuff, bbci player, Chromecast (not working) Im gonna try removing stuff & see if it makes any diference .Screen brightness is set to 40% auto brightness ticked.
Is there a recommended app to monitor rogue apps or wakelocks?
I've also just had it charging for about 2 hours on the official plug & its red hot again.
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BetterBatteryStats is good to monitor wakelocks ect..... debloating you're phone should help a bit too, I made a list of things i've done away with if it helps you
Find it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2800293
sure there will be more than that that can be removed, hopefully others will test and contribute soon It should help you get a good start tho. Good Luck
Same issue but with US T-Mobile version
jusumgeezer said:
Hi.
I've had the D855 model from 3UK since Thursday I am noticing that the phone gets very hot at the top on the back around the camera and button area. This is not even through particularly heavy use either. I've not ran games or watched any video on it yet. Whilst typing this post for example with no other apps open I can feel this area is really hot.
I've had other phones that have gotten warm after gaming etc. But this is bloody ridiculous
I have also just switched to ART & after the phone rebooted there was 200 apps to optimise & the handset was burning up.
Doesn't seem to be coming from the battery though which seems to be lower down.
Anyone else had this problem?
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Hello, I am having exactly the same issues you described. It happens just out of the blue. The phone starts getting superhot until the battery is drained. If I try to charge it, it does not get charged. It has happened to me randomly.
Did you find the cause for your troubles?
jusumgeezer said:
Hi.
I've had the D855 model from 3UK since Thursday I am noticing that the phone gets very hot at the top on the back around the camera and button area. This is not even through particularly heavy use either. I've not ran games or watched any video on it yet. Whilst typing this post for example with no other apps open I can feel this area is really hot.
I've had other phones that have gotten warm after gaming etc. But this is bloody ridiculous
I have also just switched to ART & after the phone rebooted there was 200 apps to optimise & the handset was burning up.
Doesn't seem to be coming from the battery though which seems to be lower down.
Anyone else had this problem?
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I've had this exact issue too ... and for those wondering just how hot it gets, it's in the rough area of "wtf" degrees. I've lost 85% of my battery in 3 hours. It normally happens when I'm not charging and on WiFi, but what I've noticed is that the 3G/4G/LTE (whatever radio connection I have at the time) starts turning on. Now if it was an App misbehaving, I doubt an App would have the ability to bypass WiFi and use the data connection.
I'm about to do a full wipe and see if that fixes it.
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... and as I was writing this post, I noticed the damn thing rebooting itself. LG makes great hardware, but their software just sucks. Why won't they unlock the damn bootloaders so I can put CMMod on it or something that doesn't suck?
Overheating
im having the same issue its getting hot for no reason did you fix this issue
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did you comeup with any fix cause i'm sick and tired of this issue
I've had this twice both caused by different ota updates. A full wipe and install fixed for me. Now I'm in 10m, no over heating and better life is much much better
To further my last comment, if you've hardly got anything installed, then do a quick backup and then install something like 10m (which world perfectly for me) and do a full flash wiping everything.
If I didn't do that, then it got so hot then I couldn't keep the phone in my pocket and had to turn it off !! The heat comes from very close to the volume buttons, and it worried me how hot it was getting.
Mine is burning up in use or on charge, i just checked temps with cpu z and temps were at 81c, 79c, 75,c
81c, etc etcvery warm indeed, yes i have a lot of apps installed and i did have a few running at the time but Jeezz this thing is like a portable radiator, i have a case on it with the quick circle cover but it's the slim model that replaces the rear part of the original case so not packed inside extra plastics, ive never had such a hot phone.
I have tried a few things to try and tackle the problems but with no joy, i'm also constantly running out of space on the internal memory despite moving all the movable apps to Ex SD card, my phone is routed and running fulmics 5.1 rom
Same here, using D855 from Hong Kong, I have already done a factory reset/wipe.
Unmounting the SD card does help a bit in my case, still, it does not solve the problem.
As long as I turn on the screen and make some touches, it will start overheating for no reason.
Same for me. When I watch 3d sbs 180 videos, after around 25 mins the phone has given a warning and then shortly afterwards shut itself down.
I replaced the circle case with a more common style back cover that I bought from aliexpress and put a new battery into it, but the problem remains.
10M is an earlier android built from 2014, right? Will the problem be solved if downgrading? I wouldn´t mind really.
Thanks
jazzl said:
Same for me. When I watch 3d sbs 180 videos, after around 25 mins the phone has given a warning and then shortly afterwards shut itself down.
I replaced the circle case with a more common style back cover that I bought from aliexpress and put a new battery into it, but the problem remains.
10M is an earlier android built from 2014, right? Will the problem be solved if downgrading? I wouldn´t mind really.
Thanks
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So, I´ve been trying to downgrade using LGUP. The new version of this keeps telling me that my phone is unknown, and old version gives an error after 4%.
On some of the pages I found about how to do it, it´s saying that I need to change the LGE port to 41 in Windows. When doing that, my windows (10) freezes and I have to reset the computer.
Any ideas about what I may be doing wrong or suggestions to other methods?
Thanks
jazzl said:
So, I´ve been trying to downgrade using LGUP. The new version of this keeps telling me that my phone is unknown, and old version gives an error after 4%.
On some of the pages I found about how to do it, it´s saying that I need to change the LGE port to 41 in Windows. When doing that, my windows (10) freezes and I have to reset the computer.
Any ideas about what I may be doing wrong or suggestions to other methods?
Thanks
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Allright, I´ve done it!
I used the old 2014 LGupgrader, but instead of running it via a network mounted drive, as I´d done it up till this point, I did it directly from C:/Temp. This was the key to success for me. I had it stuck for a couple of mins at 9 %, but it suddenly continued. This may have to do with the available internal mem. Some ppl say there should be 2 GB free, but I had only 1.51 GB free.
Temp is now 12 C less than before at similar operations.
The excessive heat has been reported as an issue across all models of the G3. The best solution is to use a thermal pad on the SoC. That helps spread the heat to the metal chassis, reducing your temps from 10-15 degrees Celcius. Get any 0.5mm thick thermal pad, cut it down to 14x14mm, clean both the SoC and the surface on the chassis with alcohol, apply pad and be sure to tighten screws as much as possible without stripping. I've been using this mod on both of my G3's for almost 2 years, and it does not void your warranty. Good luck!
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The excessive heat has been reported as an issue across all models of the G3. The best solution is to use a thermal pad on the SoC. That helps spread the heat to the metal chassis, reducing your temps from 10-15 degrees Celcius. Get any 0.5mm thick thermal pad, cut it down to 14x14mm, clean both the SoC and the surface on the chassis with alcohol, apply pad and be sure to tighten screws as much as possible without stripping. I've been using this mod on both of my G3's for almost 2 years, and it does not void your warranty. Good luck!
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Do you have a link to such a thermal pad and maybe a link to a vid showing how it´s done?
I was a bit too quick saying that my problems are now solved. I still get much nicer temperature, but VR videos skip frames alot, where they´d go smooth before. I´m wondering if Lollipop is throttled so it won´t get too hot, and does not have the power to play the vids, where Marshmallow pushes the hardware to the max, and then it gets hot.
Would anyone disagree with this?
Also, when did the overheating get introduced? If it´s not there in 10m, maybe there´s a build closer to Marshmallow that will let the hardware work a bit more, without heating too much up.
Ok, I found a pretty decent solution:
http://www.androidauthority.com/lg-g3-problems-517832/
The part about amending the High Temperature Property OFF setting seemed to do the trick. Now VR vids play more smoothly and though it - obviously - gets hotter, it won´t get as hot as with Marshmallow.
With Marshmallow I´d get a warning at 57 C, and then it´d shot down a few mins later. Now, after about the same amount of time using the phone with a VR vid, it shows 49 C, which is acceptable.
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Do you have a link to such a thermal pad and maybe a link to a vid showing how it´s done?
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Use this video for disassembly.
And this is an example of a thermal pad you can use.
The heat issue is a hardware design flaw. The issue can be minimized with software, but the only way to truly solve it is a thermal pad or some other way to allow the heat to escape faster. It's easy to do, just take your time and use the right tools.
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Use this video for disassembly.
And this is an example of a thermal pad you can use.
The heat issue is a hardware design flaw. The issue can be minimized with software, but the only way to truly solve it is a thermal pad or some other way to allow the heat to escape faster. It's easy to do, just take your time and use the right tools.
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Allright, thanks. Maybe a dumb q, but how do I recognize the SoC?

Battery Reporting/Phone Dying Suddenly

Update 2: I've had requests for links for the parts I used. I purchased the battery, a back cover, and all the additional accessories they suggested for removal.
Battery:
http://www.witrigs.com/oem-battery-for-sony-xperia-z1-compact
Back cover (this comes in different colors, but the link is for the black one):
http://www.witrigs.com/custom-back-cover-for-sony-xperia-z1-compact-black
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Updating the OP. Thus far the only reliable way that myself and others have fixed their batteries has been by replacing them or having the phone repaired by Sony. Fixing it yourself involves purchasing a replacement from witrigs (or another parts supplier).
Flashing stock roms, custom roms (aosp or cm based), or factory firmware may temporarily give the illusion of being fixed. Battery repair apps don't do anything either (you can test this by 'fixing it', clearing app data and then 'fixing it' again).
I'm back to KitKat levels of battery life, using stock 5.0.2. Here's a recent screenshot for you.
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So for the past few weeks my phone has really been acting up. I'll try and make this an organized question/post.
Here's the symptoms:
-Phone drops from 30ish % down to 1%, then powers off and wont turn back on due to low battery.
-Phone occasionally reports fully charged at different levels (such as 80% or 50%), upon reboot, it is listed as 100%.
-Some days I can watch it drop 1% every few seconds once it reaches 35%, literally like it's counting down.
-Other days it just works fine, I can use it to 5% and then charge with no problems.
Phone information:
-Z1 Compact
-Problem persists between ROM flashes and android versions. Have experienced issues on stock 4.4.4, stock 5.0.1, AOSP 4.4.4 and AOSP 5.1.
Really, any sort of help or places to start would be greatly appreciated. I don't even know what to try anymore and I'd really like to avoid trying to replace it (warranty expired already).
Attached a screenshot illustrating it happening. I unplugged my phone last night after charging it to full. Made it to work, put it in airplane mode, turned wifi on. Updated some apps and restarted it. Rebooted to about 10%. Charging again now.
HI There,
i got the same problem with my z1 compact. its all start when upgrade to lolipop...
some say our battery are dying...or got problem. are they ?
downgrade to kitkat, wipe everthing, battery calibration also still the same problem appear...
I've tried the same thing. Wiped data system etc and nothing helped.
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Same problem here. 4.4.4 stock rooted. It started about two weeks ago. I had done nothing except some play store upgrades. Haven't found a solution and I don't even know how to diagnose the problem. Various battery calibrations and/or deleting that battery data file haven't helped. Did a factory reset from recovery (almost accidental swipe while a bit drunk, gah...) - nothing. Battery level drop and shutdown occurs in random situations. Sometimes while taking a picture, sometimes with data on, sometimes off, gps on/off or whatever. Sometimes from 70% to 0, sometimes from 50%. Sometimes I can restart without charging after waiting a while and then it stays of for some time.
Yesterday I just did a reboot myself and when it came back on, the battery had dropped from 70 to 20% and then it stayed like that for some hours. Then I let it run to 0, charged without turning on to 100%. Then, when I turned the phone on, the battery level dropped to about 80% really fast and after that I got 20+ hours until it died again at 55% battery. I do see some small temperature spikes on Gsam battery monitor graph during those sudden drops, but never above 35 degrees Celsius and I don't think overheating is the issue here.
Again, I hadn't flashed any roms, updated android or messing around with the system or system settings before it started. Just normal everyday use, some websurfing, listening to music, taking occasional photos, reading blog feeds, taking notes.
Now I don't know what to do and I would greatly appreciate any help.
Haven't tried software repair yet, but what software could be still left broken?
Should I try unrooting via flashtool (does it lose all traces of root?) and taking it to warranty repair?
Right now the phone is practically unusable.
Hey, did u checked the Service menu Batterie test?
*#*#7378423#*#*
*#*#SERVICE#*#*
What does the test say?
I did check that yesterday and it was good.
And at the moment batt health status is "good, no need to replace it".
(Actual batt uAh: 2407000. Battery gauge at 74%.)
Yesterday after recharging and watching the battery plummet to 83%... It stayed there for some time despite data and GPS being on, using camera and an app. Should have dropped by a couple of % at least during that time.
13+ hours uptime now, very little use at night and at work.
That's what I'm afraid of. If the service test is good and at a glance everything seems to be fine then I won't get any help from warranty.
when test mine also in good condition. but the problem still happen. it kind makes me to conclude possible a battery hardware problem. need to change it, but it aint that cheap...
I've also checked my battery in the service menu. It reports good/healthy with the actual uAh being 2407000. I plan on wiping everything on the phone later today (system, all data, caches) and seeing if that helps at all, but I'm not very hopeful. Like you guys this pretty much just started happening for no discernible reason. Phone doesn't appear to be overheating either. Could the SD card being messing with it somehow? It seems implausible, but at this point I'm willing to try anything.
SOLVED (for me at least)
So I bit the bullet and wiped everything except for my SD card about 2 hours after my last post. Installed the most recent KK version of DstrikerZ1s ROM with the Doomlord v22 kernel. Ran it hard all day till now. Still at 50% and I've rebooted to check and make sure it's accurate multiple times. I'll report back if it happens again, but the performance thus far seems much more consistent than what I had before.
crimson12 said:
So I bit the bullet and wiped everything except for my SD card about 2 hours after my last post. Installed the most recent KK version of DstrikerZ1s ROM with the Doomlord v22 kernel. Ran it hard all day till now. Still at 50% and I've rebooted to check and make sure it's accurate multiple times. I'll report back if it happens again, but the performance thus far seems much more consistent than what I had before.
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So need to format sdcard?
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Yeah, I backed up both my internal storage and SD card and then formatted both.
wow, i have the same problem and i don't want to go back to KK. doees anyone have any solution that keeps lolli on?
I've been having the same problem since February. First it turned off at around 14% (when the warning pops up), but it's already been turning off at 20+ and finally 30-something percent, which wasn't bearable. No amount of wiping or up/downgrading would help so I bit the bullet and got a battery exchange (not directly from Sony who wanted to charge ~160€). Problem is fixed for the time being.
As much as I love this phone, it'll be the last one I get without a user-replacable battery.
Unfortunately my "fix" didn't work forever. I'm back to the same problem. Might as well suffer through it on lollipop. Where did you get the battery replaced?
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Unfortunately my "fix" didn't work forever. I'm back to the same problem. Might as well suffer through it on lollipop. Where did you get the battery replaced?
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I'm beginning to wonder our battery going to die... Maybe need to change, from my place, Sony center way to expensive need 3rd party battery maybe.. Or other than service center...
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albuah said:
I'm beginning to wonder our battery going to die... Maybe need to change, from my place, Sony center way to expensive need 3rd party battery maybe.. Or other than service center...
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i bought my replacement battery from witrigs and installed it myself. battery life has been good since then.
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i bought my replacement battery from witrigs and installed it myself. battery life has been good since then.
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So it was relatively easy to do yourself? I'm relatively nervous to try it. Shipping is killer to the states too :/
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So it was relatively easy to do yourself? I'm relatively nervous to try it. Shipping is killer to the states too :/
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Yeah. It's pretty straight forward. I used my wife's hair dryer as a heat gun and followed witrigs guide. I was surprised to see a 30$ tax on my items though. But thats due to customs so i had ni choice.
need to unscrew 1 skrew only right?
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exactly the same problem only since Lollipop update.
it'll just shut down about 30% battery now, no going into battery saving mode or anything, i'll just be messaging and get "shutting down". Also I've had 53% battery, rebooted and then have 80%ish, its completely messed it all up.
I've factory reset and cycled the battery (run down, charge full etc) more than once. I'm suprised peoples batteries actually need replacing, how can a software update damage the battery?
I remember with a previous rooted samsung phone you could delete a battery data file with root explorer or something, is there a similar non-root way to fix this problem?

Do you regret buying the S6 Edge+?

I bought this phone about a week ago coming from an iPhone 6 (I jump often between android/iOS) and I really regret it at the moment. First of all, battery life is HORRIBLE! I'm waking up with a full charge every morning, and after only waking the phone up a few times over 8 hours, I get back home with about 65% battery life when the phone hasn't even been stressed at all!
Touchscreen not functioning if you tap directly on one of the edges, so if you have a button or a link or something else to click on and this click-button is out on the edge it often wont register the tap, but if you however slide your finger out to the edge, the sensor will pick it up all the way.
I know this probably is so that you don't accidentally touch the screen while holding the phone, but I paid 8000 SEK (852 EUR) for this phone, I'm expecting things like this to not downgrade the touchscreen-functionality.
I've had random freezes after waking up the device to lock screen, making me wait about a minute before it "releases" or until i restart the phone.
I could go on with a few more things but I'm not here to bore you, and please don't get me wrong. It's a beast phone with a beautiful screen and design, which is why I bought it. It's just that the issues in this phone is to compare with android phones a few years ago.
Please tell me what you think if you read all this
Dont regret it in the slightest
100% agree with you mate. I have the same battery life issues and find the screen to be it responsive, especially when using Swiftkey or fleksy.
I am considering switching to the 6P or even just the 6.
I have to admit though that the camera is outstanding!
The sleeping freeze bug is known and seems to be resolved in the upcoming OTA update that is now making its way to the various countries.. For the rest I can only say that you either have a defective device (swap it for a new one) or a rogue app (do a hard reset en reinstall until you find the culprit app). Oh, and go through your settings and fine-tune battery usage by switching off functions that are not key to your way of using the phone...
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I have no issues what so ever. I easily get 6-7h SoT regularly and I don't even do anything to save battery - I just disabled some apps using the stock app manager.
Idle drain could be a bit better, I lose about 5-7% over night (8-10 hours), but you can charge it back in like 10 mins, so I don't really mind.
While the Edge+ is the sexiest phone I have ever had, I do regret getting it.
--Battery life is below average
--Fingerprint scanner is hit or miss. TouchID is a billion times better
--Not much app/utilities to take advantage of the edges
--Not much ROM development
--Poor quality (my charging port died first month)
--The glare on the edges
--Super slippery without cases
--Not much available cases
--Not much available quality tempered glass screen protector
--No Samsung Pay if Knox is tripped/rooted
--Fast Charging/Quick Charger 2.0 sometimes work and don't
--Daily lags/stutters
--Speaker not very loud
--Proximity sensor hit or miss
--To use the edge cool notification, phone needs to be faced down. Who puts their phone face down? WTF Samsung
--Wireless charging is slow, and make the phone really hot.
--Camera: (1) in low light, it sucks (2) have hard time focus on moving objects
--Screen not as touch sensitive
--Screen not as bright out door
--Phone depreciates in value so fast.
I say it all the time it's not the phone it's the apps. The programmers are not optimizing the apps correctly. I also blame user error. Also the lack of knowledge about how to properly turn off unnecessary syncing. I have none of the problems said here except slow charge and that is due to the wireless charger not being the fast charge version.
I've had none of the bugs/problems some people describe I came from the iPhone 6 plus and I don't regret it at all! Only initial disappointment was the battery life. But a couple of weeks ago I remembered that I had got a 1 years McAffee subscription when I bought the phone so I though since its free I'll download and try it. Since I engaged the battery optimizer setting in the app I've been getting stellar battery life. On for 8 to 9 hours SOT some days. And that's with location, sync etc still on. As far as I can see its controlling of how often the sync can occur seems to be making the difference. So I would recommend this or a similar app. I don't know if using McAfee free app without the subscription will have battery optimizer available though.
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I've had the phone a week. A few days into it, my feeling was the same - highly frustrated.
I had to re-initialise twice to get rid of the reboot issues.
The keyboard is affected by the curved screen.
I have the Note4 and the first few days I was constantly reaching for it.
It's changed completely. The phone has settled down. Using the keyboard is still hit or miss however;
The screen is beautiful
The phone is beautiful - after a while, every other phone feels cheap.
The battery life is actually - very good! I charge once a day, and then again if I'm up after 10pm.
It's fast, boy.
The phone is built for swiping - so swishy! Very fluid.
It charges quick.
I love the night clock!
The screen, the screen, the screen.
It's a beautiful, sexy phone. Very. It's how it makes me feel while I'm using it.
And the camera. Enough said.
Fingerprint works for me 99% without any problems really. Never have the hit or miss in that.
Battery lasts good after the new AOJ5 update.
Didn't have the freeze of lag other people had before the update and it became even better after it.
I use SwiftKey and don't have any problems with keys on the edge or swiping at the edge.
For being a phone the speaker is OK but you don't buy a phone for the speaker sound.
Camera is great and ok in low light.
Charges really fast with wireless. Just make sure it says fast charging in notifications.
One bad thing is that there isn't really any apps that support the edge feature.
Laying the phone with display down is outright stupid and notification should work with it turned up.
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I don't regret. it's the best phone I ever had.
Batterly life is correct (48h) and I've not done the AOJ5 update yet!
Pictures quality is amating.
Screen is really great, compared face to face with the Iphone 6+ of a friend, the S6 screen is better.
The only bug I have so far is the freeze, sometimes (once a week), when unlocking with finger prints.
Excellent phone With 6-7sot ..excellent caméra. ..fast. .my only regret is the infrared missing
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My only regret is the brightness bug... Everything else i love this phone
Excellent phone but with root access and knowledge about simple modding. So keep in mind I'm not taking about stock.
-Battery life is even better than Z3. On wifi i can easily go above 7h SOT (my record is 8h) even with gaming. Fast charging is great also (wireless too!)
-Screen is beautiful, infinite blacks super resolution and great visibility outdoors
-Speed and multitasking best I've ever seen
-excellent build quality and premium feel (and look)
-very responsive touchscreen, maybe too responsive as it can easily react even to metal objects
-very loud speaker (not stereo but at least i can hear it, on Sony stereo speakers were very quiet and sometimes harsh on max volume)
-one of the best cameras, the best auto mode, pro mode with lots of features
-signal on both wifi and gsm is strong and stable
-not getting warm when being used
-great development (not quantity but quality is the key!)
Cons:
-might be uncomfortable to hold and use, accidental touches might be registered when using one handed
-glass build so you should be careful
-heart rate monitor/led glass is prone to scratches (not gorilla glass for sure)
-don't really like the audio port placement
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Love it. No issues here. Battery life is great. The display and camera are amazing. No lag or wake issues either.
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No reget, I love this phone so far
- Love the beautiful the design, unique, it amazing
- Good build quality
- Best camera, Pro mode is a plus
- Best screen, new experience on curved screen
- Battery was very extremely good, 1-2% overnight (if no LED notification, disabled apps, Lux, Greenify, Disabled services)
- Have no issues about heating, fast charging, wireless charging
(doing Fast charging when battery low it does warm up a little - 40C, when it reach about 60% it become more and more cooler)
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I have no issues what so ever. I easily get 6-7h SoT regularly and I don't even do anything to save battery - I just disabled some apps using the stock app manager.
Idle drain could be a bit better, I lose about 5-7% over night (8-10 hours), but you can charge it back in like 10 mins, so I don't really mind.
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richierich118 said:
I say it all the time it's not the phone it's the apps. The programmers are not optimizing the apps correctly. I also blame user error. Also the lack of knowledge about how to properly turn off unnecessary syncing. I have none of the problems said here except slow charge and that is due to the wireless charger not being the fast charge version.
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As mentioned before, for most of us, 852 EUR for a phone is pretty expensive, and this is only for the 32GB model. I'm not accepting the fact that I paid that much for a phone that wasn't going to be at least 95% perfect out of the box. We're living in 2015, we SHOULD'NT HAVE THE NEED to turn off sync, turn off gps, etc. in order to get our phones last a day, and we definitely shouldn't have the need to remove things or to root the phone and install customizations in order to make it work properly.
It should JUST WORK as Apple-fans say, and I really can't blame them as the iPhone 6 I had "just worked" with it's teeny-weeny 1800mAh battery lasting me until afternoon the next day with standard usage of the phone.
This is purely a Samsung/S6 Edge+ fault and not android itself as my work-phone which is a Z3 can last a full workday of GPS:ing and spotifying and I'll still come home with about 60-70% battery. And if I leave it turned on on a Friday with 50-60% battery, I will have about 30-35% battery on the Monday (of course in stand-by the whole weekend but still).
Now I know I talk much about the battery life in this post. But it's just one of the many issues that I can compare with other phones and with the Z3 I also have.
Marmelka said:
... We're living in 2015, we SHOULD'NT HAVE THE NEED to turn off sync, turn off gps, etc. in order to get our phones last a day, and we definitely shouldn't have the need to remove things or to root the phone and install customizations in order to make it work properly...
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Battery life seems to be so different from a person to another.
I have wifi always on, sync always on, screen brightness on automatic, ... well all is on except:
Bluetooth is off, NFC is off, I use the "Manage app" under the RAM tool to close most of the app automatically and I turn-off the smart network option under Wifi.
I have WIfi at home and at work, it probably helps too.
See screenshot attached, ok it's a scenario where I have not played game a lot during these days.

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