[Q] Rooting and warranty - T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989

Hello all,
I have a friend that is wanting to uninstall the T-Mobile pre installed CRAPPS. Since the only way to do so is by rooting, he has questioned if rooting his GS2 will void his mfg warranty. Since I Sid not know and do not own a galaxy I figured I would ask here. Thanks in advanced.
-T
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Yes it does but if your friend messes up his phone and needs to send it to tmobile I recommend to flash stock on it via Odin and then send it in.

pyrocide said:
Hello all,
I have a friend that is wanting to uninstall the T-Mobile pre installed CRAPPS. Since the only way to do so is by rooting, he has questioned if rooting his GS2 will void his mfg warranty. Since I Sid not know and do not own a galaxy I figured I would ask here. Thanks in advanced.
-T
Sent from H1S using xda Prem
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Technically it does, and if Samsung finds out that you did root it, they have the right to not honor the warranty. However, it's relatively easy to keep them from finding out that you rooted it. The basic outline of how to do it is this:
1) Flash this in CWM.
2) Flash stock kernel in CWM.
3) Flash stock ROM in Odin.
The order is important as you should only flash ROMs (and not kernels) through Odin otherwise you will trip a flash counter that Samsung can see. The first link resets the counter if you have already flashed a kernel through Odin.

Rooting will void your warranty; however, as the previous poster said, you can "unroot" and tmobile/samsung wouldn't find out in case you need a warranty repair/replacement.

yoft1 said:
Technically it does, and if Samsung finds out that you did root it, they have the right to not honor the warranty. However, it's relatively easy to keep them from finding out that you rooted it. The basic outline of how to do it is this:
1) Flash this in CWM.
2) Flash stock kernel in CWM.
3) Flash stock ROM in Odin.
The order is important as you should only flash ROMs (and not kernels) through Odin otherwise you will trip a flash counter that Samsung can see. The first link resets the counter if you have already flashed a kernel through Odin.
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I was curious about the flash counter because I see that there is a flashable zip to reset it but I've flashed everything I can think of to this phone at least once and never made it say anything but no lol so thanks for the clarification :thumbup:
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yoft1 said:
Technically it does, and if Samsung finds out that you did root it, they have the right to not honor the warranty. However, it's relatively easy to keep them from finding out that you rooted it. The basic outline of how to do it is this:
1) Flash this in CWM.
2) Flash stock kernel in CWM.
3) Flash stock ROM in Odin.
The order is important as you should only flash ROMs (and not kernels) through Odin otherwise you will trip a flash counter that Samsung can see. The first link resets the counter if you have already flashed a kernel through Odin.
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The stock file you flash in Odin includes the kernel either way. I've never had it trip the flash counter.
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Towle said:
The stock file you flash in Odin includes the kernel either way. I've never had it trip the flash counter.
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As long as it's the stock official kernel it will not trip the counter

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UNROOT sgh-t999v

i need to unroot my s3 for warranty purposes but i cannot find proper procedures for the the model sgh-t999v..
i have 2 questions,
1. can i just root a stock rom for sgh-t999 to my sgh-t999v?
2. anyone have the procedures to unroot my sgh-t999v
thanks
Flash a stock rooted Rom. T-Mobile one. That seems to be ok as long as you don't flash a T-Mobile radio.
Not sure if triangle away works on the Canadian version.
Maybe someone else has tried it.
All I had to do to return my last one was flash a stock rooted Rom.
I don't think they check the flash counter
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If the Rom has some T-Mobile bloat left on it get it off there.
Hide superuser in a folder
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Thanks, ill try it tonight
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Or you can download the actual fw for your device. You will have to register but its no big deal.
Www.sammobile.com/firmware
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I can see you have a Videotron Galaxy S3. They don't check the flash counter. Let's just say I know this "by experience". As long as it's just rooted and you don't have any custom ROM, you should be fine. But indeed if you can at least hide the SU app it would be a good thing.
You could also perform a factory reset in CWM prior to going to the store, as they will make you do it anyways (and you actually don't want them to see the CWM screen)prior to any exchange. It's company policy.
lightpsycho said:
I can see you have a Videotron Galaxy S3. They don't check the flash counter. Let's just say I know this "by experience". As long as it's just rooted and you don't have any custom ROM, you should be fine. But indeed if you can at least hide the SU app it would be a good thing.
You could also perform a factory reset in CWM prior to going to the store, as they will make you do it anyways (and you actually don't want them to see the CWM screen)prior to any exchange. It's company policy.
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It's still probably safer to just use Triangle Away to get rid of the flash counter
Triangle away? Please explain
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yukuansu said:
Triangle away? Please explain
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Heres everything to know about triangle away, it resets the flash counter...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494114
Jake
T-Mobile & SGH-T999V
Hi,
Can we use the T-Mobile stock recovery on SGH-T999V?
flyerspat said:
Hi,
Can we use the T-Mobile stock recovery on SGH-T999V?
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If your trying to go back to stock, just download the stock rom from sammobile, it has everything you need like stock recovery, and then just flash it via odin.
htc fan89 said:
If your trying to go back to stock, just download the stock rom from sammobile, it has everything you need like stock recovery, and then just flash it via odin.
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Hi,
The only downloads availables are the firmwares, does it include the stock recovery in it?
flyerspat said:
Hi,
The only downloads availables are the firmwares, does it include the stock recovery in it?
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Yes it should be the full fw which includes radio, recovery and more.
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Thanks!
I'll test it tonight, wouldn't look good to download a 700 mb file at work!
I tried a few firmwares, but for some reason they all said "unsupport dev_type" when trying to use odin to return to stock non root (from stock rooted) In the end, the easiest way to remove root was to just let Kies update my gs3 to Jelly Bean (sgh-t999v). Painless, no data loss, took about 30 minutes with the firmware download.
Good luck
You will likely also want to triangle away. I won't link because it's extremely dangerous software that requires you to read up on the risks.
But that will reset your custom flashes assuming you have some on your counter you can check easily by going into download mode.
i recently lost my stock rom backup.. deleted it off clockworkmod touch by accident, so i only have the cm10.1 nightly i was running when i deleted it.. now i'm assuming i will lose root if i flash the stock firmware through odin? is there another way to get my stock rom back without losing root (and cyanogenmod rom backups)?
hey guys im having trouble with triangle away on my sgh-t999v with the baseband version: T999VVLUFNF1
after I used triangle away and I go into download mode it says:
current binary: Samsung Official
System status: official
qualcomm secureboot:enable
Warranty Bit:1
Bootloader AP SWAEV: 2
Although the current binary and the system status have changed the warranty bit is still at 1
Please help!
There is no way (and never will be a way) to change the Warranty Bit. Sorry
DocHoliday77 said:
There is no way (and never will be a way) to change the Warranty Bit. Sorry
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I guess im screwed for warranty..I thought it might be cuz I have a custom kernal installed that triangle away didnt work..but thanks anyway and sorry about posting in multiple threads, im kinda new to this
No problem, thats why i mention it, so you know for the future.
Tecnically, with the warranty bit tripped, the warranty is void. However, i have seen a lot of posts where people sent it in anyway and their warranty was still honored. Its not a guarantee, but there is hope it can be used if needed. The good thing though, is you most likely will never need to use it anyway!

[Q] Safest root method?

Hello, I just received my Galaxy S3, I came from the S2. I'm seeing multiple ways to root/new recovery this device, From your general experience with this device what is the safest way? I do not want to trip the flash counter. Thanks!
-John
Probably easiest way to do this is to Odin a stock image with root already injected.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426
The link above will provide this. As always be sure to read and understand before going ahead, it is important to download the proper image for your model and carrier. After a successful flash, you may encounter a Bootloop . If this happens boot into recovery and do a factory reset, reboot and enjoy your newly rooted phone.
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Thanks!
Also keep in mind, especially with stock Jellybean, that installing and booting into any custom recovery, like CWM or TWRP, will trip the flash counter.
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ghangunt additional
Just get triangle away app if you trip the counter. works great
there's a thread in android development about rooting
but tbh though, S3 is one of the easiest device to root since we don't need to unlock bootloader, etc...and rooting s3 is fast too

[Q] Upgrading to 4.3... some questions beforehand

Hi there,
I haven't been updated on rooting and all that jazz in a while, so please excuse my ignorance.
I have a Galaxy S3 (SGH-T999) on 4.1.2. It's stock rooted, but I don't have a custom Recovery or anything on it. I didn't (and don't) want to trip the root counter.
Is there a way to upgrade my phone to 4.3, have root working, and not trip the root counter? (Basically, what I currently have, except on 4.3)
Also, I Googled this new Knox feature I've seen people talk about, it seems like a lot of people here don't like it-- should I not want it on my phone too?
Happy holidays,
-Proxin
The counter is easy enough to reset if still on 4.1.2, so your best bet is to install a custom recovery through odin, then flash docholiday's 4.3 stock deknoxed rom and the new modem, and the at&t kernel for working wifi. This way you can use triangle away to reset the flash counter. If you install 4.3 with 4.3 firmware, you will not be able to root without tripping the knox counter.
Hope this helps
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masondoctorjt said:
The counter is easy enough to reset if still on 4.1.2, so your best bet is to install a custom recovery through odin, then flash docholiday's 4.3 stock deknoxed rom and the new modem, and the at&t kernel for working wifi. This way you can use triangle away to reset the flash counter. If you install 4.3 with 4.3 firmware, you will not be able to root without tripping the knox counter.
Hope this helps
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From what I understood back in the day when I got root, if you installed a custom recovery, you either triggered the counter or lost all your data/wiped the phone. Is that still the case?
Edit: Or was it un-tripping the counter that caused the data to wipe?
If you want 4.3 touchwiz, root, and a warranty, all at the same time, don't take the official update.
Instead, flash the 4.3 ROM zip, 4.3 modem, and a compatible kernel, using twrp or cwm recovery.
If you ever need to odin, do not use any version newer than MD5 or you are stuck with Knox and can never go back.
Sent from my T999L on PACman
Proxin said:
From what I understood back in the day when I got root, if you installed a custom recovery, you either triggered the counter or lost all your data/wiped the phone. Is that still the case?
Edit: Or was it un-tripping the counter that caused the data to wipe?
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It still triggers the counter, but it can be reset. It did not wipe my data, but backup just in case. Resetting the counter did not wipe data either. But do not update to the official 4.3 if you want to root and still have a warranty.
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Uh oh. I searched around for guides on updating like you guys said, and followed the guide here which promised root, 4.3, and no root counter... and now I can't use root, even though I installed a pre-rooted ROM.
I'm on 4.3 now, but don't have the ability to use root. I don't seem to have the Knox thing though.
I don't understand why I don't have root on a rooted ROM... what should I do?
Edit: This is the exact version I used: root66_TMO_T999UVUEMJC.tar.md5
Proxin said:
Uh oh. I searched around for guides on updating like you guys said, and followed the guide here which promised root, 4.3, and no root counter... and now I can't use root, even though I installed a pre-rooted ROM.
I'm on 4.3 now, but don't have the ability to use root. I don't seem to have the Knox thing though.
I don't understand why I don't have root on a rooted ROM... what should I do?
Edit: This is the exact version I used: root66_TMO_T999UVUEMJC.tar.md5
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To fix root, enable developer options by pressing build number 7 times, then enable root access for apps and adb under dev options.
MJC is TW 4.3 which includes knox. AFAIK the root66 version has knox removed from the rom, but it is impossible to remove it from the bootloader.
Adreaver said:
To fix root, enable developer options by pressing build number 7 times, then enable root access for apps and adb under dev options.
MJC is TW 4.3 which includes knox. AFAIK the root66 version has knox removed from the rom, but it is impossible to remove it from the bootloader.
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I checked in developer options after pressing the build number 7 times, but I don't see anything about enabling root in there...
Do I have to re-root somehow? If so, will that throw off the counter?
Proxin said:
Uh oh. I searched around for guides on updating like you guys said, and followed the guide here which promised root, 4.3, and no root counter... and now I can't use root, even though I installed a pre-rooted ROM.
I'm on 4.3 now, but don't have the ability to use root. I don't seem to have the Knox thing though.
I don't understand why I don't have root on a rooted ROM... what should I do?
Edit: This is the exact version I used: root66_TMO_T999UVUEMJC.tar.md5
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That's why posts need read completely. It clearly says it will trip the Knox counter in 4.3 in the second paragraph of the first post under "4.3 notes" sorry that happened though.:banghead: Maybe someday someone will come up with a knox bypass in the bootloader.
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masondoctorjt said:
That's why posts need read completely. It clearly says it will trip the Knox counter in 4.3 in the second paragraph of the first post under "4.3 notes" sorry that happened though.:banghead: Maybe someday someone will come up with a knox bypass in the bootloader.
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I don't understand-- it seems like it says Knox is removed in order for root to stick:
4.3 Image Notes: With 4.3 images, KNOX is removed in order for root to stick. This will flag the Knox counter. Once you flash one of these 4.3 images you now have the latest factory stock bootloader, radio, etc. Flashing a prior bootloader can hard/soft brick your device. Please read and understand what you are doing.
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I took it to mean root will flag the Knox counter so it has been removed from the images.
The wording is very ambiguous...
I'm pretty close to just nuking my install and starting over with CyanogenMod, not caring if I trip the counter or not. Is it possible to do so with the current setup, or will I end up with a brick/semibrick somehow? I figure I might as well, since rooting will likely trip the counter anyway.
Yes lol
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pgarcia777 said:
Yes lol
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"It has been removed", it being Knox haha. That's how I understood it...
So yes, it's possible to get CyanogenMod working without a brick or semi-brick coming from this version I installed?
Yes, I could have been worded better. You can flash other
ROMs but make sure they don't include an older bootloader or your device will brick from what I understand.
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masondoctorjt said:
Yes, I could have been worded better. You can flash other
ROMs but make sure they don't include an older bootloader or your device will brick from what I understand.
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I ended up just saying "eff it" and hopped onto CyanogenMod. Probably tripped the root counter, but by now I just don't care anymore.
Thanks for helping me in this thread though, I appreciate it.
Take care and happy holidays.
You did trip the Knox counter.
Just so anyone else reading this thread knows, if you value your warranty DO NOT UPDATE TO 4.3 VIA ODIN . Instead, flash the 4.3 rom , kernel, and modem zips in CWM or TWRP recovery.
Do not Odin MJC (or MK4 for you T999L people) if you want root and warranty, as once you are on the Knox boot loader you can't go back.
Sent from my T999L on PACman
Adreaver said:
You did trip the Knox counter.
Just so anyone else reading this thread knows, if you value your warranty DO NOT UPDATE TO 4.3 VIA ODIN . Instead, flash the 4.3 rom , kernel, and modem zips in CWM or TWRP recovery.
Do not Odin MJC (or MK4 for you T999L people) if you want root and warranty, as once you are on the Knox boot loader you can't go back.
Sent from my T999L on PACman
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One of the things that bugs me about forums, finding information is a pain the butt. I just want to get my device back to stock so I can get OTA updates, GPS doesn't suck, and can use Wifi. I don't care about root anymore or using custom roms. I'm learning Objective C right now to branch into iOS development. I'm sick of the Android ecosystem, to be frank.
I'm on Wicked Rom with Android v4.1.1
Baseband T999UVDMD5, Kernal 3.0.65-DeviantKernel_07
I'm downloading T999UVUEMJC_T999TMBEMJC_TMB.zip right now, along with root66_TMO_T999UVUEMJC_2.7z
Which one do I need to flash? if root66 gives me root, then cool I'll take it, but as I said, I don't care. I'll be using Mobile Odin since I'm on a mac and I sold my PC. If I need to install Windows via bootcamp then so be it, but I really don't want to.
If I need to update the rom, kernel, modem, etc all separately where do I find those files? *scratches head*

[Q] Official 4.3 Rooting questions

For starters, I am using an SGH-i747, that shipped with 4.3.
Now, I am not new to rooting/modding my phone. My previous phone, the Samsung Infuse 4G, was very easy to root, install recoveries/ flash ROMs, and unroot. I could go from stock 2.2 to 4.4 in 30 minutes. And I did, a lot. But reading up for the past few days on this phone is making me feel like I have no idea what I'm doing. Plus, there are very mixed results with rooting the GS3 on 4.3 successfully.
''Read the rooting tutorials'', I have, they are from 2012/ early 2013. It is 2014, thing have changed. One, there's apparently this ''KNOX'' thing that triggers when you flash anything that's not from Odin, and there's no back-to-stock 4.3 or any previous Android version because the bootloader has changed. I'm not really worried about Knox ending my warranty forever, I'm worried about the event that I somehow brick my phone, there's no going back to stock.
Looking at the CF-auto root by Chainfire, the amount of bad votes HERE for the SAMSUNG SGH-I747 is disheartening. Also, that the post hasn't been edited since Nov. 2012...
Unless someone has a surefire way to get root (and maybe a custom recovery) I would like advice on if THIS video looks legit.. If it is, then after I gain root, should I be able to download a recovery from ROM Manager or something similar? (I'm asking because that's how easy it was on my Infuse)
I feel very weird posting in the QA section, as I have only done so maybe 4 times...but any help would be greatly appreciated. If I need to clear anything up, for some reason, feel free to tell me. I'll probably be hovering over this thread like a vulture.
You should not need root to install a custom recovery. You can install a custom recovery from Odin which will trip the Knox counter.
audit13 said:
You should not need root to install a custom recovery. You can install a custom recovery from Odin which will trip the Knox counter.
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But the things I want to install from the recovery will require root. Would using the custom recovery to flash a superuser.apk give me root access?
Edit; thought after posting, would flashing a ROM with superuser work with just having a custom recovery?
I prefer installing a custom recovery via Odin rather than ROM manager. Most ROMs are pre-rooted. If it's not, you can download SupeUS or Superuser and flash in recovery.
In my opinion, the safest root method is from Method 2 in this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47747640&postcount=1
If you can flash TWRP in step 2, then I would immediately make a full backup, before moving to step 3. If step 2 fails, then your operating system is not affected. Just your counters and maybe your recovery. And if step 2 succeeds, then an immediate backup of your operating system before removing anything or adding any root might save you a lot of headaches latter on if something goes wrong.
shortydoggg said:
In my opinion, the safest root method is from Method 2 in this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47747640&postcount=1
If you can flash TWRP in step 2, then I would immediately make a full backup, before moving to step 3. If step 2 fails, then your operating system is not affected. Just your counters and maybe your recovery. And if step 2 succeeds, then an immediate backup of your operating system before removing anything or adding any root might save you a lot of headaches latter on if something goes wrong.
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Oh boy, I hope you're right.
Edit 1; ok, backing up now, this works.
Edit 2; after a successful backup and pressing reboot, TWRP prompted me that I hadn't yet installed SU, which it then allowed me to install. Reboot and open the app drawer, it was there, but had to update from the play store. Voila, rooted with a custom recovery, thank you to both for assistance! It was easier than I thought it was going to be.
No problem.
Don't know if you are aware you can flash 4.3 via S3Rx in the development section it is pre rooted you can use the MJ2 bootloader and you can flash back and forth as you please. Just don't use the MJB bootloader you should be fine.
Good luck and Happy flashing.
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theramsey3 said:
Don't know if you are aware you can flash 4.3 via S3Rx in the development section it is pre rooted you can use the MJ2 bootloader and you can flash back and forth as you please. Just don't use the MJB bootloader you should be fine.
Good luck and Happy flashing.
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I guess since I already have a thread opened, I'll ask this, too;
What's the difference between the Android Development and the Original android Development? The forum for my previous phone only had 1 development section, so most of the layout of this entire forum is new to me.
theramsey3 said:
Don't know if you are aware you can flash 4.3 via S3Rx in the development section it is pre rooted you can use the MJ2 bootloader and you can flash back and forth as you please. Just don't use the MJB bootloader you should be fine.
Good luck and Happy flashing.
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How is the MJ2 bootloader going to be used when the phone already came shipped with 4.3? It already has the MJB bootloader.
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MJ2 wont flash very well. But they also have it with the MJB bootloader and stuff so no fear just use the correct stuff and you shall get it aswell .
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[Q] Revert Back To Stock Help

Hi everyone,
I have a Galaxy S3 LTE from T-Mobile (SGH-T999L) and I rooted it and tried to install a custom rom. However it didn't work and then I installed the stock rom. Now I want to reset the restore counter. With the Triangle Away. However, I though it needs root. So I don't want to root it and then reset the counter. Basically can someone just help me completely restore it to stock so there are no signs of rooting or modding. I need to send it to samsung. Please help!
Thank You! :fingers-crossed:
Youll have to re root. Sorry. Odin flash root66, triangle away, Odin flash official firmware, factory reset.
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DocHoliday77 said:
Youll have to re root. Sorry. Odin flash root66, triangle away, Odin flash official firmware, factory reset.
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Thanks for the reply! After I run the triangle away and then odin flash the stock firmware won't that increase the counter to 1?
Counter only increases when you flash non official firmware with odin. (Except for root66). Itll also retrip to 1 if you have a custom recovery or kernel installed. You are talking bout the binary counter, not the warranty bit, right?
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DocHoliday77 said:
Counter only increases when you flash non official firmware with odin. (Except for root66). Itll also retrip to 1 if you have a custom recovery or kernel installed. You are talking bout the binary counter, not the warranty bit, right?
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Wait. What the warranty bit? Is that something that will stop me from having samsung fix my phone. Because in download mode it says Warranty Bit is 1.
Yup, I'm afraid your warranty is void. You can try to send it in. In the Note3 forums there are several repirts of sending it in with the warranty bit tripped and still getting it serviced or replaced. No guarantees though.

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