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SMS and MMS

Well basically I am getting charged for some of my text messages and I do not know why.
If I send a long text message will it send as a MMS???
THanks ... this is with T-Mobile

You need to speak to tmobile.

The manual says that an SMS will automatically be converted to an MMS if "very long", but not how long. Can you visually tell when this happens?

fakeuser456 said:
The manual says that an SMS will automatically be converted to an MMS if "very long", but not how long. Can you visually tell when this happens?
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Just like when you add a word tot he dictionary it will appear eith "Converting to MMS ..." once it is too long.

if memory serves, it's somewhere between 3 and 5 SMS messages in length where it changes to an MMS.

I always though 5 was the max for text messages on any phone. Then it breaks it down into seperate messages.

O and O said:
I always though 5 was the max for text messages on any phone. Then it breaks it down into seperate messages.
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it just sends it as an MMS and i get charged by T-Mobile 17p every time that happens!
That is twice now! But at least I know before i rack up a huge bill!
I will experiment and find out!

Raminder1992 said:
it just sends it as an MMS and i get charged by T-Mobile 17p every time that happens!
That is twice now! But at least I know before i rack up a huge bill!
I will experiment and find out!
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Happened to me last week, NOT COOL!

is there a way around this ?
like a config option or something like that ?
is this specific to the desire or android ?

This is standard behaviour for all Android devices, and it applies to the stock messaging app. The reason for this, is that if you are going to send more than three SMSes, it will in most cases be cheaper to send an MMS. This does not of course apply when you have unlimited texts or other discounts.
Until this gets fixed, download a replacement from the market. Try chompSMS or Handcent SMS. The automatic conversion is optional in these.

ah ok
hope this gets fixed fast

using an alternative sms program such as handcent sms or chomp sms gives you the option to break up long text messages into seperate texts instead of converting to mms

Unaccounted SMS and Picture messaging.

Something very odd.
Ive signed up to my-tmobile looking over my unbilled usage i can see SMS messages and Picture messages i have not sent. To non UK standard mobile numbers.
Usually starting with 100 or 10.
Is this a software bug? or have i some how infected myself with an android scam app or something?
i will be phoning up tmobile again later but wanted to see if anyone else had this issue.
Nutsy

If I remember correctly they don't actually show the numbers you have contacted, those numbers starting with 100 or 10 are just an alias T-mobile gives to numbers you contact.
Might just be your normal sms and mms then, if you haven't sent any at all then talk to T-mobile.

Well i deffinently didnt sent any picture messages. And it shows the Text messages i did sent as the correct numbers.
So this is making me a little worryed. I have what i thought where safe programs from the app market. Is there anyway of scanning an android phone of melicous software?

If u have handcent sms on your handset make sure auto convert to mms has been unchecked.otherwise it will convert all your long sms text messages to mms.

Nope just using the htc software. i might give tmobile a call again in a bit see what the hells going on. This isnt something i want to keep having to check up every other day for the next 2 years.
So is back to the other question. in case i have some how got a dodgy program running and doing all this is there anyway to scan my phone?

Really was hoping some one else might know whats going on.

no idea i am afraid, but just to make sure it's not some scam app, uninstall everything...
you;ve not been using any of the options in the STK have you? i think it appears in the menu as interactive? cos those are all done by text messages

EroThraX said:
If I remember correctly they don't actually show the numbers you have contacted, those numbers starting with 100 or 10 are just an alias T-mobile gives to numbers you contact.
Might just be your normal sms and mms then, if you haven't sent any at all then talk to T-mobile.
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i have just checked that, and all numbers ive been texting appear normally

"Hidden Sender Address" notification will not go away

I keep getting a notification from all the different SMS apps I have tried that is called "Hidden Sender Address". When you click on it, it takes you to the app but not to a message. Chomp SMS indicates it is an MMS message. I cant find any unread message in the stock app or any aftermarket ones.
Regardless, I cant find it to delete and it wont stop showing up in the notification bar. Does anyone have any idea how to get rid of this?

shaxs said:
I keep getting a notification from all the different SMS apps I have tried that is called "Hidden Sender Address". When you click on it, it takes you to the app but not to a message. Chomp SMS indicates it is an MMS message. I cant find any unread message in the stock app or any aftermarket ones.
Regardless, I cant find it to delete and it wont stop showing up in the notification bar. Does anyone have any idea how to get rid of this?
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OP, have you been able to fix this issue? I just received the update to Jellybean and am currently suffering from the same issue. I have tried deleting all messages and clearing the app cache but haven't been able to get rid of this notification.

I'm actually receiving the same false notification and it started today for no reason other than opening an mms. On galaxy s3 CM10 preview

Nope...havent found an official fix. If I use Chomp, it doesnt appear. GO and Handcent and it shows back up anytime I receive a new message.

shaxs said:
Nope...havent found an official fix. If I use Chomp, it doesnt appear. GO and Handcent and it shows back up anytime I receive a new message.
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I just got this showing up starting today too

schwalbach said:
I just got this showing up starting today too
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Yeah, it still shows up for me. I am stuck with Chomp which my least favorite one...

shaxs said:
I keep getting a notification from all the different SMS apps I have tried that is called "Hidden Sender Address". When you click on it, it takes you to the app but not to a message. Chomp SMS indicates it is an MMS message. I cant find any unread message in the stock app or any aftermarket ones.
Regardless, I cant find it to delete and it wont stop showing up in the notification bar. Does anyone have any idea how to get rid of this?
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If you're using a 3rd party messenging app, disable the auto-retrive MMS. Go to Stock messenger and enable auto-retrieve MMS.
I use Chomp and this fixed the problem for me. Hope it helps.

smartnphone said:
If you're using a 3rd party messenging app, disable the auto-retrive MMS. Go to Stock messenger and enable auto-retrieve MMS.
I use Chomp and this fixed the problem for me. Hope it helps.
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Yes this is how I got around it but I couldnt find the options in Go or Handcent to disable MMS retrieval. So I am stuck with Chomp which is not the best of the three IMO.

Just started getting this today as well on GO SMS. Easiest fix- Option key, More, Mark All Read. Cleared them out for me and the notifications thay wouldn't go away are gone.

shaxs said:
Yes this is how I got around it but I couldnt find the options in Go or Handcent to disable MMS retrieval. So I am stuck with Chomp which is not the best of the three IMO.
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In handcent you can go to "receiving message settings" and disable auto retrieve. My sister uses handcent and hasn't received any MMS problems since.

Hey guys. I had this pop up last night after receiving 2 MMS in a row. Setting the auto retrieve off did not fix it but "mark all read" did. Just to let you all know.
I am on Motorola Atrix CM10 4.1.1 using Handcent

I believe there is a feature to mark certain contacts/conversions as secret. That I'd what that notification is. Look in your settings for something that refers to that. Those messages don't go to inbox but separate folder. Think you might have to password them to access.

JediNinjafication said:
I believe there is a feature to mark certain contacts/conversions as secret. That I'd what that notification is. Look in your settings for something that refers to that. Those messages don't go to inbox but separate folder. Think you might have to password them to access.
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I think what you are talking about is the private inbox. Those still come up and go away just like normal text messages except they bounce to the private box. That is not what we are talking about here though

Fortune090 said:
Just started getting this today as well on GO SMS. Easiest fix- Option key, More, Mark All Read. Cleared them out for me and the notifications thay wouldn't go away are gone.
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Just wanted to say thanks for this. I have a Galaxy S III and started getting this as soon as I got 4.1 on my phone, drove me nuts. Just googled hidden sender address and found this thread.

Hidden Sender Address notification !!!FIX!!!
I was having this problem the other day after installing a jellybean messaging app. It worked fine for a day or so then I started getting "Hidden Sender Address" all the time and then wasn't even able to delete my texts. I would delete the entire conversation and it would still show that there was a conversation there, but it was all empty.
I contacted at&t to see if they had any ideas and the only thing they could come up with was factory reset. Screw that I knew there had to be another way. I'll never trust them completely!
I contacted the creator of the app and this is what he had me do and it did work:
If you have root you can clear the DB by deleting this file (apparently):
/data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/mmssms.db
Of course that will delete all your SMS and MMSs, but you can
(hopefully) back them up to gmail and restore them afterwards using
SMS Backup+.
Samsung Galaxy SII Skyrocket.

goderaj said:
If you have root you can clear the DB by deleting this file (apparently):
/data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/mmssms.db
Of course that will delete all your SMS and MMSs, but you can
(hopefully) back them up to gmail and restore them afterwards using
SMS Backup+.
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If anyone has any ideas on how to do this file deletion without root (on a Galaxy Nexus 4.2), I'd be very grateful! Thank you.

received 4 of these today, except on my sgs2 running darkys rom HD
text inside msg 4504:message not foun
id assume its ment to be found the last word

goderaj said:
I was having this problem the other day after installing a jellybean messaging app. It worked fine for a day or so then I started getting "Hidden Sender Address" all the time and then wasn't even able to delete my texts. I would delete the entire conversation and it would still show that there was a conversation there, but it was all empty.
I contacted at&t to see if they had any ideas and the only thing they could come up with was factory reset. Screw that I knew there had to be another way. I'll never trust them completely!
I contacted the creator of the app and this is what he had me do and it did work:
If you have root you can clear the DB by deleting this file (apparently):
/data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/mmssms.db
Of course that will delete all your SMS and MMSs, but you can
(hopefully) back them up to gmail and restore them afterwards using
SMS Backup+.
Samsung Galaxy SII Skyrocket.
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Why cant he just update the app to fix this issue?

Any news on this fix by the developer?

FIX!!!!
OK Everyone. I have resolved this issue on my Galaxy SIII and your are more than welcome to replicate this but beware, you may lose your SMS history.
First you can either delete all SMS. I didn't want to do this for obvious reasons.
Second, scroll all the way to the bottom of all your SMS. If like me you have oodles of them this might be annoying and take a while. At the bottom I found a sender called 'ANONYMOUS'!!!! Sounds ominous doesn't it.
I deleted this thread and since then I have nto had this message appear. ALTHOUGH.... i lost all my SMS as a result.... LOL whoops. bug time!
Please note. I also disabled auto download MMS, cleared badgeholder cache (which temporarily works), readded SMS icon and disabled google hangout from picking up SMS and neither of these permanently resolved the issue but feel free to try these first as you probably should do as they are non destructive.
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Where is group messaging???

This feels like such a noob question but I'm at a loss. I know group messaging has been baked into the latest release but it doesn't seem to be working right.
I have the group messaging option turned on in my settings and I can send a group text just fine. But when I receive a group message it looks like a normal text message. I can't see who the other recipients are and so I can't respond to anyone but the person who sent that text.
I've noticed the same thing on several different S3 phones running 4.3 so I feel like either I am doing something wrong or "group messaging" doesn't work the way I expect it to. Are we only able to send group texts but not receive them? What gives?
Thanks.

Anyone??

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Anyone??
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I have the Verizon version of the S3, so I'm not sure if they behave the same. I went into my messing app, hit the menu to get settings and have the option for "Group Conversations" "Send messages as group conversations by default" checked...mine works just fine. When I get a group text, I have an option to switch it from MMS to SMS and have it be an individual text.

[Q] Stop texts from breaking up

Stop texts from breaking up, How?
Every time I get a long text message it's broken up into multiple messages, it's annoying because sometimes they dont all come in at the same time, or they do and i think i have a **** ton of msgs lol. It's the same on the stock messaging app and google's messaging app. Is there a setting somewhere that I've missed? It's happened with incoming msgs from iphones and android phones on different carriers.

mykull said:
Stop texts from breaking up, How?
Every time I get a long text message it's broken up into multiple messages, it's annoying because sometimes they dont all come in at the same time, or they do and i think i have a **** ton of msgs lol. It's the same on the stock messaging app and google's messaging app. Is there a setting somewhere that I've missed? It's happened with incoming msgs from iphones and android phones on different carriers.
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There is little you can do, it is the carrier of the sender that is doing it. Many carriers limit the number of characters you can have per text. So if they go over it gets broken into multiple text messages. It is not an issue on your end.

I also hate this.. When I had att I didn't have this problem..

Wasn't there an option to send messages bigger then a # of characters through MMS instead of using normal split SMS?
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Spark91 said:
Wasn't there an option to send messages bigger then a # of characters through MMS instead of using normal split SMS?
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Yes I think there is. This is for sending messages though. When receiving a message it depends on how the senders app sends it.
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Cbass15 said:
I also hate this.. When I had att I didn't have this problem..
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I think att and t-mobile are able to send messages without breaking it up after 150 characters.

Easy fix, just make hangouts your default SMS app...
Otherwise you're at the mercy of the carrier.

Stryke_the_Orc said:
Easy fix, just make hangouts your default SMS app...
Otherwise you're at the mercy of the carrier.
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I noticed hangouts fixes a lot of messaging problems.. Why is this? If you don't care to elaborate. ?

Cbass15 said:
I noticed hangouts fixes a lot of messaging problems.. Why is this? If you don't care to elaborate. ?
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Just a guess, but I'd say it's likely due to being Google's app and having tighter integration with the framework than carrier based bloat.

Stryke_the_Orc said:
Easy fix, just make hangouts your default SMS app...
Otherwise you're at the mercy of the carrier.
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Yeah hangouts works great. Only problem I have is you can't send or receive mms while on wifi calling.

Now i have always had that issue but my GF gets all my messages as one no matter how long i make it without turning it into an MMS and hers to me get chopped up. We both have sprint. And she has an S5.

adrianr514 said:
Now i have always had that issue but my GF gets all my messages as one no matter how long i make it without turning it into an MMS and hers to me get chopped up. We both have sprint. And she has an S5.
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Just tried this sending myself a very long text via Wi-Fi on Sprint messaging app; it does work to combine the messages without converting to MMS.
Like others have said variables may limit results. My wife is also on my Sprint account using an iPhone 5 and her messages to me split from what I can see; don't know if hers from me split or not. Cross platform texting hasn't been reliable.

Have you tried the setting?

KLPFL said:
Have you tried the setting?
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Initially failed to Motorola Photon Q. Had found the setting and enabled it and rebooted the phone; split the long message into 4 out-of-order texts. Did the System settings/System update/Update Profile on both phones and it works both ways. Sent the same text to to the iPhone 5 and it split. I've asked my wife to update her profile but she's busy; will try again later.
On my phone, had to defrost Samsung DM Service and reinstall Sprint Zone and let it update and opt out of EUL anonymous data sharing, agree to terms before I could update the profile.
BTW, combining the long text and sending a short text after that may have the shorter message arriving first. I actually sent an inquiry after getting notification that the long text test message had been forwarded back to me. The notice and inquiry went through before I got the combined message sent first.

I don't know if it happened to me or not.. never pay attention to it....gotta test later to see if if it's the same problem

How long is long. . I tested by sending to myself. But don't know if it is long enough.

My test text message consists of 80 words which was splitting into 4 text messages. Seems to be working between two different Android phones but still unknown if profile update will get it working cross-platform to/from iPhone. The Sprint iPhone 5 on the account seems to frequently have inability to sync texts with Android over Wi-Fi. Sometimes, it's just texting in general that the iPhone 5 loses.
For testing, just kept using the same message forwarded until it was received by both phones without the split.
May be wrong but sending it to yourself may only be an indication your phone can combine. It takes the profile update to tell Sprint you wish to use the combining method which appears to be an exception to every phone. Being on Gingerbread and CM for a long time, this is the first time I've seen the combining feature. About time! Hope it continues to work without frequent profile updates then broke again/update again.

This doesn't make sense. .i sent to my wife iPhone.. she received one full message but when she sent to me using the same text message it broke up to 4...wth

KLPFL said:
This doesn't make sense. .i sent to my wife iPhone.. she received one full message but when she sent to me using the same text message it broke up to 4...wth
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Did you perform the profile update on both phones? Does the Sprint iPhone have the combine text option for texts?
I haven't tried the profile update and retest with the iPhone 5 yet. Haven't seen the the settings menu on the iPhone 5, either. I think that phone is still on iOS7; afraid the update would result in early upgrade.

Not on the iPhone just the note 4

Open the stock messaging app and go to text message settings and make sure auto combination is checked.
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