Develop Bugs

[Q] Do you regret your purchase/upgrade?

Hi Fellow Members from all over the World:
If you knew all the Desire HD issues before you buy it/upgrade, would have you bought it/upgraded?
Please post your comments and share youir experience!

I thought this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=817464 was dealing with this topic (backwards from your) very well ...why create another one?

not in the slighest i thought it was good to start with but today after some searching it was brought to life

M_T_M said:
I thought this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=817464 was dealing with this topic (backwards from your) very well ...why create another one?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Mine is general AND has a poll, the other one is too specific and restrictive: proximity sensor and battery. In mine, you can vote and eventually explain why. That's why I created a new thread.

Absolutely not.
I had the nexus one before and thought DHD would be my secondary phone (I have to have two) but after playing with it for one hour I switched sim cards and never looked back.
One word - screen. When I look at the nexus screen now it looks like a toy.
Although I am a bit irritated about the speaker quality.

kuba1410 said:
Absolutely not.
I had the nexus one before and thought DHD would be my secondary phone (I have to have two) but after playing with it for one hour I switched sim cards and never looked back.
One word - screen. When I look at the nexus screen now it looks like a toy.
Although I am a bit irritated about the speaker quality.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
agreed, the speaker quality is terrible and so low

Hell no this phone rocks.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

By the way, I'll vote and answer when I get mine. I pre-ordered mine as I'm due to an upgrade and they said I'll get it tomorrow but I know the demand for the DHD is so high that it might take longer.

who knows said:
agreed, the speaker quality is terrible and so low
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Isn't it? You would expect more from a flagship phone and boasting "Dolby Mobile" and "SRS", the nexus one had none of these and although the speakers were rubbish too, they still where better then those on the DHD.

Absolutely not! I got mine yesterday & I LOVE it. I cant stop playing with it

Ignoring the battery issue (it's getting better after few charge cycles though), I don't regret it all.

today i took mine out for a solo test run for the first time. came off charge at 10am and 12 hours later has 35% battery, after 45 minutes of gps, 3 hours of wifi internet and and hour of angry birds. oh and 3 phone calls. thats not bad. this is after 8 complete charge cycles done over 4 days. when you use it heavily it dies quick, but pace yourself and it does juuuust fine.
the camera is shockingly bad though. white balance is terrible, focusing in anything but perfect light is crap, and the image quality is questionable.
and the ear speaker volume is a little quiet for calls in loud environments, but its CLEAR. i had no problems hearing what the other person was saying, even in a noisy cafe.

I'm not really shure if I would have bought it and these are the reasons why:
battery life is not that good, although I expected this so it's not really a reason, though I'd like to mention it
"Locations" only works with data connection, so what's the use of preloaded maps then? I want to see my location without having a data connection (when roaming abroad) but this is not possible, why not? such a shame. This should be possible. I even think it's ridicoulously easy to implement in a firmware update, though I wouldn't really know
Speaker is absolutely useless. I never hear it when it's in my pocket and to make matters worse, the vibrator is not one of the best either. It makes a lot more noise than it should and it just vibrates fast, not hard. The lower the frequency and the bigger the amplitude of the vibration, the harder you feel it. Every phone in this price range I ever had, had a better vibrator
camera quality is very disappointing. On the DHD's screen it all looks very nice and crisp, untill you copy the shot to your pc, bummer... I was expecting a serious improvement in quality, coming from an iPhone 3GS but sadly this is not true
setting up the dlna to work (if compatible, which it is rarely!) is harder than running to the store, buying a Nokia N8 + hdmi cable, transfer some movies to it and connect it to your tv. So, kinda useless...
is it really that much trouble to install a LED notification light that you can actually see from an angle?
Ok, flash in the browser works, but how... it's slow and laggy
to sum it up, the DHD is still a fantastic phone, but to me a flagship device should excell on EVERY field, or at least be way above average on every field. This means GPS solution + speaker + camera... everything! And it just doesn't, not even by a long shot.
Honestly I was expecting more from the DHD
for the moment I'm keeping it because I still feel there is no phone out there that can offer me this much, but as soon as Symbian revamps their UI, I'm going back to Nokia. On the insides, S60 is still a very good OS and I love it for its possibilities but sadly it looks like crap and we're too spoiled by iOS and Android to go back there...

kuba1410 said:
Isn't it? You would expect more from a flagship phone and boasting "Dolby Mobile" and "SRS", the nexus one had none of these and although the speakers were rubbish too, they still where better then those on the DHD.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Dolby is when you use headset not the speaker
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

kuba1410 said:
Absolutely not.
I had the nexus one before and thought DHD would be my secondary phone (I have to have two) but after playing with it for one hour I switched sim cards and never looked back.
One word - screen. When I look at the nexus screen now it looks like a toy.
Although I am a bit irritated about the speaker quality.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Same here. And the colors on the N1 look way overdone. I don't even like to look at it. I read so much on the bad speaker, but I must say I think I have one the better ones I guess. The loudspeaker on mine is very good. I can make too loud sometimes. No distortion at any level. I actually like it. Better than my N1.

The phone arrived four days ago. No regrets yet...

Greenjinky said:
Absolutely not! I got mine yesterday & I LOVE it. I cant stop playing with it
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i bet you do

I've had this phone three weeks (I guess that makes me an old timer) and even now despite the much documented issues of speaker, battery life I can still say not only do I have no regrets, it's the best phone I have ever had.

matthiasdeblaiser said:
I'm not really shure if I would have bought it and these are the reasons why:
battery life is not that good, although I expected this so it's not really a reason, though I'd like to mention it
"Locations" only works with data connection, so what's the use of preloaded maps then? I want to see my location without having a data connection (when roaming abroad) but this is not possible, why not? such a shame. This should be possible. I even think it's ridicoulously easy to implement in a firmware update, though I wouldn't really know
Speaker is absolutely useless. I never hear it when it's in my pocket and to make matters worse, the vibrator is not one of the best either. It makes a lot more noise than it should and it just vibrates fast, not hard. The lower the frequency and the bigger the amplitude of the vibration, the harder you feel it. Every phone in this price range I ever had, had a better vibrator
camera quality is very disappointing. On the DHD's screen it all looks very nice and crisp, untill you copy the shot to your pc, bummer... I was expecting a serious improvement in quality, coming from an iPhone 3GS but sadly this is not true
setting up the dlna to work (if compatible, which it is rarely!) is harder than running to the store, buying a Nokia N8 + hdmi cable, transfer some movies to it and connect it to your tv. So, kinda useless...
is it really that much trouble to install a LED notification light that you can actually see from an angle?
Ok, flash in the browser works, but how... it's slow and laggy
to sum it up, the DHD is still a fantastic phone, but to me a flagship device should excell on EVERY field, or at least be way above average on every field. This means GPS solution + speaker + camera... everything! And it just doesn't, not even by a long shot.
Honestly I was expecting more from the DHD
for the moment I'm keeping it because I still feel there is no phone out there that can offer me this much, but as soon as Symbian revamps their UI, I'm going back to Nokia. On the insides, S60 is still a very good OS and I love it for its possibilities but sadly it looks like crap and we're too spoiled by iOS and Android to go back there...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Very good points dude.

mancuk29 said:
Dolby is when you use headset not the speaker
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Didn't know that, any way, this till makes you think that speakers have some quality to them.
bobbyphoenix said:
Same here. And the colors on the N1 look way overdone. I don't even like to look at it. I read so much on the bad speaker, but I must say I think I have one the better ones I guess. The loudspeaker on mine is very good. I can make too loud sometimes. No distortion at any level. I actually like it. Better than my N1.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Actually, the my first impression was: Nice, big screen, but the colors are off.
I had a black wallpaper on my N1, put the same on DHD and it looked bleached.
After over one week of usage I have no reservations as to the colors, the screen is pure brilliance, I am never going back to a <4.3" screen.
You must be lucky with the speaker. Youtube is nigh unusable without headphones.

Love this phone, BUT...

I recently had the SGS2 & Iphone 4 and couldn't wait to get the Galaxy Nexus. I've had it as my primary phone for nearly 2 weeks now. I get that no phone is perfect, but I must say I did have higher expectations due to all the hype backing it up. I'm thinking of returning this phone back to the store due to the following issues:
Battery Life is horrible
Camera quality is poor
Speakerphone volume is too low (yes, even with Volume+)
Google Music constantly crashes while multitasking
While accessing your voice mail and dial pad is on the screen, proximity sensor doesn't deactivate quick enough before your face presses buttons
There doesn't appear to be a "search" feature in the native Exchange e-mail app
During a phone call, when a text message is received, there is no audible sound or vibration (this should be a no brainer feature to have) - light flow is too buggy
That's about it for now. Now I really hope that these items can be addressed via an OTA update, because quite frankly, that's one of the reasons I went with a Nexus phone.

My battery life is great. A full day of use with no charge.

skynet99 said:
I recently had the SGS2 & Iphone 4 and couldn't wait to get the Galaxy Nexus. I've had it as my primary phone for nearly 2 weeks now. I get that no phone is perfect, but I must say I did have higher expectations due to all the hype backing it up. I'm thinking of returning this phone back to the store due to the following issues:
Battery Life is horrible
Camera quality is poor
Speakerphone volume is too low (yes, even with Volume+)
Google Music constantly crashes while multitasking
While accessing your voice mail and dial pad is on the screen, proximity sensor doesn't deactivate quick enough before your face presses buttons
There doesn't appear to be a "search" feature in the native Exchange e-mail app
During a phone call, when a text message is received, there is no audible sound or vibration (this should be a no brainer feature to have) - light flow is too buggy
That's about it for now. Now I really hope that these items can be addressed via an OTA update, because quite frankly, that's one of the reasons I went with a Nexus phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
same here, coming from a galaxy note, battery life sucks. I've had the phone off the charger for 30 min and with 6 min of screen time, its already at 96%.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium

yep battery life could be better but that's why I have my "slim" 2100mah on the way. I do wonder about the camera though. I am very experienced at photography and even though
I steady all of my shots they still come out grainy and looking like the ISO has been jacked up. I almost feel as if I took better shots with my thunderbolt.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium

The battery life is pretty crap. I hope the upgraded battery lasts more than 4 hours of constant use. :|

mike2518 said:
same here, coming from a galaxy note, battery life sucks. I've had the phone off the charger for 30 min and with 6 min of screen time, its already at 96%.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Remember that it doesn't charge to 100%; it's likely that it fell almost immediately to 97-96% right when you unplugged it.
Besides, 30 minutes isn't enough time to give you a real feel for how the battery is going to last you.

I agree on the camera. Even my HTC Legend takes better pictures. Only a tiny bit of movement makes the pictures unusable. Crap! Hope they improve that in future updates.

Everything you listed appears to be solvable via an ICS update from Google, except maybe for the battery life.
The only thing that concerns me on your list is the speakerphone volume. If the speaker itself is fully capable hardware wise, then a software update hopefully should achieve louder audio, unless the speaker is just crap. I use speakerphone a lot so thanks for bringing this to my attention, something I wouldn't have thought to test out in the store.
Everything else on your list is not a big deal, it will get fixed. Thats the benefit of Nexus.

Good point guys. The only other concern I forgot to mention is that when you change the phone's orientation from portrait to landscape (or vice versa), it takes a while before it changes. Sometimes I have to shake the phone (I'm not even kidding) and then right afterwards, when I attempt to change orientation it works just fine. Let's hope a software patch addresses these issues.

I agree about the speaker volume, I keep missing calls & texts when I am out because I just cannot hear them on the Nexus over the background noise. Also the camera is rather underwhelming, though the video recording isn't bad.

skynet99 said:
Good point guys. The only other concern I forgot to mention is that when you change the phone's orientation from portrait to landscape (or vice versa), it takes a while before it changes. Sometimes I have to shake the phone (I'm not even kidding) and then right afterwards, when I attempt to change orientation it works just fine. Let's hope a software patch addresses these issues.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yea, i noticed this as well, the accelerometer is very slow on this phone. The transitions themselves are very fluid, but it does take an exuberant amount of time. Meh, software bugs i guess, it'll get ironed out in the end.
Super Chimp said:
I agree about the speaker volume, I keep missing calls & texts when I am out because I just cannot hear them on the Nexus over the background noise. Also the camera is rather underwhelming, though the video recording isn't bad.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Download Volume+ (by meltus) from the app store and set it to around +8, itll make a world of a difference.

The orientation change isn't a bug, its set at whatever time-lag the development team set it too. If you run a CPU meter in your task bar, the thing doesn't even jump when you rotate. The time-lag is set to a delay time to reduce battery drain for common motions like passing it to a friend or shifting around in bed watching videos. It would be nice to be adjustable, but its set to what it is... like 2-3 seconds. However, I'm sure the orientation code is probably on a low/medium priority thread so some times it could take 3-4 seconds based on background processes. <shrug>
I think orientation speed is nothing to complain about. As long as my home screen swipe without lag and the app drawer opens without gitters, I'm a happy camper!

slowhatch said:
Download Volume+ (by meltus) from the app store and set it to around +8, itll make a world of a difference.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
From the description it sounds like it is really for rooted devices, which mine isn't?

I miss my Thunderbolt...
I read something interesting on another post referring to the LTE Galaxy Nexus. "If you don't get it - don't get it." Those words have echoed in my head as I have been trying to like the GN. Am I deficient in my understanding of the platform and developer orientation. Or is there something fundamentally wrong that I should expect these issues being on the front edge of the 4.0 wave? regardless, my rooted Thunderbolt was awesome! My rooted, unlocked bootloader GN has been somewhat disappointing for many of the reasons mentioned here plus many of the software I used on the Tbolt don't support ICS yet so I lost functionality big time. I am on the verge of assigning my GN to a secondary line and putting my Tbolt back to daily use until GN is solid.

Arent these the types of things one can "assume" will come up when getting a phone like this? It's got a brand new flavor of android. No one troubleshoots, tests like the people over at Apple. I've come to expect things like this. Even with Apple at times. The bugs arent quite squashed yet.

Super Chimp said:
From the description it sounds like it is really for rooted devices, which mine isn't?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
im not rooted and it works perfect.

First Impressions (and questions) - AT&T Version

All,
So this is my first foray into the Android world, coming from an iPhone 4 that I liked but have been bored with for quite some time.
First impressions are mostly positive. The phone is obviously built well and sits in the hand fine despite its large size. The screen is great - more than enough brightness, extremely crisp text and great colors. The thing is extremely fast - pretty much no lag that I can find, even when I turn on ECO mode. I just got it this afternoon and used it with the charge it had from the box, so I can't comment fully on battery life yet. But it seems to be power hungry so far, though that was doing a lot of initial syncing and keeping the screen on a good bit.
Camera, as several reviews said, is average at best.
If you have any questions about it, let me know and I'll give my findings. I do have a couple of issues, though:
1. The phone gets quite warm, even after the mystery update. And I'm talking about just surfing the net and downloading apps - no games or anything intensive at all. If you try to turn the display up past 80 or 90%, you get an alert saying "Unable to further brighten due to temperature increase. Try again later." While it's plenty bright at 50%, this is completely unacceptable. If they don't do something about that quickly, I'm probably returning it.
2. I can't find a way to disable LTE. I'm getting 25-30mbit down here in north Atlanta, but I won't need that a lot of the time. I'd prefer to put it on HSPA+ to save battery (and, presumably, keep the thing cool.)
3. Voice Dial stinks. It "gets" what I'm asking for through my Motorola Roadster 2 speakerphone about 20% of the time. This worked 90% of the time with my iPhone. Not sure if there's a better dialer, or if this will improve with Jelly Bean.
Any input appreciated. I'll probably root it tonight or tomorrow, so if anyone needs anything (safe) for bootloader purposes just let me know.
-A

Alpione said:
All,
So this is my first foray into the Android world, coming from an iPhone 4 that I liked but have been bored with for quite some time.
First impressions are mostly positive. The phone is obviously built well and sits in the hand fine despite its large size. The screen is great - more than enough brightness, extremely crisp text and great colors. The thing is extremely fast - pretty much no lag that I can find, even when I turn on ECO mode. I just got it this afternoon and used it with the charge it had from the box, so I can't comment fully on battery life yet. But it seems to be power hungry so far, though that was doing a lot of initial syncing and keeping the screen on a good bit.
Camera, as several reviews said, is average at best.
If you have any questions about it, let me know and I'll give my findings. I do have a couple of issues, though:
1. The phone gets quite warm, even after the mystery update. And I'm talking about just surfing the net and downloading apps - no games or anything intensive at all. If you try to turn the display up past 80 or 90%, you get an alert saying "Unable to further brighten due to temperature increase. Try again later." While it's plenty bright at 50%, this is completely unacceptable. If they don't do something about that quickly, I'm probably returning it.
2. I can't find a way to disable LTE. I'm getting 25-30mbit down here in north Atlanta, but I won't need that a lot of the time. I'd prefer to put it on HSPA+ to save battery (and, presumably, keep the thing cool.)
3. Voice Dial stinks. It "gets" what I'm asking for through my Motorola Roadster 2 speakerphone about 20% of the time. This worked 90% of the time with my iPhone. Not sure if there's a better dialer, or if this will improve with Jelly Bean.
Any input appreciated. I'll probably root it tonight or tomorrow, so if anyone needs anything (safe) for bootloader purposes just let me know.
-A
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for doing this, i too have and iphone 4, can you please tell me compared to the 4, how loud and clear is the speaker compared to the iphone 4? Thanks!

Alpione said:
All,
So this is my first foray into the Android world, coming from an iPhone 4 that I liked but have been bored with for quite some time.
First impressions are mostly positive. The phone is obviously built well and sits in the hand fine despite its large size. The screen is great - more than enough brightness, extremely crisp text and great colors. The thing is extremely fast - pretty much no lag that I can find, even when I turn on ECO mode. I just got it this afternoon and used it with the charge it had from the box, so I can't comment fully on battery life yet. But it seems to be power hungry so far, though that was doing a lot of initial syncing and keeping the screen on a good bit.
Camera, as several reviews said, is average at best.
If you have any questions about it, let me know and I'll give my findings. I do have a couple of issues, though:
1. The phone gets quite warm, even after the mystery update. And I'm talking about just surfing the net and downloading apps - no games or anything intensive at all. If you try to turn the display up past 80 or 90%, you get an alert saying "Unable to further brighten due to temperature increase. Try again later." While it's plenty bright at 50%, this is completely unacceptable. If they don't do something about that quickly, I'm probably returning it.
2. I can't find a way to disable LTE. I'm getting 25-30mbit down here in north Atlanta, but I won't need that a lot of the time. I'd prefer to put it on HSPA+ to save battery (and, presumably, keep the thing cool.)
3. Voice Dial stinks. It "gets" what I'm asking for through my Motorola Roadster 2 speakerphone about 20% of the time. This worked 90% of the time with my iPhone. Not sure if there's a better dialer, or if this will improve with Jelly Bean.
Any input appreciated. I'll probably root it tonight or tomorrow, so if anyone needs anything (safe) for bootloader purposes just let me know.
-A
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the update. I was planning on picking one up tomorrow, but there seems to be more overwhelming negatives than positives from those that got theirs early. I think Google may have really dropped the ball on anointing LG as their official hardware vendor for the Nexus 4. There seems to be widespread overheating issues with the Nexus 4 which shares the exact same hardware as the Optimus G, sans LTE of course. Cause for concern of the reliability of the internal components as well as the glass back having cracked in 2 review units is pretty disheartening, think I'm going to hold off for now.

1. OG has auto bright limit. Proportionately with temp, phone apply bright limit. It is not a hardware trouble.
If your phone is too hot, return it.
2. Try *147359# at dial. It may show popup menu.

So far no problems, one thing is annoying - notification LED is on the power button, can't really see it, also doesn't stay on, just blinks once, kinda dumb.

So I really am liking this phone. Its not perfect, but its incredibly fast, has a great screen, and has some good customization possibilities.
Going to try Eco mode tomorrow to see how it performs and compare battery life. Seen some reviews that say it nearly doubles battery life, which would make it quite good.
The code mentioned above gave me an error, so I'm still looking for a way to turn off 4G.
As for the heat, I got that message in the parking lot at after I got it and again when it was plugged in, but its cool now on the couch.
Sent from my LG-E970 using xda app-developers app

I've had no issues with the temp on mine as of now. But then again I set my brightness at 63%. My lite blinks more then once but it only blinks I think like every 30 seconds or so. I'm still watching that I could be wrong. Going to to a you tube review on this tomorrow. I will post it here and on the at&t optimus g forum as well. So far I'm loving this phone.
Sent from my LG-E970 using Tapatalk 2

I just switched from iphone 4 to this too and I gotta say it feels ridiculous looking at how small the iphone 4 screen is now after getting used to this.
For me the biggest complaints are the camera. I really don't like the quality and the other is the width. I can't get used to holding it. This is probably just a personal problem but it's feels too wide for me.
Other than that it's a great phone. Very fast sans project butter.
Oh n I don't think I can go back to iphone
Sent from my LG-E970 using xda app-developers app

Agreed. The camera is average.
Back on the heat thing. For whatever reason, I haven't had any more heat problems since the first couple of days. No issues.
A

Further overall impression after several days of use:
1. Battery life is so-so. Getting through a whole day is a 50/50 proposition, which is a significant drop from my old iPhone 4.
2. Camera, as mentioned, is mediocre.
3. Speed is still great.
4. Screen is still great.
5. Sound is pretty good, but not as good as iPhone 4. Signal from the headphone jack is a bit quieter than i4.
6. Internal speaker is kind of tinny and weak.
7. Voice calls over ear piece are plenty loud and sound good.
I really want to like this phone, but I'm coming up with some limitations. We'll see what happens with the development, which could help #1 and that's my biggest concern.
A

I personally like the camera. Better then my sg3
Sent from my LG-E970 using Tapatalk 2

All I can say High Quality phone. And the software is sooo smooth
Sent from my LG-E970 using xda premium

Yeah, in liking it and will probably keep it. Just being very particular.
Sent from my LG Optimus G.

Alpione said:
Yeah, in liking it and will probably keep it. Just being very particular.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Being "very particular" is good in my book. Thanks to everyone on this thread. I hope to see a lot more join in.
On the heat issue, based on my experience with my DInc...
Charging really heats the battery, so doing anything will lead towards overheating.
Holding it in your hand (the more skin contact the worse) or laying it on it's back (worse on a soft surface) prevents heat from escaping.
Releasing heat (IMO) is best done screen down, propped up against something, so that the phone is barely touching any surface. (Alternatively, lay it screen up on a cold hard surface, and move it periodically... contradicting my previous point.)
I'm itching to upgrade, but I'm waiting to see what's what. The LGOG is the current point of reference for all other droids out there. So I'm really hoping to hear many good things (esp. root and unlocked bootloader). But I also really want to hear all of the nitpicking details, because I expect "perfection" from everything. [OT] Yes, I am disappointed a lot of the time. After all, I'm using Microsoft at work and home. [/OT]

For the LED thing, do any market apps work on this?
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app

After a week
After owning this phone for about a week and using the Note 2, Galaxy s3, and the One X+ for a bit, I think this is the best phone out there as far as fluidity goes, and its not even on jelly bean. I wish I can rip off the camera on One X+ and glue it on the optimus G but oh well.
If you're holding out because its not perfect, you're right its not. But you'll be hard pressed to find a phone besting this in the 4.7" form factor for a while. Now if you want to go to a phablet, I would suggest you to try the Note 2 for a bit, but you have to make sure you don't wear skinny jeans, have big hands, are proud of yourself (people look at you when you hold it up to your head) or not scared of face cancer (it warms up your face like nothing when talking for a while). But it's a real great phone, I wish there was a Note 2 mini with the same specs.
Of course, there is the Nexus 4, which I got to play with once, for like 5 minutes, and that was awesome. Sadly, you know all about what it's missing, and personally, I thought that between Jelly Bean 4.2 and no microD or LTE, I would go sans Jelly Bean 4.2. I can live with Jelly bean 4.1.
I dropped my screen brightness about 5% each day till i got used to it and now my optimus G lasts longer and I have no problem looking at a < 40% screen brightness indoors. =/ It helps with the heat.. actually I don't feel much heat anymore either and I still dont use the eco mode. It would be nice if it could automatically use eco for less intensive things and then switch to full for games, but it seems to just stay at eco the whole time.
Hope this helps anyone being on the fence. Oh and I use atnt

I actually prefer my optimus g over my nexus. Better battery life. Plus I scores better on benchmarks.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda premium

kydkupa said:
I actually prefer my optimus g over my nexus. Better battery life. Plus I scores better on benchmarks.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Funny how that is even possible when internally it's identical?
A lot of people really like this phone. Wondering how it compares to the SG3 though?

Muffinman51432 said:
Funny how that is even possible when internally it's identical?
A lot of people really like this phone. Wondering how it compares to the SG3 though?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
They aren't identical. From an operation perspective they have different OS and different radio.
Seems like JB for phones isn't "fully baked" (or at least not for these LG devices). Anandtech got better performance out of the N4, when they chilled it in the freezer 1st.

dbgeek said:
They aren't identical. From an operation perspective they have different OS and different radio.
Seems like JB for phones isn't "fully baked" (or at least not for these LG devices). Anandtech got better performance out of the N4, when they chilled it in the freezer 1st.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
True,what I really meant was same processor/ram, however much more to the phone. I want a phone today, however the N4 looks better in some ways the LGOG in more. If I wasn't sick i would be at AT&T or Best buy right now

How is it so far?

Hi all, haven't got one yet and still have my n7 (2012). They're are sold out right now at my local store. My question is what the title says. How is it? I haven't got the chance to get one in my hands yet. Is it leaps and bounds better!? I've read reviews and check forums and am still unsure if I want one. Any opinions are appreciated.
Sent from my Lean Mean Jelly Bean Machine.

Just read some of the threads.
There are some issues with the screens right now on some devices. Still worth the risk as it is a huge upgrade to the 2012 Nexus 7. No more lag, unbelievable screen, lighter, and thinner. Definitely worth the money.

Well, I usually do not do reviews of mainstream devices, since that is well covered by the "big boys",
But I was secretly waiting for an opportunity to make some comments:
In short, it is an incredible tablet.
Much nicer to hold than any other tablet I've owned/tried. I really like how thin it is, and the texture of the back.
I handed it to my son, and he loaded one of these games where you control something using the accelerometers. He has a Nook Color (With CM7), so he has a similar device to compare it too. He immediately commented how nice it was to hold and play the game.
The screen is incredible too. Way more resolution than my old eyes need, but even with my glasses things look great.
Web pages look more Desktop-like than any other tablet, including 10 inchers. Page rendering is also desktop fast. (Actually faster than this 10+ year old AMD machine I am typing on now, even with lots of RAM, and Xubuntu 12.04, which I credit with prolonging it's life this long).
WiFi, Works great with solid connections, great speed and lots of (indicated) signal. (As compared to other devices).
An iDM5 combination bluetooth speaker, and keyboard paired over BT with no problem at all. I am also using an Apple magic mouse. All re-connect quickly too.
Works (as one would expect) seemlessly with my Chromecast.
Another big plus for me was Standard USB charging. Pretty much anything charges it with no problem.
Now the complaints:
Yes, it has stereo speakers, but they are not that loud or great sounding. Using the EQ in Google Music does not help. Attempting to add Bass only causes it to sound muffled.
I have a Huawei u9508 with 2 speakers on the back, near the bottom (close together). It gives me more volume, more bass, and more stereo effect (OK, that last one may just be a perception thing).
Take the stereo speakers out of your purchasing decision. As of right now, it effectively does not have any better audio than a (than some) single speaker tablet(s).
To be clear (pun) The sound is by no means bad, it's just disapointing considering all the Fraunhofer hype.
Lack of an SD slot almost made me not buy the Nexus. I really miss it. I have a lot of things that use those cards, and not being able to just slot them in the Nexus is a big hit.
I also wish Google would stop "Apple-izing" things. Android had USB Storage mode for most of it's life. I wish it still did. Yes, there are work-arounds, and perhaps it is "safer" not to have it, but it is a clear case of "Defective by Design", in my opinion.
I miss the standard Android (AOSP) Browser and Music Player. (See these forums for installing the AOSP browser, and recommendations for other audio players.)
I do like the fact that it is (except for the Google Stuff) bloat-ware free. It is a very clean, fast, and good-looking factory ROM (I'm an Android purist.)
Also, you know that the community will support the device for years to come, whether or not Google does.
I have not tried Qi charging or NFC.
Should you buy one?
Well, you should not buy any other 7 inch tablet over this one -- I think that is pretty clear.
It is just a question if you need a (another) 7 inch tablet. In my case, I really needed a new tablet. My Archos 80 G9 was (something I cannot describe here with out getting banned) on the day it was made, and I had dissasembled it many times to fix broken USB connections, etc. Lately it would reboot everytime I squeezed the case a bit too hard.
Alternatives I concidered:
Acer A700 -- Same True HD resolution on a 10" screen -- SD card slot -- Dolby Stereo Speakers -- NVIDIA Tegra 3.
Chinese iFive X2 -- Same True HD resolution on an 8.9" screen -- SD card slot -- Front facing stereo speakers -- USB charging.
Say what you want about Chinese tablets, but the iFive X2 was the only one that really met my requirements (desirements). If you believe the iFive website, and some of the reviews, it actually looks like the build quality is pretty good. I may still buy one.

Awesome, zero complaints. Don't let all the negative threads get you down, mine arrived flawless shipped from New York to Ontario, Canada.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app

Linuxslate said:
In short, it is an incredible tablet.
Much nicer to hold than any other tablet I've owned/tried. I really like how thin it is, and the texture of the back.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So true...
It was the first thing I noticed after opening the box and even after 1 week, I am still amazed by the weight, the texture and how fast everything is... Switching between apps is so fun now
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium

My God is it ever amazing. Such a huge upgrade over last gens model. It is a joy to do everything with this tablet. Feels and looks oh so premium as well. Unbelievable how it costs so little in comparison to other tablets. I don't want to type an extremely long review, but even if I did, words cannot express how happy I am with this tablet.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD

Awesome.
I was convinced last year that the original nexus 7 was too small so I got the iPad mini which was great for 6+ months. After I downloaded iOS 7 I thought what a joke ios7 will be and in general for traveling the mini was a major pain(loading movies, documents etc for offline use).
So recently I replaced my mini with a note8 for 2 weeks traveling and thought this is a keeper...then the new nexus 7 came out and I picked it up with the plans to return it after some testing....WOW I ended up returning the note 8 and keeping the N7!
No regrets...love the form factor even with a few hiccups (sometimes screen will just pause for a second and rare crashes).
SO I am using my N7 so much I might sell my Samsung s4 and get something cheaper (I.e. nexus 4) since it just sits when at home.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 4

This is my first tablet ever. And the second android device. The first being HTC Desire, which after OC-ing didn't feel bad.
But I wanted something that could deliver superb performance without the whole process of rooting, unlocking and flashing. So I bought this one, and I can say that this one's the best I've used ever. I have had my hands on those iPads some of my friends have, but they don't sound all that convincing.
There have been no lags at all that I have been able to identify. But still, I'm planning on going through the fun of rooting unlocking and flashing process. Just because I'm a flashaholic.
Regarding the device itself, I have found that the display is more blue-oriented. It has a much colder display than my HTC Desire. But it does look good on it. The data transfer speeds are superb. No performance issues so far. Battery lasts about two days, since I don't actively use it, occasional wifi and browsing, but no more than that. I mainly read books on it, and have successfully devoured 5 books in two weeks (I'm an avid reader , never mind). Others have been facing Wifi issues, but not me. Mine seems adequate. I've got a 3mbps connection in my country, which is the fastest here
There is some dust on the upper left corner, but since there are no dead pixels, I haven't returned mine for the fear of getting a dead-pixels-infected one. I use the tablet without any external peripherals, apart from my custom made earphones, which give a good amount of clear sound with good levels of bass, even without any audio mod.
I don't use the stock things, no... That's right, I've never learned how to use those For music, I have PowerAmp, for movies, MXPlayer, for pictures, QuickPic, for internet, OperaMini, the legendary ES for file browsing, and upcoming root mode
So far, all these apps have been superb in performance at least compared to my HTC Desire.
I should probably be saluting Asus and Google, for this combined effort to hand us quadcore Snapdragon 1.5 GHz, HD display equipped, nice tablet for under 30k in my country.

Thanks for the in depth answers. Went and got one at office max Friday. Last one with too plus a 20% discount from my boys at drippler.. App. Haven't even opened it yet Lol waiting on my screen protector n case from amazon. Now what to do with the old one?
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app

How are you liking the S6 Edge? What phone did you come from previously?

How are you liking the Edge so far? Today will be my first full day with a white 64gb, so far it's been great. I spent yesterday setting it up, kind of a pain coming from an N6.
I haven't noticed any issues, just small software stuff. Occasionally the phone will lag behind for a split second, and for some reason Chrome will not stay open in the multitasking. Even if you switch immediately back, it refreshes the page.
Build quality is great though, feels better and safer than the N6.
Anyone have any tips and tricks?

Pretty good, worried by the battery
Black 64GB. Came from a bootloader unlocked S4.
I really miss the AOSP feel I had gotten used to, but touchwiz is substantially improved since my last interaction with it on the S4 like two years ago. The phone is a pleasure to hold and use. The screen is readable in direct sunlight, unlike my S4. Love the edges. From a software standpoint they are pretty worthless but the effect they create is pleasing and using things like the pull out drawers in Google Apps is really slick. The phone is also pretty snappy, albeit with some microstutter here and there. Camera launches just as fast as they claim and takes incredible pictures, especially in low light.
I am a bit worried by the battery, however. I'm a pretty heavy user and I doubt it'll ever last me a day without some charge stops. Using the factory charger is stupid fast, so I guess that'll be my panacea for the battery issue.
A few major annoyances I've had with the software:
- I haven't been able to sort out is how to decrease the text size in notifications
- I wish I could change more options in the notification pull down, such as a two stage pull down for quicksettings like in AOSP and the option to get rid of s finder and quick connect completely. They're just taking up space!
- why can't all apps go in multi window?

Coming from the Note 4...actually I still have it. The S6E - 128GB Sapphire black is my 2nd line that I use just as much as my primary (N4)
The S6E is refreshing. It's fast, sleek, and extremely well built. I have how Samsung slimmed down Touchwiz ...I actually like it a lot.
Battery is pretty good, not bad by any means....We'll have to wait until we can get some real world usage ....1-2 days isn't going to say much.....we need data after weeks, which will come in due time...
The Edge is comfortable in the hands and not awkward at all. I still can't get over how nice the screen is. Wow....
Camera is super fast to launch and takes notability better pictures than the Note 4, which is/was the best so that says a lot.
I love how the S6 in general is a precursor to the Note 5. Until ~Sept. I"m excited to enjoy having a phone phone again.....

I have an unlocked T-mobile Note 4 I'm using on the AT&T network, and I love it. I ordered my 128GB black S6 edge on March 23rd with regular free shipping and received it yesterday, which is amazing. BTW, the regular S6 already appears to be on back order.
This is one beautiful phone. A huge design turnaround for Samsung. Coming from a Note 4 as my daily it seems real small. It is going to take me some time to get used to it. To me, at first, the edges (literally) of the phone seemed real thin and sharp and felt a little weird in hand. The more I use it though, the more I'm getting used to it.
It seems zippy and very responsive. I'm not a big fan of touchwiz and although it seems much improved, there is still alot of crapware, just mostly moved into folders. I like Nova launcher and put that on it pretty much right away. Nova is very smooth. No stutter I can detect. I've had it less than 24 hours, but this phone is a work of art.
Oh and the new fingerprint reader is awesome. Super quick unlock right after you place your finger on the button. Totally usable compared to the old fingerprint lock.

it's kinda slow to my liking. i came from Nexus 6 64GB and i've been using S6 Edge since Monday. awesome grip feeling, and the camera, superb!!! i still hate TW launcher though. i think it is what's causing for the phone to lag.

1st person that said slow. I thought it as the fastest phone to date.

I just got mine today! Switching from the HTC One m7 GPE.
Still find the handfeel of the device really nice- the screen is super crisp in comparison too. The device feels lighter too. It is very snappy in comparison to the m7, but obviously a comparison to a 2 year old phone doesn't say too much.
I've only had it a few hours now, so nothing really to say on battery life or the camera.
Going from a GPE device to Touchwiz was frustrating, though. Even though I've replaced the keyboard, launcher, and calendar, I still hate how bloated the settings pulldown menu is and how locked down the lockscreen is. I'll try it out for a month or so, and maybe after that they'll have some root options for me to play with...

Came from the s4. Loving this device. I also like that black is actually s3 blue. Lol
Sent from my SM-G925T using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

Got mine yesterday, coming from a TMO HTC One m7.
My m7 was lagging pretty badly especially w/ the latest 5.0 update so not a fair comparison. Also I had the horrible purple issues w/ my m7 camera.
Anyway, S6 Edge is great so far. Hard to tell on battery life, I was used to charging all the time anyway w/ my m7 so I don't think it'll be an issue.
Phone is fast, haven't had any lag. Fingerprint scanner works great, only thing is that the location based smart unlock doesn't seem to work but it's less of an issue because the fingerprint scanner works well.
I've had some issues swiping in from the left to pull up a menu, I think that's mainly because I need to get used to it. I think I have to swipe from further out but it feels a little strange to do w/ the curved edge.
Also, I keep mistaking the back of the phone for the front but I think that's also just a matter of getting used to it. I'm sure in 2 days, I'll be fine with it.
I'm not a fan of all the stuff on the pull down notifications. I wish I could get rid of the S Finer and Quick connect row.

I have created a thread which tracks all the issues with the device plus I update the battery stats on a daily basis..
lets see how it goes,..battery is a hit or miss..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-galaxy-s6-edge/help/issues-battery-life-tracker-t3070349

Im coming from the S3 and I'm glad I waited for something superior like the S6. I probably wouldnt had upgraded if I had a Note 4. The S6 is true replacement for the S3 or either of the other S's. The UX is smooth with an occasional random drag once in awhile, to avoid lag just clear your recents, clear ram and don't turn off background processes under developers options; also disable whatever you dont need thats taking up excessive ram. Its too early to make a call on battery life, but im assuming it would be similar to my S3 on stock battery, which is fine given the resoltion of the screen compare to the S3.

Came from Galaxy S5.
Loving it so far! Received mine yesterday

allendj81 said:
Im coming from the S3 and I'm glad I waited for something superior like the S6. I probably wouldnt had upgraded if I had a Note 4. The S6 is true replacement for the S3 or either of the other S's. The UX is smooth with an occasional random drag once in awhile, to avoid lag just clear your recents, clear ram and don't turn off background processes under developers options; also disable whatever you dont need thats taking up excessive ram. Its too early to make a call on battery life, but im assuming it would be similar to my S3 on stock battery, which is fine given the resoltion of the screen compare to the S3.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hard to believe you would have to do those steps with a phone like this. Have you noticed a certain amount of ram required for smooth use? Have you noticed what apps seem to cause the lag more than others?

Trev420 said:
Hard to believe you would have to do those steps with a phone like this. Have you noticed a certain amount of ram required for smooth use? Have you noticed what apps seem to cause the lag more than others?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Disableing apps is just something I do anyway to prevent them from keeping unneccesary cached ram and Ive noticed it helps. Ive noticed that if ram is kept at 80 to 85% is best. Greenify would help minimize ram use by hybernating apps without disabling them, but I dont want to root just yet.

allendj81 said:
Disableing apps is just something I do anyway to prevent them from keeping unneccesary cached ram and Ive noticed it helps. Ive noticed that if ram is kept at 80 to 85% is best. Greenify would help minimize ram use by hybernating apps without disabling them, but I dont want to root just yet.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hard to believe people still believe that unused ram is a good thing on the Android os. Unused ram is wasted ram.
Sent from my SM-G925T using Tapatalk

MacTheRipperr said:
Hard to believe people still believe that unused ram is a good thing on the Android os. Unused ram is wasted ram.
Sent from my SM-G925T using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Unused hardware is good for battery. If all ram is occupied all the time then its not possible to run heavy apps as the phone will start lagging.
Sent from my SM-N9005 using XDA Free mobile app

MacTheRipperr said:
Hard to believe people still believe that unused ram is a good thing on the Android os. Unused ram is wasted ram.
Sent from my SM-G925T using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So far whatever I disable has worked for me! I can report that yesterday I completed the first battery cycle and that it lasted from 9am to 1am and still had 15% left battery with a total screen on time of 4 hours. From 9am to 530p I was at work using wifi (no wifi calling enable) and poor signal due to the place where I work (a hospital). From 630p to 11p cell was on stand by most of the time at which battery was held constant in straigth line. I keep syncing and location settings off all the time, no push notifications from FB or TWT or any social media app. I do use whatsapp, text, fb,twt and chrome a lot thru the day along with family a few times a day. So all in all, its pretty moderate usage and so far Im satisfied with the battery.

bubblebuddyi said:
How are you liking the Edge so far? Today will be my first full day with a white 64gb, so far it's been great. I spent yesterday setting it up, kind of a pain coming from an N6.
I haven't noticed any issues, just small software stuff. Occasionally the phone will lag behind for a split second, and for some reason Chrome will not stay open in the multitasking. Even if you switch immediately back, it refreshes the page.
Build quality is great though, feels better and safer than the N6.
Anyone have any tips and tricks?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Came from the Note 4 and the S6 is easily the best phone I have ever used. I work at Tmobile and have owned everything from the Sidekick, blackberry, iPhones and androids. I have never owned a phone this blazing fast before. I seriously tried to make it lock up the first day I owned it and couldn't. Silky smooth and looks amazing. I think Samsung finally knocked it out of the park

robamacaf said:
Came from the Note 4 and the S6 is easily the best phone I have ever used. I work at Tmobile and have owned everything from the Sidekick, blackberry, iPhones and androids. I have never owned a phone this blazing fast before. I seriously tried to make it lock up the first day I owned it and couldn't. Silky smooth and looks amazing. I think Samsung finally knocked it out of the park
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Same here coming from a Note 4 to the S6 Edge on day 3. Most Note 4 owners think the S6 is a downgrade. S6 does do somethings better. I don't care about the s-pen, SD slot and removable battery. I had a Jump to use and love new designs + the free year of Netflix is nice. I like that I don't even really feel my phone in my shorts since the Edge ridiculously thin. I don't work for T-mobile but they know me by name. Lol. I left Samsung after the Note 2 because I was tired of the same old designs. Went LG and had the G2,G3, Flex. Came back to Samsung for fhe Note 4 and now with Edge. Samsung finally listened to people and made a very nice looking phone with excellent build quality.

Wow
Firstly I came from the Nexus 5.
Next, I bought this phone 100% off the reviews, I haven't seen one in person until it came in. When mine came in and I saw the screen and the pictures it took, it surprised me. The screen looks so amazing, My GF has the Note 4 and it somehow looks better than her phone. I have the S6 Edge, probably won't use it that much, But I use twitch and Youtube a lot so hopefully they update that app with some useful Edge features. While the fingerprint sensor was a pain to setup, it has worked flawlessly with no hiccups thus far. Phone itself looks really really beautiful. I'm glad I made this purchase. If you are on the fence, try one out. You will be amazed.