OTG cable question - Kindle Fire Accessories

This seemed like an accessories question, so i decided to put it here. Has anyone with an OTG cable tried to use a 360 controller with an emulator? That would be awesome. If someone could try, or if someone HAS tried and know if it works or not could let me know that would be awesome.

I doubt VERY highly that it will work, but I have all the stuff to try it so I will report back in around 10 minutes haha.

aaron1006 said:
I doubt VERY highly that it will work, but I have all the stuff to try it so I will report back in around 10 minutes haha.
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Well in theory it should work because anything thats HID Usb should be supported by otg. Here hopin! haha

For some reason I can't even get my mouse/keyboard to work right now (it has worked before) and unfortunately I'm down to about 5% battery. I'll do further investigation tomorrow.

While you're right that theoretically any USB device can work, you still need the right drivers. The problem is that Android uses a monolithic kernel instead of the standard Linux microkernel. That means you can't simple load the right module when you need it. If you want to use the wireless receiver you'll have to compile your own kernel with the xboxdrv module built in.

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While you're right that theoretically any USB device can work, you still need the right drivers. The problem is that Android uses a monolithic kernel instead of the standard Linux microkernel. That means you can't simple load the right module when you need it. If you want to use the wireless receiver you'll have to compile your own kernel with the xboxdrv module built in.
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Nope no wireless reciver. Just the plain old xbox 360 controller, with the usb. Why would I go a round about way of using the wireless receiver instead of just the controller?

HaiKaiDo said:
Nope no wireless reciver. Just the plain old xbox 360 controller, with the usb. Why would I go a round about way of using the wireless receiver instead of just the controller?
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I haven't tried it on my kindle fire, but I have tried it on my xoom. Works fine. I will give it a shot in a few hours when work slows down, but I dont' see why it wouldn't work, so long as the emulator supports gamepads, and the rom/kernel does the usb host stuff.
update: Nope. controller never lights up, looks like it isn't even there. this was using the motorola OTG cable, aokp rom with the 3.0 kernel.

ffttgghh said:
I haven't tried it on my kindle fire, but I have tried it on my xoom. Works fine. I will give it a shot in a few hours when work slows down, but I dont' see why it wouldn't work, so long as the emulator supports gamepads, and the rom/kernel does the usb host stuff.
update: Nope. controller never lights up, looks like it isn't even there. this was using the motorola OTG cable, aokp rom with the 3.0 kernel.
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You do have to use a powered usb hub with it. you did that right?

HaiKaiDo said:
You do have to use a powered usb hub with it. you did that right?
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I didn't on my xoom, and it recognized it, so I didn't think to use one with the fire. I don't have a powered usb hub, so I can't be of any more help.

ffttgghh said:
I didn't on my xoom, and it recognized it, so I didn't think to use one with the fire. I don't have a powered usb hub, so I can't be of any more help.
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yeah the xoom can supply power. the KF cant. Thanks for trying tho

can someone recommend powered usb hub? i have 2 and neither one work. i have tested usb keyboard and mouse w/o hub and all seems good. just need a hub for thumb drive\BT\game controller test.

HaiKaiDo said:
Nope no wireless reciver. Just the plain old xbox 360 controller, with the usb. Why would I go a round about way of using the wireless receiver instead of just the controller?
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Its the same driver...

leroy641 said:
can someone recommend powered usb hub? i have 2 and neither one work. i have tested usb keyboard and mouse w/o hub and all seems good. just need a hub for thumb drive\BT\game controller test.
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http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005P2BY5I/ref=pe_175190_21431760_M2C_SC_dp_1
Is what I just got and it works well.

Any rom that can enable KF using OTG?

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[Q] 3.1 and Xbox Wireless Reciever

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Seems like the answer is yes!
I've not got the 3.1 update yet so I can't tests this.
What are the chances that with the new joystick support and host mode that the USB xbox wireless receiver will work? Would be great to use a wireless 360 pad with the emulators and even android games
Xbox360 wont work wireless. only wired. Maybe ps3 ones will work in the future wireless with bluetooth. What i dont understand is that if you will need to download a driver o someone have to make an app like the one for the wii controller.
Just to be clear, I'm referring to the USB connected wireless receiver for PC's to use the wireless controllers. I know work has been done to get it running in Linux, was hoping they would have added support in 3.1 (long shot I know).
Good question on the app, I assume we'll just need the applications to understand the mappings. I assume the emulators will work since they have a built in mapping utility.
jss42 said:
Just to be clear, I'm referring to the USB connected wireless receiver for PC's to use the wireless controllers. I know work has been done to get it running in Linux, was hoping they would have added support in 3.1 (long shot I know).
Good question on the app, I assume we'll just need the applications to understand the mappings. I assume the emulators will work since they have a built in mapping utility.
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If I had a dang OTG cable i'd be able to tell you...wish verizon would start selling them!
I've now got an otg cable and receiver so once 3.1 hits the UK I'll do some testing
As of now the PC adapter doesn't work. Also app developers need to add some lines of code in order to take full advantage of USB devices. I have dne a little research on it, I don't know how much it would take to add new devices to the xoom, but from looking at it people should be able to write/port drivers to the xoom kinda like how the wii remote work using an app. At least this is my understanding of how it works.
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OK guys...
The xbox 360 wireless reciever DOES work I have been playing in snesoid with it quite a bit recently.
solarnz said:
OK guys...
The xbox 360 wireless reciever DOES work I have been playing in snesoid with it quite a bit recently.
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And how are you doing this?
solarnz said:
OK guys...
The xbox 360 wireless reciever DOES work I have been playing in snesoid with it quite a bit recently.
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What size you do to get it to work... I just tried and no joy. Wired works fine.
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The xbox 360 wireless reciever <b>DOES</b> work I have been playing in snesoid with it quite a bit recently.
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Just have to connect the USB receiver to a OTG cable, then connect the wireless controller like normal. Been using it as well, it works fine!

USB Adapter with a USB hub

Hello all,
I received my USB adapter from Samsung today and am pleased to inform you that it works wonderfully with a USB hub. My hub has 4 slots on it and the tab was playing well with multiple USB devices being plugged in.
Really? I guess usb hub is needed to make things work? i had all kinds of issues. Mainly, not reading some usb drives, and memory reader. I just plugged the usb drive, directly into the usb adapter. The memory card reader was connected by standard usb to mini usb cable. That didn't work.
I got to try this.
Thanks.
No problem. I actually have not tried storage devices yet, only input devices. I posted on your other thread as well.
I have a feeling thumb drives may be having a problem if they are formatted in the FAT32 file system. I am going to try an NTFS drive and external hard drive and will let you know my results.
UPDATE: It appears I had it the other way around. I plugged in an NTFS drive to no avail, then formatted it to FAT32 and it worked.
FAT32 works great. NTFS is completely missing from stock kernels, it's in pershoot's "lib" extra modules archive on his kernels. However, I tried an NTFS drive using the extra module and it failed. (might require some manual mount magic???) It would take a lot more work to get FUSE working properly, and that's needed for the (vastly superior) ntfs-3g driver.
So does it work with external usb hard drives (both self powered and plug powered) of the sizes of 500GB and more?
what brand/type
what brand/type of usb hub do you have
Invisman said:
So does it work with external usb hard drives (both self powered and plug powered) of the sizes of 500GB and more?
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If the hub is powered then the drive should work fine. You just can't use a usb powered drive without a power source
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Ican't get mine to read my game controllers. Says something about high powered device. It won't let me read the message. When I tap it to make it bigger it just goes away. I am very frustrated. Can you get a fame controller to work? I used ps3.
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Shadee1394 said:
Ican't get mine to read my game controllers. Says something about high powered device. It won't let me read the message. When I tap it to make it bigger it just goes away. I am very frustrated. Can you get a fame controller to work? I used ps3.
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PS3 controllers require a special driver. It may also require too much current since it tries to charge via USB. You'll need a powered hub if that is the case.
Gonna try my PS3 controller in a few minutes.
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No excessive current errors from my PS3 controller - however mine has a fully charged battery because it's been plugged into a PS3 that has only been playing movies/videos for weeks. However button presses aren't recognized by anything. My guess is that if I dmesg I'll get an unrecognized device error. PS3 controllers are nonstandard.
However a Nyko AirFlo controller worked fine in SNES9x EX. It was semi-recognized by SNESoid - the keymap screen recognized something was being pressed, but games themselves wouldn't register presses.
Edit 2: PS3 controllers require the hid-sony kernel module to be loaded. This is included in pershoot's optional "lib" archive with his kernels. I had to hit the PS button to get it to turn on and start sending presses to the tab. No excessive current errors, but my controller was fully charged.
Thanks. But for some reason the ps3 and the x box controller worked for the xoom. I called samsung and they don't have any help for this issue yet. Can you get any external device to work for at least over fifty percent of what the adapter is meant to do? Did you get any error messages. I get high powered device connected. Then it say underneath that out could not connect. Device needs............. I cant read the rest. When I tap it to enlarge and read it disappears. Samsung can't figure out why that is happening either. Plz help.
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Thanks. But for some reason the ps3 and the x box controller worked for the xoom. I called samsung and they don't have any help for this issue yet. Can you get any external device to work for at least over fifty percent of what the adapter is meant to do? Did you get any error messages. I get high powered device connected. Then it say underneath that out could not connect. Device needs............. I cant read the rest. When I tap it to enlarge and read it disappears. Samsung can't figure out why that is happening either. Plz help.
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Make sure the PS3 controller is fully charged before you connect it. If it isn't, it'll try to charge the battery and that's probably what sets off the overcurrent protection.
As to it working with the Xoom - I'd be VERY surprised if it worked with the Xoom when stock. Not so surprised about custom kernels, adding those modules is one of the first things people add, and the Xoom guys may have figured out module autoloading.
Thanks going to try now
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nothing over 32GB for now
Kevin Gossett said:
If the hub is powered then the drive should work fine. You just can't use a usb powered drive without a power source
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wish i'd have read this before i bought it. i assumed it would since every other android tablet i have/had can power my external hds. pretty much makes it useless for me now as i was hoping to use it as external storage and for easy, quick file transfers. tf, xoom, and archos all work fine.
Entropy512 said:
As to it working with the Xoom - I'd be VERY surprised if it worked with the Xoom when stock. Not so surprised about custom kernels, adding those modules is one of the first things people add, and the Xoom guys may have figured out module autoloading.
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It works on a stock 3.1 build, it was one of those new features hyped at google i/o. I have both the European XOom and the Galaxy tab. The xoom copes fine with the ps3 and my other usb only non brand gamepad. The galaxy tab give me the hipower usb device error.
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However a Nyko AirFlo controller worked fine in SNES9x EX. It was semi-recognized by SNESoid - the keymap screen recognized something was being pressed, but games themselves wouldn't register presses.
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For SNESoid, you probably forgot to go into the other settings menu and turn on external input. The names may be off, but in addition to setting the key mappings, you have to turn on another option for it to see additional input devices, and then your gamepad will work
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Really? I guess usb hub is needed to make things work? i had all kinds of issues. Mainly, not reading some usb drives, and memory reader. I just plugged the usb drive, directly into the usb adapter. The memory card reader was connected by standard usb to mini usb cable. That didn't work.
I got to try this.
Thanks.
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I had troubles reading an SD card with an old USB reader I had lying around. It was hit and miss.
Then I bought this SD card reader at Fry's for $4.99 and it works perfectly.
So, just to be clear, you are using a male A-A USB cable with one end plugged into the USB adapter on the GTab and the other end into one of the available USB ports in the hub, right?

[Q] Gamepad, game controller

Anyone tried to setup a controller on the tablet? I just purchased a moga power pro controller but I wa unable to set it up. It is workig fine with my S4 and the bluetooth works on the tablet becase I managed to connect the phone to the tablet via bluetooth.
Does anyone know how to setup the controller or becase it is a 3rd party device the access blocked?
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Anyone tried to setup a controller on the tablet? I just purchased a moga power pro controller but I wa unable to set it up. It is workig fine with my S4 and the bluetooth works on the tablet becase I managed to connect the phone to the tablet via bluetooth.
Does anyone know how to setup the controller or becase it is a 3rd party device the access blocked?
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Are you just trying to connect via bluetooth? I haven't done this in a long time (way back on my Xoom) but I thought you needed a 3rd party app and Root access to link them.
Someone confirm? Would love to play Soulcraft II - with a gamepad.
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Are you just trying to connect via bluetooth? I haven't done this in a long time (way back on my Xoom) but I thought you needed a 3rd party app and Root access to link them.
Someone confirm? Would love to play Soulcraft II - with a gamepad.
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Moga has an app can be downloaded from the play store (moga pivot) and yes it uses bluetooth. This should work without root. If you google moga is a big name which should work on android 2.3 and above. I think the reason is samsung which is now blocking all 3rd part devices from 4.4.2 but I am not sure. I think the only option left is the samsung gamepad..
Not for $100 bucks. That's plain crazy
I use an OTG cable and PS4 controller.
HughesNet said:
I use an OTG cable and PS4 controller.
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Any app needed to link them?
HughesNet said:
I use an OTG cable and PS4 controller.
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Have you rooted? or the device just support it?
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Have you rooted? or the device just support it?
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It just supports it. Yes I have rooted but I have 3 Tab Pros as well that are not rooted and it works just fine on them as well. It also worked on my Tab S before I rooted. OTG is always supported on android devices.
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It just supports it. Yes I have rooted but I have 3 Tab Pros as well that are not rooted and it works just fine on them as well. It also worked on my Tab S before I rooted. OTG is always supported on android devices.
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Did you have to download any apps for button management?
I use my ps3 controller as gamepad with an adapter and it's working flawlessly. I've tested it with Dead Trigger 2 and Rayman Fiesta Run.
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If anyone gets a wired xbox controller to work, please let us know what you did. I was totally just hoping it was going to work and it doesn't. (at least for me). I just get a blinking light on the xbox controller. I have the 10.5.
I even rooted and installed USB/BT JoystickCenter Gold Demo but then that gets a 'can not get access to /dev/uinput error'
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If anyone gets a wired xbox controller to work, please let us know what you did. I was totally just hoping it was going to work and it doesn't. (at least for me). I just get a blinking light on the xbox controller. I have the 10.5.
I even rooted and installed USB/BT JoystickCenter Gold Demo but then that gets a 'can not get access to /dev/uinput error'
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try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/orig-development/kernel-skyhigh-tw-kernel-t2806563
Thanks so much for suggesting something but I'm too anxious to try it, since that thread says it's only for the SM-T700 (8.4") and I have the 10.5". He even specifically states it in post #3.
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Has anyone been able to get the sixaxis app working? I can't... I believe it has to do with a missing Samsung Bluetooth protocol in newer Samsung devices.
That was one of my main reasons for getting a tablet!
Not that it matters but I emailed Samsung support and their response: Thank you for contacting Samsung. I see that you would like to know whether Galaxy Tab S supports hooking up to a wired xbox USB controller. I do understand your concern and requirement. However, this Tablet does not support wired xbox USB controller. Unfortunately, as of now theere are no compatible controllers that use an USB OTG cable for this model from Samsung and Samsung does not have any tested results on using PS3 controller with the Tablet. I hope the above provided information address your concern.
controller recharges the tablet
is it possible to connect the controller (that has a battery pack) to the tablet and recharge the tablet?
eg. can a xbox one controller, that has a battery pack, be connected with an mhl cable/usb cable to a tablet and be used to charge the tablet? so the tablet is not drained while playing games.
(i asked this in the accessories forum too, apologies)
I use PS3 Controller wireless using Sixaxis Controller app.. For the first time setup need otg, but after pairing no need the otg . Can use wireless.
ayenzel said:
I use PS3 Controller wireless using Sixaxis Controller app.. For the first time setup need otg, but after pairing no need the otg . Can use wireless.
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Thanks for the info! I just ordered an otg cable. Are you able to get two controllers working with the six axis app, or just one? My goal is to be able to use emulators with two Wireless PS3 controllers. Thanks!
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Thanks for the info! I just ordered an otg cable. Are you able to get two controllers working with the six axis app, or just one? My goal is to be able to use emulators with two Wireless PS3 controllers. Thanks!
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if you have a computer , you can just plug the controller in and set the address for it .. no otg needed :good:
sku|| said:
if you have a computer , you can just plug the controller in and set the address for it .. no otg needed :good:
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I tried that, but the Galaxy Tab won't find the controllers. I've set it up on multiple devices, but couldn't get it working on this one.
I read that the newer Samsung devices don't come with a Bluetooth protocol that is required for sixaxis to work... I hope I'm wrong!

OTG hardware in the fire stick?

Does anyone know if the Amazon fire TV stick has the OTG compatible hardware. I bought a Y OTG cable and it doesn't work . I was going to do a hardware root and see if I could get it working. But if doesn't even have the compatible hardware i'm not going to bother.
No one has been able to get anything working. I don't know whether it has the hardware or not, but I'm kind of doubting it, or it's not enabled at all in the OS.
I have looked at the PCB and it looks like only power is hooked up to the port the rest look grounded so there won't be any USB stuff for it
pbanj said:
I have looked at the PCB and it looks like only power is hooked up to the port the rest look grounded so there won't be any USB stuff for it
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That is very sneaky of them. I don't understand why they are intentionally crippling their hardware...
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I have looked at the PCB and it looks like only power is hooked up to the port the rest look grounded so there won't be any USB stuff for it
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So how is this possible? http://www.aftvnews.com/fire-tv-stick-usb-port-not-for-power-only-adb-over-usb-confirmed/
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So how is this possible? http://www.aftvnews.com/fire-tv-stick-usb-port-not-for-power-only-adb-over-usb-confirmed/
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thats why i said it looks like. i was going off the pics on gtv. i just looked again and the traces u can see are ground and a data line, pin 2 and pin 5. the fact they where able to get adb to work makes me think the rest are hooked up but u cant see them
http://www.gtvhacker.com/images/7/74/Amazon_Fire_TV_Stick_Board_Top_Bare.JPG
http://www.gtvhacker.com/images/8/89/Amazon_Fire_TV_Stick_Board_Bottom_Pads_Removed.JPG
any updates on using otg cables with the stick?
if the hardware is ready (data has to be wired, i think?), the host mode would be only software dependent?
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any updates on using otg cables with the stick?
if the hardware is ready (data has to be wired, i think?), the host mode would be only software dependent?
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Has there been a new post in the past 4 months?
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Has there been a new post in the past 4 months?
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nope thats why i was asking. i think if someone has found a way, it must not be in this thread?
and i was asking because europe got the stick now
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So how is this possible?
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It's possible, but it's also pointless.
Connecting to your Fire TV stick is possible without using the cable, just by using adb.
ie: adb connect 192.168.0.103 (ip address of your Fire Stick)
Mikira said:
It's possible, but it's also pointless.
Connecting to your Fire TV stick is possible without using the cable, just by using adb.
ie: adb connect 192.168.0.103 (ip address of your Fire Stick)
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Then you didn't get the point. We are talking about using USB-OTG in this thread.
What should be pointless in thinking about that?!
I think everybody would like to connect a USB key to the AFTVS to watch some movies from that USB key :good:
Hi, i was able to get otg working.....now I'm using a USB wired keyboard and mouse connected to a USB hub.......and was able to use a ps3 controller connected by USB working with a app called liquidsky.....but I need help, does anyone know how to get a wired Xbox 360 controller working with fire stick.........it plugs in and gets power but the middle guide button just keeps blinking and its not recognized by liquidsky........any help would be appreciated.........
Confirmed.... OTG cable with flirc usb. I now can control my Amazon Firestick with my logitech harmony remote. Finally one remote!
OTG Issues
Firestick is detecting my 1 TB HD but ES Explorer showing only Lost.directory. Kodi also unable to detect video files.
HD is formatted in FAT 32 partition

USB Hub on Fire Stick

Hi !
Is there a way to plug a AC powered USB hub to Fire Stick microUSB? to add more USB devices?
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Hi !
Is there a way to plug a AC powered USB hub to Fire Stick microUSB? to add more USB devices?
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If that were possible I'm almost certain I would've heard of it by now.
Let's say it were possible, you'd still need root privs to mount the drive.
KLit75 said:
If that were possible I'm almost certain I would've heard of it by now.
Let's say it were possible, you'd still need root privs to mount the drive.
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Maybe a drive, but what about a camera or wifi keyboard
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Maybe a drive, but what about a camera or wifi keyboard
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I have 2 aftvs and a stick. But the stick is in my kids room and i dont do much with it. Bluetooth support was added for the console like 2 updates ago. Id try pairing whatever u want and see if it works.
Maybe look on aftvnews.com. if theres anything noteworthy im sure they reported it.
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Hi !
Is there a way to plug a AC powered USB hub to Fire Stick microUSB? to add more USB devices?
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KLit75 said:
I have 2 aftvs and a stick. But the stick is in my kids room and i dont do much with it. Bluetooth support was added for the console like 2 updates ago. Id try pairing whatever u want and see if it works.
Maybe look on aftvnews.com. if theres anything noteworthy im sure they reported it.
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http://www.aftvnews.com/fire-tv-stick-will-not-accept-a-usb-keyboard-or-mouse/
Doesn't the Fire TV Stick lack a USB port? That's the main reason I went for the box instead of the stick version.

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