Task manager is a native HTC Sense app that allows us to kill specific (or all) running apps that are usually left open in the background. Kind of ironic that they don't close even after we swipe them away from the multitasking page huh? :what:
Nonetheless, the fuss that has been circulating the One X's screen issues are far from over. It all begun with the screen flickering and the constant shaking in some of the apps which drove us almost insane. Then came up that annoying little yellow spot that seemed to follow us around and always grabbed our attention.
But now we face (or I face) another irritating screen bug that needs a quick fix. For some one like me, who constantly uses the Task manager (for killing some, but not all) would greatly appreciate the refresh rate of the screen to increase to avoid stains of the terribly executed Sense 4 UI. I hate having to see the transition stain of apps sliding up after killing that of which is on top of them.
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I don't have this.
nobnut said:
I don't have this.
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Vodafone Australia manipulates the phone so much until its unusable. Never knew a Quad core with Tegra™ 3 would run so slow. I might return it for the third time and get a Lumia 900 instead.
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I have it, but if this is your biggest issue... then you have none
fallenwout said:
I have it, but if this is your biggest issue... then you have none
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Haha the One X is for my brother. I have the GNex. He doesn't really like the One X. Especially from a carrier..
this also happens when deleting text messages
dan_ep82 said:
this also happens when deleting text messages
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Download the 'Screen test' app by AMBERFOG from the market and you would see how slow the screen refresh rate is when flicking through different templates.. would be more noticeable (if not obvious) when compared to another device.
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The screen flickering using the Screen test has improved a lot since the 1.28 update. but I still notice a very noticeable lag in HTC Sense. I dont understand how a quad-core CPU struggles to run as it should. And what gets to me the most is the fact that the One S is faster than the one X flag ib ever aspect. We pay big money for a phone that over heats all the time (reached 48 degrees, had to put it in the freezer for a minute or two to cool it down) and the constant lag in HTC Sense and reboots and lags here and there.
The only good thing so far is that they have already released two updates but lets see how long it will take Vodafone will they finally release the 1.29 update -_-
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Nonetheless, the fuss that has been circulating the One X's screen issues are far from over.
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Did I miss a meeting? Who said they're over? The flickering, notification bar corruption, funkiness in the camera app, and probably all other non h/w display issues are graphics drivers related. In the flickering thread it was posted on 5/2 that HTC's identified the issue and an update's (not 1.29) forthcoming. If after that there are still graphics problems then it's safe to bring out the exclamation points.
I hadn't noticed but mine does it, can't say it bothers me at all, even if it stays that way for ever.
Can someone post the apk?
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Ahmato27 said:
Task manager is a native HTC Sense app that allows us to kill specific (or all) running apps that are usually left open in the background. Kind of ironic that they don't close even after we swipe them away from the multitasking page huh? :what:
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This is incorrect. Swiping in the task manager closes tasks correctly, as you would expect. This is easily verified by closing an app that has a splash screen on startup. The app will show the splash screen the next time you start it up after swiping to close it.
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knoxploration said:
This is incorrect. Swiping in the task manager closes tasks correctly, as you would expect. This is easily verified by closing an app that has a splash screen on startup. The app will show the splash screen the next time you start it up after swiping to close it.
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Dude I have the one X and the ICS multitasking sucks no doubt. Sometimes I close apps using the swipe up mechanism and they would still be running in the native built in app. Heck I close the Music players and music keeps playing. You're telling me that the ICS multitasking does a good job then you clearly kbow nothing about multitasking.
Sometimes I open an app and minimize it leave in the background for about 30 seconds, open it again and it has reload! What the hell is this, its yhe most annoying when you are using the Web browser and it keep reloading the page every time you minimize it nd by that say good bye to your data.
You want to see multitasking? Get a Nokia N9. By far the best multitasking phone ever! I loved mine and then I swapped it for this rubbish One X. The N9i never had any issues and it got 2 major updates twice in less than 6 months and another is coming and android still cant do multitasking and random apps are always running in the background! Dafuq!
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Dude I have the one X and the ICS multitasking sucks no doubt. Sometimes I close apps using the swipe up mechanism and they would still be running in the native built in app. Heck I close the Music players and music keeps playing. You're telling me that the ICS multitasking does a good job then you clearly kbow nothing about multitasking.
Sometimes I open an app and minimize it leave in the background for about 30 seconds, open it again and it has reload! What the hell is this, its yhe most annoying when you are using the Web browser and it keep reloading the page every time you minimize it nd by that say good bye to your data.
You want to see multitasking? Get a Nokia N9. By far the best multitasking phone ever! I loved mine and then I swapped it for this rubbish One X. The N9i never had any issues and it got 2 major updates twice in less than 6 months and another is coming and android still cant do multitasking and random apps are always running in the background! Dafuq!
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LOL I clearly made a lot of spelling and typo mistakes. I'll blame the One X for that too
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itsmoe said:
Dude I have the one X and the ICS multitasking sucks no doubt. Sometimes I close apps using the swipe up mechanism and they would still be running in the native built in app. Heck I close the Music players and music keeps playing. You're telling me that the ICS multitasking does a good job then you clearly kbow nothing about multitasking.
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I never said it does a good job, I said it does close apps (which was the opposite of the claim that I was replying to). And it does close them. And that includes music players. (I've only tested a couple; I don't claim to have bothered trying every player.) Yes, the music can continue briefly after swiping; that's likely buffer-related, I'd guess. Fact is that with the apps I've tried, music playing does stop a couple of seconds after the swipe, though.
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Sometimes I open an app and minimize it leave in the background for about 30 seconds, open it again and it has reload! What the hell is this, its yhe most annoying when you are using the Web browser and it keep reloading the page every time you minimize it nd by that say good bye to your data.
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I'm well aware of this; I have the exact same problem myself on three ICS devices. It's one of the worst features of Android. However, the comment I was replying to has absolutely nothing to do with this. It makes no difference whether you use a task killer, or swiping in the recent apps list; ICS will still randomly kill recent apps whenever it feels the need to do so.
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The screen flickering using the Screen test has improved a lot since the 1.28 update. but I still notice a very noticeable lag in HTC Sense. I dont understand how a quad-core CPU struggles to run as it should. And what gets to me the most is the fact that the One S is faster than the one X flag ib ever aspect. We pay big money for a phone that over heats all the time (reached 48 degrees, had to put it in the freezer for a minute or two to cool it down) and the constant lag in HTC Sense and reboots and lags here and there.
The only good thing so far is that they have already released two updates but lets see how long it will take Vodafone will they finally release the 1.29 update -_-
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Because sense is badly coded, and the s will win in benchmarks because its got a smaller screen, on a pc running a game at 600x800 will be much faster than 1440x900.
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knoxploration said:
I never said it does a good job, I said it does close apps (which was the opposite of the claim that I was replying to). And it does close them. And that includes music players. (I've only tested a couple; I don't claim to have bothered trying every player.) Yes, the music can continue briefly after swiping; that's likely buffer-related, I'd guess. Fact is that with the apps I've tried, music playing does stop a couple of seconds after the swipe, though.
I'm well aware of this; I have the exact same problem myself on three ICS devices. It's one of the worst features of Android. However, the comment I was replying to has absolutely nothing to do with this. It makes no difference whether you use a task killer, or swiping in the recent apps list; ICS will still randomly kill recent apps whenever it feels the need to do so.
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I've just closed the music player using the most recent app list thing that comes as a new feature in ICS and music is still playing. It does work on some apps and it foesnt work on some. Its just useless, it ahould either kill all or should have never existed in the first place. Im only saying this as I was a N9 user and multitasking on it was 100% better than this.
As for the One S being better, well I dont see why they make the One X the flagship when it gets beaten by a cheater and supposedly less capable phone? As for the resolution example you gave, well if the make a better screen they should use a better graphics card, its really not that hard.
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itsmoe said:
As for the resolution example you gave, well if the make a better screen they should use a better graphics card, its really not that hard.
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It's not a graphics "card" per say, it's a system-on-chip.
HTC One X International: Tegra 3 SoC (1.5 GHz quad-core ARM Cortex-A9, Nvidia ULP GeForce)
HTC One S: Snapdragon S4 MSM8260A SoC (1.5 GHz dual-core Krait, Adreno 225)
That said, benchmarks suggest it likely *is* a better GPU in the One X than the One S, eg.:
http://glbenchmark.com/result.jsp?orderby=438&brand=HTC&benchmark=glpro21&var=avg&gpu=
Problem is, it needs to be 78% better than the Snapdragon just to equal it, based on the difference in pixel counts. That's a big ask, without vastly increasing power consumption (and hence, vastly reducing battery life or making the phone much bigger and heavier.)
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Hey everyone,
As we all know, there isn't true multitasking on the Galaxy Nexus as of yet. I just happened to stumble upon this:
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(Image is here)
(Can be viewed by going to Settings>Developer Options)
Since you can set the background process limit, would it be possible to have an unlimited amount of processes running in the background? I'm no developer by any means, and I'm not sure if this is even possible but if it was I would love to have it implemented on the Galaxy Nexus with its amazing 1GB of RAM.
Alright guys, this thread has kinda got out of hand. I now realize that "real multitasking" will vary in definition from user to user. To completely understand my definition of multitasking, go to any computer running windows XP+ , Linux or Mac. Open a browser with ten tabs, open any file explorer and copy a fairly large file to your desktop, open another application or game, open another one and go back to the browser. Is the page still open? This is what I define as true multitasking. Even on a Windows PC with similar specs to that of the Galaxy Nexus, apps usually never close. On the Galaxy Nexus, if I open XDA, start writing a post, switch to Gmail, open the browser, open Facebook and finally switch back to XDA, the app has to reload and my post is gone.
Android has had true multitasking since...forever.
Scratches head. Just multi tasked my way to xda app.
Sent from my Nexus in Texas.
adrynalyne said:
Android has had true multitasking since...forever.
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I'd you've ever used webos, you'll realize that "multitasking " on Android is all smoke and mirrors. Android is far too aggressive with closing apps and uses too much ram on inactive cached apps.
Don't believe me? Open your browser and load a website. Then multitask to another app and then return to the browser. You'll notice that it reloads the page. That's not true multitasking. Even ios is better than that.
Of course, there are instances when you return to an app and it's in the same spot you left it, but it won't do that if you return to the app hours or days later, which it does with webos.
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Refreshing and reloading a page are not the same.
And the aggressiveness you speak of? Its adjustable.
iOS multitasking is smoke and mirrors.
WP7 multitasking is smoke and mirrors.
Android is not.
In regards to your days comment:
I have a couple times opened my browser and not only had the same webpage up from days ago (and not had it refresh), but the tabs too. With information that would have been lost still present, had it been closed or refreshed.
adrynalyne said:
Refreshing and reloading a page are not the same.
And the aggressiveness you speak of? Its adjustable.
iOS multitasking is smoke and mirrors.
WP7 multitasking is smoke and mirrors.
Android is not.
In regards to your days comment:
I have a couple times opened my browser and not only had the same webpage up from days ago (and not had it refresh), but the tabs too. With information that would have been lost still present, had it been closed or refreshed.
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You've never used webos I assume.
In Android, if I'm working on a document and run several other apps, the document editing app I was using will reopen from the start and my data will be lost. On webos, the app will remain open until you close it. If you needed to swap from your browser to another app in Android, you need to do it quickly or the browser will be killed and you have to start over.
I'd love to make a video comparing webos, Android and ios multitasking. I just don't have the time, but when I do, it will be an interesting project.
If you have any suggestions as to which apps to test in this multitasking battle, I'm open to suggestions.
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Multitasking works fine on ICS for me on my GN. U use the dlna app to stream stuff and then I go browse stuff. The videos are 720p being sent from my GN.
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I play games while listening to Pandora.
I even browse the web, and come back to my paused game. Sometimes, I will even take a camera shot, then go back to my game.
and I wonder why my battry life sucks half the time...
EP2008 said:
You've never used webos I assume.
In Android, if I'm working on a document and run several other apps, the document editing app I was using will reopen from the start and my data will be lost. On webos, the app will remain open until you close it. If you needed to swap from your browser to another app in Android, you need to do it quickly or the browser will be killed and you have to start over.
I'd love to make a video comparing webos, Android and ios multitasking. I just don't have the time, but when I do, it will be an interesting project.
If you have any suggestions as to which apps to test in this multitasking battle, I'm open to suggestions.
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I've never lost an application from Android closing it.
Many a time ive wrote emails, texts, messages on Tapatalk, entering forms on a website to multitask out, and then back in later on to find my information is still there
If your device sucks and doesn't have enough ram it will make compromises to keep the current app running.
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Yup multitasking is fine. For battery reasons apps not currently in the foreground will be told to go to sleep for a bit, and if memory pressure is tight they'll be told to save their state and go away (the GN has enough memory that this doesn't happen as often as in earlier phones, but it does happen).
This is *good*. It means the only thing that's always using battery/memory is the thing you're looking at, provided the other apps are well behaved.
iOS works more or less identically, btw.
Your document editing program sounds broken. There's no excuse for losing data - it should have saved state when it was told it was being unloaded.
If what you're describing in webos is correct* it is *bad*. Keeping apps around no matter what else was happening on the phone is what the old Windows Phone used to do - which caused no end of problems with crashing due to out of memory etc. and is why people still today think they need task killers.
* And TBH I don't believe it is, because only an idiot would design a mobile OS to behave like that.
EP2008 said:
I'd you've ever used webos, you'll realize that "multitasking " on Android is all smoke and mirrors. Android is far too aggressive with closing apps and uses too much ram on inactive cached apps.
Don't believe me? Open your browser and load a website. Then multitask to another app and then return to the browser. You'll notice that it reloads the page. That's not true multitasking. Even ios is better than that.
Of course, there are instances when you return to an app and it's in the same spot you left it, but it won't do that if you return to the app hours or days later, which it does with webos.
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Webos's idea of multitasking is just wasting cycles for the sake of wasting cycles.
Evostance said:
I've never lost an application from Android closing it.
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I must have several defective Android devices in that case. Two phones and three tablets. How can this be?
On my Galaxy Nexus I tried opening a YouTube video on the full page (not mobile version) and then went to the tapatalk app and right back to the browser and YouTube had to reload the page and the video starts from the beginning instead of where it left off. Are you saying that your YouTube will still be at the spot you left off in the browser?
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JCopernicus said:
Webos's idea of multitasking is just wasting cycles for the sake of wasting cycles.
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BS. When I have apps running in webos (HP Touchpad), the cpus drop to zero mhz on one and 192mhz on the other if I'm not actively using those apps. Battery is not sacrificed, but even if it was, I would prefer the true multitasking it offers.
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A lot of the time multitasking on android occurs in the form that the minimized app saved its state and resume when the user go back to it. This is more power efficient than really having the app running in background foe phones.
But as tablet get more powerful and OS gets more mature, I wish to see desktop like multitasking, where apps are running alongside with each other, literally. This type of multitasking of course isn't very useful for phone, given the limited screen real estate. But IMO a much needed feature for iPad-sized tablets.
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EP2008 said:
I must have several defective Android devices in that case. Two phones and three tablets. How can this be?
On my Galaxy Nexus I tried opening a YouTube video on the full page (not mobile version) and then went to the tapatalk app and right back to the browser and YouTube had to reload the page and the video starts from the beginning instead of where it left off. Are you saying that your YouTube will still be at the spot you left off in the browser?
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the youtube app is coded to do that on purpose, ask google why cause i dont know.
anyway i agree android can sometimes have too agressive memory limits. however i often times close the web browser and hours later the page is still loaded when i return and it didnt kill it and need to reload. it all depends on what you've done with the phone.
you can adjust the process memory limit with root if you really want to tweak. but android multitasking is fine for the most part. it does have some annoyances like those times it kills the browser when it wasnt necessary.
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BS. When I have apps running in webos (HP Touchpad), the cpus drop to zero mhz on one and 192mhz on the other if I'm not actively using those apps. Battery is not sacrificed, but even if it was, I would prefer the true multitasking it offers.
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Play a video, change cards.
That's a waste of cycles.
I've been wondering this for a while. My old phone was a hd2 with 2.2 on it and if I was on the browser and pressed home then went to sleep when I woke up and pressed the browser it would be exactly where I left it. Same with youtube.
But on my nexus it constantly reloads the page. I thought mine must be broken.
Anyone else's gnex only show 600 ish ram
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apparently people dont understand the difference between saving the state of an app to flash, and actual multitasking. WebOS and iOS (now) save the state of an app wherever it left off. great for the browser. for streaming apps (or apps which are actively doing work in the background that aren't among the specific exceptions allowed in iOS) this is not so good. Android multitasking is pretty standard linux - for better or for worse.
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I've been wondering this for a while. My old phone was a hd2 with 2.2 on it and if I was on the browser and pressed home then went to sleep when I woke up and pressed the browser it would be exactly where I left it. Same with youtube.
But on my nexus it constantly reloads the page. I thought mine must be broken.
Anyone else's gnex only show 600 ish ram
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128mb reserved for video.
~40mb for other hardware functions.
The hardware and design of this phone are top notch - most features work really well except anything in regards to multi-tasking. I am very disappointed that its missing basic functionality I thought should be pretty standard these days especially on a flagship device. Case in point - Usa today app, its always been really nice while traveling since I can sync it before flying and read all the articles while in-flight on my iPhone during airplane mode, with the One X any open browser page or related app becomes a useless blank page when airplane mode is switched on. Heck even the picture I had open in the gallery section closed and took me back to the main gallery (picture) folder and of course this does not need an internet connection.
It looks like Sense 4.0 has eliminated multi-tasking, as much as I like the device otherwise I just cant give up so much basic functionality that I have been enjoying for years on other phones... Will probably have to return and go back to my iphone 4 for now.. Bummer -
It does not appear that HTC recognizes this short-coming as a problem and considers this normal functionality so I cant just wait for an update/fix...
Anyone else feel this way ?
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The hardware and design of this phone are top notch - most features work really well except anything in regards to multi-tasking. I am very disappointed that its missing basic functionality I thought should be pretty standard these days especially on a flagship device. Case in point - Usa today app, its always been really nice while traveling since I can sync it before flying and read all the articles while in-flight on my iPhone during airplane mode, with the One X any open browser page or related app becomes a useless blank page when airplane mode is switched on. Heck even the picture I had open in the gallery section closed and took me back to the main gallery (picture) folder and of course this does not need an internet connection.
It looks like Sense 4.0 has eliminated multi-tasking, as much as I like the device otherwise I just cant give up so much basic functionality that I have been enjoying for years on other phones... Will probably have to return and go back to my iphone 4 for now.. Bummer -
It does not appear that HTC recognizes this short-coming as a problem and considers this normal functionality so I cant just wait for an update/fix...
Anyone else feel this way ?
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multitasking is a bit of a joke on this phone. I hope HTC addresses this in a future update.
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Since Sense + OS alone consume most of the ram (> 80%) on the device, I suppose integrated Android task killer is configured in some paranoid mode and is killing backgroups apps like crazy.
If this bothers you, I would install one of senseless ROMs on your HD2 and be happy Possibly there is also a way to make task killer more civilized in custom Sense ROMs.
Sadly, Sense 4.0 is quit bloated and One-X should have at least 1.5GB of RAM to begin with.
Yup, I agree, multitasking is really bad... All my dolphin browser pages reload if I click the home button and try to go back.
Sent from my HTC One X on Leedroid's ROM v5.1.0.
It will addressed with uopdates after all you bought a quad cote for multi tasking, some of xda chefs are communicating with HTC dev and we reported the very aggressive memfree values, also if you are rooted you can control them with supercharger script
Srgsx said:
Case in point - Usa today app, its always been really nice while traveling since I can sync it before flying and read all the articles while in-flight on my iPhone during airplane mode, with the One X any open browser page or related app becomes a useless blank page when airplane mode is switched on.
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When I change the wireless state on my i9100 the same thing happens so it's Android, not HTC or the One X. Even if the USA Today home page was retained clicking on any of the stories would result in an error because there's no wireless connection available. Get an app like Pocket that allows you to save articles from across the web for offline reading. The CNN app also gives you the option to save stories offline.
The multitasking on this phone sucks period. There is not justification. I should not be here looking for an answer. XDA devs should be enhancing the phone not trying to fix basic functionality. I hope HTC solves this problem before my trail period.
mgfjd said:
The multitasking on this phone sucks period. There is not justification. I should not be here looking for an answer. XDA devs should be enhancing the phone not trying to fix basic functionality. I hope HTC solves this problem before my trail period.
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Do any of you understand how multitasking in Android even works? Even if a task is killed by the OS, apps developed that follow the published standard will re-launch in their last state in less than a second. And the better XDA devs should know that. So while HTC's memory management may be aggressive, there's more to it if individual apps aren't behaving correctly.
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/04/multitasking-android-way.html
Srgsx said:
The hardware and design of this phone are top notch - most features work really well except anything in regards to multi-tasking. I am very disappointed that its missing basic functionality I thought should be pretty standard these days especially on a flagship device. Case in point - Usa today app, its always been really nice while traveling since I can sync it before flying and read all the articles while in-flight on my iPhone during airplane mode, with the One X any open browser page or related app becomes a useless blank page when airplane mode is switched on. Heck even the picture I had open in the gallery section closed and took me back to the main gallery (picture) folder and of course this does not need an internet connection.
It looks like Sense 4.0 has eliminated multi-tasking, as much as I like the device otherwise I just cant give up so much basic functionality that I have been enjoying for years on other phones... Will probably have to return and go back to my iphone 4 for now.. Bummer -
It does not appear that HTC recognizes this short-coming as a problem and considers this normal functionality so I cant just wait for an update/fix...
Anyone else feel this way ?
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If you're not happy w it, return it ASAP. Why do you have to care about what others think? It's your money, your experience.
Case closed. Meetings adjourned lol
louis.b said:
If you're not happy w it, return it ASAP. Why do you have to care about what others think? It's your money, your experience.
Case closed. Meetings adjourned lol
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Its called a forum, in which I can and will reach out to others to get feedback on what I consider a situation with a very flawed segment of Sense which is making me contemplate returning an otherwise very nice device.
Look Apple has been doing this puesdo multi-tasking, app-pausing just fine since 4.0 what the heck is HTC thinking ? Browser tabs store just fine for days WITHOUT an internet connection. I geuss I am just expecting too much.
Sorry to interupt move along nothing to see here - lol
If you really want to pile-on, head over here. The XL'rs are far more up in arms than the X'rs.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1646409
I've asked the same questions of people that say the way multitasking is implemented is a real hardship but no one's answered. What's the harm? Of "X" hours a day using the phone, what percentage of your time is actually spent active in two (or more) apps simultaneously? And with a powerful processor it shouldn't matter whether a background app is in state or has to be restarted based on the way Android works (see below). I'm not trying to pick a fight I'm trying to understand the depth of the issue.
And since no one's read the article I linked to, here's the cruxt...
Once Android determines that it needs to remove a process, it does this brutally, simply force-killing it. The kernel can then immediately reclaim all resources needed by the process, without relying on that application being well written and responsive to a polite request to exit. Allowing the kernel to immediately reclaim application resources makes it a lot easier to avoid serious out of memory situations.
If a user later returns to an application that's been killed, Android needs a way to re-launch it in the same state as it was last seen, to preserve the "all applications are running all of the time" experience. This is done by keeping track of the parts of the application the user is aware of (the Activities), and re-starting them with information about the last state they were seen in. This last state is generated each time the user leaves that part of the application, not when it is killed, so that the kernel can later freely kill it without depending on the application to respond correctly at that point.
And based on this, the SGS3's handling memory managment just like the One X so there don't appear to be a lot of options for those with special multitasking needs.
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The GS3 has the same multitasking "issue" as the One X. I have tested it. That's all the more reason why I don't expect HTC to fix it in an update. I believe it's how the manufacturers intend it to work, for better or worse.
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Try to install Apex launcher free version and set it as default launcher. Reboot and see is situation get better. If works for you then it is sense problem.
It works like a charm on my X. No any problem for multitask.And it is so smooth.
Of course if you do want sense launcher then have to live with issue. But no harm to try Apex to see at least multitask can wrok or not
BarryH_GEG everything looks nice when you write it down like that but i remember SGS did better multitasking then my new double ram HTC One X, on daily basis it kills everything when i9000 never killed my GG chatting app or music player - both just should be ON all the time i was using them thats only 2 apps to handle
At a co-workers urging I installed Go-launcher today in hopes of a quick fix. yeah nothing, still re-renders everything fricken thing it touches.
Should I stil try Apex ?
Apex so far is best launcher for one X. I used it for 1 month. If it is not work for you I will post another solution which may help.
Apex- ok you might be on to something !
Can still hold app data while in airplane mode...
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the One X any open browser page or related app becomes a useless blank page when airplane mode is switched on.
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If your rooted then flash Jan's Advance Notification toggle to enable Airplane Mode it will retain the webpage because you're not going into a different app.
Srgsx said:
At a co-workers urging I installed Go-launcher today in hopes of a quick fix. yeah nothing, still re-renders everything fricken thing it touches.
Should I stil try Apex ?
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I dont think this is caused by sense taking up too much resources. Seems to be an ics inherent thing. The sgs3 was just reported to behave the same way.
Oh yes i tried the ipad3 the other day. The display was perfect but what surprises me is it multitasks amazingly well. I can have 5 - 6 apps open including youtube and browser with multiple tabs and it switches between them smoothly without once quiting the browser. Really sad to see android/ ics regressed to this state that ios significantly beat it.
if it is ics problem why I can use mutlitask on my one X?
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BarryH_GEG everything looks nice when you write it down like that but i remember SGS did better multitasking then my new double ram HTC One X, on daily basis it kills everything when i9000 never killed my GG chatting app or music player - both just should be ON all the time i was using them thats only 2 apps to handle
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I keep asking the question "what does it mean?" and everyone keeps replying "it shouldn't be this way." If a doctor says "there’s something wrong with your liver," there's a big difference between hepatitis A and stage 3 cancer. Other than the perceived loss of something you had how does the way that the One X handles multitasking affect what you do every day? And how often is it a problem?
I had a i9100 and in practical use I don't notice a difference. The exception being the browser that stupidly reloads itself every time it restarts but it does that regardless of whether launched from recent apps or directly from the app drawer or a shortcut.
And if this is true it doesn't really matter what a Desire, HD2, or SGS did.
greyhulk said:
The GS3 has the same multitasking "issue" as the One X. I have tested it. That's all the more reason why I don't expect HTC to fix it in an update. I believe it's how the manufacturers intend it to work, for better or worse.
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Hi guys,
I am using a HTC one x atnt version. Am facing an issue with multi tasking. If I open a web page on any web browser and then start any other app and then using the multi tasking button and scroll to the web browser, it reloads the web page again instead of maintaining the page loaded.
Also for me spotify keeps logging out if I switch to another task.
Please advice as to why this is happening
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If you do a quick search or glance around the forums, you can see that the multitasking issue was intentional on behalf of HTC. They have allocated so much RAM to sense that there normally isn't enough RAM to split up between all your apps, causing aggressive memory management. Fix is to root or wait for OTAs hopefully to remedy this issue.
Ok, i´m about to sell my HOX because of this.
I can´t root, because i will loose the guarantee. My gps is working very badly, so i need the guarantee.
But when i´m using a mapping software for hiking, each time i take a photo, the app restarts and with some apps i loose all the settings. Thats ridiculous.
My Winmo phones and lately my iphone did this perfectly.
So the iphone has a better Multitasking then the HOX? OMG
So i heard the Galaxy S3 is doing the same thing? Is that true? Which device can i buy then? a note or a galaxy s2?
thx, nearly
sell it then
I have an S3 and it doesn't do that.
I m finding that perceived multi tasking is getting worse by the device. I also have an iPad and the perception of multi tasking is better there.
Its based on the fact that a lot of android apps don't save state when they are closed. I don't know whether the developers are lazy
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Wasn't this issue fixed on the 1.29 update?
lt iibad said:
I have an S3 and it doesn't do that.
I m finding that perceived multi tasking is getting worse by the device. I also have an iPad and the perception of multi tasking is better there.
Its based on the fact that a lot of android apps don't save state when they are closed.
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But I'm not closing my apps. I'm new to android, but my understanding is that you close an app with the back button.
I always use the home button or the multi tasking button.
I set multitasking to 4 apps, but that didn't help.
If I just toggle between my GPS mapping app and the camera, it already doesn't work anymore.
And I'm not using the sense launcher. I use apex.
The iPhone and my Touch HD had both 512mb RAM. The hox has 1GB and still doesn't multitasking?
So is it safe to by an S3 instead? Does it have more free ram?
I also hope with the S3 I can root legally and maybe even get an asop Rom at some point, which would have a lot more ram and deal perfectly with multitasking.
Nearly
nobody?
kjotwani said:
Hi guys,
I am using a HTC one x atnt version. Am facing an issue with multi tasking. If I open a web page on any web browser and then start any other app and then using the multi tasking button and scroll to the web browser, it reloads the web page again instead of maintaining the page loaded.
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It appears from comments that the AT&T One X right now is more aggressive in killing apps to free memory.
On the International version running the latest stock firmware, I can usually open and use 4-6 apps with the browser simultaneously without the browser being killed. These apps include Google Maps, Twitter, IMDB, Angry Birds, etc. Using System Panel, I've noticed that the One X will rarely kill apps until free memory drops to around 150 MB. From a restart, the One X has about 350 MB free.
Also, I noticed that flipping through Flipboard tends to especially cause a lot of frequent browser restarts, even when there is 200+ MB of free memory, maybe suggesting that some of its operations require large amounts of additional memory. Perhaps you have an app that is like that.
I would suggest using System Panel to check on your free memory, the memory used by your apps and the free memory threshold as to when the One X starts killing apps.
I just did a quick test right after booting my One X... I opened Google Maps, then Android's browser, then Chrome and then the Camera. Used each app for a few seconds only, not even loading opening pages on the browsers or taking pics with the camera. After doing all this, Maps had been killed and needed to be restarted and when I tried to open Chrome, it needed to be loaded again too.
With the big amount of hardware issues plaguing the HOX, I can't risk losing the warranty to gain root and fix this myself, and it seems clear that HTC won't provide a solution, so if the S3 doesn't have this problem I'll seriously consider exchanging my HOX for an S3.
The s3 is suffering similar multitaking/ram issues. I saw a thread in their Q&A section.
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I returned my HOX due to the horrific lack of multi-tasking. Played around with the S3 last week in Europe. It seems just fine and did not have to reload any web pages or map programs.
Maybe you should look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1669074 I don't know why threads like that are not sticky...
tsukurimashou said:
Maybe you should look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1669074 I don't know why threads like that are not sticky...
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Yeah, thats nice, but you need root for that and then you loose your guarantee. With buggy device like the hox i wouldn´t dare that.
Another plus for the ugly S3. Im considering now to get a second hand S2 and put cyanogen mod on it. And than i will wait for another superphone. Maybe a windows phone 8...
Just tested. Easily multitask with 4+ tasks. Including browser, camera, xda, music, messages
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Kevin Ma said:
Just tested. Easily multitask with 4+ tasks. Including browser, camera, xda, music, messages
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Tested the GS3 or with the one X?
nearlygod said:
But I'm not closing my apps. I'm new to android, but my understanding is that you close an app with the back button.
I always use the home button or the multi tasking button.
I set multitasking to 4 apps, but that didn't help.
If I just toggle between my GPS mapping app and the camera, it already doesn't work anymore.
And I'm not using the sense launcher. I use apex.
The iPhone and my Touch HD had both 512mb RAM. The hox has 1GB and still doesn't multitasking?
So is it safe to by an S3 instead? Does it have more free ram?
I also hope with the S3 I can root legally and maybe even get an asop Rom at some point, which would have a lot more ram and deal perfectly with multitasking.
Nearly
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It is very safe to buy the S3 rather if multi tasking is a major issue. From what I've seem the OneX even closes the launcher and live wallpapers. Don't know why they didn't put two mb of ram. The S3i ave with the exact same apps doesn't close apps nearly anywhere as often.
The problem is with Android itself and maybe the developers. In that either the apps dont save state or the system doesn't request.
On iOS the OS closes all apps on pressing the home screen button but saves the apps state. So when u go back to an app its where I left it.
I would think android would have an advantage coz it doesn't immediately close apps. So when u go back to an app it's probably even progressed as is now more current than it was when u left it. The problem when it closes the app due to low resources the apps don't save state. Very frustrating.
Conclusion, get an S3 it won't close the apps due to low resources half as often.
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So, now i got something odd.
2 days ago my HOX went super slow. Even in safe mode.
I resetted it and now i can toggle between Backcountry Navigator and the camera.
If i add one or two other apps, BN will restart.
Anyway, i recently switched to Mytrails and things are looking even better there.
So, i wouldnt call multitasking great now, but my basic needs are fulfilled.
It seems, now i have to send it 3 weeks to htc for repair the bloody gps-module...
Hi
In every list that one should drag to scroll down there's always a stutter at first before the list starts to move. How can it be that a device with 4 or 5 cors could behave like this? Just curious
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ToddeSwe said:
Hi
In every list that one should drag to scroll down there's always a stutter at first before the list starts to move. How can it be that a device with 4 or 5 cors could behave like this? Just curious
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It might be due to the ramping up of the cpu's, and the time before it ramps up. These values can be customized*. Also remember that sense is not the most ui friendly rom(skin). If you are rooted, and tried any of the jb roms, you would know what I'm talking about.
*Requires root.
timlambo said:
It might be due to the ramping up of the cpu's, and the time before it ramps up. These values can be customized*. Also remember that sense is not the most ui friendly rom(skin). If you are rooted, and tried any of the jb roms, you would know what I'm talking about.
*Requires root.
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Not rooted on this device because I've had the WiFi problem on 8 devices. Don't dare to void my warranty or risk having to pay for the repair.
Are you saying that jb doesn't have this fenomen? If so I'm really looking forward to it even more.
I'm waiting for s-off then I dare to root.
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ToddeSwe said:
Not rooted on this device because I've had the WiFi problem on 8 devices. Don't dare to void my warranty or risk having to pay for the repair.
Are you saying that jb doesn't have this fenomen? If so I'm really looking forward to it even more.
I'm waiting for s-off then I dare to root.
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No, it doesn't, and it's so smooth it's actually scary. At least the aosp builds don't have lag. Whether the Htc version will be the same, remains to be seen.
I have to admit the feeling can't be described. Bad to hear about that 8 devices which all had wifi problems.
ToddeSwe said:
Hi
In every list that one should drag to scroll down there's always a stutter at first before the list starts to move. How can it be that a device with 4 or 5 cors could behave like this? Just curious
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Do you have some specific examples? In pulling down menus from Settings and scrolling through them mine doesn't stutter. I think a lot of individual performance issues are based on what apps (and their quality), monitors, analyzers, and tweakers you have running and/or in the background. Tasker is a good example because it's always monitoring the phone for movement or an action even if it's not doing anything. Here's an interesting article about how Android paints the screen. Even eight cores wouldn't make a difference. Maybe JB will change things. FWIW, there are tons of pages of discussions about stuttering issues in the SGS3 forum too. The thing both phones have in common are overlays and tons of OEM apps running in the background.
Android Graphics
https://plus.google.com/10505198573...8x93s#105051985738280261832/posts/2FXDCz8x93s
SGS3 Stuttering
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1757344
Man! i honestly thought htc wasn't doing bad on this quad-core phone......... Until i tried the unfinished jelly bean roms. After flashing back to even the test rom, i was really shocked. This is really incredible for a quad core. It stutters so much it's crazy. Even the app drawer lags. I just charged my phone to flash a jelly bean room. HECK, it's not just jelly bean, i was doing fine on ICS CM9 ROM. Is it sense?
As for the wifi problem, that just adds more fuel to the fire for people who buy an htc device for the first time, my first experience with HTC is really not as nice as i would have hoped it would be. Sadly i realized my WIFI problem after rooting. I didn't make a nandroid back up and without an RUU i can't see myself getting back to stock unless someone who is also on the same provider as i am is willing share their nandroid back up with me so i can send it in for repair - not blaming htc on this one...just HOPE I'M NOT CHARGED FOR H/W FAULT that comes from them.
I can wait at the moment to get my wifi repaired.Can't say i am satisfied with the device. One thing that's for certain is it's not the hardware in the phone that's the issue. I can only hope HTC does the right thing when it comes to this device.
HTC Sense is beautiful compared to Jelly bean , that just visually. However the lag that comes with it outweighs the beauty. That's my take on all of this so far. Hope they do the right thing.
BarryH_GEG said:
Do you have some specific examples? In pulling down menus from Settings and scrolling through them mine doesn't stutter. I think a lot of individual performance issues are based on what apps (and their quality), monitors, analyzers, and tweakers you have running and/or in the background. Tasker is a good example because it's always monitoring the phone for movement or an action even if it's not doing anything. Here's an interesting article about how Android paints the screen. Even eight cores wouldn't make a difference. Maybe JB will change things. FWIW, there are tons of pages of discussions about stuttering issues in the SGS3 forum too. The thing both phones have in common are overlays and tons of OEM apps running in the background.
Android Graphics
https://plus.google.com/10505198573...8x93s#105051985738280261832/posts/2FXDCz8x93s
SGS3 Stuttering
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1757344
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Using the stock browser go to the youtube desktop site and scroll around, pinch zoom
If you have a lot of music open the music app go to song view and scroll
use the tapatalk xda app
let the device sleep for a while then immediately open the app draw and scroll around
scroll in the gmail app
Those are some examples of the stutters that annoy me with htc roms, it may be a little nit picky but a quad core device should be able to do all the things listed above with ease.
shadehh said:
Man! i honestly thought htc wasn't doing bad on this quad-core phone......... Until i tried the unfinished jelly bean roms.
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Were you using the stock ROM and JB the same way? My One X flies after a hard reset but once I load my 97 apps and have my ten syncs running in the background it's noticably slower (but still five times faster than the i9100 it replaced). I got to try out a (S4) SGS3 for a few days. It wasn't any faster than my One X with the same apps and syncs running and I noticed the launcher issue talked about in the thread I posted above. The browser's faster because it's a Samsung strength and HTC weakness. A car accelerates differently with one passenger than it does with five while also towing a trailer.
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JJbdoggg said:
Using the stock browser go to the youtube desktop site and scroll around, pinch zoom
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I don't even have to try this one. HTC's known for their pretty average stock browsers. I keep using it because I use the "read" button a lot. Samsung ditched reflow in the SGS3 to ensure a smoother browsing experience. Users aren't too happy.
If you have a lot of music open the music app go to song view and scroll
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With a song playing via BT, I scrolled through songs and it didn't stuttter. I have about 1K songs stored on my phone.
use the tapatalk xda app
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Don't use it.
let the device sleep for a while then immediately open the app draw and scroll around
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Turned it on, unlocked it, went right to the app drawer and started scrolling. I noticed some drag in the transition from one page to another that went away the more I kept scrolling.
scroll in the gmail app
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I get Gmail through the stock app.
Can be either the lack of preparation (has to dump whatever it was going to render and render a new one), which triple buffering solves, or garbage collection being done, which is most commonly manifest as random FPS drops while scrolling through a long list. The first will be fixed in 4.1, the second requires disabling the Dalvik scroll cache.
Hey guys,
Anyone else experiencing their phone to be slightly slower AT times then when on Sense 4.0? Just sometimes my home screen and other parts of the system will just feel generally slower. The camera seems slower and the 'Developer Options' are really glitch now true. Tell the screen to flash when there is an update and the whole system becomes unresponsive. Really can't understand it..
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jaaystott said:
Hey guys,
Anyone else experiencing their phone to be slightly slower AT times then when on Sense 4.0? Just sometimes my home screen and other parts of the system will just feel generally slower. The camera seems slower and the 'Developer Options' are really glitch now true. Tell the screen to flash when there is an update and the whole system becomes unresponsive. Really can't understand it..
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well, you are the first one from whom i have heard that after installing sense 4.1 your phone is slower...
mate 4.1 is lot faster than sense 4.0 and is locked at 60 fps
try factory reset once and check if these problems still exist
have been using sense 4.1 for more than 2 weeks now and just loving it
Actually it is away faster in the screen switching, it is extremly smooth. However the app drawer lags alittle.
But overall it's faster.
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Wooow, this guy have sg3 and hox..
Am right? Lucky Boy.
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jaaystott said:
Hey guys,
Anyone else experiencing their phone to be slightly slower AT times then when on Sense 4.0? Just sometimes my home screen and other parts of the system will just feel generally slower. The camera seems slower and the 'Developer Options' are really glitch now true. Tell the screen to flash when there is an update and the whole system becomes unresponsive. Really can't understand it..
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
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Try a factory reset or if your rooted with a custom recovery just format cache and dalvic cache. Then Give the phone 2 full charges from at least 20% in at least a 2 day span.
It could be a bad app or mod that is causing the issues. Usually it's never a bad ota update that slows the device. Also I recommend a backup program.
mzaza said:
Actually it is away faster in the screen switching, it is extremly smooth. However the app drawer lags alittle.
But overall it's faster.
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The app drawer would only lag if you have a large amount of apps installed. Maybe get rid of ones you don't use
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Not so great after all...
While I don't notice that my phone is any slower after the update to 4.1, the update hasn't solved my WiFi issue. Which I wasn't really expecting it to, but they did say it should even out the signal, it hasn't. I couldn't tell the difference about the 3D widget stacking or whatever on the stock launcher, 'nor could I notice a difference when opening the app drawer or swiping through homescreens.
That is not to say that the update didn't do anything. I know that benchmarks don't prove much of anything, some argue that they do. I don't really care too much for them, but out of curiosity sake, I ran some. Now, my phone is bone stock, I can't unlock the bootloader because my volume rocker cable is broken. So I'm not rooted, nothing. With Sense 4.0 and Android 4.0.3 I scored horribly, worse than the One X in the stats, at about 3900. I don't know what was going on, but I ran that twice and got the same result. Anyway, after the update to 4.1 and 4.0.4 I scored 5928 and that is with Apex Launcher and Holo Locker locked in memory.
Take from the benchmarks what you will! The 4.1 update does not work miracles, but it's a step in the right direction!
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'nor could I notice a difference when opening the app drawer or swiping through homescreens.
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You can't be serious here?
Home screen smoothness is silky smooth on stock launcher now, the performance improvement was MASSIVE on home screens.
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chrisjcks said:
You can't be serious here?
Home screen smoothness is silky smooth on stock launcher now, the performance improvement was MASSIVE on home screens.
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I am very serious, I found it to be very smooth to begin with on 4.0... I didn't have my screens filled with lots of widgets or shortcuts though. That might make a difference. I haven't tried using a livewallpaper yet either. I do notice that Recent Apps seems to be a lot smoother, but with the stock launcher, I don't see much. The app drawer might be quicker to open than before.
jaaystott said:
Hey guys,
Anyone else experiencing their phone to be slightly slower AT times then when on Sense 4.0? Just sometimes my home screen and other parts of the system will just feel generally slower. The camera seems slower and the 'Developer Options' are really glitch now true. Tell the screen to flash when there is an update and the whole system becomes unresponsive. Really can't understand it..
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
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I'd run an RUU.
We should start writing "marked" everytime we find trolls.
So whisky dont have to read entire thread to close it.
MARKED
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dragonesdenano said:
Wooow, this guy have sg3 and hox..
Am right? Lucky Boy.
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Most certainly are right started off with a One X, got rid of it due to all the WiFi problems and other things coming to light, then picked up another one because the GS3 is so boring, but now I have both.
What I will say is what I am experiencing is not all the time every second, its just sometimes.. I'll have a quick go resetting and messing about, thanks for the suggestions guys.
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2.17 is brisk
try to wipe or free some space on your SD card
I'm experiencing the same after my ota - its great that the menu bar has gone but the home screen and recent apps just feel a bit sluggish.
For example, when opening recent apps, the current app will appear but other apps to the left of it appear after a slight delay. Swiping home screens is definitely more sluggish here; before ota it was a bit jerky (when swiping, home screen would occasionally jump from one position to another, but in general they followed finger location exactly), but now they lag slightly behind my finger, and instead of jumping positions they pause for a moment and then continue to move smoothly. I think this could be caused by the business calendar app though, it usually only happens on that page...
The problem with the launcher closing when a few apps are open is still just as bad as it was before (and still takes about 15-20 seconds to load the launcher again, which does seem a bit excessive...)
But despite the complaining above, it's really not the end of the world and I don't think it's worth bothering to do a factory reset and see if it works although I'm gradually growing to hate sense and might build up the courage to root and flash some experimental roms soon...
slishak said:
I'm experiencing the same after my ota - its great that the menu bar has gone but the home screen and recent apps just feel a bit sluggish.
For example, when opening recent apps, the current app will appear but other apps to the left of it appear after a slight delay. Swiping home screens is definitely more sluggish here; before ota it was a bit jerky (when swiping, home screen would occasionally jump from one position to another, but in general they followed finger location exactly), but now they lag slightly behind my finger, and instead of jumping positions they pause for a moment and then continue to move smoothly. I think this could be caused by the business calendar app though, it usually only happens on that page...
The problem with the launcher closing when a few apps are open is still just as bad as it was before (and still takes about 15-20 seconds to load the launcher again, which does seem a bit excessive...)
But despite the complaining above, it's really not the end of the world and I don't think it's worth bothering to do a factory reset and see if it works although I'm gradually growing to hate sense and might build up the courage to root and flash some experimental roms soon...
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Well, recents apps loads of moves perfectly.
Home screens are silky smooth.
If your not getting that, go install a RUU and fix it.
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slishak said:
I'm experiencing the same after my ota - its great that the menu bar has gone but the home screen and recent apps just feel a bit sluggish.
For example, when opening recent apps, the current app will appear but other apps to the left of it appear after a slight delay. Swiping home screens is definitely more sluggish here; before ota it was a bit jerky (when swiping, home screen would occasionally jump from one position to another, but in general they followed finger location exactly), but now they lag slightly behind my finger, and instead of jumping positions they pause for a moment and then continue to move smoothly. I think this could be caused by the business calendar app though, it usually only happens on that page...
The problem with the launcher closing when a few apps are open is still just as bad as it was before (and still takes about 15-20 seconds to load the launcher again, which does seem a bit excessive...)
But despite the complaining above, it's really not the end of the world and I don't think it's worth bothering to do a factory reset and see if it works although I'm gradually growing to hate sense and might build up the courage to root and flash some experimental roms soon...
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Hi,
Had the same problem. Turns out at least on my device after update to 2.17 the dev option "Don't keep activities" was ticked.
I know it wasn't before.
Wonder if it was a battery saving measure. Anyway made my phone sluggish so I turned it off, all back to normal.
Cheers