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Wondering if anyone has opinions on whether or not it's worth going to CM7 in its current state over CM6. Is it still really buggy even from the last update for Evo. Is it in condition to be used for 24/7 use like CM6 is?
not if you are needing or are able to use 4G. If you are in an area like me where there is no 4G yet I would say go for it. I love the latest build 7.0.2.1 for everyday with the timat kernel and I am really liking playin with the new virusrom gengersense. Virusrom almost has this rom to where it will be my everyday user.
Any large benefit from not using the stock kernel?
I have been using CM7 (current version 7.0.2.1) since the stable 7.0.0 was released. The recent version has fixed the GPS, but I cannot comment on the 4G as I don't have service in my area. I am using Savaged Zen, and really enjoy it. Gives you the abilty to overclock, better battery life.
Is there anything MORE stable than the stock kernel for CM7? Let me put it that way. Or something better on a ridiculous level in terms of real world use from a different level (don't care about battery life as long as it gets me through the day like CM6 does.)
They don't do much to the stock kernel. Customs will give you better battery life.. ussualy.
A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on Android OS. We now have CyanogenMod.
c1o5ry1991 said:
Is there anything MORE stable than the stock kernel for CM7? Let me put it that way. Or something better on a ridiculous level in terms of real world use from a different level (don't care about battery life as long as it gets me through the day like CM6 does.)
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Tiamat kernel (3.3.8) has been great for me. As a whole CM7 stable has been just that, stable. I haven't flashed any of the updates since it dropped because nothing major has really been added / changed. Ever since doing the Sense fix I haven't had any GPS issues either.
I've been thinking about getting back on a CM 6.1.2 ROM just for kicks. CM7 battery just doesn't seem to touch what it was, no matter what I do. I know it's a 'step back' but I might set one up and make a NAND of it (deleted my old one) and see if I'm just making the difference out to be that much greater.
I'm not not happy with CM7, but I am wanting to get back on CM6 with the original Sculpted theme. I miss a lot of the little extras that have yet to be merged / added into CM7.
I had wakeup issues with the stock kernel - buttons light up, but screen remained black.
Bumping min cpu to 384 fixed this 99%, but I didn't want the cpu to be at that speed at all times.
Flashed tiamat 3.3.8, worked ok, but had bizarre reboots when using gps (never had stability issues with cm7 prior). After the reboot my 4g didn't work. Restored a sense rom that had wimax.img backed up, confirmed 4g working, then restored a stock cm7021 backup and installed tiamat 3.3.7. So far so good, and no black screen issues, even at stock speed (245 mhz). Also, tiamat seems to bump the incall audio a step loader than the included cm7 kernel. Ymmv.
You really need to test for yourself. Your device is likely to function better with one kernel than another.
Currently running CM 7 RC-2 seems to work good for the most part. 3G speeds seem to be the same as Fresh and Mikfroyo but man 4G speeds are slow. It's fast on the phone but tethered is slower....about 1.5-2 mbps slower than when tethered running sense. Also something new I have noticed is when I force the phone into roaming I normally only get 1X on verizon but I am now able to get 3G roaming....is this something new???
If you guys know what V6 supercharger is and picked #9 setting
http://forums.androidcentral.com/ep...22369-acs-how-run-v6-supercharger-script.html
is your phone faster or slower than before? it seemed a bit slower but after a couple minutes im not sure if theres a difference
Well since I was referenced in that write up... the settings listed were for OG Epic if you are a heavy multitask user. The ET4G has a much larger memory and v6 has been updated many times since then. When I used it on my Epic, it benchmarked basically the same but tasks/apps remained open until you killed them. Also, before the Epic got the official GB update, we had issues with RAM leaks causing a soft reboot and that basically stopped those from happening. I haven't even tried the updated version (or any version) on my ET4G because it handles everything I throw at it with no lag
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Well since I was referenced in that write up... the settings listed were for OG Epic if you are a heavy multitask user. The ET4G has a much larger memory and v6 has been updated many times since then. When I used it on my Epic, it benchmarked basically the same but tasks/apps remained open until you killed them. Also, before the Epic got the official GB update, we had issues with RAM leaks causing a soft reboot and that basically stopped those from happening. I haven't even tried the updated version (or any version) on my ET4G because it handles everything I throw at it with no lag
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LOL wow i didn't even notice it was for epic 4g not the touch and yea i figured if I cant see a difference why try to improve
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Never saw a 1000hp setting? only options 1 - 17??
Its for any Android.
See sig for link to download latest versions
It may be for any Android, but while I couldn't function without it on my OG Epic, I see no need for it on the Touch at this point. The phone's available RAM is far better and the speed of the device is at a level that's well beyond what Supercharger V6 was able to do to the OG Epic. I don't see any reason to use it, at least for now. But boy was it invaluable before.
Good thing that I've thrown in lots of other goodies then
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Good thing that I've thrown in lots of other goodies then
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Other goodies huh? Now you have me curious. Flashaholism is a sickness....lol
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I read in Development forums that the new Nitrous rom is
an updated stock rom that is much faster. I have flashed
many roms and kernels in the past and never saw a speed
difference (unless overclocked). Well I tried Nitrous and again
noticed no difference in quadrant or nenamark2 scores (I game).
I flashed the hotspot hack and it did not work, so I flashed
a supposed faster anthrax kernel. Nothing got faster, but now
the hotspot wifi works. So Nitrous is a good looking rom, but
I don't get how everyone is saying it is faster. The only bugs
I found is that set cup or cpu master, as well as sd speed increase
tweeks do NOT stick after reboot. Anyone have any ideas on that?
And can people post their quadrant and nenamark2 scores to
show if it is really faster? Thanks
hotstocks said:
I read in Development forums that the new Nitrous rom is
an updated stock rom that is much faster. I have flashed
many roms and kernels in the past and never saw a speed
difference (unless overclocked). Well I tried Nitrous and again
noticed no difference in quadrant or nenamark2 scores (I game).
I flashed the hotspot hack and it did not work, so I flashed
a supposed faster anthrax kernel. Nothing got faster, but now
the hotspot wifi works. So Nitrous is a good looking rom, but
I don't get how everyone is saying it is faster. The only bugs
I found is that set cup or cpu master, as well as sd speed increase
tweeks do NOT stick after reboot. Anyone have any ideas on that?
And can people post their quadrant and nenamark2 scores to
show if it is really faster? Thanks
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Quadrant scores dont really tell you anything and can easily be manipulated, linpack scores are a slightly better judge for performance but still not truly accurate and easily manipulated, your best judge for true performance increase is to use it for several days preferably a week and see how it runs for you
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That's kind of my point. I have tried many roms/kernals and no matter
what speed claims they have, they are all the same (sense based).
I would think that 3d games like Shadowgun, Nova, or Dungeon Hunter
would seem faster/smoother with so called faster roms and kerrnels
like Nitrous/Anthrax, but they are exactly the same speed as Sprint
Stock HTC Evo 4g? All these roms floating around are visually different,
but the speed is exactly the same, so why do devs claim their rom
is faster?
I watched a guy on youtube flashed 119 roms/kernals and said
SavageZen/MUII or something is twice as fast (quadrant), but
the guy lost the ability to mount the phones SD card and 4g!!!
So, my question is:
For the Sprint HTC Evo 4g rooted,
what is THE fastest sense rom/kernel?
Or are they really all the same speed?
Mainly interested in faster gaming, and I do have chainfire installed.
Thanks
Damn Hotstocks at this point I don't think there is anything different anybody can tell you that would really meet your demand... Perhaps maybe you can seek the opinion of notorious XDA Guru "Captain Throwback" and see what he thinks on this matter, this dude forever has a good tip on just about any relevant issue.
Hmm, it would just seem that people around here would
know what is the fastest kernel/rom for full Sprint HTC evo 4g
sense compatibility. Unless I am mistaken, all the sense roms
are the same speed and people are lying when they say they
are faster (Nitrous). I can see how Cyanogen or a senseless rom
could be faster, but all the sense roms I have tried were no faster
than Sprint HTC stock. Maybe a Nitrous user can chime in here.
Hey,
I am not sure what he did to the software of the phone but it appears to me that he didn't tweak the system speed at all but if you noticed transitions are faster and he changed a lot of the animation settings to no dealy so they move faster and gives the Rom the appearance it is faster but the Rom itself has no physical speed changes. That's my two cents anyways
I hope I helped if I did please hit the thanks button
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You do realize the evo is almost 2 yrs old and is severely limited in capabilities by its hardware right? No one can answer your question because every evo is different and every user is different what makes my evo fast may make your evo crawl and vice versa, you also have to wait several days after flashing for the rom and kernel to settle in before your really see any performance difference, you cant flash a rom for an hour or 2 and then judge it they HAVE to settle
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You do realize the evo is almost 2 yrs old and is severely limited in capabilities by its hardware right? No one can answer your question because every evo is different and every user is different what makes my evo fast may make your evo crawl and vice versa, you also have to wait several days after flashing for the rom and kernel to settle in before your really see any performance difference, you cant flash a rom for an hour or 2 and then judge it they HAVE to settle
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This is pretty much what it is hotstocks, just keep in mind these are just a few factors that may vary results from user to user.
Thanks for the info. I know the hardware is not dual core or the newest.
And I do let the rom settle in for 10 minutes. I don't see any reason why
it would need to settle in for a week, but will use it for a week. And the
statement that my evo will be a different speed than yours makes no sense.
If we both have a Sprint HTC Evo 4g running the same rom and kernel at the
stock 1ghz, they will be both the exact same speed and should quadrant the same.
Obviously if I have a bunch of programs running in the background, that changes, but I am talking about after a fresh clean flash.
hotstocks said:
Thanks for the info. I know the hardware is not dual core or the newest.
And I do let the rom settle in for 10 minutes. I don't see any reason why
it would need to settle in for a week, but will use it for a week. And the
statement that my evo will be a different speed than yours makes no sense.
If we both have a Sprint HTC Evo 4g running the same rom and kernel at the
stock 1ghz, they will be both the exact same speed and should quadrant the same.
Obviously if I have a bunch of programs running in the background, that changes, but I am talking about after a fresh clean flash.
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U obviously need to read some more, there are 3 different hardware versions of the evo 002-004 and all have slightly differnt hardware thus they all act differentlu with different software, it takes much longer than 10 minutes for hardware to adjustbto new software which it why it needs to settle in for several days
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Thanks for the info. My hardware says 0004
Does that mean I have the newest/fastest hardware?
Newest doesnt mean fastest so no it all depends on what they had when it was made they have different logic boards different cameras different screens different brands of memory but all have the same processor just different combos all run differently
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Thanks. I know my phone isn't the latest and greatest.
But I am holding out for the LTE Sprint phones coming this
summer. It would be silly to waste my 2 year upgrade on
a Galaxy SII with wimax, when I will need an LTE phone this
summer. Plus it will probably be a quad core 1920x1080 monster
also. Right now I am just trying to make my phone as fast as
possible. It is overclocked to 1.13ghz, have sd speed increase at 2048.
I thought there would be a SIMPLE answer to which sense rom and
kernel were definately the fastest, but I guess no one can answer
that simple question. I have been working on computers for 30 years,
I can install windows XP, windows vista, and windows 7 on three identical computers, I can also flash old and new bioses to the motherboards,
and I can DEFINATELY then benchmark the same machines with different bios (rom) and kernel (windows version), and tell you what is the fastest. I fail to
see why this is so difficult to do with a smartphone like the evo 4g. I would think that the rom/kernel with the highest quadrant (graphics) score and highest Nenamark2 score would be the fastest rom/kernel. Games or 3d graphics is where the phone runs into a bottleneck.
not all evo's are created equal bud, that's just how it is
Every computer, phone, tablet, game console, router, etc. is going to have significant performance variances at an individual device level. Even ones that are identically configured, running the same OS, software, firmware, drivers, etc. A 20+ year career as a network engineer showed me that, and nothing has changed in that regard with more modern electronics.
I'm running the Nitrous ROM as my daily driver so I'm rather familiar with it, and I really don't see how you can claim that anyone lied to you. The ROM has simply been tweaked to speed up the UI, transitions, and a few other things. Read the first section of the OP for that thread -- it clearly states what has been improved. Nowhere in there does it claim overclocking or anything that would improve phone gaming. The improvements related to data/Wi-Fi have quite a few other factors at play, including the base level variances between devices that I mentioned in the first paragraph. I haven't really noticed an improvement in Wi-Fi, but have noticed an improvement in 3G.
All that said, the ROM is visibly faster and "prettier" (which usually don't come together in one package) on my EVO 4G than any other Sense ROM I've put on it. You need to read/understand what the dev did and not let your expectations get so out of whack. If you want better game performance, you're simply going to have to get a better phone. For its time, the EVO 4G was an absolute BEAST. Now? There are quite a few better phones.
Thanks, and I agree. The evo can still play almost any game on the market (not gta III) with acceptable performance. Nitrous is a nice looking rom, my 3g is same speed. I am using it as my daily, but it is misleading that it is claiming to be faster than stock, it is the same. I also seem to have a problem with sd speed not sticking between reboots, even though I have checked it. Same with CPU master free (set cpu) settings not sticking thru reboot. I also think the live wallpaper wasn't sticking thru reboot, but that was on 1.2.7, haven't tried it on 1.3.1., just wastes battery.
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Nitrous is a nice looking rom, my 3g is same speed. I am using it as my daily, but it is misleading that it is claiming to be faster than stock, it is the same.
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We'll just have to disagree on that one, because overall it's a much faster ROM for me. However, I use my phone as just a smartphone (multimedia, light browsing, email, texting, etc.) where the Nitrous tweaks would be more obvious and beneficial, and then use my Acer tablet far more for gaming.
I think you should just pick a Sense or AOSP ROM that you like and is well supported, and then focus your efforts on various kernels and trying out their options/settings to try to get the most out of your "old" hardware while you wait to get a new phone.
Thanks, I actually did that and it is how I found Nitrous.
I think it is the best sense rom right now, but it has a few
little bugs. I can't post yet in the dev forum for Nitrous,
but the live wallpapers definately do not stick with reboot,
goes back to Nitrous default wallpaper. Other than that
I am pretty happy with Nitrous and Anthrax kernel (for oc
and wireless tether). Real stable. I was just saying that
when the dev says it is much speedier, and his lock screen
says "Nitrous Oxide System", I expect to see a noticable
speed increase. If you put Nitrous Oxide into a Corvette or
Mustang, it doesn't just get get 1% faster, it gets 25% faster!
With Nitrous you REALLY should notice the speed difference.
Yo Hotstocks I'll give you credit for sticking to what you feel son LOL I'm shock you still debating in this thread however if it's ok with you let me give you a little tip since I noticed you might be a little excited to comment on the Dev once you get more than 10 post... Be very gentle with what you say over there because these people spend a lot of time and effort behind what they do for somebody to come and talk smack about their work... Chances are they'll rip you a new one if you cross the line... Just saying son don't take it to the heart either.
Im debating between these two roms they are almost identical. one is just ics and the other gb. does anyone have any suggestions? which has better battery life, signal, smoothness, any input is valid here guys.
Sounds like you should go for the gb build. Gb is incredible battery, signal, performance. While ics is not bad it is noticeably worse. Advantages of pics are being able to use launchers which resemble aosp ics launcher (trebuchet, apex, Nova) and the general swagginess that ics has
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I was running E4GT 2 1.4 ICS for a day and I was getting random resets even after a full wipe. The resets were quick and most of the time I didnt even know my phone reset. I actually prefer the E4GT 3.0 even though it was GB, it seems a lot faster and more stable than the ICS build, esp with the modems being updated lightning fast for both builds, but nothing is really too much different appearance-wise between the two. Both have hotspot hacks, which is amazing and both a tweaked for speed and battery life.
soccerboarder43 said:
Im debating between these two roms they are almost identical. one is just ics and the other gb. does anyone have any suggestions? which has better battery life, signal, smoothness, any input is valid here guys.
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if you wanna be cool and be like the rest of use you can try out AOKP build 32 (ICS ROM) while the battery life isnt as good as GB its still awesome.
Or you could try a GB rom like blazer 4.0 with incredible battery life and use nova launcher which resembles ics launcher.
I would recommend using a Gingerbread based rom to begin with.
They are far more stable overall.
Additionally, the ICS based roms are not something to play with if you're just starting out. There are lots of posts here in the Q&A about ICS bricked phones.
This is a must read:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525495
Yea im definately not just starting out and have followed the ops very carefully im very greatful i havent bricked this phone yet seeing as how i have over carelessness with my past 3 phones lol (evo shift, optimus s, moment) but im loving this phone emmensely and with the processor this thing has you rarely ever see a lag. and beat the crap outta battery life i had with past phones. im on E4GT 3.0 right now no complaints whatsoever. i miss ics tho lol thanks for all the input guys
Upon following the suggestions of someone commenting in the forum, I flashed 2.8.1 and have not had any major problems. I tried the 3.0 and had issues. I forgot what they were but 2.8.1 with fd19 modem and no frills CPU control set to 200 1200 cfq set at boot, it had been very stable for me.
Right after you flash it and boot into system, you probably will not be able to choose which launcher initially. Its a simple fix. Hit the power button to turn off the screen, wait a few seconds, then hit power again to waffle up screen. You might have to do this a few times before it let's you select anything. I download stock gingerbread launcher from modaco and use that.
what I am looking for is a rom that will make my connection speed faster my download speed sucks I am also looking for a rom that will boat my signal when using my hotspot. I am running swiperrats 4.0.4 miui rom I like it but its still not fast enough any suggestions would be helpful thank you guys.. if this is in the wrong section I'm sorry and point me in the right direction..
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My favorite Rom was cm7 when I had my evo. Seemed to make sprints network suck a little less. Different roms won't make much of a difference since sprints poor network is to blame for the awful speeds
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Well if you're on ICS, they have bugs on the evo [obviously]. if you want a real fast rom with great signal, ect, you'd probably need to go back to gingerbread, in which case, use CM7. For ICS, I preferred lithium's build of MIUI and jmztaylor's CM9 rom.
If you like sense like myself, The best for performance and battery life hands down is Nitrous 1.55,,,IMHO And I dont think there will be an arguement there from anyone who has ran it. ,,,Later,,,
I agree if you like sense roms try out nitrous 1.55. I have been using Nitrous since the early releases, and it just keeps getting better. I haven't had any fc's in a long time, and it doesn't freeze up like a lot of other sense roms.
I highly recommend Vaelpak GB AOSP. Battery life is fantastic. I keep trying others, but restore to Vaelpak before I turn in. Everyone has their own preferences though. Good luck. No matter what rom I flash, I always use GoLauncher. Very customizable
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