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Bootloader ??

I am trying to understand if the 8s has an unlocked bootloader.

x8052 said:
I am trying to understand if the 8s has an unlocked bootloader.
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Hmm.
I think it have.
CID (Country ID) is locked to 8S.
To check CID, turn off phone, wait sec and push together Vol+ and Vol- with Power button till CID table load.
If You wish to go out, just push Power and voila...

Well mine CID appears to be HTC__032

PiGeonCZ said:
Well mine CID appears to be HTC__032
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mine is : HTC__E11
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megasounds said:
mine is : HTC__E11
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Mine is CID-TIM__401
it is an italian HTC 8s branded by TIM (italian mobile operator)

I have cid-bm___001, i need chance this... can help me?

The HTC__032 CID is from the international version of the phone.
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[INFO] For those lucky One X S-OFF owners

Hi One X xda'ers
To start off this is NOT a thread talking about how to gain S-OFF, Why HTC should give us S-OFF or any other type discussions that have been covered before. This is for information concerning existing One X International Tegra S-OFF devices.
I thought i would create this to help those with an S-OFF device as most instructions tend to concentrate on S-ON.. It may also be useful on that glorious day when everyone can get S-OFF .
Following is a list of statements that I hope are useful.
1. There are a limited number of factory S-OFF devices out there.
2. There is currently no way to S-OFF your One X S-ON device at home. Only the odd Russian or Chinese shop can S-OFF for a charge.
3. The process for rooting and installing custom recoveries and roms is the same as for s on devices.
4. Even with S-OFF you must still unlock your bootloader via HTCDev if you want to install custom roms and root.
5. Even with S-OFF when you re-lock your bootloader it states that its ***RELOCKED*** same as an S-ON device.
6. S-OFF devices can write the boot.img from a ROM.zip from within custom recovery so you dont need to use fastboot commands separately. EDIT: not all devs atempt to flash the boot.img in install scripts even though it would work for the soff few. If Rom does not boot or radios don't work then flash the boot.img using pc as usual.
7. Yes this means you don't actually need a PC to install a ROM with some rpm zips.
8. For this same reason you can restore a nandroid from recovery and not worry about separately flashing the boot.img.
9. S-OFF devices should have Super CID-11111111. This means you can flash any firmware for any CID. Be Careful as it may also let you flash incorrect firmware from another device and bork it (not sure).
10. Ive seen one report that an RUU exe file will not effect your S-OFF status. I have not tried it.
So the key benefits are as follows:
1. Being able to flash boot.img from the phone only without using a PC and fastboot commands.
2. Not getting stuck waiting for a particular firmware update to become available for your CID.
So to all those S-ON'ers with S-OFF envy its not all that much better especially now a lot of CID's have JB supported firmware !
Im no expert so if anyone sees anything wrong or can offer other info\tips please let me know. Hope this helps.
cheers.

Not all of us we have jb,i'm stuck on hboot 0.97 I can not install even cyangen mod
Enviado desde mi HTC One X

Are you sure about the lock thing? I think there was a flag that you change and then the bootloader shows LOCKED agaib
On the road using my HOX

Ivanovic said:
Are you sure about the lock thing? I think there was a flag that you change and then the bootloader shows LOCKED agaib
On the road using my HOX
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If anyone knows how to change that flag I'll be happy to try it. I've done fastboot oem lock and it shows as relocked.
Sent from my HTC One X

Check this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2034060
On the road using my HOX

Ivanovic said:
Check this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2034060
On the road using my HOX
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When I said happy to try it i may have been a bit rash .
Anyways, I pulled my mmcblk0p3 file as described but i cant see the HTCU bytes as described in a hex editor. I'll do some reading and see if I can get further. Thanks.
Sent from my HTC One X

I was gonna try it myself but i dont have an s-off device at the moment.Would you mine sharing the file with me? I would like to have a look!
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Ivanovic said:
I was gonna try it myself but i dont have an s-off device at the moment.Would you mine sharing the file with me? I would like to have a look!
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Sure, not at laptop anymore but will do when I get to it. I'm already unlocked so don't have a version to compare to before unlocking.
Sent from my HTC One X

herbie13 said:
Sure, not at laptop anymore but will do when I get to it. I'm already unlocked so don't have a version to compare to before unlocking.
Sent from my HTC One X
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Great! I m gonna try now to read the specific block using ADB and make a research since i am on relocked bootloader and then i ll compare both of them!
EDIT
Without root i cannot read that block so i will be waiting for your file to make tests :/
The flag location has been reported to be the same on HTC One S and One XL. Time to add our phone on the list

Ivanovic said:
Great! I m gonna try now to read the specific block using ADB and make a research since i am on relocked bootloader and then i ll compare both of them!
EDIT
Without root i cannot read that block so i will be waiting for your file to make tests :/
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Pm'd
Sent from my HTC One X

Would be nice if we could truly relock s-off hox...
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Fastboot OEM writesecureflag 0 or 1 2 3 ???
Or this will just s-on maybee dont know
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feraay said:
Fastboot OEM writesecureflag 0 or 1 2 3 ???
Or this will just s-on maybee dont know
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This is just for s-on
On the road using my HOX

how much ?
herbie13 said:
Hi One X xda'ers
To start off this is NOT a thread talking about how to gain S-OFF, Why HTC should give us S-OFF or any other type discussions that have been covered before. This is for information concerning existing One X International Tegra S-OFF devices.
I thought i would create this to help those with an S-OFF device as most instructions tend to concentrate on S-ON.. It may also be useful on that glorious day when everyone can get S-OFF .
Following is a list of statements that I hope are useful.
1. There are a limited number of factory S-OFF devices out there.
2. There is currently no way to S-OFF your One X S-ON device at home.
3. Only the odd Russian or Chinese shop can S-OFF for a charge.
4. Even with S-OFF you must still unlock your bootloader via HTCDev if you want to install custom roms and root.
5. Even with S-OFF when you re-lock your bootloader it states that its ***RELOCKED*** same as an S-ON device.
6. S-OFF devices can write the boot.img from a ROM.zip from within custom recovery so you dont need to use fastboot commands separately.
7. Yes this means you don't actually need a PC to install a ROM.
8. For this same reason you can restore a nandroid from recovery and not worry about separately flashing the boot.img.
9. S-OFF devices should have Super CID-11111111. This means you can flash any firmware for any CID. Be Careful as it may also let you flash incorrect firmware from another device and bork it (not sure).
10. Ive seen one report that an RUU exe file will not effect your S-OFF status. I have not tried it.
So the key benefits are as follows:
1. Being able to flash boot.img from the phone only without using a PC and fastboot commands.
2. Not getting stuck waiting for a particular firmware update to become available for your CID.
So to all those S-ON'ers with S-OFF envy its not all that much better especially now a lot of CID's have JB supported firmware !
Im no expert so if anyone sees anything wrong or can offer other info\tips please let me know. Hope this helps.
cheers.
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how much are ppls wiling to pay for s-off one x ? i have 1...

May you must do fastboot OEM lock in another OEM mode ??
Somethink like trip told :
"@TripNRaVeR: If anyone wants to try, here are some reboot oem modes commands; oem-11, oem-33, oem-77, oem-88"
May you are able in another OEM mode to lock the device??
nitrous² said:
If you use "adb reboot oem-34"
Code:
(bootloader) version: 0.5a
(bootloader) version-bootloader: 1.39.0000
(bootloader) version-baseband: 5.1204.162.29
(bootloader) version-cpld: None
(bootloader) version-microp: None
(bootloader) version-main: 3.14.401.31
(bootloader) serialno: SH26xxxxxxxx
(bootloader) imei: xxxxx60xx1xxxx0
(bootloader) product: endeavoru
(bootloader) platform: HBOOT-T30S
(bootloader) modelid: PJ4610000
(bootloader) cidnum: HTC__102
(bootloader) battery-status: good
(bootloader) battery-voltage: 4004mV
(bootloader) devpower: 100
(bootloader) partition-layout: None
(bootloader) security: on
(bootloader) build-mode: SHIP
[COLOR="red"](bootloader) boot-mode: UNKNOWN[/COLOR]
(bootloader) commitno-bootloader: None
(bootloader) hbootpreupdate: 2
(bootloader) gencheckpt: 0
all: Done!
finished. total time: 0.825s
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Or may be just flash a ruu with unlocked bootloader and came out with locked like HTC sensation (i am not 100 sure but after flashing ruus with a soff sensation it was locked sometimes )??
Try To flash a other hboot Version a MFG or eng hboot
You soff guys are on MFG hboot or what?
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feraay said:
May you must do fastboot OEM lock in another OEM mode ??
Somethink like trip told :
"@TripNRaVeR: If anyone wants to try, here are some reboot oem modes commands; oem-11, oem-33, oem-77, oem-88"
May you are able in another OEM mode to lock the device??
Or may be just flash a ruu with unlocked bootloader and came out with locked like HTC sensation (i am not 100 sure but after flashing ruus with a soff sensation it was locked sometimes )??
Try To flash a other hboot Version a MFG or eng hboot
You soff guys are on MFG hboot or what?
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Personally I am using 1.39 hboot like most.
Sent from my HTC One X

herbie13 said:
Personally I am using 1.39 hboot like most.
Sent from my HTC One X
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No i mean the Typ of bootloader
My bootloader is pvt ship s on
xmoo said:
Posted by xmoo
Don't think so, he will loose customers if he does that
Some weird stuff regarding HBOOT.
I've seen some different stuff.
ENDEAVORU PVT SHIP S-ON RIL
ENDEAVORU PVT SHIP S-OFF RIL
ENDEAVORU PVT ENG S-OFF RIL
ENDEAVORU XE ENG S-OFF RH
ENDEAVORU PVT MFG RH
ENDEAVORU XE SHIP S-OFF RH
ENDEAVORU UNKNOWN ENG S-OFF RH
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You can may change the Kind of bootloader by flashing other hboot
But i belive better not switch between pvt and xe versions
I've heard that there are versions of endeavoru with other hardware!
supposedly the first units of the test phase or the sale at the other end of the world dont know excatly ?? This is the XE Version maybee
I dont mean
HTC one xl ( evita / At&tOnex)
I mean a different Version of HTC one x endeavoru!!!
Xe and pvt may have different boards or what else
But you must be able To change Typ of bootloader from ship To mfg or eng by flashing that Kind of hboot ??
MFG manufacturing HBOOT(debugging Rom?)
ENG engineering hboot
Ship the Consumer hboot
With soff you Must be able To do
Fastboot flash hboot hboot.img
you just take a hboot from a debugging or engineering rom and flash it
May With other bootloader you are able to lock
Did you try the different oem-modes??

feraay said:
No i mean the Typ of bootloader
My bootloader is pvt ship s on
You can may change the Kind of bootloader by flashing other hboot
But i belive better not switch between pvt and xe versions
I've heard that there are versions of endeavoru with other hardware!
supposedly the first units of the test phase or the sale at the other end of the world dont know excatly ?? This is the XE Version maybee
I dont mean
HTC one xl ( evita / At&tOnex)
I mean a different Version of HTC one x endeavoru!!!
Xe and pvt may have different boards or what else
But you must be able To change Typ of bootloader from ship To mfg or eng by flashing that Kind of hboot ??
MFG manufacturing HBOOT
ENG engineering hboot
Ship the Consumer hboot
With soff you Must be able To do
Fastboot flash hboot hboot.img
you just take a hboot from a debugging or engineering rom and flash it
May With other bootloader you are able to lock
Did you try the different oem-modes??
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Right ok, i have pvt ship s off rl. I would not know where to find a different type.
Guide me on the different oem modes, what do they mean and what do I do once in it? I don't need my phone to be locked status but happy to play.
Sent from my HTC One X

herbie13 said:
Right ok, i have pvt ship s off rl. I would not know where to find a different type.
Guide me on the different oem modes, what do they mean and what do I do once in it? I don't need my phone to be locked status but happy to play.
Sent from my HTC One X
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nobody knows it
adb reboot oem-xx
Or fastboot reboot oem-xx (not sure)
And when its bootet to the OEM mode just
Fastboot OEM lock
May be with soff you are able To Boot into even more OEM modes like oem-99 haha ^^

I found this - http://sadevil.org/blog/2012/12/23/manually-flashing-an-ota-update/
oem-78 is OEM update mode.
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No Support by Sunshine!

If Sunshine is the only way to achieve S-OFF, But my device isn't supported does this mean i just have to cry about my S-ON One M8?

If you are that disappointed then yes cry all you like ! If that's a disappointment you will cry about i wonder what you will do when you get a real disappointment in life ?!
They are working on a update maybe that will cheer you up

Araytha said:
If Sunshine is the only way to achieve S-OFF, But my device isn't supported does this mean i just have to cry about my S-ON One M8?
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Just so you know, The HTC One M7 was out for nearly 6 months without S-Off and it never stopped the developers form creating dozens of Roms and the development of the phone went on without any problems. All S-Off is really needed for is converting a phone to a different branding or carrier. Or to downgrade firmware. In most cases the phone will function and update just fine without s-off. All you need is an unlocked bootloader and custom recovery to enjoy most of the custom roms available to this device.

clsA said:
Just so you know, The HTC One M7 was out for nearly 6 months without S-Off and it never stopped the developers form creating dozens of Roms and the development of the phone went on without any problems. All S-Off is really needed for is converting a phone to a different branding or carrier. Or to downgrade firmware. In most cases the phone will function and update just fine without s-off. All you need is an unlocked bootloader and custom recovery to enjoy most of the custom roms available to this device.
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That was the main thing I needed, a new carrier. I'm sure it will happen eventually for my version just a matter of waiting for it!
already unlocked bootloader with custom recovery, running SlimKat atm, just the carrier issue.

Araytha said:
That was the main thing I needed, a new carrier. I'm sure it will happen eventually for my version just a matter of waiting for it!
already unlocked bootloader with custom recovery, running SlimKat atm, just the carrier issue.
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What is the phone not doing on your current carrier that you think a firmware / CID MID change will fix ?

Maybe he means SIM unlock it ?

clsA said:
What is the phone not doing on your current carrier that you think a firmware / CID MID change will fix ?
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Not updating fast enough and he rather wants an unlocked WWE International, WWE Asia, Developer Edition for faster updates? :cyclops:

Mr Hofs said:
Maybe he means SIM unlock it ?
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Exactly what I want, but also just want a fully unblocked M8. Prefer to have no restrictions what so ever.

Araytha said:
Exactly what I want, but also just want a fully unblocked M8. Prefer to have no restrictions what so ever.
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I have the Sim unlocked Developers Edition so I'm not sure whats needed for that. But yeah S-Off is nice even at $25. I hope they get it updated for you soon.

clsA said:
I have the Sim unlocked Developers Edition so I'm not sure whats needed for that. But yeah S-Off is nice even at $25. I hope they get it updated for you soon.
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Definitely worth it. No Issues paying for s-off. Hope they are working hard lay

I don't know what you're talking about that it won't work? FYI I'm running Viper Rom 3.2.1 and my device is supported. Or did you mean that you already bought the license and your phone says that it's still s-on?
Sent from my HTC One_M8

talpes said:
I don't know what you're talking about that it won't work? FYI I'm running Viper Rom 3.2.1 and my device is supported. Or did you mean that you already bought the license and your phone says that it's still s-on?
Sent from my HTC One_M8
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If you would have stopped at "I don't know what you're talking about", you would have been correct.

talpes said:
I don't know what you're talking about that it won't work? FYI I'm running Viper Rom 3.2.1 and my device is supported. Or did you mean that you already bought the license and your phone says that it's still s-on?
Sent from my HTC One_M8
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I don't get to that, it does testing and says that it won't work on my device thus won't let me in app purchase or enter a code.

Araytha said:
I don't get to that, it does testing and says that it won't work on my device thus won't let me in app purchase or enter a code.
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Flash ARHD or Maximus then try it.

xunholyx said:
If you would have stopped at "I don't know what you're talking about", you would have been correct.
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Thanks for correcting me, English isn't even my native language and I translated it from German so maybe that was my mistake

jsho31 said:
Flash ARHD or Maximus then try it.
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ARHD Still brings the same issue. It might be how new my phone is?
Fastboot GetVar All:
Code:
(bootloader) version: 0.5
(bootloader) version-bootloader: 3.19.0.0000
(bootloader) version-baseband: 1.22.21331147A1.29G
(bootloader) version-cpld: None
(bootloader) version-microp: None
(bootloader) version-main: 3.28.401.9
(bootloader) version-misc: PVT SHIP S-ON
(bootloader) serialno: SH4XXXXXXXXX
(bootloader) imei: 35733XXXXXXXXXX
(bootloader) imei2: Not Support
(bootloader) meid: 00000000000000
(bootloader) product: m8_ul
(bootloader) platform: hTCBmsm8974
(bootloader) modelid: 0P6B10000
(bootloader) cidnum: HTC__001
(bootloader) battery-status: good
(bootloader) battery-voltage: 0mV
(bootloader) partition-layout: Generic
(bootloader) security: on
(bootloader) build-mode: SHIP
(bootloader) boot-mode: FASTBOOT
(bootloader) commitno-bootloader: df77f8b7
(bootloader) hbootpreupdate: 11
(bootloader) gencheckpt: 0
help at all?

If all you desperately need sim unlock, and you're going to have to pay anyways, have you checked the usual sim unlock services? Most of those only cost like $10-15 and you'd get to switch carriers while you're waiting for sunshine to update.
With that and the right kernel/rom combo you'd get most of what s-off gets you anyways, with the exception of downgrading firmware, etc. but really how often are you going to do that? Just something to consider I suppose.

gokun said:
If all you desperately need sim unlock, and you're going to have to pay anyways, have you checked the usual sim unlock services? Most of those only cost like $10-15 and you'd get to switch carriers while you're waiting for sunshine to update.
With that and the right kernel/rom combo you'd get most of what s-off gets you anyways, with the exception of downgrading firmware, etc. but really how often are you going to do that? Just something to consider I suppose.
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Incorrect. You can't flash new firmware unless your MID and CID match the new version. With S-Off, you can always be on top of the new firmware from any carrier. (unless you are on Sprint or Verizon). For instance, AT&T is still on the old stuff. With S-Off, AT&T users can be on the newest 4.4.4
Also, I was on 4.4.4 (telus in canada) two months before my carrier updated. S-Off gives you full freedom.
Also, S-Off and SIM unlock are two totally separate things. So there is also that.

gokun said:
If all you desperately need sim unlock, and you're going to have to pay anyways, have you checked the usual sim unlock services? Most of those only cost like $10-15 and you'd get to switch carriers while you're waiting for sunshine to update.
With that and the right kernel/rom combo you'd get most of what s-off gets you anyways, with the exception of downgrading firmware, etc. but really how often are you going to do that? Just something to consider I suppose.
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Three services have said they can't get an unlock code for my M8... Can an M8 be HardLocked like a Sony M2? Does anyone know where I might find the unlock counter is present on HTC?

xunholyx said:
Incorrect. You can't flash new firmware unless your MID and CID match the new version. With S-Off, you can always be on top of the new firmware from any carrier. (unless you are on Sprint or Verizon). For instance, AT&T is still on the old stuff. With S-Off, AT&T users can be on the newest 4.4.4
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That's what I said though..."with the exception of downgrading firmware, etc" meaning you can't do that. So, I'm just saying, I wasn't incorrect. (but your post was still informative and helpful to many people I'm sure).
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Araytha said:
Three services have said they can't get an unlock code for my M8... Can an M8 be HardLocked like a Sony M2? Does anyone know where I might find the unlock counter is present on HTC?
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Most likely your phone just isn't in their databases yet. I ran into that exact same thing when I had my OneX+. It's basically just a waiting game until they get the new databases that have your code in them. Back when I had my X+ it took about 2-3 weeks before anyone got the newest databases. It sucks, but all you can really do at that point is just wait. Which, again, definitely sucks.

How to unroot htc one m8??(thanks Redpoint3)

I got an update from the factory but it wan't work tell i unroot my phone , how can i do that??
guys the problem is more then unroot the device if you have the time read the comments and post any help
thanks

"Themes and apps" is a really weird section to post your question in. I'll ask the mods to move it to "Q&A, Help" where it belongs.
To unroot, you need to restore a stock TWRP backup. Either one you made before rooting, or get one from here (and restore with the instructions):http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/help/tutorial-how-to-stock-stock-twrp-t3086860
Alternately, you can relock the bootloader and RUU (RUU will wipe the phone).

redpoint73 said:
"Themes and apps" is a really weird section to post your question in. I'll ask the mods to move it to "Q&A, Help" where it belongs.
To unroot, you need to restore a stock TWRP backup. Either one you made before rooting, or get one from here (and restore with the instructions):http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/help/tutorial-how-to-stock-stock-twrp-t3086860
Alternately, you can relock the bootloader and RUU (RUU will wipe the phone).
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Sorry man it was a miss click , how can I move it to other section?

jonasess said:
how can I move it to other section?
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You don't have the ability to move threads, after they are created. The mods can, and have already moved it to the right section (Q&A). It usually takes someone else to report the thread (which I did), and I don't think you can report your own thread.
But back to the topic at hand, I hope the info I posted was useful to you. Let us know if you have further questions.

redpoint73 said:
You don't have the ability to move threads, after they are created. The mods can, and have already moved it to the right section (Q&A). It usually takes someone else to report the thread (which I did), and I don't think you can report your own thread.
But back to the topic at hand, I hope the info I posted was useful to you. Let us know if you have further questions.
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Thanks men but there is one thing , the bootloader is already locked I didn't unlock it before , so I was wondering whether I have to unlock the bootloader and install CM13 room or not doing that and unroot the phone because may be there is a chance that the company send an update for 6.0
I only have two questions
Is there is an official update to 6.0 from HTC company?
Or should I go with CM13
Also is there are any risks in bootloader unlock?
I successfully unlocked the bootloader in lg g2 mini before and it was very easy without any big risks
And now with HTC one m8 I don't know if it is the same or not.

My responses below in red font:
jonasess said:
the bootloader is already locked I didn't unlock it before
How did you root? Was it kingroot, or similar root app?
so I was wondering whether I have to unlock the bootloader and install CM13 room or not doing that and unroot the phone because may be there is a chance that the company send an update for 6.0
Is there is an official update to 6.0 from HTC company?
Android 6 came to this phone a really long time ago, about a year ago (Dec 2015) for most M8 versions. If you didn't get the update, it may due to being rooted, which typically prevents OTA update.
Alternately, depending on what version M8 you have, you can just RUU to Marshmallow (Android 6) without unrooting (although it will wipe all data on the phone). Do you know your phone's CID, or at least provide the OS number on the bootloader screen? From that, I can possibly tell you if there is an RUU.
Or should I go with CM13
You're talking about 2 completely different things, unrooting to OTA, or installing a custom ROM. I can't make that decision for you, you need to do it yourself.
Also is there are any risks in bootloader unlock? Not really. The bootloader can still be relocked, and you can restore to stock. I don't recall seeing any brick reports from unlocking the bootloader. The critical "brick" partitions (hboot and radio) aren't accessed by unlocking the bootloader, and any partitions that are accessed (system, recovery, etc.), can be easily rewritten/repaired if anything goes wrong.
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My responses below in red font:
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It wasn't me because i got the phone from a friend , anyway the phone is rooted but the bootloader is locked because when i reboot to the bootloader mode i find it locked
about cid it's 11111111
OS-1.29.708.4
anyway how to unroot the phone , i'm going to try if it is possible to get the official 6.0 from the factory or not
if not i will unlock the bootloader and try to install ROM
so if it is possible i need the way how to unroot the phone and also how to unlock the bootloader
thanks

jonasess said:
anyway the phone is rooted but the bootloader is locked because when i reboot to the bootloader mode i find it locked
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This doesn't tell me anything, you didn't already post before.
jonasess said:
about cid it's 11111111
OS-1.29.708.4
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I don't recognize that OS version number. I Googled it, and I think you have the M7, not the M8.

redpoint73 said:
This doesn't tell me anything, you didn't already post before.
I don't recognize that OS version number. I Googled it, and I think you have the M7, not the M8.
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i didn't get it , because there is a different between m8 and m7
m7 contain only one camera in the back
m8 contain 2 camera in the back
also the m7 doesn't support Card slot , m8 does
and a lot of other different
how could m8 phone contain an os of m7?

This all the information from bootloader mode
*** software status : official ***
*** locked ***
M8_UL_CA PVT SHIP S-OFF
CID - 11111111
HBOOT-3.19.0.0000
[email protected]
openDSP-V47.2.2-00564-118974_F0.1024
OS-1.29.708.4
2MMC-boot 2048MB
mar 20 2015,03:01:11.90025771
Also when i use an app to get the information it gives the CID CWS_001
and the OS version is LRX22C
Also the app shows that the bootloader version is 3.19.0.0000

jonasess said:
This all the information from bootloader mode
*** software status : official ***
*** locked ***
M8_UL_CA PVT SHIP S-OFF
CID - 11111111
HBOOT-3.19.0.0000
[email protected]
openDSP-V47.2.2-00564-118974_F0.1024
OS-1.29.708.4
2MMC-boot 2048MB
mar 20 2015,03:01:11.90025771
Also when i use an app to get the information it gives the CID CWS_001
and the OS version is LRX22C
Also the app shows that the bootloader version is 3.19.0.0000
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post the result of ( fastboot getvar all ) after removing seialno and imei
this output info will be useful to identify the right path you should take
and the info you already posted is a little mixed up NOT CORRECT
Sent from my HTC M8 using XDA Labs

ahmed.ismael said:
post the result of fastboot getvar all after removing seialno and imei
this output info will be useful to identify the right path you should take
and the info you already posted is a little mixed up NOT CORRECT
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What should I do , where can I get these information? From an app or..?

jonasess said:
What should I do , where can I get these information? From an app or..?
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*get a working adb&fastboot by going to this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48915118#post48915118
after installing it with success
*reboot to fastboot and connect your device to pc
*open cmd window
* type ( fastboot getvar all ) and press enter
*post the result here after removing serialno and imei
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ahmed.ismael said:
*get a working adb&fastboot by going to this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48915118#post48915118
after installing it with success
*reboot to fastboot and connect your device to pc
*open cmd window
* type ( fastboot getvar all ) and press enter
*post the result here after removing serialno and imei
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Thank I will

This is all the informations
(bootloader) version: 0.5
(bootloader) version-bootloader: 3.19.0.0000
(bootloader) version-baseband: [email protected]
(bootloader) version-cpld: None
(bootloader) version-microp: None
(bootloader) version-main: 1.29.708.4
(bootloader) version-misc: PVT SHIP S-OFF
(bootloader) serialno:
(bootloader) imei:
(bootloader) imei2: Not Support
(bootloader) meid: 00000000000000
(bootloader) product: m8_ul_ca
(bootloader) platform: hTCBmsm8974
(bootloader) modelid: 0P6B12000
(bootloader) cidnum: 11111111
(bootloader) battery-status: good
(bootloader) battery-voltage: 0mV
(bootloader) partition-layout: Generic
(bootloader) security: off
(bootloader) build-mode: SHIP
(bootloader) boot-mode: FASTBOOT
(bootloader) commitno-bootloader: 7f8e91a3
(bootloader) hbootpreupdate: 11
(bootloader) gencheckpt: 0
all: Done!
finished. total time: 0.021s

This phone is a mess. Its the AT&T version (m8_ul_ca), but its been rooted, s-off, SuperCID, and some other firmware installed, or partially installed.
Reason I say "partially installed" is that the firmware number (version-main) 1.29.708.4 isn't one I recognize. But 1.xx main versions typically correspond to KitKat on this device. Which doesn't correspond to hboot 3.19 (which is for Lollipop or Marshmallow), nor the radio number [email protected] which is for AT&T Lollipop firmware.
You should re-baseline this device by RUU. But which RUU is the question. Since you have s-off and SuperCID, you run most RUUs.
The main version "708" corresponds to the Hong Kong version. Is that where you are located? What bands does your carrier use for 3G, and for LTE? These things will determine with RUU to use.

redpoint73 said:
This phone is a mess. Its the AT&T version (m8_ul_ca), but its been rooted, s-off, SuperCID, and some other firmware installed, or partially installed.
Reason I say "partially installed" is that the firmware number (version-main) 1.29.708.4 isn't one I recognize. But 1.xx main versions typically correspond to KitKat on this device. Which doesn't correspond to hboot 3.19 (which is for Lollipop or Marshmallow), nor the radio number [email protected] which is for AT&T Lollipop firmware.
You should re-baseline this device by RUU. But which RUU is the question. Since you have s-off and SuperCID, you run most RUUs.
The main version "708" corresponds to the Hong Kong version. Is that where you are located? What bands does your carrier use for 3G, and for LTE? These things will determine with RUU to use.
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َAm not sure but i guess it's not AT&T version because i can use any SIM card i want , AT&T version use specific SIM card i guess !!
Any way i'm not from Hong Kong , i use MOBILS SIM card (From the company MOBILIS) for 3g and LTE .
Also i forgot to motion that when i go to software update i find that there is a system update (Software update :4.16.401.13 (57.45 MB)) when i download it , it wan't install because it says (We determine that your phone maybe running a modified version pf its system software . for your protection , we cannot update your phone . please revert your phone to the official htc system software to update your phone.

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jonasess said:
ÙŽAm not sure but i guess it's not AT&T version because i can use any SIM card i want , AT&T version use specific SIM card i guess !!
You shouldn't be "guessing' anything, and your guesses would be wrong, anyway. As I've already stated, the product ID m8_ul_ca means its US variant AT&T (that product ID also US Developer's Edition, but ATT is much more common). That much is an absolute fact, and not a guess on my part. Being SIM locked or not, has little bearing on what version you have. Any of these versions can be SIM unlocked with the proper code. So stop guessing at answers, as its not particularly useful.
I'll also guess that the back cover has been replaced. As the AT&T version has the AT&T "globe" logo on the back. We've seen a good number of devices "debranded" by having the back covers replaced to remove carrier logos. I'll guess it has a model/carrier number on the back cover, that also doesn't match any of the getvar info.
Any way i'm not from Hong Kong , i use MOBILS SIM card (From the company MOBILIS) for 3g and LTE .
None of this tells me anything useful. What country are you actually from? More importantly, what specific band (or bands) number does your carrier use for 3G, and what band(s) do they use for LTE?
Also i forgot to motion that when i go to software update i find that there is a system update (Software update :4.16.401.13 (57.45 MB)) when i download it , it wan't install because it says (We determine that your phone maybe running a modified version pf its system software . for your protection , we cannot update your phone . please revert your phone to the official htc system software to update your phone.
The carrier version of the OTA is Euro (401) so it won't install on a phone what has firmware for the Hong Kong version (708). Additionally, you have to install the OTAs sequentially, without skipping. So if you currently have 1.xx version, you can't skip 2.xx and 3.xx and go straight to 4.xx. In other words, there is no way you will get that OTA to install in your current configuration.
Which is why I am suggesting RUU. The RUUs do not need to be installed sequentially. Its a complete re-image, and it would also fix the mismatch you have between the main version (HK) and the hboot, radio (AT&T Lollipop).
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I'm from Algeria , i guess my country is not supported from the HTC company .
Also as i said i use MOBILIS sim (http://www.mobilis.dz/) i didn't try the 3g or 4g because i use wifi to connect to the internet
Another qeustion : is that mean i can't unlock the bootloader and install the recovery to install CM rooms
In other word there is a risk for that?
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thanks for the help

jonasess said:
Also as i said i use MOBILIS sim (http://www.mobilis.dz/) i didn't try the 3g or 4g because i use wifi to connect to the internet
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Again, you are providing info that doesn't answer the questions I asked; and is not particularly useful. You didn't try 3G or 4G. So what? Does that mean you never want to use them, and will never use cell data? Or otherwise?
The following states that Mobilis uses 2100 MHz for 3g, but doesn't state info on 4G: http://www.worldtimezone.com/gsm.html
You can typically call your carrier, and get the answer to the question.
jonasess said:
Another qeustion : is that mean i can't unlock the bootloader and install the recovery to install CM rooms
In other word there is a risk for that?
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You should be able to unlock the bootloader. But whether you can run any current ROMs is questionable.
Your firmware is a mess. The old firmware number 1.xx won't work with any current ROMs. You should fix your firmware first. But again, by RUU and I need more info before I can direct you to an RUU.
Also the version TWRP custom recovery you will need to flash custom ROMs, depend on what firmware version you have. And your firmware is all screwed up (seems to be partially modified) so again, its best you fix the firmware by RUU before proceeding with anything else.

Just got 3 HTC One M8 phones (2 AT&T and 1 Sprint)

Just recently got a bunch of HTC phones. Three of them are HTC One M8. Two are from AT&T and the other is from Sprint. Two already had Android 6.0 on them. One of the AT&T phones had Android 4.4.2 on it. I followed this guide here by ckpv5 (thanks bro ) and now have Android 6.0 on all 3 phones.
I just finished unlocking the boot loader through HTCDev for all 3. I'd like to make a back up of the stock recovery. How can I do this? Here's the results of fastboot getvar all for each phone.
First AT&T HTC One M8 (Came with Android 6)
Code:
version: 0.5
version-bootloader: 3.19.0.0000
version-baseband: [email protected]
version-cpld: None
version-microp: None
version-main: 6.20.502.5
version-misc: PVT SHIP S-ON
product: m8_ul_ca
platform: hTCBmsm8974
modelid: 0P6B12000
cidnum: CWS__001
battery-status: good
battery-voltage: 0mV
partition-layout: Generic
security: on
build-mode: SHIP
boot-mode: FASTBOOT
commitno-bootloader: 205bdca3
hbootpreupdate: 11
gencheckpt: 0
Second AT&T HTC One M8 (Came with Android 4.4.2 now updated to 6.0, unlocked, relocked then unlocked bootloader again)
Code:
version: 0.5
version-bootloader: 3.19.0.0000
version-baseband: [email protected]
version-cpld: None
version-microp: None
version-main: 6.20.502.5
version-misc: PVT SHIP S-ON
product: m8_ul_ca
platform: hTCBmsm8974
modelid: 0P6B12000
cidnum: CWS__001
battery-status: good
battery-voltage: 0mV
partition-layout: Generic
security: on
build-mode: SHIP
boot-mode: FASTBOOT
commitno-bootloader: 205bdca3
hbootpreupdate: 11
gencheckpt: 0
Sprint HTC One M8 (Came with Android 6)
Code:
version: 0.5
version-bootloader: 3.19.0.0000
version-baseband: 1.09.20.1112
version-cpld: None
version-microp: None
version-main: 6.20.651.3
version-misc: PVT SHIP S-ON
product: m8_whl
platform: hTCBmsm8974
modelid: 0P6B70000
cidnum: SPCS_001
battery-status: good
battery-voltage: 0mV
partition-layout: Generic
security: on
build-mode: SHIP
boot-mode: FASTBOOT
commitno-bootloader: 205bdca3
hbootpreupdate: 11
gencheckpt: 0
What are the appropriate versions of TWRP and Root that can be installed on each phone? Will any of the TWRP from here work on both the AT&T and Sprint variants? Or do I need a specific version for AT&T and another for Sprint? And, same question for Root, can I use this root listed in the FAQ on all 3 phones or do I need a different one for each carrier?
Is the Sunshine method the only way of obtaining s-off for all variants of the M8? Would I need to s-off if I wanted to replace icons for built it apps, change the color of the dialer, and change bootup & shutdown animations? Or can all that be done with s-on?
Also, is it possible to use the Sprint variant on the AT&T or T-Mobile network with LTE?

The5thSurvivor said:
Just recently got a bunch of HTC phones. Three of them are HTC One M8. Two are from AT&T and the other is from Sprint. Two already had Android 6.0 on them. One of the AT&T phones had Android 4.4.2 on it. I followed this guide here by ckpv5 (thanks bro ) and now have Android 6.0 on all 3 phones.
I just finished unlocking the boot loader through HTCDev for all 3. I'd like to make a back up of the stock recovery. How can I do this? Here's the results of fastboot getvar all for each phone.
First AT&T HTC One M8 (Came with Android 6)
Second AT&T HTC One M8 (Came with Android 4.4.2 now updated to 6.0, unlocked, relocked then unlocked bootloader again)
Sprint HTC One M8 (Came with Android 6)
What are the appropriate versions of TWRP and Root that can be installed on each phone? Will any of the TWRP from here work on both the AT&T and Sprint variants? Or do I need a specific version for AT&T and another for Sprint? And, same question for Root, can I use this root listed in the FAQ on all 3 phones or do I need a different one for each carrier?
Is the Sunshine method the only way of obtaining s-off for all variants of the M8? Would I need to s-off if I wanted to replace icons for built it apps, change the color of the dialer, and change bootup & shutdown animations? Or can all that be done with s-on?
Also, is it possible to use the Sprint variant on the AT&T or T-Mobile network with LTE?
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I think twrp in universal and for root use majisk and to my understanding you need s-off to gain system access to all partions on the device and super cid to flash any rom from any region. I myself haven't rooted or anything yet I'm just getting everything I need then doing it all in one go hopefully soon I'll be fully custom with my m8.

The5thSurvivor said:
What are the appropriate versions of TWRP and Root that can be installed on each phone? Will any of the TWRP from here work on both the AT&T and Sprint variants? Or do I need a specific version for AT&T and another for Sprint?
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I would recommend using the latest TWRP 3.2.3-1 from here: https://dl.twrp.me/m8/
TWRP for the GSM version M8 (such as AT&T) was merged with CDMA versions (such as Sprint) some time ago. But it is worth mentioning that prior to that marge (pretty old, somewhere around TWRP 2.7-something) flashing the wrong TWRP to the CDMA M8 will brick the phone (if I remember properly).
But again, stick to the latest TWRP, and you will be fine.
The5thSurvivor said:
And, same question for Root, can I use this root listed in the FAQ on all 3 phones or do I need a different one for each carrier?
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I would suggest latest Magisk, or alternately SuperSU.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/official-magisk-v7-universal-systemless-t3473445
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/supersu/stable-2016-09-01supersu-v2-78-release-t3452703
SU (versus SuperSU) is not commonly used on this device, and the version you linked is very old (2013) and probably will cause problems.
The5thSurvivor said:
Is the Sunshine method the only way of obtaining s-off for all variants of the M8? Would I need to s-off if I wanted to replace icons for built it apps, change the color of the dialer, and change bootup & shutdown animations? Or can all that be done with s-on?
Also, is it possible to use the Sprint variant on the AT&T or T-Mobile network with LTE?
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Sunshine is essentially the only way to s-off. Okay technically, you can use javacard, which is much more expensive, so that is not really a "solution".
But you do NOT need s-off to do any of the things you mentioned. They can all be done s-on. S-off only protects certain partitions (hboot, radio, etc.). What you describe all reside on the system partition, and can therefore be changed while s-on (with root).
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Also, is it possible to use the Sprint variant on the AT&T or T-Mobile network with LTE?
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From what I can recall, the Sprint version will work on foreign networks, but can be problematic trying to use it on ATT or TMOB. You can search around the forums, as I'm sure it's been discussed in the past (may need to look in the Sprint M8 forum section).
Whatever you do, do NOT try to flash an AT&T RUU or firmware to the Sprint device. This will result in a radio brick (possibly permanent)! There are some safeguards to prevent this (you need s-off, change CID, etc.) but don't even go there!!!
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There is a good deal of misinformation here (my comments in red font).
ttocs99 said:
I think twrp in universal Mostly true (TWRP is unified for most versions of M8 . . .now), but reference my comment above regarding older versions of TWRP.
and to my understanding you need s-off to gain system access to all partions on the device
You need s-off to gain access to all partitions yes. But I'm not sure why you say "system access". This is confusing, since "system" is the name of an actual partition (the ROM or OS) which in fact does not need s-off to access. As mentioned above, the aspects of the device that the OP wants to mod, only require access to the system partition, and you only need an unlocked bootloader and root for that (s-off not needed).
and super cid to flash any rom from any region. To be clear, you only need to change CID if you want to flash a stock RUU or stock firmware (official HTC files). By doing so, you can "convert" the region of some versions of the M8 by changing CID/MID and flashing the corresponding RUU. But as mentioned, above, this is also dangerous for some versions of the M8 (Sprint, Verizon). So when you say "any ROM for any region" you need to be careful. Also, custom ROMs don't require s-off or changing CID/MID.
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redpoint73 said:
I would recommend using the latest TWRP 3.2.3-1 from here: https://dl.twrp.me/m8/
TWRP for the GSM version M8 (such as AT&T) was merged with CDMA versions (such as Sprint) some time ago. But it is worth mentioning that prior to that marge (pretty old, somewhere around TWRP 2.7-something) flashing the wrong TWRP to the CDMA M8 will brick the phone (if I remember properly).
But again, stick to the latest TWRP, and you will be fine.
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Thank you. I'm glad you mention the merge. As I had a hunch it was carrier specific, but glad now it's not.
redpoint73 said:
I would suggest latest Magisk, or alternately SuperSU.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/official-magisk-v7-universal-systemless-t3473445
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/supersu/stable-2016-09-01supersu-v2-78-release-t3452703
SU (versus SuperSU) is not commonly used on this device, and the version you linked is very old (2013) and probably will cause problems.
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Wow, glad I didn't end up going with that older version then. Thanks
redpoint73 said:
Sunshine is essentially the only way to s-off. Okay technically, you can use javacard, which is much more expensive, so that is not really a "solution".
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How come there are no ways for a a user to do this themselves?
redpoint73 said:
But you do NOT need s-off to do any of the things you mentioned. They can all be done s-on. S-off only protects certain partitions (hboot, radio, etc.). What you describe all reside on the system partition, and can therefore be changed while s-on (with root).
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That's awesome. I won't bother with s-off then.
redpoint73 said:
From what I can recall, the Sprint version will work on foreign networks, but can be problematic trying to use it on ATT or TMOB. You can search around the forums, as I'm sure it's been discussed in the past (may need to look in the Sprint M8 forum section).
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WIll do. Thanks again :good:
redpoint73 said:
Whatever you do, do NOT try to flash an AT&T RUU or firmware to the Sprint device. This will result in a radio brick (possibly permanent)! There are some safeguards to prevent this (you need s-off, change CID, etc.) but don't even go there!!!
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Interesting. That kinda sucks. In my opinion things like that make the GSM/unlocked variants better than the CDMA variants. I will get more of these phones, but I don't think I'll bother with Sprint or Verizon.
redpoint73 said:
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redpoint73 said:
There is a good deal of misinformation here (my comments in red font).
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And thanks yet again for the clarification. :highfive:

The5thSurvivor said:
How come there are no ways for a a user to do this themselves?
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I believe you are talking about previous "free" methods to s-off like firewater. You aren't "doing it yourself". You are simply installing a hack that was created by talented developers; whether you are talking about a "free" method like firewater, or a paid app like sunshine. Of which the two methods (firewater vs. sunshine) were in fact developed by the same team.
Where that development team was previously satisfied with voluntary donations, and otherwise free contribution to the community; they went a different way with sunshine. There are pages and pages discussing this on other forum threads, so no real need to discuss it in depth here (just use xda search, and you will find long threads on the topic). But in short, the team spent hundreds of hours, and bricked multiple devices in order to develop sunshine. So they decided to recoup some of those losses by making sunshine a paid app.
Since they went the paid route with sunshine, they took the firewater server offline (the firewater hack required an online server component to work). Since obviously, a lot of folks aren't going to pay for something they can get for free. All those resources belonged to the firewater/sunshine team; so they are within their rights to make that decision.
Not everyone is happy about that. But essentially, if you really "need" s-off, then pay for sunshine. And as we already discussed, most folks that think they "need" s-off, in fact do not really need it at all.
If you truly want to "do it yourself", then you are more than welcome to spend the hundreds (thousands?) of hours and brick some devices to try to create your own s-off method. But I don't think that is what you are talking about.
The5thSurvivor said:
Interesting. That kinda sucks. In my opinion things like that make the GSM/unlocked variants better than the CDMA variants. I will get more of these phones, but I don't think I'll bother with Sprint or Verizon.
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Your opinion on this is correct. In fact, the CDMA versions are terrible for most folks, for reasons you are now seeing. My opinion, they are only suitable for those using the specific US networks (Sprint, Verizon). Otherwise, I strongly recommend anyone else against getting CDMA version M8 phones.

redpoint73 said:
I believe you are talking about previous "free" methods to s-off like firewater. You aren't "doing it yourself". You are simply installing a hack that was created by talented developers; whether you are talking about a "free" method like firewater, or a paid app like sunshine. Of which the two methods (firewater vs. sunshine) were in fact developed by the same team.
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What I meant by doing it ourselves was because I thought there would have been a similar method of obtaining s-off like there is for the HTC Sensation. I used a method that required precise timing using a paperclip, don't remember the exact details as it's been over a year since I did that. I initially thought I'd have to do something similar with the newer HTC phones. I wasn't aware of any s-off method for this phone until just recently.
redpoint73 said:
Where that development team was previously satisfied with voluntary donations, and otherwise free contribution to the community; they went a different way with sunshine. There are pages and pages discussing this on other forum threads, so no real need to discuss it in depth here (just use xda search, and you will find long threads on the topic). But in short, the team spent hundreds of hours, and bricked multiple devices in order to develop sunshine. So they decided to recoup some of those losses by making sunshine a paid app.
Since they went the paid route with sunshine, they took the firewater server offline (the firewater hack required an online server component to work). Since obviously, a lot of folks aren't going to pay for something they can get for free. All those resources belonged to the firewater/sunshine team; so they are within their rights to make that decision.
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That makes sense. Especially if they purchased all the devices that they bricked brand new and of course not to mention the time they spent on their work.
redpoint73 said:
Not everyone is happy about that. But essentially, if you really "need" s-off, then pay for sunshine. And as we already discussed, most folks that think they "need" s-off, in fact do not really need it at all.
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For me, the funds is not an issue. If there's something I need/want, I will pay it if there is no free alternative. The reason I thought that I needed s-off is because there is a thread that mentions if you need access to the system partition (which is where you mention that everything I'd like to mod is located) you must be s-off on the phone. But if I don't need it to do that, then more than likely I won't bother with s-off. Though I would like to change the splash screen image as well, but it's not a huge deal.
redpoint73 said:
If you truly want to "do it yourself", then you are more than welcome to spend the hundreds (thousands?) of hours and brick some devices to try to create your own s-off method. But I don't think that is what you are talking about.
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Nah, that wouldn't be worth it in my opinion in terms of time spent versus spending $25.
redpoint73 said:
Your opinion on this is correct. In fact, the CDMA versions are terrible for most folks, for reasons you are now seeing. My opinion, they are only suitable for those using the specific US networks (Sprint, Verizon). Otherwise, I strongly recommend anyone else against getting CDMA version M8 phones.
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For this reason you mention, I will avoid getting anymore CDMA phones at all.I curretly have two M7 and one M8 by Sprint. I bought them because I was able to get them for a good price. I may just install a custom recovery and root them just to sell them and buy more GSM versions instead. I was planning on getting more M7s and M8s. Thank you.

The5thSurvivor said:
For me, the funds is not an issue. If there's something I need/want, I will pay it if there is no free alternative. The reason I thought that I needed s-off is because there is a thread that mentions if you need access to the system partition (which is where you mention that everything I'd like to mod is located) you must be s-off on the phone. But if I don't need it to do that, then more than likely I won't bother with s-off. Though I would like to change the splash screen image as well, but it's not a huge deal.
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Definitely do not need s-off to gain access to system partition. Wherever you read that, it us simply incorrect. You can also change the boot splash with s-on. All you need to access the desired/mentioned partitions is unlocked bootloader, custom recovery (TWRP) and at most insecure kernel mod (or custom kernel).
It is possible you may be looking at threads for the Verizon CDMA variant M8. Verizon blocked the bootloader unlock process for that variant. Therefore, s-off is needed to install custom recovery, root, etc. But that is the exception, and only applies to the Verizon M8.