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Opinions needed!! Coming from a motorola milestone should I upgrade?

Hi All,
I currently have a Motorola Milestone (international version of the droid) and I was wondering if I should update to the Galaxy Nexus. Acknowledging the fact that I can only classify my phone as "usable" if I have a rom which runs Froyo and is overclocked from 550mhz to 1GHz (The Froyo Mod by 89luca89). As a result of these tweaks and the overclock, my phone only lasts about 6-7 hours with a considerable amount of usage which is far to little for my expectations. I live in Canada and if I were to get a new phone it would at least be on a 2 year contract on Bell. Looking at the specs of the Galaxy Nexus it doesn't compare too much above the competition, and in terms of raw specs I believe that some competitors could easily surpass the performance of the Galaxy Nexus which essentially means that eventually, it won't be as great and would compare to other products (e.g. iPhone 2G against iPhone 4).
Okay, so at this point it seems as though I have made my decision to wait for longer but....
Although the Galaxy Nexus compared to a lot of the other competition seems to have underwhelming specs, it is still the first ice cream sandwich phone which Google and Samsung collaborated upon which means that the software would be tailored specifically for the hardware and vice versa. Also, I believe that the developer base would probably be extremely huge because of the number of consumers purchasing this product and the huge interest for developers with the newest version of Android. ( I mean look at the Nexus One!) Now another probem that I see with the Galaxy Nexus is that the GPU is 4 years outdated so it might not be the best phone to get but then again how many games do you really play on your phone? (I think the GPU is identical to the GPU in the Nexus S but apparently the processor is more-so tailored for multitasking and better performance, but not gaming)
As you can clearly see I'm at cross-roads and I seriously need some opinions.
My question to you guys is:
Should I get the Galaxy Nexus (on Bell's network) when it comes out in Canada or should I wait for a successor or a faster alternative such as the Samsung Galaxy S3.
Thanks, and your opinions are greatly appreciated

every person will give you a different answer/ reasoning behind that answer, in the end it would be do you want to spend the money. Im a Nexus fiend so I will say yes get it

If you wait for a while the droid RAZR is coming out and the specs are pretty awesome

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If you wait for a while the droid RAZR is coming out and the specs are pretty awesome
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specs are only part of a phone, motorola likes locking down their phones pretty tight, and god knows how they will provide updates

slowz3r said:
every person will give you a different answer/ reasoning behind that answer, in the end it would be do you want to spend the money. Im a Nexus fiend so I will say yes get it
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I don't mind spending the money at all but I'm just afraid that it will get outdated too quickly because of the specs
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If you wait for a while the droid RAZR is coming out and the specs are pretty awesome
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The specs are pretty similar to the Galaxy Nexus, and I'd assume that the Galaxy Nexus would have much more developers which is good for me because I love mods, themes, roms, etc. Also I honestly don't want to wait that long to get ice cream sandwich and also motorola might ruin the entire experience if they add blur.
Thanks for your opinions guys, I think it is fairly evident that I am heading towards the Nexus Prime I probably have to wait for a very long time though since I don't think a GSM version with LTE will be available on Bell's network that fast

Shadow_Android said:
If you wait for a while the droid RAZR is coming out and the specs are pretty awesome
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As a fellow MS owner looking to upgrade, MOTO can take the RAZR and shove it. Never again will I buy a MOTO phone after dealing with the whole droid = unlocked, ms = locked. And MOTO has said they will lock down the RAZR, so forget that.
I'm getting a nexus prime or a xiaomi M-1

SophT said:
As a fellow MS owner looking to upgrade, MOTO can take the RAZR and shove it. Never again will I buy a MOTO phone after dealing with the whole droid = unlocked, ms = locked. And MOTO has said they will lock down the RAZR, so forget that.
I'm getting a nexus prime or a xiaomi M-1
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This.
I am also a Milestone owner. I will NEVER buy another motorola product again. Locked Bootloader, sold as a "flash ready" phone with 2.1!?! Finally updates to 2.2 8 months later and the build is soo bad the phone practically can't be used (DSI Errors).
Really my question now is, Nexus or GS2? I was really hoping for the exynos in the nexus.

SophT said:
As a fellow MS owner looking to upgrade, MOTO can take the RAZR and shove it. Never again will I buy a MOTO phone after dealing with the whole droid = unlocked, ms = locked. And MOTO has said they will lock down the RAZR, so forget that.
I'm getting a nexus prime or a xiaomi M-1
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Yeah now I'm like 95% sure I'm going for the HTC Rezound or the Galaxy Nexus
drae52 said:
This.
I am also a Milestone owner. I will NEVER buy another motorola product again. Locked Bootloader, sold as a "flash ready" phone with 2.1!?! Finally updates to 2.2 8 months later and the build is soo bad the phone practically can't be used (DSI Errors).
Really my question now is, Nexus or GS2? I was really hoping for the exynos in the nexus.
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I wouldn't get the GS2 though I would rather go for something like the Rezound just because it seems like old news now But I'm now debating whether fire power is more important or a higher developer base (in terms of both apps and roms) and newer OS

search for my post on the sub par hardware thread in the GN general forums. u will be convinced.

If you want a phone that doesn't get outdated fast, the Galaxy Nexus is the choice because you are guaranteed to get the latest update directly from Google in a timely manner.
The NS will surely lasts you 1.5 to 2 years and it will be one of the first phones to get the next version of Android next year.
The Nexus S is still one of the best phones out there with the latest software while other older high spec phones are crying to their manufacture for updates.

I would just say this for a point of view as a Nexus S users
If you spend time hacking and rooting your phone to rip off what ever manufactured skinned into your phone get the nexus
If you like speedy updates with new OS's get the nexus
The nexus s dev section might look slow to some people, but thats cause everything doesnt need to be fixed, its been a treat not to have the feeling to flash a rom to update a bug, its great.
I dont think I will ever buy another android phone that is not a nexus line, think about all those cool feature baked into ICS that you will probably not see if say Moto removed the lock screen and puts in their own dialer and such just saying

BrianDigital said:
I would just say this for a point of view as a Nexus S users
If you spend time hacking and rooting your phone to rip off what ever manufactured skinned into your phone get the nexus
If you like speedy updates with new OS's get the nexus
The nexus s dev section might look slow to some people, but thats cause everything doesnt need to be fixed, its been a treat not to have the feeling to flash a rom to update a bug, its great.
I dont think I will ever buy another android phone that is not a nexus line, think about all those cool feature baked into ICS that you will probably not see if say Moto removed the lock screen and puts in their own dialer and such just saying
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But from a hardware perspective the Galaxy Nexus isn't very strong. I wanted to get something along the lines of the new Exynos processor and certainly not that 4 year old gpu which I doubt could render games at such a high resolution. I might be looking to get the new Samsung galaxy s 2, the one with LTE and apparently theres an new one with a 1.6GHz exynos processor I think. Nonetheless, thanks for your reply
kanariya said:
If you want a phone that doesn't get outdated fast, the Galaxy Nexus is the choice because you are guaranteed to get the latest update directly from Google in a timely manner.
The NS will surely lasts you 1.5 to 2 years and it will be one of the first phones to get the next version of Android next year.
The Nexus S is still one of the best phones out there with the latest software while other older high spec phones are crying to their manufacture for updates.
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It might get outdated fairly quickly though as the gpu is fairly bad and the processor isn't the greatest and the competition is exponentially rising

mohitrocks said:
But from a hardware perspective the Galaxy Nexus isn't very strong. I wanted to get something along the lines of the new Exynos processor and certainly not that 4 year old gpu which I doubt could render games at such a high resolution. I might be looking to get the new Samsung galaxy s 2, the one with LTE and apparently theres an new one with a 1.6GHz exynos processor I think. Nonetheless, thanks for your reply
It might get outdated fairly quickly though as the gpu is fairly bad and the processor isn't the greatest and the competition is exponentially rising
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It's all up to you for what you think is more important.
I would take the pure Android experience, guaranteed timely updates over better spec on paper. The real world performance might be differ as ICS is optimized for the OMAP instead of the Exynos.
I would still take my Nexus S over any non Nexus device out there on the market today.

There is a reason that samsung has sold more android phones than motorola.
Better Hardware, better software.
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There is a reason that samsung has sold more android phones than motorola.
Better Hardware, better software.
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Not sure about Samsung against Motorola but Samsung's software generally sucks. That's the reason I want to avoid Galaxy S2 and get a Galaxy Nexus.

Dragooon123 said:
Not sure about Samsung against Motorola but Samsung's software generally sucks. That's the reason I want to avoid Galaxy S2 and get a Galaxy Nexus.
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Agreed. I really do hate TouchWiz with a passion.

I flashed CM7 on my SGS2 and loving it over the stock TW rom, also if there are some bugs (like BT sleep problem, and headphone volume that don't go higher than 50% closed source thinghs) but is blazing fast and customizable.
I will never go back again on stock Sams rom, that's why I'm getting a Nexus also if I'm disappointed on the hardware part.
For sure the sgs3 will be a kick ass, but sgs2 buyer's know that some battery eating bugs was solved from developers, after several months (Android OS process).
Well these is my opinion I can be wrong against some of you for sure, but as someone sayd I prefer flexibility and customisation over pure power, and I don't play games on a phone, so for me the Nexus is a must this year.
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Is the nexus going to be as big as the S2?

Is the nexus going to be the next big thing? And thus in regards to roms and themes etc. is it going to have lots of devs on board? I'm in the market right now for a phone but the only thing stopping me from getting a nexus is the lack of mods. So that's either because it is so new or people don't actually like it. So is it worth getting this phone and waiting for 3rd party stuff to come out? As I really don't care about the average ICS features they talk about.

It's too new. It's the next damn Nexus phone, it's the ICS reference phone, it already has plenty of developers. But it's a low newer than the SII.

As stated before, its too new. Sure, the SGSII sold about 1 million units in less than a month but you gotta take into consideration that Samsung brung in new technology and the Galaxy Nexus is pretty much an upgraded SGSII with AOSP. SuperAMOLED HD & an LED notification are the 2 main features that made me want this phone, plus the design is alot sleaker than first anticipated. Also, Google phones are developer phones. So people tend to not go for dev phones even though its alot easier to use than Bloatwiz.
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sales wise the galaxy nexus will NOT surpass the GS2
as far as development, community and modding goes, that it will surpass simply because the nexus is the go to device for the fast majority of major developers around here.

in any case except software there is not much to write about in Galaxy Nexus, its more or less the same hardware specs as SGS2 which is almost an year old now.
Now that ICS is showcased, there should be much better hardware coming up (in a matter of months) which would be FAR BETTER!
There is hardly anything to write about in this hardware, but coming up are the 1.5/2 GHz - quad core CPUs and that would make for the REAL deal

Unfortunately, the nexus Galaxy S handset will blow the Nexus out the water sales-wise as Samsung will plug it like hell

dhruvraj said:
in any case except software there is not much to write about in Galaxy Nexus, its more or less the same hardware specs as SGS2 which is almost an year old now.
Now that ICS is showcased, there should be much better hardware coming up (in a matter of months) which would be FAR BETTER!
There is hardly anything to write about in this hardware, but coming up are the 1.5/2 GHz - quad core CPUs and that would make for the REAL deal
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Uh.. have you taken a look at CES 2012? many companies announced upcoming phones. All of them with the exception of the Huawei one are being launched with Gingerbread upgradable to Ice Cream Sandwich. This will take months to do. Not to mention, manufacturer skins will ruin the stock ICS experience.
Sure tablets are coming out with quad-cores. But all in honesty, this is a phone, not a computer. Quad core is nice, yes. But it's still a phone.
Galaxy Nexus won't be big as the S2 in terms of sales. It never will be. Nexus devices are focused towards Android enthusiastics that want the stock experience. It is not a device that is mainstream (not the device everyone will notice). Which is what makes the device so cool and unique with it's sleek design.
Galaxy Nexus will have major support from developers. We've already have numerous developers who are putting work and effort into ROMs and kernels including Ezekeel (his works from the Nexus S and kernel expertise), Franco (kernel), morfic (in progress with donations), supercurio (Voodoo) and so on. Several CM devs also have the phone.
Why do you think Clockwork Recovery Touch Enabled was built first for the GN? Get the phone if modding / ROMs is your thing. The phone's just going to get bigger as it slowly gets expanded onto U.S. carriers (whenever..)

I don't understand ur point and most probably there is none anyway
Matter of months you see much better hardware, we will both be here I'll post ..HTC Samsung are both coming up with their next Gen phones.
Galaxy nexus is an year old spec almost, and regarding OS - almost everyone is rooting their nexus devices - so u root a much better hardware spec device and port a fully functional ICS rom on them and you're there!
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Actually he made very good points. Coming from an iPhone the galaxy nexus was the only option. I won't deal with lack of upgrades and bloatware anymore
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dhruvraj said:
I don't understand ur point and most probably there is none anyway
Matter of months you see much better hardware, we will both be here I'll post ..HTC Samsung are both coming up with their next Gen phones.
Galaxy nexus is an year old spec almost, and regarding OS - almost everyone is rooting their nexus devices - so u root a much better hardware spec device and port a fully functional ICS rom on them and you're there!
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Next generation phones? The lineup of these phones at ces were not that impressive, and I doubt I'll be impressed at mwc. Also 99% of these phones will be on gingerbread
Nexus devices will always be the best choice for me because I enjoy the pure android experience without bloatware and easy unlock.
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February!! ICS!! Quad core!!
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/samsung-galaxy-s3-here-february-with-3d-720p-screen-50006516/
Most likely 1.5 ghz!!
What are you talking about? Deluded?
Or because you bought nexus it is the best device??
It is an year old hardware, I've bought it for some reasons but anyone who can afford to ..should wait a month or two to get the real deal!
I just gave Samsung s3 a mighty upgrade from HTC is also coming up real soon!
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dhruvraj said:
February!! ICS!! Quad core!!
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/samsung-galaxy-s3-here-february-with-3d-720p-screen-50006516/
Most likely 1.5 ghz!!
What are you talking about? Deluded?
Or because you bought nexus it is the best device??
It is an year old hardware, I've bought it for some reasons but anyone who can afford to ..should wait a month or two to get the real deal!
I just gave Samsung s3 a mighty upgrade from HTC is also coming up real soon!
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I bought a Galaxy Nexus because it is a nexus device. I do not care for Galaxy S3 because it uses a manufacturer skin causing delays when it comes to updates. Not to mention, S3 is announced and will probably not arrive to the states until Summer or Fall 2012.
Galaxy nexus hardware is definitely not outdated. Quad cores, what's the use of them if android os isn't optimized to be used with those four cores?
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What makes you NOT want to upgrade/purchase an SIII over a Galaxy Nexus?

There seems to be widespread disappointment in the SIII, but I don't fully understand why. The specs aren't jaw dropping, but they aren't much less than I expected. Other than the very valid "it's not Nexus" and "touchwiz" comments, why would you not upgrade/get a GNexus rather than an SIII? I just ask because I had purchased a GNex but took it back to wait out and see the SIII. However, despite the specs being upgrade over the GNex, people don't see to think it's all that great. Is development worse on the SGS phones?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1642801

It's ugly a#$ design..

An even better question could be. Why would you want a gnex over the now coming out to sprint htc evo 4g lte? It's very easily unlocked and easy to root.
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It looks, well, bad. Touchwiz deserves to be mentioned again. Most of the upgrades are software specific. It will probably cost an arm and a leg. No quad core in America. To name a few.
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Samsung decided to go back to physical buttons, virtual buttons on the galaxy nexus are so slick, to make things worse they brought back the menu button, which Google has been trying to kill, and I couldn't agree more. Plus 4.8" + the space required for physical buttons seems overkill.
The screen is pentile (Again !)
The nexus looks much better with its matte look, the sgs III looks very cheap with all that glosyness :/
The only thing I like about sg III is the 2000 mah battery and the fact that they got rid of the bump on the back found on all galaxy s phones
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Touchwiz need to be mentioned again and again!
also no softkeys
and the fact that theres gonna be a new nexus in the future
thats it

I'd rather wait foe the next nexus or buy a one x when it reaches 500 $ and when it has stable CM9
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Another thread??

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1642801
Also,
1. I will have updates faster than it will. Yes, I consider AOSP a source of updates.
2. Its fuuugly. What would the ladies say if I walked around with that?

Unless battery life was battery life was significantly better (which it won't be), I wouldn't upgrade. Most things are the same, except for CPU/GPU, Camera sensors and such, internal memory, and TW. Unless someone with an SGS3 came to the Marketplace asking for someone to switch with him for a GNex+some cash?
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Did I mention, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1642801

There's 2 components to any phone, hardware & software. The GNex will always trump other devices in the software portion, and the hardware of the SGS3 is not a substantial upgrade to warrant further thought in changing devices. In my opinion, the most important aspect of a smart phone will always be the software. Without great cutting edge software, the hardware isn't worth ****. Its the software that makes a device a pleasure to use. It let's the user operate their phone with ease, allowing unparalleled customization while not sacrificing the devices utility. Its what we XDA members love about android. With the GNex, that ability is amplified giving the very best android expedience.......In addition, there is really nothing the SGS3 can do that my GNex can't. Only my GNex does it with style.
Development for any device that's not a Nexus will be less. The Nexus devices are built with development in mind, where other devices are built for the average consumer.
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Pretty compelling arguments. So in that case..would it be worth it to sign a long term contract on a Nexus or should we expect the next Nexus by years end?

chrstphrbrnnn said:
Pretty compelling arguments. So in that case..would it be worth it to sign a long term contract on a Nexus or should we expect the next Nexus by years end?
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The next Nexus will probably be released just like in the Q4 of this year with carriers in the states getting it a few months later, at the latest next year. I would buy this phone for cheap considering it'll get Jellybean and its still a flawless and competitive phone. I'm personally looking to keep mine until late 2013.
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theres a thread for this
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It would depend on which carrier you want to use. I say that because I am not convinced the next Nexus will be available on CDMA carriers again. If you plan on going to a GSM carrier, try not to sign a contract with the current GNex. $400 retail is an absolute steal. If you don't mind waiting 8 months and would go GSM, then wait.
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Please discuss all new devices that are not the Galaxy nexus here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1642801
Thanks
FNM

[Q] [Question] How many people are waiting for the Galaxy S4 or another device?

I didn't want to update to the S3 b/c they made it a dual core phone in America. So I'm waiting for a quad core or better upgrade to the GalaxyS2.

get the note 2! it's quad core.

Note 2 will be next phone

Prolly the s4 but ill play the note 2 to see if I like it.
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I agree with you, the S3 is a nice phone but not a huge upgrade from this phone unless you are in one of those few areas with lte already. Note2 is too big for me. I think the Nokia Windows 8 phones are nice, wonder if they will go Android in the future as well. Heck Windows 8 may end up being awesome. Android can be frustrating at times.

I think I'll be speaking for a lot of people in a wimax market / non wimax market without network vision coming in till next year...
Not upgrading until LTE + NV upgrades improve data speeds.
SO probably not till the S4 or any other highly competitive / powerful phone next summer when network vision is going to hit or will hit the majority of the sprint network along with 800mhz + clearwire TD LTE 2.5-2.6ghz starting to become active.

I'll skip the S3 since I really don't see much of a Diff from my S2 to warrant an upgrade at this time. Bring on the S4!!! LOL

I'll probably wait til the s4. The feature I'm waiting for the most is the camera. I want faster focus and burst shot, and last but certainly not least, a lens that is MUCH better in low light. It has to be equal or better than the iphone 5's.

I agree, buying a LTE phone that doesn't support 800mhz LTE band is pretty dumb.
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Ill be either going with the note 2 or the LG optimus g(next nexus) the optimus on sprint is 4.7" true HD IPS screen with 1280x768 resolution snapdragon s4 pro 1.5ghz quad core, 2gb ram, 13mp rear cam, 1.3mp ffc, 2100mah battery. Specs are close to the note 2 minus the smaller screen and the note 2 has a 3100mah battery, otherwise the specs are pretty close. Google's new nexus affiliate program looks like we may have a plethora of nexus phones to choose from, they just have to meet minimum hardware requirements and have any 3rd party UIs or apps as a separate install thru a theme manager, so it ships with aosp and then u can choose to add sense, TWiz, blur etc.
We are legion, for we are many.
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I'm gonna get the next nexus, just easier to get solid updates like klp and whatever dessert starts with the letter L.
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Easy peasy lemon squeezy.
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edlee said:
I'm gonna get the next nexus, just easier to get solid updates like klp and whatever dessert starts with the letter L.
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The nexus is apparently shipping on android 4.2, however it is still unknown if 4.2 is a JellyBean update or if it will be Key Lime Pie, as quickly after JB was released to the nexus release I'm guessing 4.2 is going to just be an update to JB to add the stylus function and a few other new functions to aosp that were previously manufacturer specific(included in 3rd party UIs) to allow for the nexus affiliate program to move forward and the UIs just needing the launcher/Widgets/apps installed instead of an entire rom needing to be flashed through the system manager
We are legion, for we are many.
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Next Nexus not the LG Optimus Nexus G (hope new Nexus program is forbreal) or whatever Flagship is available by February 2013 :beer:
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Omar04 said:
Next Nexus not the LG Optimus Nexus G (hope new Nexus program is forbreal) or whatever Flagship is available by February 2013 :beer:
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There are rumors that around 25 nexus branded devices from the new program will be available between now and q1 of 2013, some phones, some tablets and some media devices. I'm hoping they make a nexus version of the note 2 since it meets the spec requirements it would only need an aosp version to qualify for the nexus branding
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I'm waiting until I see something that impresses me... so far I'm not impressed.
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Mattix724 said:
I'm waiting until I see something that impresses me... so far I'm not impressed.
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this, exactly.
i get a new device every year (at a minimum), as a rule. i was an htc fan for some time, but (coming from the EVO) the evo3d just did not impress at all, so jumped to sammy this year, with a bit of hesitation. no real regrets so far...
but so far this year, the GS3 seems a nice bump, but not a true step forward.
the HTC X series seems nice (for HW reasons), as a possibility, or possibly the Note 2.
but nothing i've seen in the last few months really grabs my balls and demands attention.

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Note 2 will be next phone
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Same here!

kingdazy said:
this, exactly.
i get a new device every year (at a minimum), as a rule. i was an htc fan for some time, but (coming from the EVO) the evo3d just did not impress at all, so jumped to sammy this year, with a bit of hesitation. no real regrets so far...
but so far this year, the GS3 seems a nice bump, but not a true step forward.
the HTC X series seems nice (for HW reasons), as a possibility, or possibly the Note 2.
but nothing i've seen in the last few months really grabs my balls and demands attention.
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You sound like me. I dropped that Evo3d ASAP and got a GS2 though. Prior to that I had an Evo 4g Touch pro 2, Touch Pro, Mogul, Apache me and HTC went way back, but the Sprint S2 killed that love in a blink of an eye. Straight Talk and my S3 killed my love for Sprint....Pending LTE deployment in my neck of the woods. I am in love with this S3. At first I had bad experiences with the battery life, but after I installed the XDA battery life fix I get battery well over 10 hours and in emergency situations I have seen it get over a day worth of battery life with the screen using 3 hours of that time.
Im definitely waiting on the S4. I just hope that the battery life will match my current device the s3. Hoping there is a15 quad core upgraded GFX and the jaw dropping 3gb of ram. Only thing I am worried about is flash compatibility. That was one of my main reasons

I'm waiting on something noticeably better when it comes to specs and build quality. My contract was up 2 months ago, but theirs nothing out there worthy of upgrading to. The Optimus G looks good spec wise, but the build quality is questionable. I'm hoping HTC gets their act together and continues improving their uni body designs.

Disappointing Google I/O. Waiting for Nexus 5 but instead got Samsung S4

Hi All,
I am quite disappointed with how things turn out at Google I/O event regarding Google announcement of Galaxy S4 device.
First there is nothing wrong with Galaxy S4 but in my country there are no I9505 (Snapdragon variant) available. I 'assume' this to be the device that Google intend to support since it is available in the US. This kinda turn me off purchasing S4. Not sure how many people really care about this but for me it is a deal breaker and I am for one will not purchase S4 octacore device.
I was hoping to upgrade my Galaxy Nexus, not that it urgently needed upgrading, since it is still fast and very usable especially with my current Rom/Kernel setup (Purity 5.4.1 + AK latest nightly) but I was hoping for something with longer battery life. HTC One / Xperia z/ S4 all clocked it at around 3-4+ hours of heavy usage, that is only slightly better than my current GN.
How do you guys feel. Has Google made the right decision to partner with Samsung and not releasing a new device this year?

kcharng said:
Hi All,
I am quite disappointed with how things turn out at Google I/O event regarding Google announcement of Galaxy S4 device.
First there is nothing wrong with Galaxy S4 but in my country there are no I9505 (Snapdragon variant) available. I 'assume' this to be the device that Google intend to support since it is available in the US. This kinda turn me off purchasing S4. Not sure how many people really care about this but for me it is a deal breaker and I am for one will not purchase S4 octacore device.
I was hoping to upgrade my Galaxy Nexus, not that it urgently needed upgrading, since it is still fast and very usable especially with my current Rom/Kernel setup (Purity 5.4.1 + AK latest nightly) but I was hoping for something with longer battery life. HTC One / Xperia z/ S4 all clocked it at around 3-4+ hours of heavy usage, that is only slightly better than my current GN.
How do you guys feel. Has Google made the right decision to partner with Samsung and not releasing a new device this year?
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Nexus 5 is impossible, look at past trends.
And the s4 ge is not a nexus device, it's just AOSP supported..
Correct me if I'm wrong..
What is expected is a updated nexus 7, which did not come out as of today, there is still 2 days of I/o, who knows what will happen..
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I don't think this year's Nexus is functionally the S4. I'm guessing that a real Nexus will come out this year. It's just that the S4 will also run AOSP, unlike what the S line has done in the past. Nexus phones usually come out later in the year. I was kind of expecting a 2nd generation Nexus 7, but oh well.
IO had updates to a lot of existing apps. Hangouts was a little lackluster, but the Books and Music apps got big updates, and it looks like the Maps app will get one soon. And there's the new IDE and the Games framework might be quite nice. So I'm actually not all that disappointed.

bananagranola said:
I don't think this year's Nexus is functionally the S4. I'm guessing that a real Nexus will come out this year. It's just that the S4 will also run AOSP, unlike what the S line has done in the past. Nexus phones usually come out later in the year. I was kind of expecting a 2nd generation Nexus 7, but oh well.
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Bingo.:good:

kcharng said:
I was hoping for something with longer battery life. HTC One / Xperia z/ S4 all clocked it at around 3-4+ hours of heavy usage, that is only slightly better than my current GN.
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Me and you both. I'm leaning towards the Note3 unless a better option is available by September.

Just like the g1, ogdroid, hero, g2, g2x, and maybe 1 or 2 other Verizon droid phones....pure Google s4....nothing new to see here.. #stillnotanexus
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the only good things is the S4 with stock android
this the only stock android with expandable memory
hoping for the specs will be the same as the original s4
1080p,13mp octa or snapdragon 600/800 will be very very fast device
this device will probably run 2years or more

If they had a new device to announce they need a new version of android. And if there was a new one they would do it at the highlight keynote. Not during the workshops.
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There's actually something bigger than a new Android version or device in this I/O.
They improve the rest except those I mentioned above.
I actually hoping for the next Android version.
And I'm still hoping they'll surprise us in the middle of another event. Hahaha. This is a silly hope, but who knows?

elnitrox said:
the only good things is the S4 with stock android
this the only stock android with expandable memory
hoping for the specs will be the same as the original s4
1080p,13mp octa or snapdragon 600/800 will be very very fast device
this device will probably run 2years or more
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Nexus/Google Dev devices before the Nexus S have expandable storage.

Mach3.2 said:
Nexus/Google Dev devices before the Nexus S have expandable storage.
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And those devices (Nexus 1) had practically very very small amount of usable space for apps anyway. I don't see this as a valid argument.
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akash3656 said:
And those devices (Nexus 1) had practically very very small amount of usable space for apps anyway. I don't see this as a valid argument.
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Ntm who's going to run out and buy a legacy device lol

I've been waiting for I/O to see what I want to do about my upgrade. I've been eligible for one since last August. Currently on Verizon so I was also hoping for a cdma nexus 5 or something. Not really into the S4. I mean it's nice, but the price tag is a little high for me personally. I get paid the day after tomorrow and I'm seriously considering picking up a Google nexus 4 on a straight talk plan. Then again if they do announce something new (maybe even later this year?) Like a new CDMA nexus I will be pretty upset I cancelled and lost my grandfathered unlimited data.
I love my gnex, but playing newer games or heavy multitasking, you kinda realize how old it is.... What do you guys think?

Why would anyone in their right mind expect a nexus 5 at I/o every nexus phone to date has been released in October, and it is still only 6 months since the nexus 4 was released.
I was, however, a little disappointed not to see a nexus 7 upgrade and android 4.3, but given all the leaks, it seams 4.3 simply got delayed and we'll probably see it at some point this summer.

crixley said:
Ntm who's going to run out and buy a legacy device lol
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I would say that depends heavily on if you're a collector of all things Google or not
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RoyJ said:
I've been waiting for I/O to see what I want to do about my upgrade. I've been eligible for one since last August. Currently on Verizon so I was also hoping for a cdma nexus 5 or something. Not really into the S4. I mean it's nice, but the price tag is a little high for me personally. I get paid the day after tomorrow and I'm seriously considering picking up a Google nexus 4 on a straight talk plan. Then again if they do announce something new (maybe even later this year?) Like a new CDMA nexus I will be pretty upset I cancelled and lost my grandfathered unlimited data.
I love my gnex, but playing newer games or heavy multitasking, you kinda realize how old it is.... What do you guys think?
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Hang in there. There's still hope Motorola will come through with something unlocked, stock, and hot for all carriers. And no, I'm not talking about the XFON, that was revealed to have mid-grade specs. Perhaps it's big brother though, which is rumored to be launching for all carriers with similar specs to that of the newer super phones.
I'm in the same boat as you, have been sitting on my upgrade since December hoping for some news or acknowledgement of things for come for our CDMA network...
#FingersCrossed
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Saw some speculation on Android Central that Google may be moving in the direction of annual update cycles now that Android has achieved a degree of maturity and polish. I am a little dubious. Part of what has made Android great up to this point has been the fact that we don't have to wait a year for updates. Two or three updates annually keeps things fresh. I would speculate that it also helps to keep the development community involved since there is always a new challenge to be tackled, but not necessarily at the expense of all of the hard work that went into the previous iteration. Just my 2¢.
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akash3656 said:
And those devices (Nexus 1) had practically very very small amount of usable space for apps anyway. I don't see this as a valid argument.
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There is no arguments over here, just correcting misinformation. Unless you are trying to tell me Nexus One is not a nexus device, then fine.
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It was a pretty blah I/O from our consumer standpoint. It looks decent from a Developer one.
I wanted to see a N5 and updated tablets also. The S4 at $650 does not interest me at all. My GN can still do everything I want it to well.

Lythandra said:
It was a pretty blah I/O from our consumer standpoint. It looks decent from a Developer one.
I wanted to see a N5 and updated tablets also. The S4 at $650 does not interest me at all. My GN can still do everything I want it to well.
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The s4 costs $848 here so consider yourself lucky you get it for $650, i don't think s4 will outsell iPhone 5 at that price, well at least not off contract, s4 looks just like my friends s3 an its already been said that its a measly upgrade from the s3 an not worth upgrading to s4 if you already own a s3, kind of like gnex to lg n4 , if your looking for something completely new i suggest waiting out for the next nexus an hoping it delivers
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slayr76 said:
The s4 costs $848 here so consider yourself lucky you get it for $650, i don't think s4 will outsell iPhone 5 at that price, well at least not off contract, s4 looks just like my friends s3 an its already been said that its a measly upgrade from the s3 an not worth upgrading to s4 if you already own a s3, kind of like gnex to lg n4 , if your looking for something completely new i suggest waiting out for the next nexus an hoping it delivers
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The S3 to S4 is a fairly large upgrade compared to the GNEX to N4. The S4 improved on virtually every aspect of the device and even shrunk the dimensions while increasing the screen size. They improved the screen, battery, camera, processor, GPU, ergonomics and added features. How is that a measly upgrade...?
I find it hard to understand that people want a complete overhaul of the devices looks in order for it be considered an "upgrade".
If they were to radically change up the overall look of the S5 people would make a million threads *****ing about the changes...
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