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I was downloading maps for Nokia Drive (entire US) and I was sitting on fully functional WI-FI. I was assuming it was downloading the maps over wi-fi because wi-fi was fully active on my device so i put it on the bed and started doing my computer business. But after a while I started to receive emails&sms from AT&T saying I'm almost over my data limit. I killed the download process and made sure it was on wi-fi. Started it again, and it was using my data to download again.
So, why the hell is it using my data connection to download maps? I didn't turn my data off, but isn't Nokia Drive supposed to download maps ONLY when on Wi-Fi?
That's odd. My L900 Wi-Fi always takes precedence. Only used 500MB on my Unlimited plan last month with Wi-Fi on most of the time.
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Does anybody know if there is an app that can check if I'm using wi-fi as my phone tells me I am?
2 Things to think about here...
1) I've noticed that my Lumia 900 still sometimes downloads off the cell net even if Wi-Fi is active and working. I think this is a bug.
2) If you phone goes in to standby mode, Wi-Fi will turn off, and it'll start downloading over cell network. I've had this happen with downloading games off the marketplace that start over wifi, but then stop, and resume over the cell network when the screen/phone goes in to standby mode.
Contacted Nokia, they said that if wifi is unstable (meaning disconnects even once for a minute), it will automatically switch to data to download maps. Wish I knew that before.. 3GB gone in an hour.
Future downloaders, take note. If you want to download maps without data, make sure you switch your data off before downloading.
Bandwidth will tell you while running a speedtest if you are on WiFi, 4G, LTE, etc. But you can only sideload this app now as it was removed from Marketplace. Not sure if the other speedtest apps also provide that info.
I have noticed at least one app, Fox News, that only appears to like a data connection. So if I turn data off for a couple hours, but leave WiFi on, and even if I am almost constantly using the phone, the Background agent will be disabled within a hour or two. I suspect other apps may have some coding that could cause this kind of problem.
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erzhik said:
Contacted Nokia, they said that if wifi is unstable (meaning disconnects even once for a minute), it will automatically switch to data to download maps. Wish I knew that before.. 3GB gone in an hour.
Future downloaders, take note. If you want to download maps without data, make sure you switch your data off before downloading.
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I just got one of these for my wife. Being an Android guy, I am lost at how some things work on this phone. I see here it's mentioned to turn data off.... How?
It's in Settings --> Cellular.
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It's in Settings --> Cellular.
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Yup just saw that in the manual duh
WP7 by design will turn off wi-fi whenever phone goes into sleep (you can easily verify this by wake up your phone and check the wi-fi icon on status bar. It will start beaming up because wi-fi is connecting). However, you can change this behavior by keep the phone plugged into the charger.
Because of this, anytime you want to do any kind of big download, swipe down your status bar and verify your wi-fi icon is active and steady. You don't need an app to tell that.
Remember, just because you have wi-fi turned on doesn't mean your phone is using it all the time.
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As I mentioned in my earlier thread I recently bought a Motorola Defy. Like many other users that I read about before purchasing my first android smartphone I was not able to open Google Market app after a factory reset.
My hint is based on my own experience and I hope it serves someone else well with similar issue.
As I write this message I have no data plan on my contract and I intend to use wireless connection for emailing, internet browsing, and the Market app. Once I completed the initial setup I put my handset's network mode to 2G only. I was worried to be charged for accessing data on 3G.
I had no problem using the Market app initially over the wireless connection until I did a refactory reset to re-setup my handset properly second time round. It was then the Market app stopped working and not even a master reset resolves the problem and then I was considering to root the handset to remove certain folders as a solution to the problem.
Everytime I laucnhed the Market app it stuck at Terms and Services page. It then occurred to me to change the network mode to Automatic and switch off the wireless connection to see what would happen. Next time I laucnhed the Market app it took me straight to the market's home page. It took me two days to figure this out : (
Once I was in the market I switched the network mode back to 2G only and turned on the wireless again. Everything is working just fine now. For the porpose of this thread I powered off the handset and turned it on again to see if my last settings i.e. 2G only still launches the Market app successfully or not. I can confirm that the Market app works just fine over the wireless connection just fine with 2G only network mode.
BTW, the batter life of this handset is so impressive. I used it one and half day very extensively (over 20 times of restarting the handset alone) and I was very surprised lasted that long. On moderate use and proper battery management (no widgets, no 24 wireless connection), and putting it on air plane mode at nights I would get over 2.5 days before charging is required.
I can't wait for Android 2.2 release to make this handset even more productive for me : )
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As I write this message I have no data plan on my contract and I intend to use wireless connection for emailing, internet browsing, and the Market app. Once I completed the initial setup I put my handset's network mode to 2G only. I was worried to be charged for accessing data on 3G.
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I think you may have a misconception of 2G versus 3G. They are different technologies. When your phone is in 2G mode, it uses one type of network for both voice and data. In 3G mode it uses another type which provides better voice quality and faster data speeds.
Either way your phone will still try to access data unless you turn off mobile data. If it's in 2G mode and you see the little "E" icon up in the notification area, it's still accessing mobile data - just at a slower rate.
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I think you may have a misconception of 2G versus 3G. They are different technologies. When your phone is in 2G mode, it uses one type of network for both voice and data. In 3G mode it uses another type which provides better voice quality and faster data speeds.
Either way your phone will still try to access data unless you turn off mobile data. If it's in 2G mode and you see the little "E" icon up in the notification area, it's still accessing mobile data - just at a slower rate.
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Thank you for your inputs. I'm very new in the world of smartphones but learning fast.
I searched around to find out how to disable Mobile data and chosen this method *#*#4636#*#* and changed my network type to GSM for best coverage and battery life now. I can confirm the Masrket app still works with wireless connection.
Changing to GSM only does not disable mobile data.
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Changing to GSM only does not disable mobile data.
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I disabled the Mobile Data option by pressing the Settings button then More>Disable Mobile Data. It was then I noticed the options for changing my network type beyond just 2G and 3G.
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I disabled the Mobile Data option by pressing the Settings button then More>Disable Mobile Data. It was then I noticed the options for changing my network type beyond just 2G and 3G.
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Did that work then? You no longer connect with mobile date, I'm asking because I have now ordered my Defy but like you don't have a network plan so need a workaround.
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I disabled the Mobile Data option by pressing the Settings button then More>Disable Mobile Data. It was then I noticed the options for changing my network type beyond just 2G and 3G.
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Right ok, thanks for clarifying
In Froyo there is a mobile data toggle in the regular menus, and on all Sense phones too. Is there one on Blur phones? I guess not.
Another way to block data is to go to your APN list and fudge the entry (e.g. change epc.tmobile.com to epc.tmobile.com.nodata).
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Did that work then? You no longer connect with mobile date, I'm asking because I have now ordered my Defy but like you don't have a network plan so need a workaround.
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The only way I can assure you I have successfully disabled Mobile Data by looking at the reception icon in notification bar that no longer displays G, H, E, and 3G at anytime.
This issue has happend 2 times. It used my 3G data over 90MB for APP downloading!
As you know, the phone won't allow you to download a big APP without wifi or pc connection by design.
Yesterday I downloaded the trial version of Need for Speed(about 127MB) from marketplace and turned on WIFI before that. I just checked the detailed list of my 3G usage yesterday. In that time it downloaded 90MB+ from 3G network in 20 minutes.
I guess the phone turned off the wifi in sleep mode and continue downloading the APP through 3G.
It should be a bug!
Yes, it is a known issue that WP7 turns off wi-fi when phone goes into sleep. To work around this issue, you need to keep the phone plugged in.
Modern wi-fi chips in phones drain less battery juice when you leave it on all the time than constantly off-on-off. Also, it does not necessary use more battery downloading via wi-fi than 3G. I guess MS didn't get that notice when implementing WP7
We can only hope this is addressed in upcoming NoDo update.
Pretty sure this feature isn't designed like this to save battery while connected to a wifi network, I'm sure it's implemented with this design to save battery while you AREN'T in range of one of your networks, rather than having the wireless chip constantly poll for networks...
As someone else said, just plug your phone into the power outlet and wifi will always stay on.
So I've been playing around with the Lumia 900 for a while now (even though its going to be obsoleted soon ) and I have a question.
If I have both Wifi and Data turned on, which does the phone prefer? And does this depend on the app I use or is it system-wide?
I don't have unlimited data (yet) and so Wifi is what I want to use when at home. Do you guys have any insight into this??
Phone will always use wifi first is it is available. However, WP7 is designed to turn off wifi when your phone sleeps (e.g. turns off screen) unless the phone is plugged in for charge. So, if you are not using the phone, make sure it is plugged in. Otherwise, the phone will use cell data connection.
I have an Unlocked HTC 10 that I bought directly from HTC. Sometime, when I try to send a text and I'm on Wifi, whether I have a connection to my mobile data or not, the attempt is an automatic failure, even if I try to resend. If I turn off wifi, it won't enable my data connection, even if I turn it off then back on. It forces me to toggle airplane mode on then off If I want to send a text or browse the web. Also, to make things worse, the issue is completely random. I have no idea that it has happened until I try to send a text. TBH, I'm not even sure if wifi is part of the problem, like maybe it is disconnecting from Mobile Data regardless. If it matters, my carrier is T-Mobile.
Keep in mind, I have wifi calling disabled because it was more trouble than it was worth. But for some reason, the phone won't switch to data without my intervention. If I go out of range of the wifi, it will switch, but not all of the time.
Like right now, under my connection settings, Mobile Data says "Disconnected" even though it is turned on. When I just toggled Airplane Mode like I stated above, the connection was established immediately.
Why is the phone not connecting to the Mobile Network automatically? It seems like common sense when it comes to smart phones nowadays and is really annoying when I send a text, only to find out 30 minutes later, it didn't even try.
From other threads it seems to be an issue with the most recent update from HTC. Only fix right now is to flash a ROM that isn't running the latest update.
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I've read (and THINK I understand) what smart switch is supposed to do (going all the way back to the Note4.
And it seems like the complete opposite of what wifi calling does.
Anyone care to explain the difference or real reasons one is used over the other?
Also on a related note, in the developer options category there is an option to turn on "Aggressive Wi-Fi cell h.."
With the explanation "switch from wifi to mobile networks more quickly when wifi signal is weak"
Kind of self explanatory and my question would be real work use. If you have unlimited data, any reason you would NOT want to check this?
Unless this just sounds great, but doesn't work well......
Thoughts?
vtcats said:
I've read (and THINK I understand) what smart switch is supposed to do (going all the way back to the Note4.
And it seems like the complete opposite of what wifi calling does.
Anyone care to explain the difference or real reasons one is used over the other?
Also on a related note, in the developer options category there is an option to turn on "Aggressive Wi-Fi cell h.."
With the explanation "switch from wifi to mobile networks more quickly when wifi signal is weak"
Kind of self explanatory and my question would be real work use. If you have unlimited data, any reason you would NOT want to check this?
Unless this just sounds great, but doesn't work well......
Thoughts?
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Smart switch imports the data from your old phone when you switch to a Samsung phone; WiFi calling routes voice traffic over WiFi when available.
Sorry, I meant to say Smart NETWORK Switch. It says your phone will be connected to a mobile network if Wifi becomes unstable.
And Wi-fi calling kinda of says the exact opposite. If mobile becomes unstable, it will switch to Wifi......
Anyone?
Many times.. even when the wifi signal is weak, as long as wifi is turned on, the phone will remain connected to it. This especially happens when you are just pulling out of your house and you are trying to get to google maps for directions or something.. but because the phone is still connected to your home wifi, it'll remain so and since the connection is weak, you won't be able to browse or anything and google maps may say "no network connection".
I believe what Smart Network Switch does, is that in such cases, it'll immediately switch to mobile data.
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Many times.. even when the wifi signal is weak, as long as wifi is turned on, the phone will remain connected to it. This especially happens when you are just pulling out of your house and you are trying to get to google maps for directions or something.. but because the phone is still connected to your home wifi, it'll remain so and since the connection is weak, you won't be able to browse or anything and google maps may say "no network connection".
I believe what Smart Network Switch does, is that in such cases, it'll immediately switch to mobile data.
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This happens to me every morning in my driveway trying to route Waze. I get a weak wifi signal that the phone hangs onto and I get a no network error from Waze.