Any way to enable NFC while phone is in standby? - HTC One X

I find NFC fascinating technology, and have lots of tags to play with. But the biggest barrier to putting them to good use is that NFC doesn't work while the phone is in standby. For example, I could put a tag beside my bed and put the phone into silent mode automatically. But if I have to switch on, unlock the phone and touch the tag, I might as well have just dont the task normally. But if I could leave the phone in standby and all I do is wave at the tag...that would be amazing.
Can it be done?

alicechong89 said:
The NFC function isnt turned on until you get out of the lock screen I think.
I've read in some other forums/threads that this is not possible mainly because of security reasons.
Example: If there was a stranger next to you with their NFC Tag really close to your phone, you wouldn't want your phone to detect the tag automatically without you knowing.
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Thanks. The tag has to be REALLY close to trigger anything. But I think that should be a user choice rather than a forced one. Disappointing...maybe Android will change in the future to allow this.

It was introduced in ICS. With gingerbread it wasn't necessary to unlock your phone to read tags - I used to use a tag to toggle my pin lock screen & WiFi/data connection, which was quite nice.
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I understand Google's concerns about security, but this is a poor solution. Having to turn on and unlock the screen completely removes one of the advantages of NFC technology - speed.

Evangelion01 said:
I understand Google's concerns about security, but this is a poor solution. Having to turn on and unlock the screen completely removes one of the advantages of NFC technology - speed.
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I agree with this.
Just started using NFC this past week and kind of sucks you have to unlock the phone to use it.
I wish there would be an option that we can choose this setting.

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[Q] NFC while screen is off?

So is this possible? according to the Xperia commericals showing their NFC-badges you just swipe the phone over it. With the GNex you have to turn the screen on unfortunatly, is there a way to fix that?
EDIT: Mod can move this to Q & A, it's getting late over here.
From what I've read, this is a security feature in ICS, as NFC can be used for payments, etc.
I can understand why they have changed it, though IMO it should be an editable setting.
eddie_gordo said:
From what I've read, this is a security feature in ICS, as NFC can be used for payments, etc.
I can understand why they have changed it, though IMO it should be an editable setting.
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Ah, ofcourse now i see why but yeah it should be editable, though NFC is not that widely used yet i'd like to turn that security feature of until i connect a creditcard to my phone.
Pliind said:
So is this possible? according to the Xperia commericals showing their NFC-badges you just swipe the phone over it. With the GNex you have to turn the screen on unfortunatly, is there a way to fix that?
EDIT: Mod can move this to Q & A, it's getting late over here.
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Every demo in the xperia video shows the screen on as far as I can tell, and unlocked.
The short answer though is no. ICS requires the device to be on and unlocked before the NFC service is started and the polling loop starts.
If someone wants to try to modify the underlying NFC service in a custom rom it's possible. I wouldn't recommend having it on all the time, but a behavior similar to Gingerbread (unlock was not necessary) would probably be desirable for most users.
krohnjw said:
Every demo in the xperia video shows the screen on as far as I can tell, and unlocked.
The short answer though is no. ICS requires the device to be on and unlocked before the NFC service is started and the polling loop starts.
If someone wants to try to modify the underlying NFC service in a custom rom it's possible. I wouldn't recommend having it on all the time, but a behavior similar to Gingerbread (unlock was not necessary) would probably be desirable for most users.
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Well now that you said it and i checked the video again..your right.
Think I got the idea from when he stepped out of the car and just flashed the badge.
Pliind said:
Well now that you said it and i checked the video again..your right.
Think I got the idea from when he stepped out of the car and just flashed the badge.
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To be fair they do make it seem like that's how it would work. Who would turn their phone on, unlock it and then turn it upside down BEFORE they get out of their car just to scan an NFC tag once they got out.
I don't see that being a reality though as the rest of the demos clearly show the device on and what appears to be unlocked. Given this is how the NFC service works within ICS, I'd suspect this will be the behavior as well.

NFC tags... Can someone explain the use?

I know what NFC is, as in I know they are some kind of tag, I assume sticker like, and the phone can grab information from it.
But what is the uses? I have read in passing about how some people have them all over, and use them all the time.
I am curious as to how I can use them as an advantage, and what kind of things they can do.
Thanks in advance.
You could buy a generic $10 car dock and stick a NFC tag on it that will launch "Car Home" (or maybe "Navigation" on the maguro) once the phone is docked. obviously you would have to dock and wake the phone for the tag to be read, but I actually think that is ideal
You can have a tag that launches a Tasker task that turns your phone's screen off. So, if you have a spot on your desk where you commonly set your phone, you could place the tag there and it will turn your screen off when you lay your phone down (and save your power button)
Limited only by your imagination, really.
You can buy tags, stick them anywhere, and program them to do anything you want when you touch the phone to the tag lol.
Turn on/off WiFi when you leave the house, turn off your ringer at your desk, enable BT and car mode in a car dock, etc. etc. etc....
Look at this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqD_olNY8Js
its a Blackberry.. but it works the same way as with Android.. just different app.. same sticker
I find it to be useless tho in a way.. i can't wait to use NFC to unlock doors and replace ID n security check points.. Google wallet is the way of the future without these stupid bugs and hacks
OP, for future reference... use the search feature before posting something like this.
I will not do this, but you will get flamed for posting a question that already has a thread.
Anyways, just check out this thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1359057
Personally, I have tags set up at my bedside table, door at home, in my car and at work to launch different "profiles" depending on my current location.
Try the app NFC ReTag https://market.android.com/details?i...=search_result
It doesnt change anything on the tag. It recognizes a unique tag and execute actions you set on your device. That way, you can reuse old hotel keycards or even antitheft stickers on clothes you bought.
I get that you can programme actions. But for location profiles aren't you restricted by having to remember to tap the tag?
I use Setting Profiles and rely on it all happening automatically based on time and place from cell towers and wifi. What's the advantage of nfc?
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Also, is it possible for my phone to replace tags like door fobs etc or is it just a reader?
Yep, I wished there was more to it, but that's the extent of it. The target needs to be able to process and have battery power to open up real options.
!!11oneone said:
I get that you can programme actions. But for location profiles aren't you restricted by having to remember to tap the tag?
I use Setting Profiles and rely on it all happening automatically based on time and place from cell towers and wifi. What's the advantage of nfc?
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Also, is it possible for my phone to replace tags like door fobs etc or is it just a reader?
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NFC doesn't require me to leave GPS on. Nor does it require me to change something if I don't want to. If I don't want to use that profile, I merely do not touch the tag. No need to turn off programs or anything else.
There is more than one way to skin a cat. NFC isn't revolutionary, it is just different.
Where can I get NFC tags? and do I need an app to make them do what I want?
What kind of range do they have?
Jeffrey000 said:
Where can I get NFC tags? and do I need an app to make them do what I want?
What kind of range do they have?
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Just search Google
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=NFC+tags+
Yes you need a app to use it with
And NFC is short range
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How short range is short range though?
Could I put one on the under side of my counter top? Would it work at all or would it give me a 6" radius? ?
For the tag to work do I need an app open? or just have the phone not sleeping? like just have the lock screen up?
short range in this case is an inch or less.
NFC only works when phone is awake with screen on.

nfc capabilities

Just seen some apps for editing some nfc tags. why on earth tho would you want to edit it so that when a tag is scanned it opens the browser etc? why? if you want to open the browser why not just open the browser? maybe i missed something?
i have a key fob, is it possible to read the key and copy the information to the phone so i can use the phone to open the door?
You are missing the big picture. These NFC capabilities are only limited to your imagination, so first you need that.
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chrisman99 said:
no you didn't help
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Can't tell if troll or just stupid.
Anyway, the capabilities of NFC are just starting, such as checking in with Foursquare or making a purchase with Google Wallet, or even using it to Android Beam. Think of NFC as "just developing", because it is.
chrisman99 said:
no you didn't help
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Maybe you cant be helped then.
You could always try the threads about NFC with ideas of ways to use it.
right ok im aware of beam and wallet and that but thats not my question. maybe the title wasnt exactly accurate, like obviously theres all these possibilties blah blah. but im asking about the current nfc apps available.
chrisman99 said:
right ok im aware of beam and wallet and that but thats not my question. maybe the title wasnt exactly accurate, like obviously theres all these possibilties blah blah. but im asking about the current nfc apps available.
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This isn't the first thread on the subject, but I'll humor you.
I have an NFC sticker inside my car. When I scan it upon entering the vehicle, my phone automatically disables wifi, sets the ringtone, notification, and media volumes to 100%, and launches my music player. When I scan the sticker again on the way out, it turns wifi back on and quiets my volumes.
Another tag that I use all the time is a sticker affixed to the outside of my leather slip-on case. It is tied to a Tasker task which locks the display when the phone is inserted into the pouch in case I forget to do so.
Sure, you could do that all manually, but it gets to be kind of a pain. It's a lot easier to just turn on the phone and scan a tag than to change several settings at once.
chrisman99 said:
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No need to be a ****...
Obviously you wouldn't want to use an NFC tag to open your browser, but it has a lot of potential. Of course you have the normal Beam and Wallet applications, but there are also other cool things like using NFC tags to silence the phone at work, put it in Navigation mode in your car dock, or turning up the ringer when you leave the house. NFC is a standard, and its up to you (and phone/app makers) to come up with cool things to do with it.
Look at what Nokia is doing, things like using NFC to pair Bluetooth devices.
chrisman99 said:
right ok im aware of beam and wallet and that but thats not my question. maybe the title wasnt exactly accurate, like obviously theres all these possibilties blah blah. but im asking about the current nfc apps available.
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The possibilities are endless. They are mainly used for complex routine tasks. Take the following examples and compare to doing all of them manually:
Seeing up directions in a car dock. You can automatically set the phone to enable GPS, fire up nav and pair bluetooth with your car stereo.
Going to sleep. Put the phone on your nightstand and it automatically silents, sets your alarm and switches to the clock screen.
Going to work. Place the phone on your desk and it silences all notifications and can enable an autoreply to calls or texts saying you're at work.
Those are just three examples of where it could come in handy. If you don't have any routine tasks done in the same place then maybe NFC tags aren't worth it to you.
Which app lets you copy an NFC id tag, and then transmit that tag from the phone to another NFC receiver?

Smartwatch 3 - NFC uses

Hi,
Just wondering if anybody has tested the NFC functionality? I am currently using the Smartband - and I use the NFC on the Core with Xposed Framework to unlock my phone (Xperia Z1). Aside from dealing with the annoyance of having Lifeblog constantly launching upon unlocking - I find it quite useful without having to enter a PIN every time.
Not many details on the location of the NFC antennas on the SW3. Wondering if I can truly replace the Smartband with the SW3.
There is smart unlock feature in lollipop so it will not ask for pin if smart watch connected, I believe you can achieve similar with xposed or 3rd party apps on previous versions of android
NFC works
If you got NFC on your phone turned on the phone recognizes the watch by bumping and opens the android wear app.
Mochs said:
If you got NFC on your phone turned on the phone recognizes the watch by bumping and opens the android wear app.
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If the watch is off, nfc contact also turns it on.
I was testing SW3 NFC with newly purchased Sony SBH-60 headphones. No luck - nothing activates. The headphones worked fine once manually paired, but in my opinion NFC does not work, most likely is not supported by Android Wear yet. Which would be another big disappointment - no LifeLog app on the watch, no sleep tracking with use of Watch, no Walkman app, now no NFC support.
BartManX said:
I was testing SW3 NFC with newly purchased Sony SBH-60 headphones. No luck - nothing activates. The headphones worked fine once manually paired, but in my opinion NFC does not work, most likely is not supported by Android Wear yet. Which would be another big disappointment - no LifeLog app on the watch, no sleep tracking with use of Watch, no Walkman app, now no NFC support.
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hey I'm about to buy those headphones, but I can't find any reviews about it, I don't know if you could tell me if they are any good, and if I can pair them with my nexus 5.
Thanks in advance.
SW
saulw said:
hey I'm about to buy those headphones, but I can't find any reviews about it, I don't know if you could tell me if they are any good, and if I can pair them with my nexus 5.
SW
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So far, so good. Everything works as advertised and nice sound, overall yet I'm not an audiophile to comment on a lot. I think you should not worry about pairing with Nexus 5, but I can't tell for sure, no N5 around to test
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Mochs said:
If you got NFC on your phone turned on the phone recognizes the watch by bumping and opens the android wear app.
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Yes, this is the only feature that works. Not really useful.
Thank you BartManx, I'm also not an audiophile so I guess it'll be good to me too.
Until Android Wear starts supporting NFC, it's hard to test the full capabilities of NFC on the SW3. As others have reported, right now it just opens the Android Wear app on the phone.
Galaxy Note 4
I can't sync with Galaxy note 4. Any solution ?
According to the owners manual the NFC antennae is in the centre of the screen. Which makes sense so it can be used while on your wrist.
dingbatt said:
According to the owners manual the NFC antennae is in the centre of the screen. Which makes sense so it can be used while on your wrist.
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Thanks I guess reading owner manuals is a good thing
If you don't have Lollipop, but you have a rooted phone, NFC and Bluetooth can be awesome.
I hate using a pass code. I like waking up my phone and going right to what I want to do. However, if I ever leave my phone unattended, it would be nice to know that someone can't just get into it and start messing with things. So, I have a rooted LG G2 running Xposed. There is a module called: "No Lock Home"
In a nutshell, after you enter you Bluetooth address of the watch into the module, if you are wearing your watch and you walk away from your phone far enough to break the NFC/Bluetooth connection, the phone goes into lock mode (meaning you need a pass code or pattern or whatever you set up); once you come back into range of the phone, the pass code/pattern lock goes away and you're free from having to take the extra 3 seconds to "unlock" your phone.
Technology is the bees knees!!
There is an app called Skiplock which I believe is made by someone on XDA which does the same thing but without the need for root. You can use BT or Wifi for keeping the phone unlocked.
I'm not sure if my sw3 doesn't have (dont work maybe?) nfc or my nexus 5's nfc isn't working. Anybody could show me what happen when the sw3 is close to a smartphone?
EDIT: found it https://youtu.be/4YStUt_RPKs?t=5m7s
So or my nexus 5 nfc is fkd up or my sw3's nfc is fkd up lol
EDIT2: Ok solved. The replacement part I got for my nexus 5 was broken. I got use the nfc+wireless recharging combo from my old (original) back cover.
gab1972 said:
If you don't have Lollipop, but you have a rooted phone, NFC and Bluetooth can be awesome.
I hate using a pass code. I like waking up my phone and going right to what I want to do. However, if I ever leave my phone unattended, it would be nice to know that someone can't just get into it and start messing with things. So, I have a rooted LG G2 running Xposed. There is a module called: "No Lock Home"
In a nutshell, after you enter you Bluetooth address of the watch into the module, if you are wearing your watch and you walk away from your phone far enough to break the NFC/Bluetooth connection, the phone goes into lock mode (meaning you need a pass code or pattern or whatever you set up); once you come back into range of the phone, the pass code/pattern lock goes away and you're free from having to take the extra 3 seconds to "unlock" your phone.
Technology is the bees knees!!
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THANK YOU so much for this. This will help me - I hate using the knock code on my rooted LG G2 when I'm driving. Bob-on.
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Question P6 bypass lock screen when trusted with smart lock?

Unless I'm missing the point of smart lock. Pressing the unlock button and/or using your fingerprint takes the same amount of time and effort.
Am I missing the obvious? Smartlock seems useless
Hand76 said:
Unless I'm missing the point of smart lock. Pressing the unlock button and/or using your fingerprint takes the same amount of time and effort.
Am I missing the obvious? Smartlock seems useless
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When I'm home, I just push the button with my right thumb and swipe up with my left index finger, and I'm in.
it's instantaneous
Easy Peasy
Hand76 said:
Unless I'm missing the point of smart lock. Pressing the unlock button and/or using your fingerprint takes the same amount of time and effort.
Am I missing the obvious? Smartlock seems useless
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I used for some time smartlock (because Pixel was paired with a smartband), so if it's connected, it was set to unlock in this case without password or fingerprint.
Otherwise, if we use fingerprint it take half second to unlock, so it's almost the same, but each user can decide what is more comfortable for him.
biTToe said:
When I'm home, I just push the button with my right thumb and swipe up with my left index finger, and I'm in.
it's instantaneous
Easy Peasy
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But you could use a fingerprint unlock and do the exact same thing in the exact same amount of time
Hand76 said:
But you could use a fingerprint unlock and do the exact same thing in the exact same amount of time
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This is also pointless Because, we should not complain if now the fingerprint has reached a good level of speed, while, when the Pixel 6 was released many people complained because of slowness or reliability.
sronweb said:
This is also pointless Because, we should not complain if now the fingerprint has reached a good level of speed, while, when the Pixel 6 was released many people complained because of slowness or reliability.
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So getting back to my main point, you agree now that smart lock is useless?
I just want to make sure I'm not missing something here. I don't see the point in a lock screen if the phone is......Wait for if..... Already unlocked
Hand76 said:
So getting back to my main point, you agree now that smart lock is useless?
I just want to make sure I'm not missing something here. I don't see the point in a lock screen if the phone is......Wait for if..... Already unlocked
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You may need to use gloves or other conditions where you cannot unlock the phone, then smart-lock might be useful. But as you say, in normal condition takes almost the same time. Then what is the point? You ask to remove a function that might be useful to others? Just don't use it if you don't like.
Hand76 said:
But you could use a fingerprint unlock and do the exact same thing in the exact same amount of time
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Except I don't use fingerprint unlock. I swipe a pattern.
So faster for me in that instance
sronweb said:
You may need to use gloves or other conditions where you cannot unlock the phone, then smart-lock might be useful. But as you say, in normal condition takes almost the same time. Then what is the point? You ask to remove a function that might be useful to others? Just don't use it if you don't like.
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Never said to remove anything but a lock screen on an unlocked phone.
That's not a reasonable request?
Smartlock doesn't seem to work all the time, my Pixel 5 often demands my fingerprint
V0latyle said:
Smartlock doesn't seem to work all the time, my Pixel 5 often demands my fingerprint
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Anyway through root to get rid of the lock screen when the device is in a safe unlocked state?
Hand76 said:
Anyway through root to get rid of the lock screen when the device is in a safe unlocked state?
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I'm sure there is, I have no idea how
On a side note, Google changing the screen to wake with a single tap instead of double tap is equally annoying and leads to the screen accidentally turning on all the damn time. Including in your pocket.
This only started on Android 12. Talk about fixing something that wasn't broken
Iv never used smart lock myself
Hand76 said:
Anyway through root to get rid of the lock screen when the device is in a safe unlocked state?
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I'm sure there is, I have no idea how
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One of these methods may work gents
How can I (en-/dis-)able the lockscreen via Automate/Tasker/etc?
The usual things (integrated solutions or the many ideas I found online) do not work. I don't want to permanently disable it but I am absolutely annoyed to constantly have to unlock it while i'm just at home. I want Automate to have it off while...
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73sydney said:
One of these methods may work gents
How can I (en-/dis-)able the lockscreen via Automate/Tasker/etc?
The usual things (integrated solutions or the many ideas I found online) do not work. I don't want to permanently disable it but I am absolutely annoyed to constantly have to unlock it while i'm just at home. I want Automate to have it off while...
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Ty so much for this.. But from his description
"You phone will never be locked"
I see how this is keeping the device unlocked (for a certain period of time) but how does the device auto lock when leaving a trusted site?
For me I have several trustes sites already with profiles made in Tasker.
My default (outside/not at home) would be where I would want my phone locked

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