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CAN ANYBODY GUIDE ME ON HOW TO INSTALL WM6 ON MY SE M600i
of course NOT!..
its like saying "can i LOAD PSP to my Gameboy Color"
double_ofour said:
of course NOT!..
its like saying "can i LOAD PSP to my Gameboy Color"
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lol lol
ravinbajaj said:
CAN ANYBODY GUIDE ME ON HOW TO INSTALL WM6 ON MY SE M600i
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You cannot put Windows Mobile to SE M600i, It is a diffrent OS platform.
hahahahaha
can I load the ROM from other type? like can I load a WM6 from an Atom to a XDA III?
That's about like asking my wife if I can have a sex change...
I really don't know whether to laugh or cry at your ignorance.
sorry for this silly question
I was considering if it's like PC OS that have almost the same core and can be modified before deploy to another station.
imnewer said:
sorry for this silly question
I was considering if it's like PC OS that have almost the same core and can be modified before deploy to another station.
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It could be possible like using the HTC Wizard rom for a Charmer... This has already been done... Still it's a silly question without having checked the inner hardware, etc.
So yes, this CAN be done... (if the hardware is not too different)
It is not like PC OS at all. I should probably send you to the WiKi but I do have a bit of time to burn so here is the explanation:
First, you can not load Windows Mobile on to devices with other OS. It would be the same as trying to run Windows on a Mac or Mac OS on a PC, the BIOS (or in our case bootloader) wouldn't support it, plus I am fairly sure there is some difference in processor architecture so it can't "understand" the code at all.
Second you can not change ROM between different Windows Mobile devices because unlike desktop PC Windows Mobile comes in an image bundled with drivers and other hardware specific components. Flashing the wrong image will brick the device, and there is no such thing as "generic" WM installation.
To conclude: You can not put WM on anything other that the devices that have official or unofficial update to this OS.
thank you so much guys for guide me a lot.
I knew that different devices might built in different architectures, but some of the devices use same series of cpu. and also did concern about different hardware need respective driver...but not aware of the encryption there might be...
thx for the explanation~
levenum said:
It is not like PC OS at all. I should probably send you to the WiKi but I do have a bit of time to burn so here is the explanation:
First, you can not load Windows Mobile on to devices with other OS. It would be the same as trying to run Windows on a Mac or Mac OS on a PC, the BIOS (or in our case bootloader) wouldn't support it, plus I am fairly sure there is some difference in processor architecture so it can't "understand" the code at all.
Second you can not change ROM between different Windows Mobile devices because unlike desktop PC Windows Mobile comes in an image bundled with drivers and other hardware specific components. Flashing the wrong image will brick the device, and there is no such thing as "generic" WM installation.
To conclude: You can not put WM on anything other that the devices that have official or unofficial update to this OS.
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have a look at the facts you can run windows xxxx on a imac and mac mini and you can run mac osx on a pc so it may be possible to run windows mobile on se m600
jim
HI-JET said:
have a look at the facts you can run windows xxxx on a imac and mac mini and you can run mac osx on a pc so it may be possible to run windows mobile on se m600
jim
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Well it may very well be possible, but not with the tools available to us or any other average joe.
masr1979 said:
Well it may very well be possible, but not with the tools available to us or any other average joe.
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go to link and read for you self how it done run oxs on a pc
http://www.osx86project.org/
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go to link and read for you self how it done run windows on imac and mac mini
http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/
jim
this thread has to be the dumbest one ive seen in awhile..
HI-JET said:
go to link and read for you self how it done run oxs on a pc
http://www.osx86project.org/
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go to link and read for you self how it done run windows on imac and mac mini
http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/
jim
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I wasn't referring to osx on pc as I'm well aware of that. The question is can you direct me to a link where it shows some readily available hardware and software to port WM6 to a sony M600? not that I could do anything with the info, simply for arguments sake.
it becomes boring...Linux can be load on Xbox...just imagination, maybe there will be some way to load a WM rom within sort of hardward series...(like Dopod 828 & 838 & P800 are most the same series for TI cpu etc)...
Settle down, pleas I did not mean to start a debate.
When I was talking about Mac and PC I just wanted to use the older, Motorola processor based architecture as an example. (Forgot Macs use Intel these days).
Any way - Windows Mobile like any OS can be adopted to any platform - in theory, but the radical changes required are beyond the scope of private enthusiasts such as on this site.
Even if processor architecture is the same, you would at the very least have to rewrite all the drivers for the given device, and that is an enormous task.
it would most likely require access to the sourcecode (not something ms let you download being they hate opensoufce) and a team of developers to make new developing to support hardware they might not have any spcs on (not something sonyE hand out at the door)
depending one how much backward enginering would be required
1 man year of developer time
for each enuiqe platform
this is not counting the lawsuits from ms and or sonyE
and the man years of answering questions of people wanting to know if it works on their old nokia 3110
I cannot work out how to enable HSDPA on my commodore 64, could some one tell me if installing WM6 would help with this?
why doesn't anybody consider making a android based rom for the touch vogue? heck id even be up for a iphone cloned based rom, we need something different! the problem with most iphone themes are that they just mask windows, what we need is a true overall, complete system theme!
anybody up for the challenge?
Accidental Double post
android is already out their through a linux boot loader Iphone I drought it our vouge's cant handle that
theoneownz said:
android is already out their through a linux boot loader Iphone I drought it our vouge's cant handle that
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yeah but why can't we just make a rom so we can run android natively? as far as the iphone, i mean our version of the iphone, not the actual apple software!
fixxxer2008 said:
yeah but why can't we just make a rom so we can run android natively? as far as the iphone, i mean our version of the iphone, not the actual apple software!
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If it's so easy, why don't you do it
It's very difficult to do... nobody has figured out how yet.
i just wish android would just be able to load from one file instead of multiple files on the sd's root
Android is linux...
jnrbshp said:
i just wish android would just be able to load from one file instead of multiple files on the sd's root
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Let Me start of By saying you have a great idea.. you probably know that android was developed by Google, Microsoft's current largest competitor. Las Week Google Announced That Th Chromium Project is working out so greatly that they plan on makeing a full on desktop replacement operating system based on the linux kernel. Currently The Only Other Operating System Google Has Made Is andriod, No let me explain why this is hard to set up on our phones. The Manufactuer Prudoced a ROM with a windows CE bootloader using thwe files NK.exe. for the boot process, for more info on this process google windows CE boot process. however the entire process is difrent in linux. In linux instead of having NK (CE loader) as part of the windows OS we have a seprate program called a bootloader, the two mos common ones are the LILO or LInux LOader and the GRUB or GRand Unified Boot loader niter of wich anyone knows how to get the HTC phone to recoginse without an external windows CE aplication. Running The Application Is The Abutal Process Of The Bootloader, The COnfigration file is simalar to the windows XP boot.ini. esentialy your copy of android is just another application.
To ths date no one has be able to figure out how to create a rom that can edit the factory bootloadre to male it use GRUB or LILO, however if you wanted to chose one or the other i'd develop it to run a mobile version of GRUB bcause then you can dual boot windows mobile as if you were on a PC .
hope this answered your questions as to why an android ROM isn't out there yet.
Honestly, if there was a version of android and chrome i would switch all my devices over to Google Linux right now, i'm tired of the microsoft way of computing, paying another $150 every two to five years.
in theory you can have both andriod and iphone
android is open source, you should be able to use it as a base foundation and skin it with an iphone interface
hello buddy
i just want ask if i can remove the WM 6.5 All of it
and i put the android os
without bot from wm to android
Hi.
No, you have to let WM 6.x to boot Haret.exe from your favorite file browser
WinningDays said:
Hi.
No, you have to let WM 6.x to boot Haret.exe from your favorite file browser
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u mean there is no chance to change the OS from the phone >> or for now ?
Booting Android/Linux on a WinMo device is close to try to run Mac OS on a PC.
It might be possible, but not now.
We have to hope that an Android ROM will come someday, but the developpers work hard to fix the main problems
WinningDays said:
Booting Android/Linux on a WinMo device is close to try to run Mac OS on a PC.
It might be possible, but not now.
We have to hope that an Android ROM will come someday, but the developpers work hard to fix the main problems
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ok thx we have to hope coz its nice MOS
i think i will buy nexus one
and sell BLAAKKK STONNE
Couldn't this have been asked in the existing Q&A thread????
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it is possible to run win ce / WM on desire?
No
Not that I'm aware of. You can't run Win Mob full stop.
Is it possible to dual boot with 2 different Custom MODS?? Like OpenDesire and Pays Rom for instance... Or a custom ROM and the official one that came with the phone..
hk5354 said:
it is possible to run win ce / WM on desire?
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This would be brilliant , they have android on the hd2, why can't we have winmo on the desire
+1 for a winmo 6,5 port
Would be great if you could multiboot, like with different sd cards.
But why would anyone want WinMo on the HTC Desire... Android for the win!
this is xda, this place has always been powered by "Because we can!", so don't ask such questions
Who in their right mind is going to put time and effort into porting a what is basically dead OS to the Desire ? Even Microsoft aren't bothering with WM anymore
Doesn't have to be 6.5...
But some WP7 features seem quite neat though.
I second this request! (if it is a request)
It's not possible since wm is not open source like android
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
back to the dual boot point, we can boot from a sd card so it is possible to dual boot 2 diff android roms
htc fan89 said:
It's not possible since wm is not open source like android
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You are right on that. But Microsoft provides bootroms to test their emulator. Using this rom for dualbooting would be legit I guess..?
Puenos said:
You are right on that. But Microsoft provides bootroms to test their emulator. Using this rom for dualbooting would be legit I guess..?
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I think you miss the point - whilst there is a legal aspect here, I think the main point is not the license associated with open source, but the source code itself.
As Android is open source, it can be compiled to different targets, and deep changes can be made to the source code to get everything working.
As WinMo is not open source, you do not have this luxury, and so the porting exercise would be much, much harder.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
I think you miss the point - whilst there is a legal aspect here, I think the main point is not the license associated with open source, but the source code itself.
As Android is open source, it can be compiled to different targets, and deep changes can be made to the source code to get everything working.
As WinMo is not open source, you do not have this luxury, and so the porting exercise would be much, much harder.
Regards,
Dave
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Well.. I didn't look at this closely enough.. but Microsoft also provides an emulator for testing their roms.. using this "microsoft device emulator"s sources would make it a bit easier I guess? Well.. you can click on "license" on the following link.. but I just get a "page not found".. so I don't know any details.. but here is the link I found:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...ED-6C95B261DDCD&displaylang=en&displaylang=en
I'm not a dev.. just did a bit research on this one and found their offical emulator.. besides that, there are also a few emulators for the WinMo environment.. some even written in Java I believe..
Again I don't know if they used some code from MS, or just wrote everything from scratch.. I don't really have enough knowledge here.. but I thought maybe I could share my thoughts and get some answers.. and maybe the information I found was a bit helpful?
Thanks anyway
Hy
At first im sorry for my bad englisch.
Back to multi boot of desire.
How we can implementing boot from sd-card and back.
How can i boot from sd-card?
What is with data.img, is it nessesary to build an other image or can i use the stock-rom to boot it from sd-card ( i think its unpossibele) ?
Is it right we need to patch hboot ?
is it possibel to load an other bootloader? (grub or somthing else)
I know many questions, but im faszinated of the idea "dual boot on my desire"
Greatings
meinbier
This would be a nice, becouse there is some apps that newer will be on android, and there is people that need this apps.
Dont tell me buy win mobile phone, becouse I get droid from my company. I m not programer, so I cant help on that way. I can only tell that i will donate some money to someone who make native winmobile app install / run on android via emulation or custom rom for desire.
Tnx for your time and i support this thread.
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im really interested in this as well ,i have just got a htc desire hd and would love to run both wp7 and android ,wp7 for xbox live is this any new info on this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UE-LVuudEk&feature=player_embedded
So its possible on the DHD!
Maybe on the old Desire too.
AFAIK the Desire's internal memory is not large enough for dual boot... I mean some ROMs have trouble fitting on the partitions now so what do you think would happen with 2 ROMs lol.. you'd have no space for apps... and if you did somehow manage to run a ROM from your SDCARD like you can with legendary devices like the touch pro where you run haret.exe from the phone which boots android - it would be very slow and impractical. So I doubt we will ever see this happen.
EDIT: Guess I was wrong! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182325
Isn't it possible with the Desire HD's specs to make a Windows 7 port? It's more than capable. But I've heard of issues with drivers but it was still ported to HD2? And before anyone asks why would I make my phone "worse" or whatever, I'd like to give it a go, it looks really nice
Also before anyone asks why don't I buy/why didn't I buy a Windows Phone, I'm 14, my parents wouldn't be too keen on buying me another phone.
EDIT: In the poll it should actually say: "Windows Phone 7 SHOULD be ported to the Desire HD, and you want it to happen."
Id love to see this happen. It's not impossible to achieve, but is very very complex, especially regarding drivers etc. I don't think we will see this any time soon.
lewispb said:
Id love to see this happen. It's not impossible to achieve, but is very very complex, especially regarding drivers etc. I don't think we will see this any time soon.
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How long did it take to port to the HD2?
I'd also love to see it happen. Maybe WP7 is worse than Android, but we can't be sure without us trying it out first. Also take in consideration that WP7 has been just released, maybe it's been out in the US for a longer time. But here in the Netherlands it doesn't even have a Dutch version nor a Market released.
Anyway, it's hard indeed, but not impossible. Especially not considering that the DHD is cracked open to the bone. I'm not expert but that would mean that it is possible in theory that the pro's can make it if they want.
I'm up for trying it, I love the style of WP7. Maybe not everything is as good as Android, but the same can be said for iOS vs Android. Everything has it's charms, WP7 has a great interface in my opinion. Android has a great mod-ability, making it possible for devs to make Android great, but the stock Android ain't nothing special. iOS has a great app-store, which makes it powerful, but other than that iOS has nothing special to offer us in comparisson to Android.
guys its got nothing to do with drivers ffs.. we have a lunux based device with a lunux based bootloader and a linux fs on the nand.. the hd2 has a windows based bootloader and a nand chip with a windows file system.... windows only does fat and ntfs, our nand uses the linux based ext file system...
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guys its got nothing to do with drivers ffs.. we have a lunux based device with a lunux based bootloader and a linux fs on the nand.. the hd2 has a windows based bootloader and a nand chip with a windows file system.... windows only does fat and ntfs, our nand uses the linux based ext file system...
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Couldn't you install a Windows based bootloader then?
kamranh3 said:
Couldn't you install a Windows based bootloader then?
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you could in theory yes, but what you propose is illegal (windows is closed source) and if all your after is the look and feel of WP7 try designing a theme and then i'm sure you could corrupt some systems files to reduce the stability of android
Hypothetically
I'm just wondering, - hypothetically of course - how would you go about changing the bootader to a windows based bootloader?
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I'm just wondering, - hypothetically of course - how would you go about changing the bootader to a windows based bootloader?
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I suspect, hypothetically or not, that there would be a lot of work involved in someone producing a windows Bootloader to flash instead of our normal android one, I don't see any devs putting in the work for free to allow installation of a pirated OS, you want WP7 buy a WP7 phone
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guys its got nothing to do with drivers ffs.. we have a lunux based device with a lunux based bootloader and a linux fs on the nand.. the hd2 has a windows based bootloader and a nand chip with a windows file system.... windows only does fat and ntfs, our nand uses the linux based ext file system...
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wait so then how does the HD2 do it? cause it is/was running windows 6.5 and now it has got WP7 (pirated) or android or both dual booting.