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Software buttons annoyance!

Sent quite a few text messages and emails today and closed both the applications a few times in error as the homepage button is right under the space bar and very sensitive!
I suppose I will get use to it however with time.
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This is what I fear the most when I first heard about the software button. Hopefully my fingers will get used to it.

It's not too different from having a capacitive button right below the screen. Just need to type a little slower I'd say

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTMpctKxY3E&sns=em
He agrees with you.

Type in landscape mode
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_hyperdude said:
It's not too different from having a capacitive button right below the screen. Just need to type a little slower I'd say
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Yeah, I'd say having software buttons and having capacitive buttons are both equally bad for this reason. This is why I prefer real physical buttons.

Tjotte said:
Type in landscape mode
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YT guy also agrees with you. Win. Win.

Try a keyboard on which you can set the height of the bottom row. Thumb keyboard for example or smart keyboard. Btw as the developer of thumb keyboard I plan to add an option to add extra space under the bottom row of the keyboard so it floats a bit above the keys.

They just need to make the softbuttons hide when the keyboard is open. Not hide completely but minimize so it would require 2 taps. One to maximize the buttons and one tap to go. Or shuffle them around. Or add a forth softbutton (search?) So the alignment isn't directly below it.
It happens even on my G2x. I think its just growing pains when moving into a larger screen. Going from a Nexus One to a G2x (3.7" to 4") messed up my typing until I got used to it.
G2x - 2.3.7 CM7
Transformer - 3.2 Revolver OC/UV

player911 said:
They just need to make the softbuttons hide when the keyboard is open. Not hide completely but minimize so it would require 2 taps. One to maximize the buttons and one tap to go. Or shuffle them around. Or add a forth softbutton (search?) So the alignment isn't directly below it.
It happens even on my G2x. I think its just growing pains when moving into a larger screen. Going from a Nexus One to a G2x (3.7" to 4") messed up my typing until I got used to it.
G2x - 2.3.7 CM7
Transformer - 3.2 Revolver OC/UV
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I think Google just needs to figure out that having a virtual home button is a really ****ing dumb idea. Apple figured this out with the iPhone 1. Why the **** can't Google get a clue already?

Chirality said:
I think Google just needs to figure out that having a virtual home button is a really ****ing dumb idea. Apple figured this out with the iPhone 1. Why the **** can't Google get a clue already?
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Take a pill and chill on the language.

appelflap said:
Try a keyboard on which you can set the height of the bottom row. Thumb keyboard for example or smart keyboard. Btw as the developer of thumb keyboard I plan to add an option to add extra space under the bottom row of the keyboard so it floats a bit above the keys.
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You're the fellow behind Thumb Keyboard? I love TB Keyboard! I've emailed you a few times about custom auto-corrections. Please implement them soon! It's the only one single thing missing from TB Keyboard.
Edit: And yes, I can vouch. Thumb keyboard is excellent and allows you to adjust the space bar line.

onthecouchagain said:
You're the fellow behind Thumb Keyboard? I love TB Keyboard! I've emailed you a few times about custom auto-corrections. Please implement them soon! It's the only one single thing missing from TB Keyboard.
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I'm working on a update in which I want to include the new spellchecking options offered by Ice cream sandwich. When working on it I also want to look at some options to customize the suggestion model. For now I'm planning to add the new ICS suggestion model as an option. For me it isn't as useful as the current suggestion model used, but I'm sure for others it will fit their typing style better.

Chirality said:
I think Google just needs to figure out that having a virtual home button is a really ****ing dumb idea. Apple figured this out with the iPhone 1. Why the **** can't Google get a clue already?
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Settle it down a little bit man...

appelflap said:
I'm working on a update in which I want to include the new spellchecking options offered by Ice cream sandwich. When working on it I also want to look at some options to customize the suggestion model. For now I'm planning to add the new ICS suggestion model as an option. For me it isn't as useful as the current suggestion model used, but I'm sure for others it will fit their typing style better.
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That sounds terrific.
Will custom auto corrections be in an update after that? I think since everyone types a little differently and thus makes their own mistakes, custom auto corrections will go a long way in helping everyone's typing. For example, I know I constantly hit "km" instead of "I'm". It'd be great if I could set up a custom correction where every single "km" typed will correct to "I'm."

landscape ftw tbh

Chirality said:
I think Google just needs to figure out that having a virtual home button is a really ****ing dumb idea. Apple figured this out with the iPhone 1. Why the **** can't Google get a clue already?
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Virtual buttons are awesome. They just need tweaks. Perhaps just reordered. Or perhaps make the icons further down on the screen and make the hit area smaller while the keyboard is up. There are lots of solutions.
Just needs tweaked.
G2x - 2.3.7 CM7
Transformer - 3.2 Revolver OC/UV

player911 said:
Virtual buttons are awesome. They just need tweaks. Perhaps just reordered. Or perhaps make the icons further down on the screen and make the hit area smaller while the keyboard is up. There are lots of solutions.
Just needs tweaked.
G2x - 2.3.7 CM7
Transformer - 3.2 Revolver OC/UV
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What's good about virtual buttons?

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What's good about virtual buttons?
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They are virtual? (I had to guys.)
For starters? No physical buttons = bigger screens for the same real estate since you don't have to have the space for actual physical buttons and as an added bonus less complexity and chance of something physical breaking or going wrong in the device since it's all screen. You could argue that costs come down do to less hardware and time to actually make a device that's all screen. I'd also say if you wanted to add something down the line with the virtual buttons it's easy: software tweak.

You can do a lot more with software than you can with hardware.

ICS 4.0 & All the Little Things! [undocumented features]

Just wondering for those of you who have the device already, have you guys found some neat features/tricks using 4.0 that haven't been documented or heavily advertised?
I would love to make a list of these features for other users to explore...
Lets get this started
List:

Reserved........

I know it's documented,but it was still a surprise to me - you can now finally delete apps straight from the app drawer, by dragging them just as if you were going to place them on the desktop,but then putting them in the recycle bin on the top.

No affiliation with apple. Or siri.
Sent from my samsung gt i9250 which is in the wrong country.

Nobody's talking about the search app. It's way better than the one in Gingerbread. Much easier to find stuff in your phone : music, app, sms, docs, etc. The old one was returning web search suggestion in 90% of the result... useless.
Search in browser let's you edit suggestion if you want to add something to it. But we lost popular web site suggestion

Just read it on Pocketnow but you can make folders in the favourites bar. Apologies if obvious.

When in the stock browser and you change orientation, tap the screen to make it rotate.

gambiting said:
I know it's documented,but it was still a surprise to me - you can now finally delete apps straight from the app drawer, by dragging them just as if you were going to place them on the desktop,but then putting them in the recycle bin on the top.
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You can do that on stock fascinate.
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mkropf said:
You can do that on stock fascinate.
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which runs TouchWiz, so it's not stock Android

Rotate the phone to the right whilst in any stock app (so the speaker grill and front camera are on the right). Notice that the back, home and task switch buttons have moved to the top of the screen so that they stay on the right.

When using an ics app hold down on an icon in the action bar to get a description of what it does
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Not heavily advertised, but it should be:
The quick control in the browser. Almost the same as on honeycomb. Activate it in the labs settings of the browser. Love it!

appelflap said:
Not heavily advertised, but it should be:
The quick control in the browser. Almost the same as on honeycomb. Activate it in the labs settings of the browser. Love it!
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NICE find! Thanks!

This is known about, however you said undocumented and I haven't a single document for the Nexus/ICS apart from on one which came with the phone,telling me how to fix the battery.
Hold the volume down and power key, and you take a screen capture. Which is very handy on occasions
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If you tap the volume button which makes the volume bar appear, you can then press the icon to the left of the volume bar and it toggles between ring and vibrate.
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In settings/about phone. Tap repeatedly on the android version number (4.0...) then a little android appears. Keep ur finger on it and it grows into a screen animation.
If u didn't know about this,I guess u r now thinking this is a joke. Or is it?

Need someone to test; try swiping the web pages up/down using 2 fingers
, is it a feature or a glitch?

Stea1thmode said:
Need someone to test; try swiping the web pages up/down using 2 fingers
, is it a feature or a glitch?
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what's supposed to happen?

You can use the front facing camera to record in 720p hd

NexusDro said:
what's supposed to happen?
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I thought it scrolled page by page. try by flicking with 2 fingers.

suggestion to developers

I have been using ics for a month. The design is generally great. but there is just one thing that piss me off. ....the soft button. They just take up too mich space!
i dont know if it is possible. Can you make the soft buttons stay on the screen buttakeup no space? i tried lmt launcher. its quite good, butits tired to hold the screenand slide to the keys that we are supposed to be able to press directly. I tried the key savior as well. the little arrow is indeed quite good! can some developer make "3little arrows that stay on the screen" to replace the soft buttons on ics?

i have my buttons transparent so it looks full screen but they are still there.

Under "GALAXY NEXUS THEMES & APPS" there is a thread about removing then and only having them pop up upon a certain gesture our action allowing you to have the full 720x1280 screen.
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how? thx... thats good!

RogerPodacter said:
i have my buttons transparent so it looks full screen but they are still there.
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thats great... can u tell me how?

Smokeey said:
Under "GALAXY NEXUS THEMES & APPS" there is a thread about removing then and only having them pop up upon a certain gesture our action allowing you to have the full 720x1280 screen.
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the gesture is wt i dun like...

I would love to see the buttons incorporated into the top bar like CM7 for the Kindle Fire. This way your buttons are always there and take up no space at all. No swiping or gestures needed...

iamrockrock said:
thats great... can u tell me how?
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Search "transparent" in themes section. I got it from that thread.

I don't like this trend...

... of apps ignoring the menu key.
I've always preferred the menu - home - back layout Samsung has stuck with. It just feels more natural to me... Now though I'm starting to think the new Android design guidelines are going to pose a big usability problem.
Especially on big phones like the GS3, having to reach to the top of the phone to get at common options is an annoyance at best. Mint is one of the latest apps to implement the new design guidelines that renders the menu button useless.
I hope the development community can come up with a workaround - if they haven't already. Anyone know of efforts to remap or otherwise keep the menu button useful?

Its not really the dev community that controls the design guidelines.. as you know google updates them with each iteration of Android. The problem here is, starting from the Galaxy Nexus, none of Google's phones have come with a menu button. Google believes this is better (for some reason) and so all the design guidelines are trending towards making the menu button obsolete.
Samsung on the other hand is slowly becoming the only manufacturer to persist with the menu button.
From a development perspective, its easy enough to support devices with/without a menu button, with the same piece of code. I feel the main reason big Android apps are moving to the Holo bar menu button is for uniformity like in iOS (which is what Google wants in the first place)

There are roms that let you easily re-assign the menu button. For example, I have menu bound to recent apps (android standard is back, home, recent apps) with long press recent apps as menu for those few cases where apps still use the menu button.
As much as you may like the menu button it is more than on its way out at this point. Despite what samsung has been building their phones with.
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50% of the reason I like a physical home button is because for me, it's easier to power up the phone...and more natural, less effort etc. I also go into standby by an upward gesture on my homescreen so on/off is very quick and handy.
The other half is that I have more screen real estate.

pngface said:
Its not really the dev community that controls the design guidelines.. as you know google updates them with each iteration of Android. The problem here is, starting from the Galaxy Nexus, none of Google's phones have come with a menu button. Google believes this is better (for some reason) and so all the design guidelines are trending towards making the menu button obsolete.
Samsung on the other hand is slowly becoming the only manufacturer to persist with the menu button.
From a development perspective, its easy enough to support devices with/without a menu button, with the same piece of code. I feel the main reason big Android apps are moving to the Holo bar menu button is for uniformity like in iOS (which is what Google wants in the first place)
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Uniformity is huge, have you seen that picture with the buttons of around 10 android popular phones in which none of them have the same buttons/order.
Also, as an ex-galaxy nexus user, I must say that on-screen buttons are FAR better than what we have. The only down side is lost screen space in most apps (some stuff does go full screen). But the customizability of the software buttons is SO NICE. you can change the size of the bar, the colour, what buttons are there, what the icons are. The slide for google now is much more intuitive that long pressing menu. XDA devs have even added the ability to add what ever you want to the google now slide up gesture. (including widgets).
The software bar is simply a modder's wet dream

Sure uniformity is cool, but what's more uniform than a menu key that's just there all the time? I don't even have to think about it; I want settings/options, I press the menu key. This has honestly been one of my favorite design elements of Android. I hate that this is being phased out.
Ah well, nothing I can do about it.

themadproducer said:
50% of the reason I like a physical home button is because for me, it's easier to power up the phone...and more natural, less effort etc. I also go into standby by an upward gesture on my homescreen so on/off is very quick and handy.
The other half is that I have more screen real estate.
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How do you have it set up to sleep with a screen gesture?
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yamahakid said:
How do you have it set up to sleep with a screen gesture?
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It's 2 parts...but super simple and turbo quick!
I use Go Launcher EX. Many of the custom launchers have Gesture ability. (unlike stock TouchWiz) There are 2 types of gestures in GLex. The one I use is an upward gesture anywhere on any home screen. (you could choose an icon in the dock as well) and it's not the Gesture Pad feature. For me, this works well as I never find myself swiping upwards on the home screen except to initiate SCREEN OFF....although I have requested them to add a 2 finger swipe for extra control.
The 2nd part is an app called "screen off and lock" which I have been using for years. I tell GLex to execute SOAL with an upward gesture on the home screen. Works flawlessly. (GLex has it's own plugin for screen off...but it is laggy)
SOAL also has CRT similar fx and other options. But I just use the clean screen off effect and it's INSTANT. I literally can turn on my S3 with my physical home button, swipe to unlock. then swipe up to lock/screen off in under a second...and keep repeating...no lag. (that's not what I use it for per-say...but just to show that it is fast...all with my thumb in a close proximity area.)

Just got it all set up and I'm loving it so far. Thanks a lot
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yamahakid said:
Just got it all set up and I'm loving it so far. Thanks a lot
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Right on, glad you tried it out.
To me, little things like this make the experience so much better.
Are you using GLex?

themadproducer said:
Right on, glad you tried it out.
To me, little things like this make the experience so much better.
Are you using GLex?
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No I have an s3, but I flashed a fix that changed my build.prop to gnex so I can run Google wallet.
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yamahakid said:
No I have an s3, but I flashed a fix that changed my build.prop to gnex so I can run Google wallet.
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Ha Ha...no...actually I meant Go Launcher EX? (GLex)
What launcher do you use to perform the swipe?

themadproducer said:
Ha Ha...no...actually I meant Go Launcher EX? (GLex)
What launcher do you use to perform the swipe?
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Haha oh I thought you made a typo. I'm using apex launcher.
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radeon_x said:
... of apps ignoring the menu key.
I've always preferred the menu - home - back layout Samsung has stuck with. It just feels more natural to me... Now though I'm starting to think the new Android design guidelines are going to pose a big usability problem.
Especially on big phones like the GS3, having to reach to the top of the phone to get at common options is an annoyance at best. Mint is one of the latest apps to implement the new design guidelines that renders the menu button useless.
I hope the development community can come up with a workaround - if they haven't already. Anyone know of efforts to remap or otherwise keep the menu button useful?
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Video about some of my likes and dislikes about the GS3 overall its the best smartphone I have ever owned .

That's one thing that annoys me about the Android OS not being unified... some apps will ignore the menu, some wont.

Kernel selection help please

I never thought such a simple thing would bug me so much but not having a dedicated menu button on my HTC One is driving me up the wall. I'm running CM10.2, and I know I can convert the home key single or double tab function into a menu button but I would prefer the logo to be my menu key as I haven't been able to train myself to accept the home key mods.
That being said all of the kernels I look at say they will work on sense roms or google play edition roms. I can't seem to find anything that specifically says it will work with Cyanogenmod. If someone could point me in the right direction I would greatly appreciate it.
Thank you.

I believe the AOSP edition of Lunar kernel will work, at least there was a comment of someone using it. Make a nandroid and give it a shot http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2594677

Crawshayi said:
I believe the AOSP edition of Lunar kernel will work, at least there was a comment of someone using it. Make a nandroid and give it a shot http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2594677
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Thanks, I gave that a shot and it froze my phone within 10 minutes of use. I'll have to keep an eye on it.

Elite Lunar AOSP is for kitkat not jellybean. We do not have a kernel for that version of AOSP...but there might be one floating around the international forum.

Are you talking about the 3 dots menu icon? If so I had this issue for a while too. If I remember correctly you can change it in settings. I think it's in Settings >Hardware. I'm no longer using CM so i'm not 100% sure.
If you're talking about something else, I apologize.

Think he is talking about the menu button that's just above the HTC logo.
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There's no menu button
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Some kernels map the htc logo to act as a menu button.

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Some kernels map the htc logo to act as a menu button.
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Yeah the have the option. Any of the AOSP kernels should work on CM.
Just so you know the HTC logo as menu is very close to the edge of the screen. When I tried to hit the space bar many times I would get a menu button press.