So I finally posted in the Q&A section last night because I messed up my SystemUI.apk while trying to theme it...
I asked a simple question asking if anyone could post the stock apk from the latest leak... and never got a response yet.
I no longer need it because I have flashed CM9 since it was what I had on my SD when I flashed today.
I now know why there are so many users that post questions in the general section of the forum. This is the most disappointing part of this community other than the people who like stirring up arguments in the community.
If there is anyone else who has had a similar experience or that thinks that this forum lacks in helpful information, post here to explain your story and how you feel the community should change.
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I understand completely what you are saying. I used to live in the Q&A section to try to help because there's not a lot of people that DO put in the effort and go out their way. I didn't get my "thanks" from being a mod, believe me, lol. I try to be laid back for that reason in the general section, but I can only allow so many questions before it gets overwhelming. I have seen a handful of members in this section that will see people through to get the help the asking members need. And I love that. Sometimes you have to give it a little more time, or a shameless bump is in order.
---Jay--- From the CM9 powered E4GT
Yeah, I could have given it a little bit more time but without a status bar I didn't want to wait...
I guess instead of complaining about it, I will take the initiative to contribute my experience with the E4GT to the community. I'm no developer but I will try to help as best as I can.
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Did you flash agats ics theme over the stock fe22? If thats the case he labeled them wrong and you have to flash deodexed instead of odexed theme. It was mentioned in the fe22 thread, happened to a few of us but you would really have to read everything to find it.
I look at q&a sometimes but I learned most of the stuff here from reading and most of the questions there are because people are too lazy to read. I typically just provide a link to a thread if I do answer any questions. Yours is valid though I flashed and downloaded the rom and that stupid theme 3 times thinking i had a bad flash checking md5 and stuff.
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Did you flash agats ics theme over the stock fe22? If thats the case he labeled them wrong and you have to flash deodexed instead of odexed theme. It was mentioned in the fe22 thread, happened to a few of us but you would really have to read everything to find it.
I look at q&a sometimes but I learned most of the stuff here from reading and most of the questions there are because people are too lazy to read. I typically just provide a link to a thread if I do answer any questions. Yours is valid though I flashed and downloaded the rom and that stupid theme 3 times thinking i had a bad flash checking md5 and stuff.
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I flashed the odexed theme... I also thought it was a bad flash. I usually read most of the thread and the comments.
I just didn't read enough to see that there was a problem flashing over stock.
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This time it was buried and as dumb as I felt flashing a theme that said deodexed over a stock rom it worked.
Mattix724 said:
So I finally posted in the Q&A section last night because I messed up my SystemUI.apk while trying to theme it...
I asked a simple question asking if anyone could post the stock apk from the latest leak... and never got a response yet.
I no longer need it because I have flashed CM9 since it was what I had on my SD when I flashed today.
I now know why there are so many users that post questions in the general section of the forum. This is the most disappointing part of this community other than the people who like stirring up arguments in the community.
If there is anyone else who has had a similar experience or that thinks that this forum lacks in helpful information, post here to explain your story and how you feel the community should change.
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Thats pretty demanding, seeing that you are asking for free help. You should wait longer, and if you cant, thats why its always suggested to NAND backup your stuff.
You must realize that we all have lives outside of this forum, I too try to help out as often as I can with what little knowledge I have. Its the only way I can give back but I also work full-time and go to college full-time. So there are a few days where I can't find the time to post or help out. I'm not by any means saying that this is the case for everyone here, just simply giving you an example that may or may not be the case for some of us here.
I can almost promise you, however, if you give it enough time, someone WILL come to your aid.
I just hope you realize this and don't think any less of these people here. They really do put a lot of time and effort into helping and developing for all of us in hopes of getting nothing more than a simple "thanks".
I also hope that your next experience is nothing like the previous one.
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Thats pretty demanding, seeing that you are asking for free help. You should wait longer, and if you cant, thats why its always suggested to NAND backup your stuff.
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I agree with the backup idea, but I'm not touching the backup restore functions on an ICS kernel until it has been fully tested and determined to be safe to use.
I thought I had backups of the SystemUI on my SD card but they were for earlier builds and would not work. I realize that everyone has their own life outside of XDA. That is why when I saw that my question didn't even have one reply when several other questions had new comments, I decided to just flash a new ROM.
The reason I have started this thread is because I am not the first user to be ignored when asking a simple question to ask if someone could help with such a simple issue.
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Mattix724 said:
So I finally posted in the Q&A section last night because I messed up my SystemUI.apk while trying to theme it...
I asked a simple question asking if anyone could post the stock apk from the latest leak... and never got a response yet.
I no longer need it because I have flashed CM9 since it was what I had on my SD when I flashed today.
I now know why there are so many users that post questions in the general section of the forum. This is the most disappointing part of this community other than the people who like stirring up arguments in the community.
If there is anyone else who has had a similar experience or that thinks that this forum lacks in helpful information, post here to explain your story and how you feel the community should change.
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Early on I used to answer every question I could but eventually most threads were answers before I even got there so slowly I stopped going to the q and a sec
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I live in the q&a section. Sorry I didn't see your post lol. I try and help out as much as I can
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I understand completely what you are saying. I used to live in the Q&A section to try to help because there's not a lot of people that DO put in the effort and go out their way. I didn't get my "thanks" from being a mod, believe me, lol. I try to be laid back for that reason in the general section, but I can only allow so many questions before it gets overwhelming. I have seen a handful of members in this section that will see people through to get the help the asking members need. And I love that. Sometimes you have to give it a little more time, or a shameless bump is in order.
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Restored a lot of faith for me...patience is a rare commodity. Thank you sir
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Personally, I believe the Q&A section is pretty much useless and have never used it to gather or inquire information. As long as one uses the Search function in the forums effectively, there's no need for it.
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Personally, I believe the Q&A section is pretty much useless and have never used it to gather or inquire information. As long as one uses the Search function in the forums effectively, there's no need for it.
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In theory, yea. But a lot of those answers you "searched" for are found in the Q&A section.
---Jay--- From the CM9 powered E4GT
I admit I don't frequent Q&A as much as I do General and Development, but if I see something I feel that I can answer then I always try to contribute. If it's something completely out of my league but I know someone who might know the answer then I will, occasionally, post that information.
While I understand OP's need for a quick resolution (although most questions in Q&A need the same) I agree with those who have advocated allowing a little more time for people to respond.
I know it can be frustrating (and intimidating) to be stuck on a problem with no answer but again, as stated in the posts above, sometimes people who can help simply aren't online at the time the problem is posted. Though I'm here a lot during the day (from work, shhhh) in the evenings my time is a bit more sporadic and I've come back to the computer with PMs from people who asked me something but thought I was ignoring them, that bothers me because I would never willingly ignore someone.
So I think Q&A definitely has its uses and maybe this post should be our tap on the shoulder to peruse it more often and see if there is something we can help answer.
To the OP.
Why didn't you just download one of the stock roms in the roms section and extract your own?
just curious.....
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To the OP.
Why didn't you just download one of the stock roms in the roms section and extract your own?
just curious.....
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When most roms here are 1 click executable files its not so easy to extract the apk...
And with most of the roms that are zipped, they are already themed...
I have resolved my own issue by flashing a new rom, that was not the point of this thread... the point I wanted to bring up with this thread is that it is apparent that 95% of the users here only frequent General and Development. If more users just checked Q&A once and a while to see if there is anyone needing help with something that they have already experienced, they could easily reply with what they did to resolve the issue.
Let's all stop pointing the blame and help to better the community... we all can help in one way or another.
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Does anyone have the link to access the 2.2 anfroid froyo for the epic? Thanks
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let me try and soften the blow, this is your first post? PLEASE for your own good read the rules and instructions and stickies before posting anything, its too late for that but these should get you started:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=861397
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=904787
http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=716&a=106
http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=716&a=81
http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=716&a=111
but this is a community of developers so its going to be expected that you know how to search. good luck!
Omg! Omg! Omg! Omg! Lol
Lol, tonight's forecast: cloudy with a 90% chance of ****storms.
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Hey ma! Look! I'm an idiot!
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Goodness I know people should search, but why be an ASS to a person just asking something. No wonder this forum is so childish.
because people are lazy. for the most part they just want it handed to them. (give a man a fish vs teach a man to fish thing)
thanks for the information....
I am really new to this comunity forums, so what type of donation should i send to help out ther group?
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Does anyone have the link to access the 2.2 anfroid froyo for the epic? Thanks
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There is no official Froyo for our Epics, however there are several roms running the Froyo leak a.k.a. DK28.
First of all. Are you rooted?
PLEASE NOTE Post this type of questions in General section of the forums. This section is for development purposes only.
BTW. You will get more answers in that section, General
Thanks
skeeterrock said:
thanks for the information....
I am really new to this comunity forums, so what type of donation should i send to help out ther group?
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You don't have to donate if you don't want. Just read read read read read and read. Then read some more. Play around a bit and don't be afraid to ask questions– just be sure to ask in General, or preferably the Q&A forum. If you get stuck, there are plenty of people who are more than willing to help, just make sure to try and help yourself first. Oh, and be sure to read.
Yes I am rooted, using Terminal Emulator Pro and Superuser
skeeterrock said:
Does anyone have the link to access the 2.2 anfroid froyo for the epic? Thanks
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You should be glad someone hear tried to help you out. As far as I'm concerned people like you should be banned for a day every time they post in the wrong section or ask a question that has obviously already been answered in another thread! Do yourself a favor and read the rules and use the search button! Yes I know you have been told this but it seems like you need it drilled in your head.
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Goodness I know people should search, but why be an ASS to a person just asking something. No wonder this forum is so childish.
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You obviously aren't a noob but it seems like you don't frequent these forums much because if you did you would understand how sick and tired we are of this bull****! None of the new members take the time to read the forum rules, wikis or even have the common sense to just search. So if your wondering why he gets flamed then there is your answer straight from my childish mouth!
Donate your time. Start in the sticky, move on to the search. There is a library in front of you if you only look.
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If you set on donating money you can donate it directly to xda itself to help keep this sure up and running
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smoothone said:
You should be glad someone hear tried to help you out. As far as I'm concerned people like you should be banned for a day every time they post in the wrong section or ask a question that has obviously already been answered in another thread! Do yourself a favor and read the rules and use the search button! Yes I know you have been told this but it seems like you need it drilled in your head.
You obviously aren't a noob but it seems like you don't frequent these forums much because if you did you would understand how sick and tired we are of this bull****! None of the new members take the time to read the forum rules, wikis or even have the common sense to just search. So if your wondering why he gets flamed then there is your answer straight from my childish mouth!
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so then lets make him feel like **** and he may never get on another forum , wow dude cmon.
for all we know this mighrt be his first time being on a forum , i dont know . i just see giving him a hard time the wrong way to do it. you could have said hey it may help if you search . instead of name calling belittling.
just my 2 cents
people dont understand a basic thing.. the info on the forums most of the times is outdated and no one will know for sure until they try it out ... and for a noob .. its really scary to go ahead and give a try without knowing for sure if its perfectly accurate wht s/he is doing.. for eg i came accross a forum to root android device by downgrading to 2.0 which i highly doubt if would even work now.
just my $0,02
A mod has had to delete a thread for maintainance and explicitly tell people not to post off topic only to have the same thing just continue one thread over in the racing build thread unless that is really 13 pages of useful information. Instead of telling to people to stay on topic and continue the trend I made this post.
Could everyone keep the dev threads to dev posts. If you have a bug make a logcat. If you want to say thanks start a single thanks thread in general, I am not sure if thats kosher but at least if the mods have a problem with such thanks thread they can just delete it without having to go through and look for actually useful posts.
Mods on this
reinbeau said:
There is a Thanks button, use it.
Do not post Woop! Or nice job! or anything else that has nothing else to do with Development or this thread will be closed. I am sick of clearing out blathering.
Development discussion only.
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Even the devs want you to stay on topic on their threads
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Thanks everyone. let's please keep this on topic so it does not get shutdown
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The mods could delete this thread if they dont think it helps
Bro, I have no idea what you said but I think I agree
we had to clean up a lot of useless comments in that topic which were nothing related to development at all
please keep all chatters in General
feel free to open a new topic for the specific ROM in question
but do not CLUTTER the Development topic with comments that provides no value in the development.
I feel for you guys, You post that people not to go off topic then people posting like you didnt just tell them not to go off topic.
The people even reading this post are the people who probably don't need to be told. It Sucks because the annoying posters are ruining it for those following the rules. The most I type in a dev thread is f5 sigh.
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degeneration said:
The people even reading this post are the people who probably don't need to be told. It Sucks because the annoying posters are ruining it for those following the rules. The most I type in a dev thread is f5 sigh.
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I think they should probably close the thread for a day or two which would force people to make a thread in general. The mod warnings seem to be immediately ignored
look at this gem which obviously belongs here
suaverc118 said:
Excuse me for my question but does that mean T-Mobile will send out the real ICS update soon?? My phone isn't rooted because I'm having problems with Odin opening. Thanks for the info.
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this is aside from all the variations of posts with know bugs followed by a thanks
It would just be easier for us to report the people who don't follow. People forget about the report button.
The same moderator has to clean one of the threads twice already. I wish all the Dev threads were cleaned up. There's a lot of garbage in a lot of them. People posting first, second, third.....downloading now, will report later. Or thanks! Your awesome.....there's a thank button for a reason.
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It would just be easier for us to report the people who don't follow. People forget about the report button.
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Its kinda hopeless right now because if you look at the threads. A mod will clean it up and put up a notice to stay on topic and literally minutes later it will go back to offtopic posts.
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Its kinda hopeless right now because if you look at the threads. A mod will clean it up and put up a notice to stay on topic and literally minutes later it will go back to offtopic posts.
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They keep doing it cuz no one reports the individuals. If they are never penalized for their behavior, then they will never correct it.
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Beefvvl said:
They keep doing it cuz no one reports the individuals. If they are never penalized for their behavior, then they will never correct it.
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People are reporting them and the mods are aware. Allgamer posted on this thread that they are aware of it. It just keeps coming from different posters.
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It would just be easier for us to report the people who don't follow. People forget about the report button.
The same moderator has to clean one of the threads twice already. I wish all the Dev threads were cleaned up. There's a lot of garbage in a lot of them. People posting first, second, third.....downloading now, will report later. Or thanks! Your awesome.....there's a thank button for a reason.
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Wait, what? How does that logic work?
It is easier for us to to go through and report each post so that a moderator is forced to look over each one and decide if it should be deleted or not than it would for people to act responsible for their own crap and just not post worthless stuff in a dev thread?
Sure it might be easier for me to just report each post instead of trying to educate anyone, but now because one person is doing whatever they please I have to report them AND a moderator has to take the time to go and delete it.
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Wait, what? How does that logic work?
It is easier for us to to go through and report each post so that a moderator is forced to look over each one and decide if it should be deleted or not than it would for people to act responsible for their own crap and just not post worthless stuff in a dev thread?
Sure it might be easier for me to just report each post instead of trying to educate anyone, but now because one person is doing whatever they please I have to report them AND a moderator has to take the time to go and delete it.
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Aside from the fact that people are reporting people, it just doesnt stop and keeps going faster than the 60 second between reports rule sometimes
Well, now the thread is closed. Those who made it happen by posting useless crap will probably not learn anything from it either. Sigh.
I have a quick question in regards to that RaverX thread that just closed:
For those of us that DO want to follow the rules and prefer to follow the progress of the ROM, where do we go from here? I know the ROM is on sourceforge, so I can at least see if there are updates.
Should this have just been a PM, or are there others that share this curiosity?
ICS is awesome, but a lot of n00bs I have never seen post a single comment around here started posting out of nowhere lol.
I'm going to do something productive rather than be annoyed by these n00bs. I suggest you guys do the same.
I came from the G2 forum and own a sensation also. There seem to be more inconsiderate people here than either of those forums. I for one am glad those threads got shut down.
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I have a quick question in regards to that RaverX thread that just closed:
For those of us that DO want to follow the rules and prefer to follow the progress of the ROM, where do we go from here? I know the ROM is on sourceforge, so I can at least see if there are updates.
Should this have just been a PM, or are there others that share this curiosity?
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it would be opened shortly, but should be closed for now until it is cleaned up or until raver updates the ROM. So don't think it's the end of the world.
Well this sucks.. guess were stuck.
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degeneration said:
Well, now the thread is closed. Those who made it happen by posting useless crap will probably not learn anything from it either. Sigh.
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suddenly people are going to post here about how they suddenly care after the fact. The whole point of this thread was to keep the ot posts down so that the threads are not closed.
dsp4774 said:
I have a quick question in regards to that RaverX thread that just closed:
For those of us that DO want to follow the rules and prefer to follow the progress of the ROM, where do we go from here? I know the ROM is on sourceforge, so I can at least see if there are updates.
Should this have just been a PM, or are there others that share this curiosity?
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its in ravers sourceforge so he can update the rom and still have the same link
Can someone please sticky this to all E4GT Forums. At least general, Q and A, and Dev sections. I am sure everyone is tired of seeing threads on Help how do I go back to stock gingerbread. I guess some people just don't get it, so please be as descriptive and simple as you can be in your sticky.
How to return to stock rooted Gingerbread EL29 the best way
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1433101
I guess maybe one for ICS as well.
How To return to stock rooted Ice Cream Sandwich FF18 the best way
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721229
Once again thanks to sfhub
Hopefully the stickies will catch someone's eyes.
Thanks
Bump maybe
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I have the welcome to et4g sticky in general, I'll edit it to add this info, for what its worth I'm pretty sure the people who start threads like this don't read stickies much less bother searching as I see posts all the time asking how to do things covered in various stickies, never hurts to try though...
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I kinda figured they didn't read the stickies either, your guide is great by the way I just think some people are not willing to absorb all your valuable information or take the time really its kind of sad.
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riggs170 said:
I kinda figured they didn't read the stickies either, your guide is great by the way I just think some people are not willing to absorb all your valuable information or take the time really its kind of sad.
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Thanks, I basically just tried to condense what was already out there in a noob friendly manner to save the people much smarter than me who do the actual development around here from being pestered by easy questions, I learned by reading and searching, not posting, hell I used this site for like 2 years before even registering, like the intro video used to say "you're not special, the question you have has already been answered,just search"... hah if you look at my profile you'll see that's the only thread I've ever actually started...
edit: edited my guide to reflect requested info, if there is anything else you guys think should be added just post or shoot me a pm or something ,id be happy to do it if it helps cut down on repeat questions around here
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cp320703 said:
Thanks, I basically just tried to condense what was already out there in a noob friendly manner to save the people much smarter than me who do the actual development around here from being pestered by easy questions, I learned by reading and searching, not posting, hell I used this site for like 2 years before even registering, like the intro video used to say "you're not special, the question you have has already been answered,just search"... hah if you look at my profile you'll see that's the only thread I've ever actually started...
edit: edited my guide to reflect requested info, if there is anything else you guys think should be added just post or shoot me a pm or something ,id be happy to do it if it helps cut down on repeat questions around here
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Just noticed this thread. OP, I'll look over everything tomorrow to see what the best course of action should be. Thank you for the input guys. Greatly appreciated.
---Jay--- From the GNex
To all xda-ers
Read read read and read again.....then search....and read some more holy crap people the CALL ECHO ON JELLYBEAN ROMS WILL BE PRESENT UNTIL WE GET AN OFFICIAL ROM FROM TMOBILE OR UNTIL SOMEONE FINDS A PERMNANET FIX FOR IT UNTIL THEN STOP ASKING ABOUT IT JEEZE... I don't know how many times I've seen this question but I've seen it one too many.
Theirs small things like make sure noise suppression is checked in your call settings or someone else stated that turning the volume down a bit fixes it. And or flashing another radio could cause a temp fix for it...but please read and or search before asking questions......
Number one rule here guys search before asking questions as your question may have been answered already and 95% of the time IT HAS!!!
Im done ranting now thanks for READING! And have a wonderful afternoon
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Cool story bro.
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I've never had a call echo complaint on AOKP JB, and have been running it for months.
I hope you feel really good about yourself, starting this thread all over such a small issue.
The irony of this post is that now when people search up "call echo" on the search bar now, this is the first thread out of several dozens of other threads that shows up and mentions this issue.
What's worst is that the post doesn't solve anything at all, lol. If it really bothered you, you could have simply provided links in your post to the particular threads where those who are actually looking will know where to search for prior answers.
In that way it will save you time and others... additionally, your rant wouldn't be another waste of space in these forums and instead actual be of some use to people... just a thought.
In the second paragraph I clearly stated the little things that people have found to temporarily fix the issue
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I hope you feel really good about yourself, starting this thread all over such a small issue.
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And its a small issue that every one keeps asking about Instead of searching or reading thru the forums I've seen it asked at least 10 times or more in multiple threads I myself don't have the issue and why even post in here saying This is a waste of space when your reply was also a waste considereing none of you posted anything to help with the issue either but clearly just posted to flame
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What kind of responses were you expecting from your post? Obviously since you emphasized greatly that people need to use the search bar more there is no need for us to add more to the minor information you already posted other than proper links... which then again contradicts using the search bar. As much as it is a nuisance, there are always going to be people on these forums who will ask old questions... don't let it be your problem, you're not obliged to answer the questions all the time. There are actually some bright people on the forums that enjoy the idea of helping someone (even if it's a common question), cheers!
Yeah I'm aware of that I've been trying to help people out all day myself
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Not all chip sets are equal and perform the same with custom kernels remember that.
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Y MY PHONE ECHO? SAMSUNG AND XDA Y U NO FIX??? ERMAGHEEEERD
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You guys can criticize this post all u want but he's right.. People suck..
Kind of like how Mohan asked people not to post in his Dev thread unless they have logs. And to use the embryo general thread instead yet people still fill his thread with the same few questions... It's crazy..
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...As much as it is a nuisance, there are always going to be people on these forums who will ask old questions... don't let it be your problem, you're not obliged to answer the questions all the time. There are actually some bright people on the forums that enjoy the idea of helping someone (even if it's a common question), cheers!
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^^^ This ^^^
I understand your wanting to rant and I feel your frustration (Believe me when I say this. You should see some of the stuff that comes our way). Like FT said above, there is always going to be someone that asks the same question over and over and over, sometimes the same question in multiple threads. These people will never learn. But they are becoming more and more predominate in the forums lately.
We have 4.8m users and anywhere from 36-50k users online at a time. That type of userbase is fantastically hard to comprehend when it comes to things like this. Few want to learn anymore and many just come here to make their phone/tablet cool looking and could care less about smali hacks, de/compiling apks (what apk means for that matter), Android.policy.jars,...
Best answer I could give you now is to simply ignore those posts and move on to the next relevant post. If you want to answer, then by all means. Users should help each other when possible. But that doesn't mean spoonfeeding either.
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I'll leave this thread open until 11am est if anyone else want to respond but after that it is getting Closed Closed Closed Closed Closed
He's absolutely right about the post but unfortunately it was a waste of time and effort because most of the people that ask the same questions over and over are never gonna take the time to read this
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rymanh said:
He's absolutely right about the post but unfortunately it was a waste of time and effort because most of the people that ask the same questions over and over are never gonna take the time to read this
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This is true and hilarious..
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Now that we have a stock Jelly Bean Rom...how close are we to things such as CM10.1 and AOKP?
Have you even looked through the forums!!! Stop asking about ETA'S!!!
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jbrooks58 said:
Now that we have a stock Jelly Bean Rom...how close are we to things such as CM10.1 and AOKP?
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From what I've been told we they are really close, but again they aren't going to put anything out that doesn't work fully so as for a real time frame, when everything works and they feel it's ready for mainstream consumption
Why don't you look in the dev forums. That's where it'll be posted
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jbrooks58 said:
Now that we have a stock Jelly Bean Rom...how close are we to things such as CM10.1 and AOKP?
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dude seriously?? wtf?? we've went over this with you before. theres 10 different threads about this... READ THEM. your making pointless threads and being lazy. please stop.
Mods please close this thread...
Enzopreme said:
dude seriously?? wtf?? we've went over this with you before. theres 10 different threads about this... READ THEM. your making pointless threads and being lazy. please stop.
Mods please close this thread...
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It's nice to know that you guys are hear to help. I posted this in the Q&A you know since it is a question. It seems that you have forgotten you were once new at this as well.
Ill try not to ask as many questions. Once again I'm sorry.
[READ] Stop asking about JB ROMs and anything related to JB updates..
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Ill try not to ask as many questions. Once again I'm sorry.
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questions aren't the problem we love to help and inform on anything we know. but asking for an eta when there are already tons of discussions on this and when there have already been multiple posts saying don't bug the devs, thats a problem
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questions aren't the problem we love to help and inform on anything we know. but asking for an eta when there are already tons of discussions on this and when there have already been multiple posts saying don't bug the devs, thats a problem
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I'm not bugging the devs...I was asking the community in general? Its just I came from the Nexus S which had well over 100 roms to the Optimus which only has 2. So I have just been confused why there aren't a few more for this device which is much better than my nexus. Im not even asking for ETA's mainly just if anyone knew about more roms being made. I probably should have worded it more clearly.
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I'm not bugging the devs...I was asking the community in general? Its just I came from the Nexus S which had well over 100 roms to the Optimus which only has 2. So I have just been confused why there aren't a few more for this device which is much better than my nexus. Im not even asking for ETA's mainly just if anyone knew about more roms being made. I probably should have worded it more clearly.
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jbrooks58. We don't mean to be harsh. You came from a nexus, a device that have open source to a device that is branded by LG running LG software. It takes time to develop for getting around minor hurtles may take weeks unlike on a nexus our dev community works hard and we now have a flashable JB zip. Things are in the works but there are a few things that still need fixed.
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jbrooks58. We don't mean to be harsh. You came from a nexus, a device that have open source to a device that is branded by LG running LG software. It takes time to develop for getting around minor hurtles may take weeks unlike on a nexus our dev community works hard and we now have a flashable JB zip. Things are in the works but there are a few things that still need fixed.
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Thank you for explaining! I didn't realize one was more open than another. I thought all Androids were open. I still have much to learn. Thanks for clarification.
jbrooks58 said:
Thank you for explaining! I didn't realize one was more open than another. I thought all Androids were open. I still have much to learn. Thanks for clarification.
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Hey man those listen to these morons it's not their fault that this is the only place in the world they're relevant.. Ask ur questions there will always be ppl that add to the problem and the clutter when one simple answer will finish the thread instead of being rude and keeping the thread at the top of the page by flooding it with off topic responses
Haha...
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Yerv Melkonian said:
Hey man those listen to these morons it's not their fault that this is the only place in the world they're relevant.. Ask ur questions there will always be ppl that add to the problem and the clutter when one simple answer will finish the thread instead of being rude and keeping the thread at the top of the page by flooding it with off topic responses
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I see both sides of this coin, since i kinda just went through the same thing. I understand that he was just asking a question, but on the other hand there are probably over 10 discussions with the answer he is looking for.
But on the other hand, you are newer than me even, so welcome to the community, try to read and search before asking questions, and try not to double post either, just edit your last post if no one has replied.
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Hey man those listen to these morons it's not their fault that this is the only place in the world they're relevant.. Ask ur questions there will always be ppl that add to the problem and the clutter when one simple answer will finish the thread instead of being rude and keeping the thread at the top of the page by flooding it with off topic responses
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The name calling is uncalled for, especially when you're taking advantage of the work that these people are putting in. This community has enough negativity as it is, and we certainly don't need any more.
Egos aside we're all on the same team here. Either appreciate the work or give constructive advice/suggestions. Enough of the insulting.
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Also, alot of the reason we only have 2 roms was because we were stuck on ICS. Not many people want to develop on an older OS, expecially when we knew there was an update right around the corner. So it was the waiting game. Now that JB has been released, and the source code has been dropped, this place will start lighting up. This is one of the best phones out right now, and it will start getting attention. So for now, research, read, contribute what you can, and enjoy the ride.
In all honesty none of those thread touch on how close we are to being AOSP, so his question is relevant. In every thread you get the same answer, either "we have already answered that question", "when it is fully ready to go", "were still testing things so it's going to be a few more weeks". I want to make it clear that I'm not complaining, And am very happy with what you guys are doing, but if we had a little better information about what is going on and what the problems are maybe people would stop posting so much.
If you want to know anything about ROM's/AOSP, go to the IRC. They constantly are talking about it on there.
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If you want to know anything about ROM's/AOSP, go to the IRC. They constantly are talking about it on there.
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Do that, or msg me at [email protected]. I have most of the Debs contact info, and I usually stay up to date.
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