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[Q] SLIM ICS 4.2 for HTC ONE X ROCKS MY WORLD WERE OTHERS MADE ME STRES - WHY?S

Hi Folks. My first post on here but have been messing with Android since G1 and was with my trusted Galaxy Nexus until last week I bought the HTC One X.
I must admit that S-On is a pain and i have found it more difficult to flash ROMS to the device after Unlocking Boot-loader on HTCDEV and rooting the Device.
Does any one know of any way to remove S-Off at the minute or is this unlikely in the next couple of weeks?
I tried a few ROMS including CM9 and Paranoid Android without success but have to applaud the Slim ICS Rom for the pure delight in ease of Install and it runs beautifully as it did on my Galaxy Nexus. Is there something about Slim ICS that makes it more simply to port to than others on the market at the minute or is it just my device.
BTW I ensure I went down the Fastboot avenue with Cache and Dalvik clearing etc to try and prevent a Boot-loop scenario but only ICS worked for me.
Anyone out there wishing to try a fast light and very simple ROM to port to then I highly recommend this avenue to explore. :victory:

no, sorry there is no way to s-off a htc one x tegra 3 version.

Did you flash the boot.IMG of each ROM and then erase cache in fastboot? Might be the reason.for other roms not booting.
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ICSlim was actually ported by the actual developer of ICslim

Hey, since you came from the Gnex can you please tell me if the battery life is actually better or worse than your previous phone? I am using Gnexus right now but I want to buy a new phone and can't really decide between SGS3 and HOX. Although HOX is a clear winner here I am very concerned about the battery life since it is one of the most important things when it comes to phones for me. Thanks for your reply.

lolkoz said:
Hey, since you came from the Gnex can you please tell me if the battery life is actually better or worse than your previous phone? I am using Gnexus right now but I want to buy a new phone and can't really decide between SGS3 and HOX. Although HOX is a clear winner here I am very concerned about the battery life since it is one of the most important things when it comes to phones for me. Thanks for your reply.
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battery life on the one x is amazing mate..i can clearly go a day without charging my phone and have overall between 3-5 hrs screen on time

Goku80 said:
battery life on the one x is amazing mate..i can clearly go a day without charging my phone and have overall between 3-5 hrs screen on time
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Thanks. Well 3-5 hours of screen on time is definitely an improvement for me,since my current Nexus can barely stand 1,5 hours of browsing. I just got an oportunity to buy a grey one although I wanted the white one. Hope that I won't be disapointed in the terms of looks.

lolkoz said:
Thanks. Well 3-5 hours of screen on time is definitely an improvement for me,since my current Nexus can barely stand 1,5 hours of browsing. I just got an oportunity to buy a grey one although I wanted the white one. Hope that I won't be disapointed in the terms of looks.
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I had the white one and swapped it for the grey. Looks more serious and more classy.
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This handset is way better for heavy use than my G nex was and I find it to be of a much higher quality than the Samsung unit. I found that after a fast boot cache clear then the One X runs other roms without issue. Currently trying out Cyanogen Mod 9 and it too runs smoothly on this handset. Must say that this is probably the best handset I have enjoyed since the Nexus One and I recommend t to all of you considering a move in handset.
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Considering getting rid of Quad Core One X for Nexus

As per the title, will I miss the Quad Core? Especially concerned about smoothness in the browser, for example scrolling when viewing flash elements is as if the flash element wasnt there on the One X.
Im considering the swap as I want a Nexus device for dev support and can have a bit of money left over for the next Nexus if I do this swap.

It will not be a regret! I was a fan of the build quality of the one x and its speed but the nexus with jb on it ownes the one x (in my opinion). Plus there is a port of HTC sense 4.0 if you are a fan of sense!
sent from my GNexus rocking Jelly Bean!

thephoneguyusa said:
It will not be a regret! I was a fan of the build quality of the one x and its speed but the nexus with jb on it ownes the one x (in my opinion). Plus there is a port of HTC sense 4.0 if you are a fan of sense!
sent from my GNexus rocking Jelly Bean!
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Thanks for the reply mate. How does the battery life compare (screen on times)? And does the Nexus feel "cheap" this is one criticism i see levelled at it a lot. I have the option of the S3 but that does look ugly and cheap (too much chrome and too much shine as well as too much plastic.)
I will miss the One X's looks but I love the look of the Nexus, particularly on the front.
Could you give me a test of browser/flash performance? How is it on the Youtube website scrolling when the video is playing? Are button presses on the flash object (like pressing play/mute/pause) instant? I'm a heavy flash user (cricket/football/Sky Sports streaming) so this is important to me.

slvrarrow said:
Thanks for the reply mate. How does the battery life compare (screen on times)? And does the Nexus feel "cheap" this is one criticism i see levelled at it a lot. I have the option of the S3 but that does look ugly and cheap (too much chrome and too much shine as well as too much plastic.)
I will miss the One X's looks but I love the look of the Nexus, particularly on the front.
Could you give me a test of browser/flash performance? How is it on the Youtube website scrolling when the video is playing? Are button presses on the flash object (like pressing play/mute/pause) instant? I'm a heavy flash user (cricket/football/Sky Sports streaming) so this is important to me.
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Extremely smooth. Flash hasn't been updated for jb. However you can still use the one for ICS. I haven't used flash but everything else works great. The battery life does fine.
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shockem said:
Extremely smooth. Flash hasn't been updated for jb. However you can still use the one for ICS. I haven't used flash but everything else works great. The battery life does fine.
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Could someone test out http://www.computerandvideogames.com/ website on desktop mode and let me know scrolling performance/scrolling lag on the Nexus?

slvrarrow said:
Could someone test out http://www.computerandvideogames.com/ website on desktop mode and let me know scrolling performance/scrolling lag on the Nexus?
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Tried the page u posted, no lag or stutters whatsoever. The galaxy nexus stock browser is one of the smoothest and quickest browsers out there, even back on ics days, no need to mention JB, everything just flies
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rayiskon said:
Tried the page u posted, no lag or stutters whatsoever. The galaxy nexus stock browser is one of the smoothest and quickest browsers out there, even back on ics days, no need to mention JB, everything just flies
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Brilliant. Just trying to think of things I could throw at you lot here - I know what works smooth on the One X and what doesn't. For one thing CVG on desktop mode would have lag from when you put your finger on the screen to the actual scroll taking place.
PCgamer.com was also similarly troublesome on the One X.
What "Screen On" times can I expect with a Nexus? I get 3/4 hours on the One X

You'll get comparable screen on times. Most people get in the three to four hour range. Some less though, and I have seen upwards of five plus hours. A lot will depend on your setup and kernel of choice.
The One X is a nice phone, one that would be tempting to me, as I do like Htc's build quality.
The Nexus doesn't feel overly cheap to me or like to much plastic. I think that may be due to the Glass front and I run a cover so that kinds of changes the feel of the textured back to me.
I do really like the dev community and support that the Nexus receives. One of the reasons that it would be hard for me to leave the Nexus.
Good luck in your choice.

slvrarrow said:
Brilliant. Just trying to think of things I could throw at you lot here - I know what works smooth on the One X and what doesn't. For one thing CVG on desktop mode would have lag from when you put your finger on the screen to the actual scroll taking place.
PCgamer.com was also similarly troublesome on the One X.
What "Screen On" times can I expect with a Nexus? I get 3/4 hours on the One X
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Trust me, i owned htc and samsung phones, and since my htc desire days i stopped using stock browsers and dolphin was the main one on all phones that followed. after getting the gnex i was still skeptical about stock browsers, but it's really the best browser i've tried so far, adding to it's speed all the cool stuff like guick controls and inverted screen rendering, u just can't go wrong with it. Furthermore the jelly bean experience is far away from anything available on any other android device out there. I posted a youtube link a while ago about a review for JB on gnex , a part of the review concentrates on browser performance, i'll post the link here as soon as i get to my pc (don't feel like searching over my phone)
Edit: as for screen on times, it depends if u're planing to get the gsm or cdma (verizon/sprint) version. I have a gsm one and on ics i used to get continuosly over 5hrs screen on. On jb it dropped to ~ 4-4.5 hrs , i think Google Now is eating the battery, (giving me navigation and calculating traffic to home) even though i don't need it, and actually i'm still enjoying all these JB features so i guess i'll turn some of those uneeded gnow cards OFF soon, pretty sure it'll improve my battery life more
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I've gotten the best battery life of any Android phone on this one.
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Guys you're being ridiculously helpful and I'm seriously tempted to jack in the One X and get the Nexus tomorrow even!
That review you mentioned above would be great to see.
What JB ROM/Kernel combo would you recommend and could you point me in the direction of the thinnest case for the back of the phone?
I'd be on GSM in the UK BTW.
Does overclocking to the 4460's 1.5ghz massively impact battery life? And how effective is undervolting? I've read you can UV the CPU/GPU and Screen as well as another chip?
For the fella above that had the ONE X would you say the camera/screen is markedly better on the HTC or is it negligible? Screen more important than camera to me.
Also is this colour accuracy patch still in use with many Kernels? The ONE X screen is streets ahead in terms of colour IMO and this seems to certainly help? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1521195
Lastly just to reaffirm, scrolling performance with a flash video playing is instantaneous?

Don't even need 1.5ghz. Its smooth at 1036mhz.
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here is the vid i mentioned , it was done on the developer preview 4.1, the official 4.1.1 has been furthermore polished
also take a look at this
as for overclock, u don't need it

I too have a HOX and ordered a Nexus the other night. It'll be here tomorrow. I can give you a hands-on account of the switch after that!

chamme22 said:
I too have a HOX and ordered a Nexus the other night. It'll be here tomorrow. I can give you a hands-on account of the switch after that!
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What ROM are you running? I know HOX is getting JB but why keep it when I can have £100 spare and have a similar performing phone, with most support and instant AOSP pushes?
Please hurry with your account because I will probably be rushing off to make the exchange tomorrow myself! Haha

Achieved it yesterday. Well actually almost everyday. Stock jb with stock kernel. Only rooted deoxdexed, bigxie version. I don't use setcpu or anything. Gps and bluetooth on when needed. And since I don't use nfc, I turned it off and greatly improved the battery too. Auto sync are all on, auto-brightness n also plume updating every 30 minutes.
Btw, I use it alongside my one x too. The thing is, it's been 24 hours since I last touch my one x. Damn it that shows how much I love nexus and aosp! You won't regret it mate. I prefer using my nexus over one x in anything! Really tiring waiting for CM to come official for one x. Grrr...
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LuffyPSP said:
Achieved it yesterday. Well actually almost everyday. Stock jb with stock kernel. Only rooted deoxdexed, bigxie version. I don't use setcpu or anything. Gps and bluetooth on when needed. And since I don't use nfc, I turned it off and greatly improved the battery too. Auto sync are all on, auto-brightness n also plume updating every 30 minutes.
Btw, I use it alongside my one x too. The thing is, it's been 24 hours since I last touch my one x. Damn it that shows how much I love nexus and aosp! You won't regret it mate. I prefer using my nexus over one x in anything! Really tiring waiting for CM to come official for one x. Grrr...
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How much difference is there between the screen and camera? Can you see pixels on the screen of the nexus being pentile or is it as pin sharp as the One X (which looks like a magazine print to be honest).
How would you rate performance of the Nexus in relation to the One X ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMusBwaMKMw
The lag here worries me, its definitely not like that on the One X with ICS its butter smooth

You won't miss a damn thing. Go for it.
slvrarrow said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMusBwaMKMw
The lag here worries me, its definitely not like that on the One X with ICS its butter smooth
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That guy is a moron. Also, full YouTube can make some desktops cry.
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I can't say on the Stock Browser with Ics, as I was using Chrome. But on JB with the stock browser, I just opened Youtube, and had no lag at all. Very smooth. I've been really impressed with the improvements to the Stock Browser in JB. I tried Chrome, and it was choppy. With the performance of the Stock Browser, I see no reason to use anything else now though.
What everyone else has said about not needing to overclock. Very true. I run at 1036 with no issues. I will push it up to 1500 if I want to run a bench test, but other than that, there really is no reason for me to OC.
The Gpu can be OC'd. I haven't noticed a lot of difference between 384 and 512. I don't play a lot of labor intense games though. Jelly Defense and Ski Safari are the only two games I have installed at the moment. Even the stock 307 setting works fine for these.
I have tried a few of the Kernels, but have been using Trinity exclusively now for the past few months both on Ics and now on Jb. It's all subjective to personal taste though. If you make the switch, there are many Kernels and roms to choose from, all with there pluses.

My opinion Nexus vs One X

My Wife and I have had the Verizon Galaxy Nexus since Winter, I am a big Nexus, fan, having owned all three Nexus phones. But also had a few HTC phones too, over the years. Next to stock vanilla Android UI, I think Sense is the second best, but since JB, I am thinking stock Android is really the only UI to have now.
Anyways, getting sick of Verizon's prices, we want to move to the GSM Unlocked Nexus or "international" One X, my two Brothers have the Nexus from the Play Store running on Straight Talk for $45/month, and they LOVE it, zero issues whatsoever, and that would be well over 150% cheaper than what we pay on Verizon. Plus CDMA radios suck battery faster than GSM in my opinion. Standby time on GSM is better.
Long story short I found a mint condition "International" One X in white, on sale for $325. I picked the one up 10 days ago. Here is my opinion of it running Sense and CM10 based ROM's and comparing it to the Galaxy LTE Nexus.
First off, the white One X is an absolutely beautiful device, very cool looking phone, and high quality, the best looking Android phone ever sold, hands down no question. Makes the Nexus look cheap and poorly designed.
The Good;
- Screen is amazing, super clear and very sharp. Reading text and news websites is so clear and easy on the eyes. At first I thought it looked washed out and dull compared to Super AMOLED from Samsung, but after a few days, I started thinking the Samsung screen sucked now, it looked cartoony in colors, and whites blow on the Nexus, where as the One X, it looks so real and true in color, and super crisp sharp. The One X is the best screen on a smartphone today, better than the iPhone5 screen my Sister owns.
- Design of the phone, just a work of art.
- Size and weight, it is very thin, and lightweight.
- Battery life on Sense ROM's is amazing, 5 hours on screen time, easily 1 day + of heavy use, this Tegra 3 is a beast with a good Sense ROM and the right kernel. Crazy good battery life with the right setup of custom ROM and battery kernel.
- When CM10 ROM's are working well, they are beautiful on the One X, and run super smooth as "butter", and crazy fast, with zero lag whatsoever. CM10 makes the One X feel like a next generation Nexus-Four ( CM10 battery life is mentioned below, in the BAD file )
The Bad;
- No S-Off yet, and doubtful if ever. This is a major bad point to me. Installing ROM's and kernels is a pain in the **** on this phone, frustrating and stupid. Always have to have the phone plugged into the PC, and go into boot loader and flash the boot.img through Command prompt on your PC, then boot into Recovery and do the flashing, but only the ROM, then the kernel must also go through that long process too, after a full reboot. And updating ROM's still need to do it. Basically you can't just flash in recovery and be done, now way, it is a long drawn out process of bull****. And if you don;t have the correct boot.img flashed in Command Prompt, good luck.
- Sense sucks. I know Sense based ROM's have insane good battery life, but there is no JellyBean Sense yet officially, so they still 4.0.4 based, and Sense just looks outdated and like from Gingerbread still. I tried 4 different Sense ROM's all with custom options to make it look like AOSP, and LOL they don't look like AOSP, still has the Sense crap in menus and running behind the scenes. Ever since Google released Android 4.0 ICS, in my opinion, there is no more need need for Sense or Touchwizz, stock vanilla Android is just the best now.
- Custom AOSP ROM's = HOLY SH!T bad battery life. There are some cool CM10 ROM's for the "international" One X, but everyone one of them has bugs here and there, or stuff not working 100% yet. And battery life is a ****ing joke, easily 60% less, compared to Sense based ROM's. I tried 4 different CM10 ROM's with three of the top kernels, and battery just blew chunks. But CM10 does run lightning fast on the One X.
To wrap this up, My Wife and I still need to get one more "Unlocked" phone to use on Straight Talk, and I was all set originally on getting 2 International One X's, but now after 10 days with the HoX, I am for sure going back to a Nexus, and will buy a GSM Nexus off the Play Store. Stock vanilla Android running a Nexus device is the best.
I would definitely stick with the One X easily if they did two things; allowed S-Off for true Recovery flashing. And CM10 ROM's mature and get stable with good battery life. I do think those two might happen, at least CM10 should be much better after a few more weeks or a month, they just started the official Nightly's on the One X last week, so it needs more development time. And S-Off might happen once with One + phone is released with Jellybean, but that's a big maybe.
For now, I will stick with Nexus phone, like I have the last three years.

Zorachus said:
For now, I will stick with Nexus phone, like I have the last three years.
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Good choice. Both on the phone, and going contract free!

CodeNameNexus said:
Good choice. Both on the phone, and going contract free!
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If CM10 on the One X was stable and had good battery life, like it does on my Nexus, then for sure I much prefer stock Jellybean on the One X, it is a nicer phone, and is very fast and smooth.
But CM10 on the One X, is a long ways from being solid with battery life, I am sure needs a good month of development time still, and we shall see from there...but the developers working on CM10 ROM's for the HoX are very smart and good guys, they will figure it out sooner than later I am sure, and it will be just as good as Sense based ROM's hopefully.
Now if the Nexus 5 rumors are true, which says it will be a HTC One X+ type of phone, I would welcome that BIG TIME, it is a very nice phone, just needs stock vanilla Android made specifically for it, and S-Off.

Nexus is about software not hardware at most what they try to innovate on is display which it the time was top of the line
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Since you're using the HoX GSM (Int'l version) I thought I'd ask here - my brother has it and every so often the signal drops out - he's on stock firmware no root etc. Signals are fine for the same network, in the same place, on my GNex though. It's the second HoX my bro is using after we exchanged the first thinking it was faulty but the same signal inconsistency shows up on the new one as well. I've read that there might be some issues with the HoX signals (radios?), Have U noticed anything of the sort? He's thinking of switching to the SGS3 or GNex because of this prob. (Physically, gotta agree with you, It's a beautiful piece of hardware, wonderful to hold and use)
Thanks.

This was the heart of the matter for me with my s3 before I changed it for a nexus. The dev team working on the port of cm10 are excellent but due to samsungs source issues, they have not been able to get it bug free yet.
After sticking with it for a while I decided it would never be as good as Jb on the nexus. That's why I changed

Am I the only one that thinks the One X is more on the fugly side of the fence?

Fwiw a custom kernel such as Franco on the Gnex will let you tweak the colors and make the whites truly white again. While I agree the onex has an amazing screen, and my greyish-blue tinted screen used to bother me, after flashing Franco kernel, and using some settings found in various xda threads, my display finally looks much better. Whites look white, and it's not as cartoony as you put it.
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djexacto said:
Fwiw a custom kernel such as Franco on the Gnex will let you tweak the colors and make the whites truly white again. While I agree the onex has an amazing screen, and my greyish-blue tinted screen used to bother me, after flashing Franco kernel, and using some settings found in various xda threads, my display finally looks much better. Whites look white, and it's not as cartoony as you put it.
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Yea the franco color tweaks are amazing. :good:

Guiding.God said:
Since you're using the HoX GSM (Int'l version) I thought I'd ask here - my brother has it and every so often the signal drops out - he's on stock firmware no root etc. Signals are fine for the same network, in the same place, on my GNex though. It's the second HoX my bro is using after we exchanged the first thinking it was faulty but the same signal inconsistency shows up on the new one as well. I've read that there might be some issues with the HoX signals (radios?), Have U noticed anything of the sort? He's thinking of switching to the SGS3 or GNex because of this prob. (Physically, gotta agree with you, It's a beautiful piece of hardware, wonderful to hold and use)
Thanks.
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Had the same problem with htc one s, could be an HTC made issue. But, either way if you have the problem as my wife and I both had, it is a horrible experience.
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speedyink said:
Am I the only one that thinks the One X is more on the fugly side of the fence?
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a agree with you

If LCD could have the blacks of amoled I would consider it. I just can't stand the grey/blue black on LCD's specially from angles.
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@ the OP.
My other phone is a tmo branded SGS2 which came with touchwiz. There are a bunch of aosp roms for it, however the battery life sucks in all of them.

jordanishere said:
@ the OP.
My other phone is a tmo branded SGS2 which came with touchwiz. There are a bunch of aosp roms for it, however the battery life sucks in all of them.
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Get a RAZR if you want android and battery life
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Over the weekend I installed the latest CM10 for the One X, and man has it improved greatly. Very stable now, with much better battery life. The standby time on the One X is amazing on battery life. And on screen time, I can go 4 hours screen time, unplugged a full day before battery drains, where as my Verizon Nexus is lucky to get 2.5 hours screen time, and dead in 12 - 14 hours. I know the GSM Nexus is substantially better on battery, it seems the Verizon Nexus just plain sucks. And I never use 4G/LTE, and battery life still sucks. I have installed different ROM's, different kernels, no sync, no GPS, no 4G, and using it daily I just can't get long battery life.

How's WiFi and data connectivity on one x as stock? I hear people are having problems with that.
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IMHO HTC One series are well made. Where as Samsung seems to like producing plastic fantastic phones, the HTC Ones are metal and have premium grade feel to it.
I agree Sense and Touchwiz... along with whatever mfg over-lays should go the way of the dinosaur. Let Android be Android.

Haven't had the chance to really check out any of the new One series phones, but I loved the build quality of my Evo. Felt solid and well constructed. It's the only thing about my Nexus that I might call a gripe. Just feels a little under built. With some extra care I don't think it will be a problem in the long term, but it does make me a bit nervous. We've all had that klutzy moment!
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Got a SH26W One X. Wifi is somehow better than the 2 previous HOX batches I got. But it's still that I sometimes get no connection for no reason.
But HOX had some serius production faults, e.g. bad Wifi antenna connection, screen ripple, screen flex and so on... Gotta say that my GNEX's production quality is much better than my HOX's... But HOX has lotta more power, 4 sure
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As someone previously said, the Nexus line is not for top of the line hardware. Newer phones such as the HTC One X and Galaxy SIII are going to obviously win out in hardware and probably build quality, but when the next version of Android comes out I can tell you who will have it first, and that is all that matters to me. Especially since the hardware on both of those phones will be outdated in a couple months.

[Q] Upgrade day coming up

I'm sure that this is the wrong place for this, and yes, I did search, but....here goes anyways:
I think I've narrowed it down to the Nexus 5 or the G2. I've been very happy with LG in the past, and see no reason not to keep it up. Here's how I see the competition:
Nexus 5 pros: Price, "pure" Android, HUGE aftermarket support, wireless charging.
G2 pros: IR blaster, camera, battery, slightly larger display.
I know there are other differences, these are just the ones that jump out to me. I would be 100% sold on the G2, if not for the fact that it's not running 4.4 out of the box. I use group text at work a lot, and have yet to find a replacement SMS/MMS app I like as much as stock.
If it matters, I'm on Sprint (unlimited data) and currently have the OG running CM11.
So.....thoughts? Preferences? Experience?

I highly recommend the HTC one. I got one and had to give it to my wife after she had a mishap with her phone and water. Anyway, was by far the best phone experience for me. Plus if you are into rooting you have the Google play edition roms which is pure android I think. Camera and video editing software are second to none. My two cents. I have and lgog but as soon as best buy has the one for $50 again I'm upgrading.
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I'd prefer the G2, if you do root, you'll have the same phone when you start flashing stuff pretty much. Except you'll have the amazing battery and screen of the G2
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morganstein said:
I'm sure that this is the wrong place for this, and yes, I did search, but....here goes anyways:
I think I've narrowed it down to the Nexus 5 or the G2. I've been very happy with LG in the past, and see no reason not to keep it up. Here's how I see the competition:
Nexus 5 pros: Price, "pure" Android, HUGE aftermarket support, wireless charging.
G2 pros: IR blaster, camera, battery, slightly larger display.
I know there are other differences, these are just the ones that jump out to me. I would be 100% sold on the G2, if not for the fact that it's not running 4.4 out of the box. I use group text at work a lot, and have yet to find a replacement SMS/MMS app I like as much as stock.
If it matters, I'm on Sprint (unlimited data) and currently have the OG running CM11.
So.....thoughts? Preferences? Experience?
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You selling your old phone?

oohaylima said:
You selling your old phone?
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I'm planning on hanging on to it. Let my son use it for gaming.

I have an lgog I'll sell. Great condition. Pm me if interested.
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Jessooca said:
My daily is a G2 ... i got the G2 and then I then got an s4 and I am back to a G2.... The battery life is tremendously better on the G2 and the phone can do it all. Sure The S4 is a feature laden phone so I suggest looking at all the bells and whistles on their respective sites. In all honestly the whole not having 4.4 is over rated. The G2 flies and the camera is great on both. I think if you remember you can return or exchange your phone within 14 days you should go get the G2 and my bet is that you won't want to give it up.
Once the Nexus 5 came out my friend got one. I spent the day with it and as nice and all as it is being fairly debloated I still feel like the build quality is cheap. I've had an htc one and well my opinion is that's it still has the same things I disliked with the other htc's I've owned. They did a great job with the phone itself but they need to redo sense.
The G2 really is that good, as for the Nexus 5, to me it just felt cheap. I'd wait 2 weeks for the LG Flex to come out for sprint as the one for at&t is Holy Cow! A maze ing.
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What is your normal battery life on the G2? I'm just curious. And the G2 is definitely a higher end phone than the Nexus5, the only area I feel like the Nexus5 trumps the G2 in is developer support. But give it time and I'm sure the G2 will catch up. That's the main upside to Nexus devices in general, they are made to essentially be hacked. I also agree that a lot of 4.4 is just overrated. However, where some of the devs are taking AOSP 4.4 is pretty awesome, Omni specifically. The stock camera app that came on my lgog is world's ahead of the android camera so I bet the G2 is even better.
When the 2 phones came out I would have taken a Nexus5 because custom roms and support here at xda is one of the most important things to me, but the G2 is catching up and has better specs.
I wish Sprint would get the xperia line, currently the only phone I would take over a G2 is an xperia z1. 20.7mp camera and removable storage? Yes please! And it survived the same drop test as the Flex(which failed miserably) with only minor scratches on the side.
But currently, I'd actually keep my lgog over either of them because of this community. It's not important to most users, but to me, it makes all the difference.
EDIT: Looking at the G2 forums, it seems as though it's already made some serious strides in development. I keep forgetting @Lrod0175 got a G2 - that guy makes some quality roms.

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Total hours each charge 17 to 23 hours. Never less than 17 yet. It fluctuates as I can say when I used pandora on the s4 on my daily 12 mile bike ride it drained horribly. The G2 hardly drops at all. Yes there is little on here for the G2 but I can say once you've rooted it and removed what you don't care for there really is little left you'll want to do to it. The camera like the lgog is imo more clear than any of the others.
You can't go wrong with either choice. I say if your mind is set on the nexus 5, get the G2 and use it for 3 days. If you're not blown away and in love just take it back to sprint and get the nexus 5. The knock on feature is great.
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Thank you for the info and easing my curiosity(it can be a bit much sometimes). And I also feel the same way about my lgog. I flash every rom under the sun but I still go back to the stock I've been modifying and backing up since day one.
My lgog's battery fluctuates as well. GTA San Andreas is a battery hog no matter what I do. The reason I asked is because I never get less than 24 hours on the ls970 - my record was 30 hours with 7 hours screen on time. I don't have the higher capacity battery either. So many people seem to get abysmal battery stats with it.
Viper1.1 kernel made an immediate improvement, I never use auto brightness, if I'm not using it(3g, gps, whatever) it's turned off. I turned the capacitive lights off altogether as well. And greenify helps a lot. I also undervolt as much as possible. But I took this earlier tonight(I would have taken another one but started playing San Andreas again and just put it on the charger while I was). Most people don't think this sort of battery life is even possible with the lgog - just shows what constant tinkering can accomplish!
EDIT: Sorry @morganstein for just dropping my battery stats in your thread and getting off topic.

SO! How are you finding your shiney new HTC M9 ?? Is it all you thought it would be?

As the title states.
Personally I love this phone, it's kind of like a really cool car, like an alpha romeo which has it's faults but just for the simple fact of the way it's made and the way it feels, I wouldn't change it.
EDIT: Maybe the battery life
Feel free to have a moan

I love the case I have and the way it perfectly matches the phone. It's a body glove and the phone is the darker one.
Video won't resume when going from the recent apps. It opens then disappears.
I love the speakers on front. When HTC did that year's ago I was amazed. Then I thought everyone should. I think it's crazy stupid not to. Sounds good too.
Screen is OK. I'd like bigger though and way better viewing angle. Gets dark when it's laying flat on my bed and I'm reading the web. I don't want to always hold it.
Keyboard is terrible in my opinion. Samsung works way better for me. I want keys a bit bigger and darker with numbers on top and much better auto correction. Swiftkey didn't work well enough for me.
Performance seems iffy. I mean I don't know if this is how things should be. I had the Verizon GS5 for 6 months like the 5th of this month so I'm used to that phone. Games sometimes jerk and seem to load no faster then on my GS5. They seem to crash much more. Games like the clash games, star Wars commander etc. Those types are all I play.
I want to disable apps I won't use so they're not always running. But this can cause issues maybe.
Battery needs a ton of help. Wish all phones had the power and 5000 mah battery would give.
I prefer Sense a little to tw and others based on color and lines separating options more in setting menus etc. Seems a bit more clean.
Have couple more days to return my phone and I'm not sure if I want to keep this and exchange for another or get a g3 or gs6. G4 not out for awhile still.

@buggs1a I hear you with the battery it isn't great but then I haven't tried to optimise it very much, once I cut out all the dead wood and find the wake locks it should be a lot better. 2 days is a possibility depending on usage. Haven't noticed the playback from video as I use MX player. Give it a whirl and use auto starts to kill off apps

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I love the case I have and the way it perfectly matches the phone. It's a body glove and the phone is the darker one.
Video won't resume when going from the recent apps. It opens then disappears.
I love the speakers on front. When HTC did that year's ago I was amazed. Then I thought everyone should. I think it's crazy stupid not to. Sounds good too.
Screen is OK. I'd like bigger though and way better viewing angle. Gets dark when it's laying flat on my bed and I'm reading the web. I don't want to always hold it.
Keyboard is terrible in my opinion. Samsung works way better for me. I want keys a bit bigger and darker with numbers on top and much better auto correction. Swiftkey didn't work well enough for me.
Performance seems iffy. I mean I don't know if this is how things should be. I had the Verizon GS5 for 6 months like the 5th of this month so I'm used to that phone. Games sometimes jerk and seem to load no faster then on my GS5. They seem to crash much more. Games like the clash games, star Wars commander etc. Those types are all I play.
I want to disable apps I won't use so they're not always running. But this can cause issues maybe.
Battery needs a ton of help. Wish all phones had the power and 5000 mah battery would give.
I prefer Sense a little to tw and others based on color and lines separating options more in setting menus etc. Seems a bit more clean.
Have couple more days to return my phone and I'm not sure if I want to keep this and exchange for another or get a g3 or gs6. G4 not out for awhile still.
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I would return it if I were you. Because much of what you mention, are not real issues, but are areas that just don't meet your desires. The screen is not going to grow, the battery is not going to grow, and the keyboard is what it is. I'm surprised you couldn't find a skin for Swiftkey that satisfied your needs. Also, it sounds like you may have an issue with your phone, as mine is buttery smooth, no crashes.
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I would return it if I were you. Because much of what you mention, are not real issues, but are areas that just don't meet your desires. The screen is not going to grow, the battery is not going to grow, and the keyboard is what it is. I'm surprised you couldn't find a skin for Swiftkey that satisfied your needs. Also, it sounds like you may have an issue with your phone, as mine is buttery smooth, no crashes.
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Although the battery will get better with updates

I'm averaging close to 5.5 hours of SOT on a full charge, but I'm with AT&T and am typically always in an area with a reputable signal. Apart from actual usage, and assuming there are no wakelocks going on, a phones signal is the biggest battery drainer. No signal or a weak signal will keep the phone signal searching and cause more drain on the battery. For this reason, I agree, battery life can be improved thru updates, especially if the radio firmware sees an update.
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Keyboard is terrible in my opinion. Samsung works way better for me. I want keys a bit bigger and darker with numbers on top and much better auto correction. Swiftkey didn't work well enough for me.
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I've been using the Minuum keyboard and have grown to really like it. At times it will frustrate me with it's auto-correction, but what keyboard doesn't? They have a free version to try, so maybe give it a spin.
I'm in agreement that the battery goes quick when power saver is not active. I have a feeling that it will improve with newer versions of Lollipop, Sense and perhaps even changed HTC bits that optimize the phone's performance on the 810 chipset.
Let us know which way you go...

I really like the phone! I had the S6 Edge just prior to this and went to Verizon to turn it in as I suddenly caught the auto rotate bug. The rep said this hasnt been fixed and that if it happens again I would have to go through Sammy to get a new one. Not wanting to do that I looked at the M9 and have been really happy since. It is comparable in almost every way to the S6. I do miss the edge on the edge LOL but that is sort of gimmicky.

I bought the M9 when it first came out and was very dissapointed... the first one was returned for overheating which didnt start well, I was annoyed at myself for impulse buying,. but after picking it up again a few days ago Im actually stating to enjoy it...
The camera has been improved alot (but not amazing) through the 1st firmware update and an updated camera app from the Play Store (Raw Format added) which makes me feel better about it.. although Cam still needs work. Boomsound Music Mode is great, as good as the M8.. and not the reported tinney-ness some reviews are reporting. It just has all the things I loved about the M8. For me though that "Sense Home" widget and start screen.. I dont know how this is a good idea, I find it drains the battery like nothing else, using location and tracking...
So far, battery life seems ok, I get about 2 days on Light to Modersate use - Music, Camera, BlinkFeed, I do actually like BF.. but so far.. Im happy with my M9, really like the added "Themes" engine... a nice touch.
It wouldve been nice to see HTC bump up the screen to 5.2 or even 5.5" @ 1080p (I think QHD screens on a device less than 7" is a bit unnecessary) . Just something to seperate it from the M8 other than a camera and Themes
I just hope HTC can get through this and pull out the stops for the M10.. now that Samsung are leaping their way back from the S5 fall with the S6 and LG with the amazing G4, It aint looking good for HTC. For me, they just didnt try hard enough, they just gave into internet pressure, relaced the camera and hoped for the best.. which wasnt a wise thing to do 3 years in a row from the M7.
M9 for me is looking great, just needs some fine tuning, which will hopefully come in 5.1

I exchanged my m9 for the g3 Friday yesterday. And I don't get it how videos show it has themes, but it don't.

No complaints at all coming from Xperia Z3 to M9. Happy I made the switch.

In fact it is the same feeling
It is too powerful to be contained, which is a really good thing
From the way Htc treats its flagships via software updates, i can see that this powerful machine will be even more optimised and speedy, and will get improvement in every area!
If you are not aware, the Taiwan M9 recieved an update to its base from 1.32 to 1.40 with some massive camera improvements! And it is said that people are getting past the 6 hours screen on time with the latest update, as well as reporting that the phone is a Lot cooler than the 1.32 base
So that is very great news indeed, which makes me feel very optimistic!
You see? Improved battery life, improved thermal management, improved camera performance! This is awesome
And still android 5.1.1 will boost the mobile's general perfromance with a lot of misc bug fixes and enhancements by google. The future is bright for this phone, i see

Mostafa Wael said:
In fact it is the same feeling
It is too powerful to be contained, which is a really good thing
From the way Htc treats its flagships via software updates, i can see that this powerful machine will be even more optimised and speedy, and will get improvement in every area!
If you are not aware, the Taiwan M9 recieved an update to its base from 1.32 to 1.40 with some massive camera improvements! And it is said that people are getting past the 6 hours screen on time with the latest update, as well as reporting that the phone is a Lot cooler than the 1.32 base
So that is very great news indeed, which makes me feel very optimistic!
You see? Improved battery life, improved thermal management, improved camera performance! This is awesome
And still android 5.1.1 will boost the mobile's general perfromance with a lot of misc bug fixes and enhancements by google. The future is bright for this phone, i see
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Im still on 1.32 mate, I'm running Leedroid and I'd rather he got all the issues sorted prior to a release, I've heard good and bad about 1.40, some lag with proximity and opening screen. Camera is improved by all accounts. Will see what happens.
Cheers.

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Im still on 1.32 mate, I'm running Leedroid and I'd rather he got all the issues sorted prior to a release, I've heard good and bad about 1.40, some lag with proximity and opening screen. Camera is improved by all accounts. Will see what happens.
Cheers.
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I guess that's why the 1.40 isn't rolled out to the .401 region

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I guess that's why the 1.40 isn't rolled out to the .401 region
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Not entirely sure as to why it hasn't been rolled out, I can see Lee, leapfrogging this version and going for the next one, the issues at this point appear to outweigh the benefits, besides the camera ofc

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Not entirely sure as to why it hasn't been rolled out, I can see Lee, leapfrogging this version and going for the next one, the issues at this point appear to outweigh the benefits, besides the camera ofc
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That is pure speculation on your part, unless you have some concrete evidence you can link us to.

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That is pure speculation on your part, unless you have some concrete evidence you can link us to.
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Just things I've heard around the threads to be honest. Not speculating at all..
Beyond the apparently improved camera which in all fairness isn't that much of an improvement, the white balance isn't fixed and its still far too sharp, I've heard about random reboots etc, some of this is in Lees thread too
Do a bit of reading and you'll see for yourself, I don't just make things up and I'm not about to continue a heated debate especially when someone is presumptuous towards me.

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Just things I've heard around the threads to be honest. Not speculating at all..
Beyond the apparently improved camera which in all fairness isn't that much of an improvement, the white balance isn't fixed and its still far too sharp, I've heard about random reboots etc, some of this is in Lees thread too
Do a bit of reading and you'll see for yourself, I don't just make things up and I'm not about to continue a heated debate especially when someone is presumptuous towards me.
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I do plenty of reading and what I have seen is improved camera, improved battery life, and a slight improvement performance wise. I'm not looking for a heated debate. I just haven't seen much posted in the way of negatives, yet you say the negatives outweigh the positives, which is why I ask for some links. Now, I'm talking stock. If a developer takes the base and his custom rom causes reboots, that's on him.

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I do plenty of reading and what I have seen is improved camera, improved battery life, and a slight improvement performance wise. I'm not looking for a heated debate. I just haven't seen much posted in the way of negatives, yet you say the negatives outweigh the positives, which is why I ask for some links. Now, I'm talking stock. If a developer takes the base and his custom rom causes reboots, that's on him.
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Do you have a point to make about your phone? Is there something you'd like to share about the m9? Did you read the title of the thread?
You've jumped on other people and have challenged each of them towards their point. But you yourself have said nothing and contributed nothing towards the thread, that's actually trolling, this Is not a thread for that, this is for people to have their say.. How can they do that or want to with you waiting there for everyone? Move on or contribute

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Do you have a point to make about your phone? Is there something you'd like to share about the m9? Did you read the title of the thread?
You've jumped on other people and have challenged each of them towards their point. But you yourself have said nothing and contributed nothing towards the thread, that's actually trolling, this Is not a thread for that, this is for people to have their say.. How can they do that or want to with you waiting there for everyone? Move on or contribute
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I think this phone is beast mode, granted I'm coming from the EVOLTE, but I picked HTC for sound and it's GPU power which is better than its competition. Only thing that upsets me is consumer reviews and the fact that this device got bashed because of the m9+ released in the foreign market and users thinking it was so much better because of a slightly bigger screen and finger print scanner. I just hope this "hero" device they are talking about releasing doesn't deter development on the m9. Just my opinion