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ive read that sony are thinking about making more high end andoird devices Playstation certified? Could they?
From what I gather, the "Playstation Certified" certification is to be expanded, though the lack of PSOne titles being released suggests they may be slowing up.
In the UK, there is a consensus that the launch of the Xperia Play was a bit of a flop which seems to be why it's been possible to get it relatively easily for less than £200 here which might lend to idea that there won't be a 'sequel'.
The last i heard on the subject, SE thought the Play still had plenty of mileage left in it so they were looking to support that for longer instead of doing Play 2 already
Verizon Wireless in the states is already trying to get rid of it's stock, $49.99 with 2 year contract, came out at $200 with a contract. They are discontinuing it due to lack of sales. Problem was on TV they were advertising the Droid 3, On Hulu they were doing the same advertisement for the Xperia Play.
My only complaint about the Xperia is lack of CDMA development and it's poor amount of on board memory.
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From what I gather, the "Playstation Certified" certification is to be expanded, though the lack of PSOne titles being released suggests they may be slowing up.
In the UK, there is a consensus that the launch of the Xperia Play was a bit of a flop which seems to be why it's been possible to get it relatively easily for less than £200 here which might lend to idea that there won't be a 'sequel'.
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well, i had another theory, yes, the play didn't sell well in the UK/elsewhere, but i think its being heavily discounted/discontinued now because a play 2 is coming and now that there is no sony ericsson, sony will probably want to integrate a PSP into a phone rather then whatever the play was supposed to be
also, look at most android phones, most of them have sequels, even the unsuccessful ones
the possibilities of a true PSP phone are to great for sony to just abandon the idea now, especially after SE's half assed attempt
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Verizon Wireless in the states is already trying to get rid of it's stock, $49.99 with 2 year contract, came out at $200 with a contract. They are discontinuing it due to lack of sales. Problem was on TV they were advertising the Droid 3, On Hulu they were doing the same advertisement for the Xperia Play.
My only complaint about the Xperia is lack of CDMA development and it's poor amount of on board memory.
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When I got mine like 3 months ago the guy at the verizon store was shocked I asked for it, had 1 in stock, and almost asked me if I was on crack for even wanting it.
Meanwhile its the best 50 bucks I ever spent.
Well remember the recent news that Sony has purchased the other half of Sony Ericsson. Sony Ericsson said they don't plan on launching an Xperia Play 2 soon but now that Sony is 100% in charge, I expect something big.
I mean the Xperia Play was outdated on launch. The only thing it had going for it was the gamepad (and dual speakers )
I want a dual core or quad core Xperia Play and I am expecting one to come out next year.
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When I got mine like 3 months ago the guy at the verizon store was shocked I asked for it, had 1 in stock, and almost asked me if I was on crack for even wanting it.
Meanwhile its the best 50 bucks I ever spent.
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Every time I call verizon the tech on the phone always asks me If I like my xperia play, Ive had maybe 3 months now and I woulda thought they just stop asking about it, maybe there checking Im not dis-pleased , nonetheless I paid 72$ and cant complain.. playing final fantasy 7 on my phone is priceless
Yeah i heard about sony buying out Sony Ericsson, would like it if they did release a sequel or something to sort themselves out
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Well remember the recent news that Sony has purchased the other half of Sony Ericsson. Sony Ericsson said they don't plan on launching an Xperia Play 2 soon but now that Sony is 100% in charge, I expect something big.
I mean the Xperia Play was outdated on launch. The only thing it had going for it was the gamepad (and dual speakers )
I want a dual core or quad core Xperia Play and I am expecting one to come out next year.
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You really need to stop jumping on the dual core wagon! Neither android nor any applications are optimised for dual core CPU's, meaning even with the extra power there is no performance increase
I always wanted a portable emu. Xplay will be used by me for many years to come. The fact that i can make a phone call, sms, go on the internet, and take pic/video with it is just gravy. Imho this is the best device i have ever owned.
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You really need to stop jumping on the dual core wagon! Neither android nor any applications are optimised for dual core CPU's, meaning even with the extra power there is no performance increase
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QFT I went from an Atrix (1.3ghz OC) to the XP and I can tell you as far as speed there is no difference. I would like to have a little more ram in the XP but it's not a big deal. When I get rid of the XP I hope there's a XP2 or something because I'll go through serious withdraws.
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I agree, dual ccore on a phone is currently a marketing scam. What good is a second core if it cant be used?
Maybe a few years from now there will be a dual core capable os but right now there isnt.
On top of that when there is all current dual core phones will be long discontinued
If you got a phone becuase its dual core just call yourself a sucker
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I agree, dual ccore on a phone is currently a marketing scam. What good is a second core if it cant be used?
Maybe a few years from now there will be a dual core capable os but right now there isnt.
On top of that when there is all current dual core phones will be long discontinued
If you got a phone becuase its dual core just call yourself a sucker
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I understand that but most new developers are only releasing their games on what they call "Powerful dual core devices"
The Xperia Play is the only device that could fully use dual core because it is a real gaming phone. I'm really surprised that it wasn't more powerful. I meant at least put in that 1.4ghz processor in the ARC S. The whole Xperia Line should have launched with that processor.
Sonys ps certification announcement meant they will start licensing PS certified to other manufacturers so that they can expand their market. I'm thinking they want to eventually certify it to all android phones. It doesn't necessarily need a playpad for sony to certify it.
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Agreed. However if we are talking about a possible late 2012 release for the 'play 2' then can we assume there will have been more development put into the dual/quad core apps/os etc.? Especially with devices like the transformer prime coming soon, the quad cores are sure to implemented in phones next year.
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Agreed. However if we are talking about a possible late 2012 release for the 'play 2' then can we assume there will have been more development put into the dual/quad core apps/os etc.? Especially with devices like the transformer prime coming soon, the quad cores are sure to implemented in phones next year.
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Understood and agreed, but my comment was aimed at the fact that some people think the play is underpowered for the current generation of mobile, but the fact is although on paper the play is nothing special. The way android is atm and thanks to a couple of tricks by sony like dual channel ram, the play gamewise can hold it's own with any of the current generation of mobile, including dual core phones like the atrix
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I agree, dual ccore on a phone is currently a marketing scam. What good is a second core if it cant be used?
Maybe a few years from now there will be a dual core capable os but right now there isnt.
On top of that when there is all current dual core phones will be long discontinued
If you got a phone becuase its dual core just call yourself a sucker
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Afaik ICS will be optimised for dual core phones, Thats pretty obvious as the Galaxy Nexus (The official google developer phone for ICS) will be a dual core device
If they make a new device, Sony needs to implement actual analog sticks, not these touch pads. It would truly utilize the potential of a gaming phone and be commercially acceptable to everyone who doesn't want to deal with touch pads, especially the FPS loving crowd. The ONLY other thing I really wish the Xplay had was physical analog sticks (something like the PSP, or what the Vita will have). Sony needs to learn how to make the sticks pop out when the phone slides up. THAT would be wicked righteous amirite???
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Understood and agreed, but my comment was aimed at the fact that some people think the play is underpowered for the current generation of mobile, but the fact is although on paper the play is nothing special. The way android is atm and thanks to a couple of tricks by sony like dual channel ram, the play gamewise can hold it's own with any of the current generation of mobile, including dual core phones like the atrix
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Afaik ICS will be optimised for dual core phones, Thats pretty obvious as the Galaxy Nexus (The official google developer phone for ICS) will be a dual core device
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ICS may be more optimized for dual core phones, unfortunately apps still won't be so I don't think everyone is going to see the improvement they're expecting. Heck there really aren't even many multi core apps for computers besides some games and graphic design programs. Just my .02
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Pretty much true yes. With ICS dual-core support will be supported as far as I know. But then it's also up to the develeper to add support for it in the app I belive?
I really notice no difference in speed on things when using my Play or my work buddies Samsung Galaxy SII. I need no dual-core that sucks more battery.
I plan to buy xperia play possibly this week or next month.
But im afraid there will be a new xperia play coming soon with higher specs.
Or there will be no xperia play 2?
I doubt it though because there already a quad core phones in the market
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i would like a quad core processor tegra 3 clocked maybe at 2ghz , at least 1 gb of dual channel ram, a 720p display, better backlight and 12 mega pixel camera
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I'm thinking xperia play 2 is 6 months to 1 year away. If you can wait that long for a new phone, then I would. Otherwise you'll get major phone envy when a new one comes out and you aren't due for an upgrade for another year past that.
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i would like a quad core processor tegra 3 clocked maybe at 2ghz , at least 1 gb of dual channel ram, a 720p display, better backlight and 12 mega pixel camera
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You wish that to be on xperia play 2? That would be beast
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crono141 said:
I'm thinking xperia play 2 is 6 months to 1 year away. If you can wait that long for a new phone, then I would. Otherwise you'll get major phone envy when a new one comes out and you aren't due for an upgrade for another year past that.
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Lets see. But I'd probably wait.
What do you guys think? Is xperia play still worth to buy this year?
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Izzy Stinson said:
Lets see. But I'd probably wait.
What do you guys think? Is xperia play still worth to buy this year?
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I bougth mine this year, abou 1,5 ago and i´m very pleased with my decision.
Got mine in August and still love it to this day
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I don't care about the specs as long as they put in a bigger battery and fix the defect in the slider design.
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i think that the new play shud have better specs than present play cuz really when i saw this phone i expected better graphics nothing else but graphics i saw that either an ipod touch has better graphics than a play or gameloft jus isnt trying for android
S4pro chipset would be best, dualcore krait with adreno 320. However i think it will probably be standard S4.
RealMcoy said:
i think that the new play shud have better specs than present play cuz really when i saw this phone i expected better graphics nothing else but graphics i saw that either an ipod touch has better graphics than a play or gameloft jus isnt trying for android
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i'm pretty sure gameloft doesn't care about android.
MrHaPpY66 said:
i'm pretty sure gameloft doesn't care about android.
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Gameloft cares about whatever gives them the most money, which is iOS.
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RealMcoy said:
i think that the new play shud have better specs than present play cuz really when i saw this phone i expected better graphics nothing else but graphics i saw that either an ipod touch has better graphics than a play or gameloft jus isnt trying for android
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agreed. playing around with ipad 3 today and the graphics are like super hd
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Gameloft cares about whatever gives them the most money, which is iOS.
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enough said.
im currently using an xperia mini pro and the specs are nearly the same as play except it has smaller screen. i noticed there are many android games lag on my mini pro therefore so does the play correct?
so my point is, should i wait for a new play comes out probably a dual core processor is enought at least ir should i just buy it cos there will be no xperia play 2 this year at least???
Izzy Stinson said:
enough said.
im currently using an xperia mini pro and the specs are nearly the same as play except it has smaller screen. i noticed there are many android games lag on my mini pro therefore so does the play correct?
so my point is, should i wait for a new play comes out probably a dual core processor is enought at least ir should i just buy it cos there will be no xperia play 2 this year at least???
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Well, my new phone is dual-core and a lot of games perform just the same as on the play. Some are even worse. I think it depends heavily on the developers and the game itself.
The problem is that Android games in general aren't written in a very efficient way, and aren't optimized well for a wide enough range of phones. Some games run better on Qualcomm, some better on Samsung chips.. Nothing seems to be optimized across the board from what I've seen.
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i would really like to see a new Xplay be released from sony
sony ericsson really dissapointed me with the Xplay they brought out
If they're smart, they won't touch the resolution, because they should be keen enough to figure out that changing the resolution would compromise and sacrifice from the 300+ games Xperia Play already has under it's belt.
With Xperia Play already running everything buttery-smooth on it's 1GHz snapdragon, dual-core/quad-core isn't really necessary... but we all know that media outlets will assure it's publicly DOA with idiotic conjectures about how it'll be behind the curve at launch if they don't (if only the general public could see how well Xperia Play keeps up with the *beasts* like SGS2 in Android's highest-end games)... so might as well slam a spec-whore processor in there to shut them up.
Doubling or quadrupling the RAM wouldn't hurt as long as they keep their focus on quality over quantity as highly as they did by choosing the ELPIDA chip they chose this time around, and doing something about that absolutely puny internal storage would definitely aid us in the combat against Gameloft's phone storage-whoring bastards.
Otherwise, nothing should change. Bump up what needs to be bumped up without compromising what they've established.
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If they're smart, they won't touch the resolution, because they should be keen enough to figure out that changing the resolution would compromise and sacrifice from the 300+ games Xperia Play already has under it's belt.
With Xperia Play already running everything buttery-smooth on it's 1GHz snapdragon, dual-core/quad-core isn't really necessary... but we all know that media outlets will assure it's publicly DOA with idiotic conjectures about how it'll be behind the curve at launch if they don't (if only the general public could see how well Xperia Play keeps up with the *beasts* like SGS2 in Android's highest-end games)... so might as well slam a spec-whore processor in there to shut them up.
Doubling or quadrupling the RAM wouldn't hurt as long as they keep their focus on quality over quantity as highly as they did by choosing the ELPIDA chip they chose this time around, and doing something about that absolutely puny internal storage would definitely aid us in the combat against Gameloft's phone storage-whoring bastards.
Otherwise, nothing should change. Bump up what needs to be bumped up without compromising what they've established.
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It would be interesting if they did a retina display-esque exact double of the current resolution though
The display should be 720p at least, yes, it will probably break a few games, but the benefits far outweigh the cost, most of those apps will be updated for 720p, or should have been written in a way to upscale to begin with. Hardware will likely be S4 or S4pro from what I can see from Sony so far and would be a good choice in keeping compatibility with current titles.
TLR whilst your steadfast resolve in defence of the plays specs is very admirable, and I would echo them myself on occasion, updating the plays specs is a must, Sony themselves have said that they had to do a lot of rework on ics to run on phones with such low ram, whilst the play might be able to run current gen games fine, it wont have a chance at many future upcoming titles, ive played gta3 on a sgs2, ...whilst the controls are terrible, theres a massive difference in overall performance.
Most of these games run well on the play to begin with because they were built with the sgs/xplay 1ghz single core cpu/gpu in mind, because they comprise a large portion of the market, that wont be the case in 6 months, soon these phones will be relegated to the low end, and just like pcs, your phone will be too obsolete to run the current games. I havent seen any games made yet that really push the sgs2 or even higher end phones to anywhere near their potential.
Also, i would be quite happy to see the occasional lag and force kills of running apps disappear. I do agree that they need to continue the good work they have done so far, the form factor and controls are good, expandable memory, removable battery, all that jaz, all I could really ask for is proper analog sticks and larger/better positioned volume up/down for gaming doubleduty.
Hi Gamers !
does anyone has any problem about sony's promises ?!?!
- ICS ?
- PSP gmes ??
- sony's exclusive games ??
- xperia play 2 ?? when we should have high end xperia play , not doual core , i'm talking about quad core , tegra 3 ...
- i this nesseccry for u to buy xperia play2 or waiting for that ? , or thats better to move on galaxy s3 with a gamepad ??
cause xperia play = nothing special ( till now )
- why sony do not use it's game exprience ??!?!!!
i really like my xperia play , but i just bought that because of sony , cause i'm gamer , like you , we need sony's game , not F*** gameloft global game ...
Pretty sure the only thing you listed that was ever actually promised is that we get ICS...
jacklebott said:
Pretty sure the only thing you listed that was ever actually promised is that we get ICS...
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Yep. PSP games aren't even possible hardware wise. About 10x the power of the original system is needed to emulate the games on a computer.
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Some Psp games were actually promised.
mehdi.moha said:
Hi Gamers !
does anyone has any problem about sony's promises ?!?!
- ICS ?
- PSP gmes ??
- sony's exclusive games ??
- xperia play 2 ?? when we should have high end xperia play , not doual core , i'm talking about quad core , tegra 3 ...
- i this nesseccry for u to buy xperia play2 or waiting for that ? , or thats better to move on galaxy s3 with a gamepad ??
cause xperia play = nothing special ( till now )
- why sony do not use it's game exprience ??!?!!!
i really like my xperia play , but i just bought that because of sony , cause i'm gamer , like you , we need sony's game , not F*** gameloft global game ...
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Sony hasn't backed out on any of its promises yet.
1)Sony's still on track for ICS , they said at the end of may/early June.
2)Sony have never promised they would put any psp games on the xperia play although we do have loco roco. They said the playstation suite would come which may have psp games - this will be released in an update - they did not give us a date of when this would happen so they have not broken any promises.
3)There's plenty of Xperia exclusive games, virtua tennis,fifa 12,Lode runner etc etc.
4)Sony has never said they would make an xperia play 2.
5)Please move onto the galaxy s3, you're nothing but a nuisance in this forum, constantly asking for psp games,xperia play 2's etc.
6)Sony does use its "game experience" as the playstation emulator wouldn't be possible without it.
Finally, its your fault for buying a phone without reading up on it, Sony don't owe you anything.
Edit- Urgh thanked him accidentally while clicking quote -_-.
I find it kind of ironic that people play on gaming centric phone and handle it as "playstation phone" while they care and demand high end specs when playstation 3 is pretty low spec'd in todays market
Consoles have never been beasts in graphical category.ö
But I think its pretty obvious, we have the base for Xplay so it doesnt cost so much and isnt "delayed" in terms of specs, we also can speculate that next Xplay will be released when the hardware is mature enough to emulate PSP and PS2 games.
I dont remember that sony ever promised PSP games, you can expect them to release PSP games at same timespan as any orher Top quality AAA PSP games would be released. Portting is essentialy recreating majority of the code for new platform.
mehdi.moha said:
Hi Gamers !
does anyone has any problem about sony's promises ?!?!
- ICS ?
- PSP gmes ??
- sony's exclusive games ??
- xperia play 2 ?? when we should have high end xperia play , not doual core , i'm talking about quad core , tegra 3 ...
- i this nesseccry for u to buy xperia play2 or waiting for that ? , or thats better to move on galaxy s3 with a gamepad ??
cause xperia play = nothing special ( till now )
- why sony do not use it's game exprience ??!?!!!
i really like my xperia play , but i just bought that because of sony , cause i'm gamer , like you , we need sony's game , not F*** gameloft global game ...
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Every time I see a stupid post like this I know right away who it is
mehdi.moha said:
Hi Gamers !
does anyone has any problem about sony's promises ?!?!
- ICS ?
- PSP gmes ??
- sony's exclusive games ??
- xperia play 2 ?? when we should have high end xperia play , not doual core , i'm talking about quad core , tegra 3 ...
- i this nesseccry for u to buy xperia play2 or waiting for that ? , or thats better to move on galaxy s3 with a gamepad ??
cause xperia play = nothing special ( till now )
- why sony do not use it's game exprience ??!?!!!
i really like my xperia play , but i just bought that because of sony , cause i'm gamer , like you , we need sony's game , not F*** gameloft global game ...
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Did you forget to mention your HDMI?
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Another dumb post by mehdi.moha
ICS is the only promised thing as well as playstation integration both of which are on their way.... If you ask me sony is making the same mistakes sega did they dont offer enough games for their hardware the most successful console ever was probably the ps2 and that was because it offered backwards compatibility so you had the new awesome games and the old ones. Personally I think that before they made the play they should have already ported psp games and ps1 games and a few ps2 games and then also there would have been xperia play optimised games.
As for the xperia play 2 sony has adamently said there are no plans! NONE. But it is likely that they will eventually make a new one.
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Every time I see a stupid post like this I know right away who it is
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I totally agree lol EVERY time makes me wanna play mortal combat and play the fire dude...
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Here's a thought. I myself find his posts and threads completely pointless, offer no value and are just complaints about everything. Here is what people should do who find his posts worthless. Don't reply. I don't. And I'm only reply to tell people this. I know whenever he posts a comment on my threads its nothing b!itching about something unrelated to my thread and he has even gone on to tell me in my thread that he "doesn't care". Everyone has the right to an opinion but it doesn't mean we have to add fuel to the fire and respond. Ignore it and move on. I do. For users who enjoy the xperia plays move on to other useful and enjoyable threads/posts. For those who are unhappy in their decision of buying this (awesome) phone then follow this guy. But for the love of Barney the purple dinosaur get another phone if you are not happy and save other users the annoyance of seeing constant pointless negative posts by userssuch as these. I know this is long. So...rant done. Now...lets go play some games and have fun.
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mehdi.moha said:
- ICS ?
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You should know that ICS is officially announced for end of may/beginnig of June. We are at 13th of May...
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Sony Ericsson never promised PSP games for the XPeria Play. NEVER. Stop thinking the Xperia Play will be a PSP + phone just because it looks like a PSP Go.
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- sony's exclusive games ??
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Sony Ericsson paid for some temporary and optimized exclusives (Minecraft POcket Edition for example).
mehdi.moha said:
- xperia play 2 ?? when we should have high end xperia play , not doual core , i'm talking about quad core , tegra 3 ...
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Xperia Play 2??? The Xperia Play 1 has aprox. 1 year of life! You already want another one? Stop using the mobiles as things for being used a short time. A mobile should have 3 years of use, not less of one. Do you know how much natural resources are needed to make a mobile??? Stop being so materialistic!
Before buying your Xperia Play you should had informed about what hardware it has, now don't cry because it hasn't got dual core, more RAM, etc. Learn to enjoy what you have!
mehdi.moha said:
- i this nesseccry for u to buy xperia play2 or waiting for that ? , or thats better to move on galaxy s3 with a gamepad ??
cause xperia play = nothing special ( till now )
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Xperia Play = Nothing special??? A mobile phone with a gamepad for playing games anywhere? What other device has anything similar??? The Xperia Play may not be the perfect mobile device, but please, don't you dare to say it is nothing special, because is one of the most original mobile phone out there...
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- why sony do not use it's game exprience ??!?!!!
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You are confusing two different compannies: Sony Ericsson (SE) and Sony Computer Entertainment (SCE). Son Ericsson is the one that made the Xperia Play while Sony Computer Entertainment just helped on its developing (the gaming controls, apps like Playstation Suite, etc.). This means it is NOT a console, it is a mobile that allows to play mobile games more comfortably with its game controls. The "Playstation Certified" logo is just an accessory that promises that this device will recieve the Playstation Suite and SOME content from the Playstation Store.
I hate like you companies like Gameloft, but think a bit, you seriously think that big gaming companies (Square Enix, Capcom, etc.) will make an super exclusive title like (for example) a Final Fantasy or a Kingdom Hearts for a device that not so much people have (in comparison with a portable console like the N3DS or the PSVita)? Do you know how much money would they lose?
That's why you don't see super-duper exclusive games like in a console, because the money and because its not a damn console!!!
BUT
You are wrong if you think SCE is not helping with its long experience in the gaming industry. If you would had been more informed you would know about the Playstation Suite Software Developer Kit (SDK), wich is already in open beta since a month ago. This SDK will allow companies and users to create exclusive content to all devices that have the Playstation Certified seal (the PSVita, the Xperia Play, and the two Sony tablets, for now). Isn't this helping with game experience???
Link for more info about the PS Suite SDK: http://www.playstation.com/pss/developer/index_e.html
Think a bit before saying all these things, know what you buy and learn to enjoy it.
Couldn't have said it better. BAM.... right in the nose
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jgregoryj1 said:
Here's a thought. I myself find his posts and threads completely pointless, offer no value and are just complaints about everything. Here is what people should do who find his posts worthless. Don't reply. I don't. And I'm only reply to tell people this. I know whenever he posts a comment on my threads its nothing b!itching about something unrelated to my thread and he has even gone on to tell me in my thread that he "doesn't care". Everyone has the right to an opinion but it doesn't mean we have to add fuel to the fire and respond. Ignore it and move on. I do. For users who enjoy the xperia plays move on to other useful and enjoyable threads/posts. For those who are unhappy in their decision of buying this (awesome) phone then follow this guy. But for the love of Barney the purple dinosaur get another phone if you are not happy and save other users the annoyance of seeing constant pointless negative posts by userssuch as these. I know this is long. So...rant done. Now...lets go play some games and have fun.
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Ya its just SO HARD because he is such a colossal JACKASS
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mehdi.moha said:
Hi Gamers !
does anyone has any problem about sony's promises ?!?!
- ICS ?
- PSP gmes ??
- sony's exclusive games ??
- xperia play 2 ?? when we should have high end xperia play , not doual core , i'm talking about quad core , tegra 3 ...
- i this nesseccry for u to buy xperia play2 or waiting for that ? , or thats better to move on galaxy s3 with a gamepad ??
cause xperia play = nothing special ( till now )
- why sony do not use it's game exprience ??!?!!!
i really like my xperia play , but i just bought that because of sony , cause i'm gamer , like you , we need sony's game , not F*** gameloft global game ...
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Oh wow! Buddy you really need to get over the psp emulation and xperia play 2, if you want to complain send it to sony instead of starting more bulls*it threads about this!!!!! Every time you open a thread its to either complain about something that isn't even real or you have problems that you want everybody else to try and fix for you! Sell the damn thing if your not happy with it geez you would be doing ALL of us a huge favor by not being around here. A mod should have this guy banned!
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Miles Wolf said:
You should know that ICS is officially announced for end of may/beginnig of June. We are at 13th of May...
Sony Ericsson never promised PSP games for the XPeria Play. NEVER. Stop thinking the Xperia Play will be a PSP + phone just because it looks like a PSP Go.
Sony Ericsson paid for some temporary and optimized exclusives (Minecraft POcket Edition for example).
Xperia Play 2??? The Xperia Play 1 has aprox. 1 year of life! You already want another one? Stop using the mobiles as things for being used a short time. A mobile should have 3 years of use, not less of one. Do you know how much natural resources are needed to make a mobile??? Stop being so materialistic!
Before buying your Xperia Play you should had informed about what hardware it has, now don't cry because it hasn't got dual core, more RAM, etc. Learn to enjoy what you have!
Xperia Play = Nothing special??? A mobile phone with a gamepad for playing games anywhere? What other device has anything similar??? The Xperia Play may not be the perfect mobile device, but please, don't you dare to say it is nothing special, because is one of the most original mobile phone out there...
You are confusing two different compannies: Sony Ericsson (SE) and Sony Computer Entertainment (SCE). Son Ericsson is the one that made the Xperia Play while Sony Computer Entertainment just helped on its developing (the gaming controls, apps like Playstation Suite, etc.). This means it is NOT a console, it is a mobile that allows to play mobile games more comfortably with its game controls. The "Playstation Certified" logo is just an accessory that promises that this device will recieve the Playstation Suite and SOME content from the Playstation Store.
I hate like you companies like Gameloft, but think a bit, you seriously think that big gaming companies (Square Enix, Capcom, etc.) will make an super exclusive title like (for example) a Final Fantasy or a Kingdom Hearts for a device that not so much people have (in comparison with a portable console like the N3DS or the PSVita)? Do you know how much money would they lose?
That's why you don't see super-duper exclusive games like in a console, because the money and because its not a damn console!!!
BUT
You are wrong if you think SCE is not helping with its long experience in the gaming industry. If you would had been more informed you would know about the Playstation Suite Software Developer Kit (SDK), wich is already in open beta since a month ago. This SDK will allow companies and users to create exclusive content to all devices that have the Playstation Certified seal (the PSVita, the Xperia Play, and the two Sony tablets, for now). Isn't this helping with game experience???
Link for more info about the PS Suite SDK: http://www.playstation.com/pss/developer/index_e.html
Think a bit before saying all these things, know what you buy and learn to enjoy it.
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ok ! thank you "milles wolf" , YOU PROVIDED THE BEST ANSWER .
Install OnLive and quit crying over games. I'm merrily playing AC:Revelations on mine right now.
AdyCarter said:
Install OnLive and quit crying over games. I'm merrily playing AC:Revelations on mine right now.
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How do you activate eagle vision?
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With difficulty unless Im using the Wireless Pad.
I mainly run around collecting **** in the AC games via my phone due to the L3/R3 annoyances, Brotherhood and 2 work fine though.
AdyCarter said:
Install OnLive and quit crying over games. I'm merrily playing AC:Revelations on mine right now.
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thank you too
Slightly off topic considering it has little to do with the HTC One X and more to do with Tegra 3... but: caught this little gem yesterday http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ouya/ouya-a-new-kind-of-video-game-console
Basically it's a quad-core Tegra 3 board (I'm presuming it has the ninja core as well) with these features:
1GB of RAM
8GB of internal flash storage
HDMI connection to the TV, with support for up to 1080p HD
WiFi 802.11 b/g/n
Bluetooth LE 4.0
USB 2.0 (one)
Wireless controller with standard controls (two analog sticks, d-pad, eight action buttons, a system button), a touchpad (add $30 per extra controller)
Android 4.0 < more Tegra 3 love in other words
And the price is $119 shipped! ($99 if you live in America, which I guess, considering the nature of the product that has brought us together, less of you guys do than is common for forums )
So I guess what this means for us (other than a pretty epic deal on a very cool gadget) is that there will be more Tegra 3-based games being developed in the future, and generally more Tegra 3-based Linux development! Congratulations everyone!
Cheap console, cheap games, good graphics - recipe for like Nintendo era again :good:
Oh man!
That thing is gonna be awesome!!
maybe one should throw 225$ at them!
Ouya gaming console raises $2 million on Kickstarter, doesn't know what to do with it
When we first detailed the Ouya $99 Android-based game console yesterday, we had a feeling it would become a hot property over at Kickstarter. But still, there's no way we anticipated this: the project has just raised $2 million in its first day, having sped past its initial $950,000 goal within a record-breaking 12 hours. Now, in an email to backers, the project has asked for feedback on its "stretch goals" -- in other words, what it should do if it makes even more cash and is able to set its sights on loftier ambitions. If you're a backer then check your email, if you're a potential backer then check the source link, and if you're a traditional VC then weep.
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just watched the video
very impressive effort
so now we have Nvidia's THD initiative, Nexus 7, PS Mobile and Ouya
who needs overclocked Mali
consider this, how many devices will be based on mali? vs how many containing T3? you do the math
If you ask me Nvidia low cost to the masses tegra policy seems to be working like magic
It reminds me of this article Tegra 3's Graphics: Untapped Potential?
Saw this yesterday from a gaming site, it looks impressive. Might pick one up just for an emulator fact.
If I'm correct they said this device came easy to root and install anything you wanted. I'm excited to see this run.
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Raider0001 said:
Cheap console, cheap games, good graphics - recipe for like Nintendo era again :good:
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Honestly I think we can expect better graphics from this thing than the Wii! I'd like an ethernet port or 802.11ac WLAN though, 802.11n often isn't enough for 1080p content.
I saw this yesterday too. They hit their budget/investment requirement in hours! Its not a surprise as its a really really great idea if implemented well. People love gaming on tvs and since almost everyone owns one, picking up a console like this is very affordable. Its price beats most consoles on the market. Forget consoles, even Tegra3 smartphones such as the HOX and others.
On a side note good for gamers on the hox as it will definitely push the THD powered games market means more and better THD games on the market can possible come.
Rekoil said:
Honestly I think we can expect better graphics from this thing than the Wii! I'd like an ethernet port or 802.11ac WLAN though, 802.11n often isn't enough for 1080p content.
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considering how its android,open source with a usb port and all....
you can add that in yourself... maybe not all by yourself but support will be there
death__machine said:
I saw this yesterday too. They hit their budget/investment requirement in hours! Its not a surprise as its a really really great idea if implemented well. People love gaming on tvs and since almost everyone owns one, picking up a console like this is very affordable. Its price beats most consoles on the market. Forget consoles, even Tegra3 smartphones such as the HOX and others.
On a side note good for gamers on the hox as it will definitely push the THD powered games market means more and better THD games on the market can possible come.
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there is one more important thing
T3 will not be left to dust unlike T2
TV consoles last for years and so no dev can simply neglect optimizing for it
if they collected backers this fast, imagine the sales for this thing
however i doubt they will hit their price point
they will also face another issue by the time this thing launches, T4 will start shipping and hence you have an outdated platfrom on day 1 and it won't keep up with the incredible pace of mobile
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they linked to this video from their spec list
i imagine Gameloft is starting to panick after all the hate they collected in Tegra3 owners
thunder07 said:
considering how its android,open source with a usb port and all....
you can add that in yourself... maybe not all by yourself but support will be there
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Actually now that you mention it and I think more, it could be as small or basic as a Rasberry Pi PC with a little bit more. But thats taking the price into consideration. If they really aim at 99$ or so thats how I would do it.
A small device with basic functionality such as wifi(necessary as console gamers won't be downloading .apks and such they would buy directly from play store) output for tv and input for controllers. Obviously the mainboard and some memory and a few usb ports but nothing extra.
hamdir said:
there is one more important thing
T3 will not be left to dust unlike T2
TV consoles last for years and so no dev can simply neglect optimizing for it
if they collected backers this fast, imagine the sales for this thing
however i doubt they will hit their price point
they will also face another issue by the time this thing launchs, T4 will start shipping and hence you have an outed platfrom on day 1 and it won't keep up with the incredible pace of mobile
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I haven't really looked up on Tegra2 but you sound like it just died. Tegra3 on the other hand is a huge success imo. HOX, Nexus 7, Ouya, etc. like you mentioned. The Tegra3+ they plan to release won't be as successful imo.
Rekoil said:
Slightly off topic considering it has little to do with the HTC One X and more to do with Tegra 3... but: caught this little gem yesterday http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ouya/ouya-a-new-kind-of-video-game-console
Basically it's a quad-core Tegra 3 board (I'm presuming it has the ninja core as well) with these features:
1GB of RAM
8GB of internal flash storage
HDMI connection to the TV, with support for up to 1080p HD
WiFi 802.11 b/g/n
Bluetooth LE 4.0
USB 2.0 (one)
Wireless controller with standard controls (two analog sticks, d-pad, eight action buttons, a system button), a touchpad (add $30 per extra controller)
Android 4.0 < more Tegra 3 love in other words
And the price is $119 shipped! ($99 if you live in America, which I guess, considering the nature of the product that has brought us together, less of you guys do than is common for forums )
So I guess what this means for us (other than a pretty epic deal on a very cool gadget) is that there will be more Tegra 3-based games being developed in the future, and generally more Tegra 3-based Linux development! Congratulations everyone!
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Ninja Core xD
death__machine said:
Actually now that you mention it and I think more, it could be as small or basic as a Rasberry Pi PC with a little bit more. But thats taking the price into consideration. If they really aim at 99$ or so thats how I would do it.
A small device with basic functionality such as wifi(necessary as console gamers won't be downloading .apks and such they would buy directly from play store) output for tv and input for controllers. Obviously the mainboard and some memory and a few usb ports but nothing extra.
I haven't really looked up on Tegra2 but you sound like it just died. Tegra3 on the other hand is a huge success imo. HOX, Nexus 7, Ouya, etc. like you mentioned. The Tegra3+ they plan to release won't be as successful imo.
Ninja Core xD
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the 5th core can be used in a console differently to drive the UI and free the other cores for their main job
their release date is march
dunno its starting to feel we are going backwards after all the advancing we made with the PS3/Xbox360
why do we need this when the next gen is around the corner?
T3 makes sense in a mobile but as a console i dunno
I nearly brought this I even entered my details then cancelled.
This is why I wanted it- cheap and more than likely be worth more than the money you pay for it. It looks great.
The reason why I cancelled is yes games on my phone are great but personally I don't think they compare to a console.
I don't see a lot of devs making games expecially for this either. I just see this playing phone or tablet games on my tv.
I can do this already if I buy a cable for my phone and use a bluetooth controller.
I hope they do well as more tegra 3 games for us would be great
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colemanuk said:
I nearly brought this I even entered my details then cancelled.
This is why I wanted it- cheap and more than likely be worth more than the money you pay for it. It looks great.
The reason why I cancelled is yes games on my phone are great but personally I don't think they compare to a console.
I don't see a lot of devs making games expecially for this either. I just see this playing phone or tablet games on my tv.
I can do this already if I buy a cable for my phone and use a bluetooth controller.
I hope they do well as more tegra 3 games for us would be great
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yea my thoughts exactly
by the way the N7 doesnt have MHL support if i am correct?
This would have actually been a no brainer for gameloft if you think about it
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hamdir said:
the 5th core can be used in a console differently to drive the UI and free the other cores for their main job
their release date is march
dunno its starting to feel we are going backwards after all the advancing we made with the PS3/Xbox360
why do we need this when the next gen is around the corner?
T3 makes sense in a mobile but as a console i dunno
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I don't think ouya is really aiming at the hardcore gaming market, the Wii came around the same time as the Xbox 360 and the PS3, yet it wasn't nearly as good, that's because they went for the casual and younger gamer, and their needs are very likely both met and exceeded by the Tegra 3.
And yeah, 5th core could power background tasks like say a chat network similar to what Xbox live has.
colemanuk said:
I nearly brought this I even entered my details then cancelled.
This is why I wanted it- cheap and more than likely be worth more than the money you pay for it. It looks great.
The reason why I cancelled is yes games on my phone are great but personally I don't think they compare to a console.
I don't see a lot of devs making games expecially for this either. I just see this playing phone or tablet games on my tv.
I can do this already if I buy a cable for my phone and use a bluetooth controller.
I hope they do well as more tegra 3 games for us would be great
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You do realise that you don't buy things on Kickstarter right, you fund projects, and your money wouldn't have been taken from your bank account until the 9th of August.
colemanuk said:
This would have actually been a no brainer for gameloft if you think about it
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so far im puzzled as their attitude toward the T3
if you look at the A7 config files, its detecting the game as "medium_android" with almost everything off, not a single reference to tegra
its as if it doesn't exists
Rekoil said:
I don't think ouya is really aiming at the hardcore gaming market, the Wii came around the same time as the Xbox 360 and the PS3, yet it wasn't nearly as good, that's because they went for the casual and younger gamer, and their needs are very likely both met and exceeded by the Tegra 3.
And yeah, 5th core could power background tasks like say a chat network similar to what Xbox live has.
You do realise that you don't buy things on Kickstarter right, you fund projects, and your money wouldn't have been taken from your bank account until the 9th of August.
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Err yeah duhhhh.
I pay $99 I get console that's all I care about I'm not in it for charity
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colemanuk said:
Err yeah duhhhh.
I pay $99 I get console that's all I care about I'm not in it for charity
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i would take the N7 instead with a blind eye but google shot it in the legs by removing MHL support
its just hit me! this thing will fly!
OnLive and this are a match made in heaven, but I think they need an Ethernet port
the more I think of it the more I feel tegra3 is just ingenious, yes the sgs3 processor is stronger and the snapdragon 4 is more efficient
but we r missing the point, t3 is ingenious because of its older process and low cost nature, as well as prism, direct touch, lp core and amazing media abilities
add to this a ready gaming centric SDK and u can see why they r selling them like hot cakes
as a whole t3 is the best solution out there, its unique, capable and well supported
I dont think qualcomm has a chance of catching up this round
when NV ceo answered we will release quad first and then devs will figure out how to u use it, he was spot on!
hamdir said:
its just hit me! this thing will fly! - ENGAGE BRAIN LESS BULL**** MODE SON!
OnLive and this are a match made in heaven, but I think they need an Ethernet port - YEA BUT ON LIVE IS **** I BETA TESTED IT
the more I think of it the more I feel tegra3 is just ingenious, yes the sgs3 processor is stronger and the snapdragon 4 is more efficient - MY GTX570 is more efficient!!!
but we r missing the point, t3 is ingenious because of its older process and low cost nature, as well as prism, direct touch, lp core and amazing media abilities - MY PC CAN PLAY ANYTHING
add to this a ready gaming centric SDK and u can see why they r selling them like hot cakes - I DONT NEED AND SKD TO DEVELOP FOR PC!
as a whole t3 is the best solution out there, its unique, capable and well supported - ITS NOT USE YOUR BRAIN
I dont think qualcomm has a chance of catching up this round - THEY DONT NEED TO
when NV ceo answered we will release quad first and then devs will figure out how to u use it, he was spot on!
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Dont be fukin stupid. Why would anyone buy a device which can do less than my PC, and less than my phone....
Hello i've got a question?...
I have now a htc wildfire and it is time to buy an new one I like gaming on mobiles, So my decision is buying a Xperia Play for its WONDERFULL keypad and mainly for it's price(i have a limited amount of money for a phone) ,but is it good for era 2012-2013 gaming? like modern combat 4 and Grand Theft Auto® Vice city 10th year anniversery and maybe other wonderfull games. and is the resulotion also good, i've got optimus 2x in thaughts but i read it breaks too fast and battery sucks
please give me some advice
Cheers :victory:
Yep.
But might not be the best choice for games in 2013 or 2014.
It's a good phone but without overcloing or good optimized games, I don't think that it is highly recommendable to buy it for that purpose you have of playing 2013 and 2014 games on it.
But if you can get it cheap why don't try it?
^Yeah, forget to state that its also really cheap.
Get it, it's a good phone. It's not as generic looking as the others.
Are there maybe other phones that are cheap and can run these games
How much are you looking to spend?
Used Galaxy Nexus are going cheap right now.
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The current games aren't running as smoothly as they should. I do not intend to sound pessimistic, but I doubt games in '13 or '14 will run smoothly, if the world still exists by then.
No it isn't. Anybody telling you to buy the phone is either a gaming enthusiast or really loves the phone. The phone has been long abondoned by Sony, so no updates. It is also really underpowered and lag becomes apparent unless you've overclocked. However, compare it to even the SGS2 which was released around the same time and this phone is still not smooth. There are people using this device as a pure android gaming device now and many including developers have bought new devices. As well as this, the phone is thick which can be an annoyance at times. Before anybody says my phone is not setup properly, I am running .62 stock,debloated,overclocked.
EDIT- The battery sucks as well.
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The current games aren't running as smoothly as they should. I do not intend to sound pessimistic, but I doubt games in '13 or '14 will run smoothly, if the world still exists by then.
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It'll exist. We will all be in debt though. And not current debt, even worse debt.
OT - I honestly wouldn't. Get a SG3. You can play future games and current games on lovely settings.
I'd love to buy a sgs3 but i have a limited amount of money
erdal67 said:
I'd love to buy a sgs3 but i have a limited amount of money
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I just bought a Galaxy Nexus for $200, so you just have to look. Its not as fast as the S3in term of gaming, but yhe software is better on a whole due to being stock Android and you can run a kernel to overclock the GPU.
erdal67 said:
Hello i've got a question?...
I have now a htc wildfire and it is time to buy an new one I like gaming on mobiles, So my decision is buying a Xperia Play for its WONDERFULL keypad and mainly for it's price(i have a limited amount of money for a phone) ,but is it good for era 2012-2013 gaming? like modern combat 4 and Grand Theft Auto® Vice city 10th year anniversery and maybe other wonderfull games. and is the resulotion also good, i've got optimus 2x in thaughts but i read it breaks too fast and battery sucks
please give me some advice
Cheers :victory:
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I have both these phones and I can tell you my Play outperforms my 2X in everything.
My 2X isn't rooted/custom whereas my Play is, but it's no excuse for it to perform as badly as it does. You're also tied down to Android 2.3 on the 2X as there is a problem with video accelleration in ICS/JB... Something to do with Nivvy not releasing proper libs or something.. Not sure.
But yeah, Play all the way.
Not to mention, all those emulators and vintage games you can now play again on a handheld device... The play is around £100 off ebay these days, for that kind of price you simply can't say no! Especially when all these developers are working so hard to make the Play so much better than Sony ever could..
What about xperia U , P, Arc S, Ray, neo V
The play is a wonderful phone but now day graphics are a little much for it now unless you O/C and everything else but I would suggest you get like the RAZR M with a. 2Ghz processor but single core, but the play is just out of date and I suggest you get a better phone... but I love my play
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A phone, with a genuine gamepad, that can emulate everything up to and including N64 and Playstation,
That will NEVER get old for me.
Screw new games.
For older games, it's the best thing you can buy. But most newer games and even some games from last year will lag or not have the same graphics as a higher end device. If you care about how your games look, then don't get this. Another thing is, the single core 1 GHZ processor is really slow, even with OC. A newer dual core or quad core device will be a much better experience when it comes to thing like web browsing and general things you would do on a phone as well as running games very fast. Multi-tasking is not good on this phone on any ROM other than stock. It has a very low amount of ram. My minimum specs for an Android phone after this will be dual core and 1 gb of RAM. Single core phones make android look bad imo.