Related
Please forgive my ignorance....Is not the wifi-calling issue a matter of having a kernel that supports it and having the apk that works with 2.3.5??? There are other 2.3.5 roms that work with T-Mobile's wifi-calling. I am in no way a developer nor do I understand much about this. I am simply offering what may or may not have already been thought of.
It won't be just an apk once tmo releases it for SGS2.
Sent from my SGH-T989
kepha said:
Please forgive my ignorance....Is not the wifi-calling issue a matter of having a kernel that supports it and having the apk that works with 2.3.5??? There are other 2.3.5 roms that work with T-Mobile's wifi-calling. I am in no way a developer nor do I understand much about this. I am simply offering what may or may not have already been thought of.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
when you say other roms are you by any chance talking about a rom for the gs2 or are you talking about other android tmo phones.
What I mean is that FOR NOW T-Mobile's wifi-calling is a matter of having the app and a kernal that supports it. There are other 2.3.5 roms that run the wifi calling app so it seems to me that it wouldn't be that hard to get it running on this phone. Who knows how long it will be until T-Mobile get this sim card wifi-calling going.
kepha said:
What I mean is that FOR NOW T-Mobile's wifi-calling is a matter of having the app and a kernal that supports it. There are other 2.3.5 roms that run the wifi calling app so it seems to me that it wouldn't be that hard to get it running on this phone. Who knows how long it will be until T-Mobile get this sim card wifi-calling going.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's actually a bit more than just the apk and kernel. You also need a RIL (radio int. layer) that supports the handoff. RIL is not open source, which is why you don't see oodles of TMO phones with wifi calling.
If it was just apk+kernel, wouldn't every phone on TMO have wifi calling?
WiFi calling will be baked into the OS rather than just being an apk.
See: http://www.tmonews.com/2011/12/htc-amaze-4g-owners-manual-update-pushing-out-wi-fi-calling/
InGeNeTiCs said:
WiFi calling will be baked into the OS rather than just being an apk.
See: http://www.tmonews.com/2011/12/htc-amaze-4g-owners-manual-update-pushing-out-wi-fi-calling/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's what I was referring to earlier, not just an apk anymore.
GideonX said:
It won't be just an apk once tmo releases it for SGS2.
Sent from my SGH-T989
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I hope we get wifi calling soon
Sent from my SGH-T989 using XDA Premium App
htc amaze just got an update with wifi calling
amorek13 said:
htc amaze just got an update with wifi calling
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That doesn't help us
amorek13 said:
htc amaze just got an update with wifi calling
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That doesn't help, it hurts. Now T-mobile has a premium phone with wifi calling and the other variants that have the old version. There is no need for them to RUSH to get it to us, the amaze people have just become T-mobiles "beta" testers as the alpha with the devs and employees is done. Expect delays and pushbacks now on our phone. Like I said before, and please T-mobile prove me wrong, Samsung is HORRIBLE with updates and we will be lucky to see this before the new year.
Ugh even my gf's g2x has wifi calling.
Did everyone here get the sim card? All three of us (family) got new sim cards when we got our new phones back in Oct. Supposedly required for the wifi calling.
Is this wifi calling they're rolling out supposed to be like UMA on BB? Where it will hand off between wifi and cell? Had the BB a long time ago and UMA was pretty slick. Had the original Galaxy S with wifi calling previously and voice was sketchy, delayed. But it was great for receiving texts in our crappy location.
GideonX said:
That doesn't help us
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+ 1 lol
Sent from my SGH-T989 using XDA Premium App
today T-mobile released Wifi calling for the Galaxy s2 It´s understandable because of the release of the white galaxy s2 that they release it today
escrowdog said:
Did everyone here get the sim card? All three of us (family) got new sim cards when we got our new phones back in Oct. Supposedly required for the wifi calling.
Is this wifi calling they're rolling out supposed to be like UMA on BB? Where it will hand off between wifi and cell? Had the BB a long time ago and UMA was pretty slick. Had the original Galaxy S with wifi calling previously and voice was sketchy, delayed. But it was great for receiving texts in our crappy location.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's not uma its ims.
Sent from my SGH-T989 using xda premium
Not really sure how to properly start a bounty thread, and direction is appreciated. Also don't know if this is even possible as I know porting wifi calling has proven to be nearly impossible on other devices, e.g. Nexus S. However, doesn't hurt to ask and I know it was done on Nexus One. Am using Galaxy Nexus on TMo, if that makes any difference.
Really, desperately need wifi calling for reception purposes in my apartment. Left TMo's Galaxy S2 for the Galaxy Nexus, love everything about it except lack of reception in home.
I know I can utilize Google Voice, but I need to be able to use my TMo number for both incoming and outgoing calls as well as texts, and not interested in porting my mobile number to Google.
I'm willing to fork over $100 for working wifi calling, if anyone is up to the challenge... if even possible...
Also, if anyone has alternate suggestion (not Google Voice, something that utilizes TMo mobile number, would be GREATLY appreciated!!
If this is possible that would be awesome. But I believe UMA is strictly a tmo thing
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk
I use Groove IP app exclusively for calls, both over wifi and 3G/HSPA+. I am on the T-mobile $30/unlimited data/100min plan, so it is a must for me. It works great! and only a few bucks on the market. You will need a Google Voice account, and to set it to ring Google Talk, and maybe a little other setup, but it is pretty simple.
Tubes6al4v said:
I use Groove IP app exclusively for calls, both over wifi and 3G/HSPA+. I am on the T-mobile $30/unlimited data/100min plan, so it is a must for me. It works great! and only a few bucks on the market. You will need a Google Voice account, and to set it to ring Google Talk, and maybe a little other setup, but it is pretty simple.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for suggestion but I really need my TMo mobile number to work, and I'm not looking to port it to GV...
lp1527 said:
Thanks for suggestion but I really need my TMo mobile number to work, and I'm not looking to port it to GV...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I will match whatever contribution you make. I want to see the WiFi calling in the ways of the HTC Glacier (MT4G)...
Verizon has a network extender that plugs into your home internet connection. It gives you a cell signal in your house and routes it over the internet back to Verizon. There is no monthly fee just a charge of the device. $250 i think. Maybe TMo has a similar device.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/accessory?action=gotoFemtocell
pharpe said:
Verizon has a network extender that plugs into your home internet connection. It gives you a cell signal in your house and routes it over the internet back to Verizon. There is no monthly fee just a charge of the device. $250 i think. Maybe TMo has a similar device.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/accessory?action=gotoFemtocell
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
GSM, on T-Mobile
But thanks for the suggestion...
pharpe said:
Verizon has a network extender that plugs into your home internet connection. It gives you a cell signal in your house and routes it over the internet back to Verizon. There is no monthly fee just a charge of the device. $250 i think. Maybe TMo has a similar device.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/accessory?action=gotoFemtocell
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
TMo does have a signal booster device, but it cannot be implemented in shared-wall structures (i.e. apartment buildings). Also, have many places, such as family homes, with lousy in-door coverage where wi-fi calling makes all the difference in the world.
i called tmo last month i fact complaining of a low signal in my town home. they sent me a signal booster for free.. from 1 bar downstairs to now 5 bars
BiGMERF said:
i called tmo last month i fact complaining of a low signal in my town home. they sent me a signal booster for free.. from 1 bar downstairs to now 5 bars
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's awesome! Unfortunately they're not allowed in apartment buildings so won't help me.
I desperately need wi-fi calling!!!
lp1527 said:
That's awesome! Unfortunately they're not allowed in apartment buildings so won't help me.
I desperately need wi-fi calling!!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, the cops might hall you off!
lp1527 said:
That's awesome! Unfortunately they're not allowed in apartment buildings so won't help me.
I desperately need wi-fi calling!!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Who's going to stop you..?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
jyames said:
Yeah, the cops might hall you off!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
joshnichols189 said:
Who's going to stop you..?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well I'm not scared of the signal booster police!
Unfortunately they check your address to verify. NO, I don't know if/how they can verify ALL shared wall structures, but for someone like me with "Apt. 5J" attached to my address it's not difficult. The issue is you need to register your address in case of emergency, as 911 cannot definitely and accurately determine your address if making a call using signal booster. So the issue is that if a neighbor picks up your signal without knowing and makes an emergency call, 911 may not be able to identify address. I know it's a long shot but it's not MY rule. And afaik, you cannot lock the signal to exclude others as you can with wifi.
jyames said:
Yeah, the cops might hall you off!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh, and hall = haul when referring to carrying someone away. Just saying
I think the booster is tied to your cell account... so you might have a fun surprise.
The wifi calling was awesome but ultimately its property of T-Mobile and doesn't work on ICS. T-Mobile must update it before even attempting to porting it over.
CM team has used it a ton. Maybe they'll implement it in their CM9 rom. But I suspect they'll be busy just ironing out the bugs for a while.
Plus T-Mobile is doing away with wifi calling as we know it. I BELIEVE they're implementing a new system and probably going to charge for it.
Hopefully T-Mobile gets this working on some ICS (Nexus?) when it releases.
-Galaxy Nexus
-Asus Transformer
player911 said:
I think the booster is tied to your cell account... so you might have a fun surprise.
The wifi calling was awesome but ultimately its property of T-Mobile and doesn't work on ICS. T-Mobile must update it before even attempting to porting it over.
CM team has used it a ton. Maybe they'll implement it in their CM9 rom. But I suspect they'll be busy just ironing out the bugs for a while.
Plus T-Mobile is doing away with wifi calling as we know it. I BELIEVE they're implementing a new system and probably going to charge for it.
Hopefully T-Mobile gets this working on some ICS (Nexus?) when it releases.
-Galaxy Nexus
-Asus Transformer
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You're correct that wifi calling is very proprietary to T-Mobile and from what I understand (I'm not a developer whatsoever), is extremely difficult to impossible to port. I've been watching them try it on Nexus S since its release a year ago.
Unfortunately T-Mobile won't make it available to a non-branded TMo phone so unless Galaxy Nexus is released directly by TMo (which I doubt will happen), it won't happen even when they update it for their own ICS devices.
ALso, TMo did in fact change the implementation of their wifi calling- it's already been released on new devices such as TMo Galaxy S2 and HTC Amaze. However they are not and will not be charging for it (in fact they've again enabled free calls that don't use plan minutes when calling on wifi), it has just changed the way it's handled (better performance). Little to no noticeable change to end users.
Would be great if CM team get it working on Galaxy Nexus!
Good thoughts, thanks!
lp1527 said:
You're correct that wifi calling is very proprietary to T-Mobile and from what I understand (I'm not a developer whatsoever), is extremely difficult to impossible to port. I've been watching them try it on Nexus S since its release a year ago.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The problem on the Nexus S has nothing to do with the Wifi Calling app (which is actually made by Kineto), the problem is the radio interface layer (from Samsung) which is a binary blob. It does not support what the Wifi calling software requires to work (authentication calls mainly). Kineto blames Google for not "requesting" this feature from Samsung.
Getting the Kineto app up and working was really not that difficult. The only thing that needed to be changed was an audio library because the constructor was changed from Froyo to Gingerbread. That had nothing to do with the Kineto/Wifi calling software other than it used that constructor.
lp1527 said:
Unfortunately T-Mobile won't make it available to a non-branded TMo phone so unless Galaxy Nexus is released directly by TMo (which I doubt will happen), it won't happen even when they update it for their own ICS devices.
ALso, TMo did in fact change the implementation of their wifi calling- it's already been released on new devices such as TMo Galaxy S2 and HTC Amaze. However they are not and will not be charging for it (in fact they've again enabled free calls that don't use plan minutes when calling on wifi), it has just changed the way it's handled (better performance). Little to no noticeable change to end users.
Would be great if CM team get it working on Galaxy Nexus!
Good thoughts, thanks!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I believe there is also a hardware component to it now (SIM based).
If anyone wants to try this I can give you the necessary info to get started.
krohnjw said:
The problem on the Nexus S has nothing to do with the Wifi Calling app (which is actually made by Kineto), the problem is the radio interface layer (from Samsung) which is a binary blob. It does not support what the Wifi calling software requires to work (authentication calls mainly). Kineto blames Google for not "requesting" this feature from Samsung.
Getting the Kineto app up and working was really not that difficult. The only thing that needed to be changed was an audio library because the constructor was changed from Froyo to Gingerbread. That had nothing to do with the Kineto/Wifi calling software other than it used that constructor.
I believe there is also a hardware component to it now (SIM based).
If anyone wants to try this I can give you the necessary info to get started.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well you clearly know much more than I do about it! Like I said, I'm absolutely no dev and have only 'average' knowledge of these things. Thanks for the info! Any idea if the GN has what would be necessary to make it happen?
I use my own asterisk box, but I'm sure a pbxes account would work for you. Just use the built-in sip client on the galaxy nexus.
https://www1.pbxes.com/index_e.php
nomisunrider said:
I use my own asterisk box, but I'm sure a pbxes account would work for you. Just use the built-in sip client on the galaxy nexus.
https://www1.pbxes.com/index_e.php
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Checked out the link but I still have NO clue what this is ... can you elaborate please? Thanks!
I went to a sprint store today and played with the galaxy nexus and the lg viper. The viper is able to surf and talk at the same time the galaxy a no go. Does anybody know why
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using XDA
you're holding it wrong...
Why would you need to?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
dexterboy1106 said:
I went to a sprint store today and played with the galaxy nexus and the lg viper. The viper is able to surf and talk at the same time the galaxy a no go. Does anybody know why
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
They both can if they're on LTE or WiFi. The Viper doesn't have SV-DO so... those are the only options.
dexterboy1106 said:
I went to a sprint store today and played with the galaxy nexus and the lg viper. The viper is able to surf and talk at the same time the galaxy a no go. Does anybody know why
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using XDA
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well you can on the GN, if on LTE.
The reason the Viper can do it is because Qualcomm puts their LTE and 3G on one radio, and voice on another in some of their devices (Thunderbolt, Rezound, Viper).
The radios in the GN have voice and 3g on one radio, and LTE on another.
martonikaj said:
They both can if they're on LTE or WiFi. The Viper doesn't have SV-DO so... those are the only options.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Actually, it has the same radios as the Thunderbolt and Rezound, so it is one of the few devices that can do it over 3G.
adrynalyne said:
Actually, it has the same radios as the Thunderbolt and Rezound, so it is one of the few devices that can do it over 3G.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thats interesting because its not listed as an SV-DO device (although apparently it is), which is usually synonymous with simultaneous voice/data on 3G.
martonikaj said:
Thats interesting because its not listed as an SV-DO device (although apparently it is), which is usually synonymous with simultaneous voice/data on 3G.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am not sure if the Rezound was either.
While not advertised, there are whisperings of it being available on the sprint forums.
adrynalyne said:
I am not sure if the Rezound was either.
While not advertised, there are whisperings of it being available on the sprint forums.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
interesting.
I only bring it up cause I thought is was weird that a top end phone can't do it but a entry device can. I came from att iPhone to sprint epic then to the nexus s cause updates are quicker on the nexus s 4g. If your a smart phone user and say you don't surf and talk your a liar. Let me call you right back I'll look it up on the web.
I forgot to mention this is in Lancaster Ca no lte in the area at all both phones were on 3g and the rep was saying "that shouldn't work your probably on wifi" I told him its disabled. He's like o.
Sent from my A500 using XDA
dexterboy1106 said:
I only bring it up cause I thought is was weird that a top end phone can't do it but a entry device can. I came from att iPhone to sprint epic then to the nexus s cause updates are quicker on the nexus s 4g. If your a smart phone user and say you don't surf and talk your a liar. Let me call you right back I'll look it up on the web.
Sent from my A500 using XDA
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The only time I've ever "talked and surfed" at the same time is tethering my phone to my computer and taking a call.
martonikaj said:
The only time I've ever "talked and surfed" at the same time is tethering my phone to my computer and taking a call.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think I did it once to...see if I could.
Most overrated feature ever.
adrynalyne said:
I think I did it once to...see if I could.
Most overrated feature ever.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Like I said its only useful when tethering for me. When on Sprint it was quite annoying that every text or call dropped my tethered connection.
Talking and surfing both on the phone? Not very useful.
I've used talk and surf at the same time on occasion.
I'm on the phone and my wife asks me for an address and I have to look it up on google while still on the phone with her. I guess I could have called her back, but it is convenient regardless even though that has happened maybe twice. Definitely not a deal breaker though.
I wonder if its a ginger bread and ice cream sandwich issue cause all the phones that can do it are running on gb.
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using XDA
The Viper is an Simultaneous Voice and Data (SVDO) phone. FCC tests did back that up. Even the EVO 4G LTE can do SVDO. And I have needed that capability since I switched from at&t to Sprint last February. I'm glad that I'm getting the opportunity to have that feature again. And Sprint did say that the Viper will be receiving it's ICS update in the near future so I don't think that there are software limitations in Android that would cause problems with SVDO.
dexterboy1106 said:
I wonder if its a ginger bread and ice cream sandwich issue cause all the phones that can do it are running on gb.
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using XDA
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nothing to do with ICS or GB. It has everything everything to do with the SoC that's used. Newer Snapdragons support SVDO.
Also, just to dispel another misconception, the GN is not a "top end phone." Rather, it's meant to be the baseline.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
Looks like G flex just got wifi calling through an update, and all of Sprints triband LTE devices are supposed to be compatible. Anyone heard about attempts to port this over to the G2?
ajamer said:
Looks like G flex just got wifi calling through an update, and all of Sprints triband LTE devices are supposed to be compatible. Anyone heard about attempts to port this over to the G2?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No because it is coming to the G2, at some point.
bigpappa said:
No because it is coming to the G2, at some point.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hopefully, but Sprint isn't super aggressive with updates for older phones
ajamer said:
Hopefully, but Sprint isn't super aggressive with updates for older phones
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
the lg g2 seems to be getting updates every 3-4 months, and we have another one coming soon since the source code is already posted on the LG website. It has been speculated but not yet confirmed that this upcoming update will have wifi calling
No Wifi calling in the latest update!
yup, hope it comes soon
I had they may have another update that puts that feature in
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk
Does anyone know if Voice calls are over data? I can't do anything over the internet while I'm on a call.
Not data unless it put it in hd voice maybe. But usually you can't browse our such while on a call
Sent from my LG-LS980 using Tapatalk
I keep getting updates every few days for a week or so. (I hope this is for that feature)
I still have an issue with "updating profile-system error" so I think there is more to come or something else...been not liking Sprint lately.
Stock ZVC rooted
Sorry to revive this thread, but is anyone working on this by any chance? It's been about a year or more since Sprint announced Wi-Fi calling and there is still nothing for the G2...
I think this would complete my wish list for my G2, still haven't found a ROM with this feature yet.
Any here have a pixel 3 from canada. Just wondering if Roger's or bell lock their bootloaders?
Sent from my SM-G955F using Tapatalk
I'm with you bro. Phone is much better since December update. Slow community dev but...
crazynewfie said:
Any here have a pixel 3 from canada. Just wondering if Roger's or bell lock their bootloaders?
Sent from my SM-G955F using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm on Fido and I've unlocked my bootloader and root with no problems.
KAPABLE-K said:
I'm on Fido and I've unlocked my bootloader and root with no problems.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Good to know. I'm coming form samsung S8. I ended up buying the European version so I could root. Roger's locks the samsung down.
Sent from my SM-G955F using Tapatalk
The only thing i'm disappointed with is that Fido did not provision it for video calling. I spoke to the tech department and was told Google will be rolling out an update to fix that and RCS because the phone is not reading what features the plan has.
Then I was told that video calling over the network is not capable because the phone comes preloaded with DUO which it does not. So I don't know what to believe but I would like for them to provision it for the video calling so I don't have to use my data.
I unlocked and rooted mine on Telus.
i am with bell Canada and have a google store unlocked pixel 3 xl. turns out bell retards only allow bell sold phones to work with WiFi calling. has someone found a way around this?
it also seems this functionality only works in Canada! has anyone tried using a vpn connection to Canada to be able to use this functionality?
reason why i am so interested is my work takes me where there is no cell coverage and having WiFi calling would be great!
thanks
paascal said:
i am with bell Canada and have a google store unlocked pixel 3 xl. turns out bell retards only allow bell sold phones to work with WiFi calling. has someone found a way around this?
it also seems this functionality only works in Canada! has anyone tried using a vpn connection to Canada to be able to use this functionality?
reason why i am so interested is my work takes me where there is no cell coverage and having WiFi calling would be great!
thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Id like to know where you see that pixel has WiFi calling on bell
I'm on Bell and there is no mention of it that I have found. Only iPhone
c_86 said:
Id like to know where you see that pixel has WiFi calling on bell
I'm on Bell and there is no mention of it that I have found. Only iPhone
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
you can find it here
https://www.bell.ca/Mobility/Wi-Fi-Calling#INT=Search_SearchResults_TitleLink
but thats not the question i was asking
crazynewfie said:
Any here have a pixel 3 from canada. Just wondering if Roger's or bell lock their bootloaders?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No they don't. Only verizon as far as I know
---------- Post added at 06:59 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:58 PM ----------
paascal said:
you can find it here
https://www.bell.ca/Mobility/Wi-Fi-Calling#INT=Search_SearchResults_TitleLink
but thats not the question i was asking
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I doubt it to be honest. You can try talking with tech support and see. But unless it's registered as sold in their database it might not be able to
Still doesn't make any sence, all they require is google pixel 3... No where does it say bell issued. It's carrier unlocked so why would it make any sence they give partial access to what is offered to the phones sold by bell... And yes I talked to them no one knows why and they rather loose a client than change it. . They are idiots!
Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk
paascal said:
Still doesn't make any sence, all they require is google pixel 3... No where does it say bell issued. It's carrier unlocked so why would it make any sence they give partial access to what is offered to the phones sold by bell... And yes I talked to them no one knows why and they rather loose a client than change it. . They are idiots!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Welcome to Canadian carriers...
paascal said:
i am with bell Canada and have a google store unlocked pixel 3 xl. turns out bell retards only allow bell sold phones to work with WiFi calling. has someone found a way around this?
it also seems this functionality only works in Canada! has anyone tried using a vpn connection to Canada to be able to use this functionality?
reason why i am so interested is my work takes me where there is no cell coverage and having WiFi calling would be great!
thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Have you tried calling bell to see if they'd connect it for you? I did that with Telus with my new non Telus 3XL, and they were able to make the WiFi calling work.
nate_benji said:
Have you tried calling bell to see if they'd connect it for you? I did that with Telus with my new non Telus 3XL, and they were able to make the WiFi calling work.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I tried this and they basically told me no go, I went to rogers and have RCS/VoWiFi/VoLTE all working perfectly
DespairFactor said:
I tried this and they basically told me no go, I went to rogers and have RCS/VoWiFi/VoLTE all working perfectly
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So does Freedom.