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First day on vacation an I drop my Desire

"Luckily" only the camera doesn't work anymore, I get a black screen when the camera app is started everything else seems fine.
Will have to count in HTC's excellent customer service again when I get home, my 3rd HTC, I dropped each one they got fixed for free let's see what happens with this one...
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Are you honest when you send them for repair? Or is it a case of "this just stopped working Mr HTC!"?
Be useful to know when I suffer butterfingers...

How high did you drop it from?!
ive dropped mine twice now, once was from only my hand when i was pissed, and the second as i came out of my house and it flew out of its pouch and flipped along the drive it some speed, and it still works perfectly albeit with some nasty dints in the casing.

Dropped mine tonight on bedroom floor from about 5 feet and all is fine
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6 feet drop onto smooth concrete... one pokemark on one corner and a line on one side.
still works great~
haha

I'm completely honest, with my Touch HD I dropped it in the shower, they first said it would be €75 but when I got it back there was a €0 invoice with it.
I dropped my desire from my hand, I dropped it before on wood floors but this was on the pavement, I'm gonna ask for a replacement backside too as the camera lens is all scratched up.
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Just got back and contacted HTC, they're picking up the phone tomorrow.
In the mean time I upgraded to FroYo (really liking it), also did a hard reset and the camera started working again but the flash is still kaput (even through the adb shell) I also asked for a new back cover as the lens is scratched.
Will post an update when my precious is fixed

dropped mine last week when driving at ~35km/h on my bike. it fell on its screen, skidded 10 metres on asphalt...and still everything works. it now has some heavy scratches on the casing though. luckily i had a screen protection applied, so the screen is still looking flawless.
built like a tank

HugoTouchHD said:
Just got back and contacted HTC, they're picking up the phone tomorrow.
In the mean time I upgraded to FroYo (really liking it), also did a hard reset and the camera started working again but the flash is still kaput (even through the adb shell) I also asked for a new back cover as the lens is scratched.
Will post an update when my precious is fixed
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How do you go about contacting HTC? Phone or email? Do you just say, I dropped my phone and x isn't working?
How long do they take to get back to you?

porsch1909 said:
How do you go about contacting HTC? Phone or email? Do you just say, I dropped my phone and x isn't working?
How long do they take to get back to you?
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I called them, just selected the language and had to stay on hold for about 2min (without music ) before speaking to someone:
http://www.htc.com/www/CA_Hotline.aspx
And yes, just told them I dropped it and the flash is not working, the guy asked if I tried resetting and then started a repair ticket. Via my phone number he saw that I had called before and verified my address etc.
I have now received a confirmation from the courier of the address and pickup time tomorrow and a form from HTC to add to the package.
The guy said the damage was not covered by warranty (duh) but that's what they said last time too, I (my company ) doesn't mind paying.

HugoTouchHD said:
I'm completely honest, with my Touch HD I dropped it in the shower,
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LOL. you had your phone in the shower?

mcgon1979 said:
LOL. you had your phone in the shower?
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it's fun to watch youtube clips, listen to music, etc. but those car windscreen holders don't work well on wall tiles

lmao the things we do to keep our phone in view 24/7
luckily i haven't dropped my phone. my heart broke every time i dropped my G1 ><
Nice and still flawless... Loving my Desire

I may have been wrong in my opinion of HTC service, I was lucky a few times but ...
This time the pickup went wrong, the driver came 2 hours before the arranged time (he said he waited 1 hour and thought that would make it right or something, if he waited 2 hours I'd have been there!)
So that delayed things.
The day after pickup I noticed HTC's repair tracker displayed "repair complete" which seemed strange, a call to HTC was very confusing, due to a mixup my original ticket was closed, a new one was opened but I could not get it or check it, I would be getting an email with updates ...
After a few days I contacted them again and was told to contact the repair centre, they gave me a number I could check and when I saw that it had nothing about the flash or camera not working only that the housing was damaged!!! Strange 'cause I never said anything about the housing.
When I called back they didn't know anything about the camera but a price for changing the casing was on it's way VIA POST, huh? they apparently did not have my email (very bad communication for an information tech company!) but after giving my email they said they would make a new offer to fix the camera/flash and send it by email.
And that is where I am at now, did not get the email yet and more than a week has passed already, I'm using my Touch HD again, I now know why I didn't miss WiMo ...

Interesting update. I guess they would have to run some sort of a basic diagnostic test on all phones in for repair. Evebn if the repair was just a cosmetic fix like a new glass or something. Hopefully it will be fine. Let us know when you get it back and how much if any it costs and if the fix was good.
Cheers!

You didn't put any protection for your Desire?

titus1 said:
You didn't put any protection for your Desire?
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No, I used to but screen protectors and cases always bug me, I change phones often enough not to need them

After a few more exchanges to get the repair of the camera/flash approved (by mail and paper post) it was finally sent back to me last Friday, obviously I was not notified of a deliver today and the need to pay the repair in cash (€130) so that delivery did not take place.
The courier service apparently can only give "between 9am and 6pm" delivery time so I'll probably get my phone back on Friday, exactly 3 weeks and 2 days since it was picked up for a repair that took less than 3 hours:
Repair at repair center - Started 18-8-2010 13:39:45
Repair at repair center - Finished 18-8-2010 16:15:53
All this is not HTC's fault obviously they only make the arrangements for pickup and repair by the respective companies.
The repair was done by Dynafix and pickup and delivery is done by Dynalogics, 2 companies that are part of the same group but do not communicate well with each other.
But HTC does choose the companies that can do their repairs and I think they should take a closer look at their partners.
To their credit HTC did personally contact me because I indicated a "Very Dissatisfied" on their customer survey and assured me they'd look into my case.

Phew finally got my Desire back, time to start forgetting this sordid episode.
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I dropped mine from the night table to the carpet, bumped the table while I was asleep and the next day I had a chipped on the top left corner. I email HTC and complained about how easily mine got chipped and scratched. This is what they said.
Dear ****,
Dear Mr. ****, Thank you for contacting our Customer Support Center. With regards to your inquiry, please note that your device HTC Desire was made from the finest materials, and no device can be scratched without external effects. you may dropped your device. however you can visit the nearest service center to check the device for you. We invite you to visit the support area at our Web site. Please go to: http://www.htc.com/www/support.aspx Or you can go to: http://www.htc.com/mea-en/selectcountry.aspx Select your country and then click on the Support tab. Thank you once again for your continued patronage. Best regards, Ahmed El-Nouby HTC MEA Technical Support Team
To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number 10SACW33ENA000032.
Sincerely,
Ahmed
And you know where's the nearest HTC Care Center? It's on the next state! So they are useless and just keep giving some BS about high quality material.

Outrageous Story of HTCdev Bootloader Unlocking in Hong Kong and Requiring a Repair

Hey everyone.
So basically, I live in Hong Kong, and there is an official HTC support center.
So I bought an HTC One X from my carrier, and then after a few days, I noticed I had a yellow spot, but before I detected this problem, I already went on HTCdev and unlocked my bootloader. So I called up HTC HK and talked to a guy, he insisted that I am able to fix it for free. Now, don't ask me why my carrier didn't take it in, they said I must bring it to HTC support center in Yau Ma Tei because it was beyond the 7 day in-store exchange warranty.
I sent my phone in the first time because of the screen issue, and it took about a week. They called me and said, that they are unable to replace the entire device because I unlocked the bootloader, telling me it will cost HKD 1800, and I said, NO! I sent it in because of the screen and not the motherboard! They replaced my phone's screen only, and not the entire device. So when I got my phone back, I had the exact motherboard which said "RELOCKED" and my Serial number matched up with my old one. So they had their hands digging through my 12 day old phone. I checked my phone for other defects, and wouldn't you know it, I found out ANOTHER problem on my screen, yellow spots appeared somewhere else as well as either a dead pixel was located in the middle of the screen, or a speck of dust, I'm not sure. So I yelled at them, and they took it back in.
The second time I sent it in, as I said before, was because of the unidentified dot in the middle of the screen AND the relocated yellow tint on the screen. As they stated before, they said they can't replace the entire device due to the unlocking of the bootloader, so they replaced the screen again. I was told to check the phone, and I found hairline cracks all over the phone. I WAS ABSOLUTELY FURIOUS. All those cracks were due to the repair and poor service, **** SERVICE REPAIR. Okay, I calmed down, I sent it back in, and they said they will replace the housing for me. I was infuriated at the fact that after I told them to repair it for me again, they told me that they will now ask a "Senior Technician" to look over this case, in my head I thought "WHAT THE ****, did you ****ing ask a "Junior technician" to fix this HKD5198 phone?" But I let it all slide, and I got it repaired again.
So yes, the last repair was because the casing was cracked. I took it back in, and was extremely dissatisfied with their repair service. So after listening to all the bull**** they told me AGAIN (voided warranty due to bootloader unlock), I verified my entire phone and checked everything, to make sure everything worked and looked good. I left the place with a fully functioning phone with no yellow spots and unidentified black spots on the screen.
I left the HTC support center, which is a 30 minute ride from my home area (Mid-Levels), and went to my service provider (one2free), I requested to see the senior manager of the company, waited for 15 minutes, and then when I saw him, we requested to speak in a private level of the shop. All staff were forced out of the level, and we started yelling at him. After 45 minutes of constant replies saying "We can't replace your phone directly because firstly, your phone is over the 7 day in-store exchange warranty, and secondly, we need to ask HTC for permission first". At this time, it was around 10pm, and he finally gave in because he was a nice person and we were one of the extreme-VIPs with over 10 unlimited contracts per month (HKD 500/number = HKD5000 a month). After a while, he finally decided to change my phone to the Samsung Galaxy S II LTE phone, which I used for one week. I rooted that phone, and when I restarted CWM recovery, the softkeys broke, even after stock software restore, it was still broken, so they exchanged it for a new phone.
I missed my beloved HTC One X because of the speed and elegancy, so I decided to head over to 3 HK (Hutchison Telecom HK) and my friend took my Samsung Galaxy S II, then helped me get a brand new second batch HTC One X under his number and I was so happy. Flawless to the perfect detail.
That was my story. You guys have any stories on your warranties and HTCdev unlocks? Post below!

That's one hell of a story xD. Good to hear it all turned out well even though you had to go through all that ****. I want to root my phone but because of these stories I don't want to unlock the bootloader...
I have a small yellow dot on the left side of the screen. It's almost not visible only if you look closely on a white background. It doesn't bother me and I could've gotten worse problems so yeah I decided to be happy with this model.

The first post in this thread started on May 2 warned everyone that HTC's no longer providing warranty repairs if they detect a device has had third party s/w loaded on to it. You can unlock the bootloader and still get work done under warranty but you can't load non-official ROMs. There are at least three different threads discussing this and one provides a link to spam HTC's blog in the UK voicing disapproval of the new policy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631466

Lol @ you yelling at them
And then taking the manager into a level and kicking the staff out to YELL at the manager aswel lol nice problem solving
They were a crap service and didn't help you much but after you kicking staff out of a level to yell at the manager
Don't expect the manager to help you out much even if you are "VIP" and you go off at the manager hes going to think your an arse and just find the fastest way to get rid of you
I used to work for a service provider in back end and the staff from front desk would always come out to the back and the first thing they'd say is "some prick just went off at me" and if its something that particular staff member didn't do and it was another staff members fault your name and "your a prick gets passed" around the office and nobody will want to help
The best way, is just let whoever your speaking to, know that youre not happy with the service your getting and that you're not actually angry at THAT person your speaking to
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Sounds like the device was fixed under warranty. His complaints are that he had to travel 30 minutes and ask more than once for repair.
He wanted a replacement device after voiding the warranty, but didn't want to pay for it, so they replaced the screen under warranty (twice?). And then the casing.
You can't please everybody.

I had a screen problem too but not a yellow spot. If i change the brightness to full and use a black wallpaper you can see a blue spot in the middle of the screen. This is my second HOX after i returned the first one through my carrier in australia because of screen flex and cracking and it took 2 weeks.
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how typical hk person OP is. (I am from HK as well, we are also known as the complain society)
voiding the warranty with htcdev before getting a replacement phone.
doesn't want to pay for repair even though the warranty is voided.
screaming and yelling...
A VIP expecting best services because his is an expensive phone (they use the more experienced to fix more complicated issues, not based on the phone price)
and then break yet another phone lol
Can't say I feel sorry about what happened to you :S

BarryH_GEG said:
The first post in this thread started on May 2 warned everyone that HTC's no longer providing warranty repairs if they detect a device has had third party s/w loaded on to it. You can unlock the bootloader and still get work done under warranty but you can't load non-official ROMs. There are at least three different threads discussing this and one provides a link to spam HTC's blog in the UK voicing disapproval of the new policy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631466
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Read the entire forum post a few days ago. I sent the device in with a relocked bootloader with the stock RUU reinstalled in it. I know that there was no "illegal software" (as they called it in the other port) present on the device when I sent it in 3 times.
anfozy said:
They were a crap service and didn't help you much but after you kicking staff out of a level to yell at the manager
Don't expect the manager to help you out much even if you are "VIP" and you go off at the manager hes going to think your an arse and just find the fastest way to get rid of you
I used to work for a service provider in back end and the staff from front desk would always come out to the back and the first thing they'd say is "some prick just went off at me" and if its something that particular staff member didn't do and it was another staff members fault your name and "your a prick gets passed" around the office and nobody will want to help
The best way, is just let whoever your speaking to, know that youre not happy with the service your getting and that you're not actually angry at THAT person your speaking to
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In Hong Kong, one2free/CSL 1O1O is the most "luxurious" and "prestigious" carriers out there for business and high-end markets, so they state. In theory they are supposed to give out good handsets and not flawed ones. Every handset could be flawed and the manufacturers don't want it to be flawed, but the fact that they had the policy of 7 day in-store exchange and I detected it one day after, is just stupid.
But, I know, we weren't actually actually mad at the person we were talking to, he was just trying to help. The other person who was actually furious was because of the phone. We resulted in a happy ending anyways, and that guy told him he wasn't angry at him, rather he was just angry at the service HTC had to provide. We're not that cold hearted you know
I understand where you're going where you said that reasoning is the best way to handle these types of situations, but then it also requires a bit of yelling, and I'll talk about it below.
BenPope said:
Sounds like the device was fixed under warranty. His complaints are that he had to travel 30 minutes and ask more than once for repair.
He wanted a replacement device after voiding the warranty, but didn't want to pay for it, so they replaced the screen under warranty (twice?). And then the casing.
You can't please everybody.
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Yes, you can't please everybody. But have a think about this: How could a repair center do such a crap job that they had to repair it 3 times consecutively? Did they not do a quality check after they fixed the device? I mean, even if I did want to just replace the screen, they should have done it more professionally, not break the casing while repairing the screen.
etismyname said:
how typical hk person OP is. (I am from HK as well, we are also known as the complain society)
voiding the warranty with htcdev before getting a replacement phone.
doesn't want to pay for repair even though the warranty is voided.
screaming and yelling...
A VIP expecting best services because his is an expensive phone (they use the more experienced to fix more complicated issues, not based on the phone price)
and then break yet another phone lol
Can't say I feel sorry about what happened to you :S
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We're not really classified as the "complain society", we just have many lazy people working for high-end companies and don't do ****, try to get rid of their assigned jobs as soon as possible and just slack off. Without requesting (yelling) to see the manager, they probably would just lie to you and say "Sorry! The manager is not here". As soon as they know how furious we are, they wouldn't mess with us and they would do their job properly.
Maybe if you lived in Hong Kong long enough and had the experience of poor service everywhere, you would know that yelling at them to get them to do something is the only way to get what you want.
If we didn't yell at them, they wouldn't have even prioritized this problem and just told us to leave with a broken phone because of a manufacturing defect on the phone THEY supplied.
This message is just to warn people that if you unlock your bootloader in Hong Kong, and you need a repair, they will repair, and not exchange, as many times as you want.
Hong Kong is a good place, but filled with lazy people due to the current social pressures. Let's say you try reasoning with them, without demanding them to look at your current VIP status, they would LITERALLY just ignore you, and tell you that they won't be able to replace it for you.
When you said "A VIP expecting best services because his is an expensive phone (they use the more experienced to fix more complicated issues, not based on the phone price)", I know where you're going at, you can't have everything. But try thinking, if you had your phone repaired, and then you knew it was an intern who repaired your phone, you would know it was poorly repaired or not, but most likely as your schemas will tell you that experts are more superior in skill that interns.
To be honest, I was fine with my repaired phone. It was the other guy I was with who had a bad day, and demanded that I go exchange my phone at my carrier. I gave my phone to him and went off looking at other phones, and he was just yelling at them in the private room. I didn't know how they actually got it exchanged, but the reasoning guy was there as well, so I guess after some demand to realize priority in this situation, and then 30 minutes of reasoning, everything worked out fine. I got my phone and left, really without saying a word.

Well, I have to agree that the repairwork sounds shoddy. When they fixed my DesireHD, they did great job in Yau Ma Tei.
And yes, service can be bad here.

Can I ask somethin about that famous yellow screen defect and flex issue?
Is it something that the phone comes with from the first day or is it developed gradually?
I mean, if we know that those are the 2 well-known issues, when we buy our phone we can check it for a couple of days and then root. Now, if the problem will develop later, we are in trouble. I'm waiting mine in a few weeks and that's why I ask.

Actually I am from hk lol
We are one hell of an abusive customer is king society.
I worked in service sector for half and it is insanely difficult to please any customers.
People asking for special favors or deals because they are buying expensive items.
I know that sometimes it feels like you have to get the situation serious for them to do anything. But most often when you have to go that far, you are disturbing other customer's who are being serviced.
The manager resolved to those solutions (such as giving a replacement phone when warrenty is void) is actually to shut you up asap. You aren't meant to get repair or replacement once warrenty is void (or so I think it is anyway).
Now that you or your fd has got it, you would feel it is their fault at the start for not just giving you one.
But you ain't supposed to have one.
So don't call them ridiculous, or need to yell to get them do something.
Generally these cases are out of standard routine and not fair for other customers
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA

As stated, I did all this at night, in a special room. No other customers were there, it was dead quiet.
The point isn't that I voided my warranty. It is half of what I'm saying. We were upset of the job HTC did to repair my phone. And obviously its not like they didn't take my phone because of the warranty void, it was that we wanted to exchange a defective phone 12 days after purchase, 5 days beyond in-store exchange. Even 3 has a 14 day in-store replacement service, why does 1O1O only have 7? That's what I'm saying. Hong Kong carriers don't really give a damn if you unlocked your bootloaders, they don't know how to even check, its only the HTC service center that does this.
The point is, I am supposed to be issued a replacement if the phone THEY supplied had a defect and I had to go exchange it three times. They didn't care for bootloader unlocks, they just cared for their stupid 7 day in-store warranty and their lack of support after that.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium

SGS2 LTE rooted or not?
Dear Nicholas,
I have been doing exhilarating research about rooting these days because the information available for my phone is a little confusing, really. So I'm quite anxious about making mistakes and all, you know ;-) and getting into trouble like yours.
Now you have just briefly mentioned here that:
nicholaschum said:
After a while, he finally decided to change my phone to the Samsung Galaxy S II LTE phone, which I used for one week. I rooted that phone, and when I restarted CWM recovery, the softkeys broke, even after stock software restore, it was still broken, so they exchanged it for a new phone.
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I just got a new GT-I9210 LTE and the rooting information is very confusing everywhere, people using Skyrocket ROMs and such claiming they're the same, but many saying the soft keys broke. Apparently this particular model doesn't have a solid community of users like Nexus or others. So I'm quite anxious about making mistakes and all, you know ;-)
And I happened to come across your post in another thread titled "[Q] Samsung Galaxy S II LTE Root [SOLVED]" from May 9, where you said that you successfully rooted SGS2 LTE (your mentioned specs exactly match mine) and your soft keys and everything works perfectly.
Now, I'm not trying to catch you out or anything, I was very excited when I found your instructions there first but I am just wondering, is this the same phone you are talking about here and there?
I would like to follow your method if it really worked.

[Q] HOX Screen Flex Issue.

Hi,
Am from India, and am observing a screen flex on my HOX. When I press at the corners of the screen I see very annoying screen flexing effect. My device serial number starts with HT24. And I havent observed this problem in the units with serial number HT23. Is there some defect in this particular HT24 lot ???
Do anyone observe this problem?? Please let me know.

chaithubk said:
Hi,
Am from India, and am observing a screen flex on my HOX. When I press at the corners of the screen I see very annoying screen flexing effect. My device serial number starts with HT24. And I havent observed this problem in the units with serial number HT23. Is there some defect in this particular HT24 lot ???
Do anyone observe this problem?? Please let me know.
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The problems are present in all batches. I had it on my first phone and replaced it the next day.
Just take your phone to a HTC service center get a DOA certificate and exchange the phone in the shop where you bought it from.

its pretty well explained on this forum
if the screen is physically moving on pressure ie up and down, its a defect
if you mean LCD ripple on out edge pressure, its in most of them, unless its very bad, its ok it gets less with time

saranyan said:
The problems are present in all batches. I had it on my first phone and replaced it the next day.
Just take your phone to a HTC service center get a DOA certificate and exchange the phone in the shop where you bought it from.
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- Thanks for the information.
I had visited one of the service center here, and when I showed them the mobile, they said it will be common for all LCD screens. So, I just re-checked in one of the outlets here and observed no issues in the demo One X mobile present in the stores.
And it is worsening day by day. So, I have decided to return the phone. After we return the Phone HTC will give me a DOA certificate ? Or, service center people are authorized to do that ?
Am out of one month period after purchase, then it might not be possible to get a replacement ?

chaithubk said:
- Thanks for the information.
I had visited one of the service center here, and when I showed them the mobile, they said it will be common for all LCD screens. So, I just re-checked in one of the outlets here and observed no issues in the demo One X mobile present in the stores.
And it is worsening day by day. So, I have decided to return the phone. After we return the Phone HTC will give me a DOA certificate ? Or, service center people are authorized to do that ?
Am out of one month period after purchase, then it might not be possible to get a replacement ?
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In India its a 14 day replacement period. Now they can only repair your phone, Go to the service center tell them that the issue is not there on all devices. They must and should repair your device otherwise call up the customer care and complain to them.

hamdir said:
its pretty well explained on this forum
if the screen is physically moving on pressure ie up and down, its a defect
if you mean LCD ripple on out edge pressure, its in most of them, unless its very bad, its ok it gets less with time
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Hamdir, what do you means about "if the screen is physically moving on pressure ie up and down"? Can you show it with a video?

hamdir said:
its pretty well explained on this forum
if the screen is physically moving on pressure ie up and down, its a defect
if you mean LCD ripple on out edge pressure, its in most of them, unless its very bad, its ok it gets less with time
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Are you telling me this is normal on the one x?

This is really bad. Am facing similar kind of behaviour but the flex was not so prominent like what you shared, now I feel that if I don't take a necessary action It may get worse.
And I do find a click sound on right bottom corner of the phone. This all feels like some problem in screen lamination.
Did you replace your mobile ?
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA

Chad_Petree said:
Are you telling me this is normal on the one x?
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That really bad...

echo_rc said:
That really bad...
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Did any one got a replacement (or got the problem solved ?) after sending the "HOX suffering from Screen Flex" to htc service center...
I am planning to send my HOX for service and wonder whether HTC can fix this up or will they send back with problem???

i also had a similar problem here is the video and my batch started with SH24WW
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYX8s41L694&feature=plcp
so was mine a defected unit or its suposed to be like that either way i returned my one x and im never geting a HTC

You haven't got the reply from HTC ? Is that what you are referring to?
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA

chaithubk said:
Did any one got a replacement (or got the problem solved ?) after sending the "HOX suffering from Screen Flex" to htc service center...
I am planning to send my HOX for service and wonder whether HTC can fix this up or will they send back with problem???
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Yes i get replacement for my hox but i still have the flex and still waiting for the good batch for another replacement

echo_rc said:
Yes i get replacement for my hox but i still have the flex and still waiting for the good batch for another replacement
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Do HTC acknowledge this Screen Flex issue ? (Like Wi-Fi issues)
If they acknowledge we can be sure that, we can get the problem solved when we send it for service.
How to bring this up to HTC notice ??? Any senior XDA member route this thread to HTC notcie... !
(Like, someone did it for showcasing the Wi-Fi gripping problem).

You can read this http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/htc-one-x-screen-flex-flaw-we-would-never-let-that-ship-50007596/

echo_rc said:
You can read this http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/htc-one-x-screen-flex-flaw-we-would-never-let-that-ship-50007596/
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HTC's Quallity Control lately is awful insted of quiently brilliant its quiently crapy and this is coming from a big htc's fan

SGS3's are being reported with hairline cracks on the bezel that surrounds the front of the phone when they're taken out of the box.
Some also have gaps on the left side where the display meets the body of the phone and it collects dust.
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The display also cracks easily under stress.
Here's the difference between One X owners and SGS3 owners. People on the SGS3 forum realize any device produced in the millions means a certain percentage are going to have issues. On the One X forum everyone screams like Chinese tree monkeys and starts a poll every time an issues's discovered. My HT23 has been perfect since I got it. I'm assuming it's not the only one. And God, please don't respond "but the One X has more issues than the SGS3." Any evidence of that is purely based on the chatter between users on this forum which is the most emotional I've ever seen on XDA.

BarryH_GEG said:
SGS3's are being reported with hairline cracks on the bezel that surrounds the front of the phone when they're taken out of the box.
Some also have gaps on the left side where the display meets the body of the phone and it collects dust.
The display also cracks easily under stress.
Here's the difference between One X owners and SGS3 owners. People on the SGS3 forum realize any device produced in the millions means a certain percentage are going to have issues. On the One X forum everyone screams like Chinese tree monkeys and starts a poll every time an issues's discovered. My HT23 has been perfect since I got it. I'm assuming it's not the only one. And God, please don't respond "but the One X has more issues than the SGS3." Any evidence of that is purely based on the chatter between users on this forum which is the most emotional I've ever seen on XDA.
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Sure that you are right there is no phone without issues or a manufactor without manufacturing issues but c'mon i my self had an headache because of the one x man too many problems im not saying that the s3 is without issues but i hope its not like with the one x man does that phone have issues and one thing with any phone or device (tablet,pc,laptop..etc) there is a chance to get a defected one but with the htc one x its the way around,there is a chance that you'll get a working phone but mostly thats not the case and you get a "defected one".Mine had screen flex issues and also ripple and flickering also 2 days after using the phone startet to get yellow spots and it overheated a lot and the battery sucked i tried 3 devices and all had similar issues mostly screen flex overheating and bad battery life you cant call the last one a defect or an issue but for me it is hope the galaxy s3 is better if not then apple here i come (iphone 4s)

Mine had screen flex before it some how went away. Didn't do anything just used it. It wasn't very bad to begin with though. I won't be pushing so hard on my display anyway. Its capacitive, no need for all the pressure. But thats just me. :laugh:

Mine has the same issue on both the corners. I wont consider this as an issue as long it dose not get worse. mine is just 2days old and i have already rooted it and i am running the phone on insertcoin ROM. I am little concerned about this issue getting worse in the future. But now that i have rooted it the question is will the HTC service center replace my phone? I live in India (Bangalore). Has any one from India had luck in getting their phone replaced after rooting and installing a custom ROM and then restoring it to the stock ?
I have an issue with the network drop as well. if i move in to a place where there is no network and then come back to a place where i can get a complete network the phone still wont connect. i will either have to restart it or will have to switch on the airplane mode and switch it off. This is a little annoying as i really cant keep checking my phone for the network connectivity. And this is not a rare case i have seen a lot of other people complaining on the same issue. Now i get this flex issue too Not really happy with the phone as it should not have the very basic problems as the network connectivity Common HTC do something about this.

HTC Have Failed us? Last HTC Device

Well, there is a lot of information around this part of XDA about how many faults the HOX has, not just little faults that effect a few users, but major faults that have effected whole batched of HOX's.
Now, all devices are going to have faults and "bad Batchs" but its how your provider deals with those faults, that make the difference.
The way HTC has dealt with the HOX's issue, have made me think that this will be the last HTC device I ever purchase.
Around 2 weeks ago, I was going back and forth with e-mails from HTC. It's like they didn't even read my e-mails, as though the used the "Find" function and just searched keywords in the e-mail, if those keywords came up they copied and pasted something in response.
This isn't good enough in my opinion, but it gets worse. Even after I had said that you clearly are not reading my e-mails, which makes the issue ten times worse, they then replied with the same response as my first email, which confirmed my theory.
Then, after I refused to send it to HTC over the "WiFi" fault, due to the amount of storied I have seen where the devices have come back far-worse than when they were first sent.
THEY THEN AGREED AND SAID LAST YEAR THEY CHANGED THEIR REPAIR CENTRE!! WRONG!! I had now been lied to.
Just looking for others opinions, do you have any "GOOD" storied about HTC and their support?
Anyone had an experience like me that has totally put them off HTC for good?
Should I just stick with my device and live with the WiFi fault, or should I take the plunge and return my device for repair?
THANKS ALL !

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Well, there is a lot of information around this part of XDA about how many faults the HOX has, not just little faults that effect a few users, but major faults that have effected whole batched of HOX's.
Now, all devices are going to have faults and "bad Batchs" but its how your provider deals with those faults, that make the difference.
The way HTC has dealt with the HOX's issue, have made me think that this will be the last HTC device I ever purchase.
Around 2 weeks ago, I was going back and forth with e-mails from HTC. It's like they didn't even read my e-mails, as though the used the "Find" function and just searched keywords in the e-mail, if those keywords came up they copied and pasted something in response.
This isn't good enough in my opinion, but it gets worse. Even after I had said that you clearly are not reading my e-mails, which makes the issue ten times worse, they then replied with the same response as my first email, which confirmed my theory.
Then, after I refused to send it to HTC over the "WiFi" fault, due to the amount of storied I have seen where the devices have come back far-worse than when they were first sent.
THEY THEN AGREED AND SAID LAST YEAR THEY CHANGED THEIR REPAIR CENTRE!! WRONG!! I had now been lied to.
Just looking for others opinions, do you have any "GOOD" storied about HTC and their support?
Anyone had an experience like me that has totally put them off HTC for good?
Should I just stick with my device and live with the WiFi fault, or should I take the plunge and return my device for repair?
THANKS ALL !
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send your device for repair and end of story....if you want your phone to be fully functional then send it away and end of the matter....same thing would of happen with your car...if there is a fault you send it in and you are without a car for a few days..same with the phone...do not know what is the issue here really..yeah you are not happy with the way they are responding to you..but get on the phone and call them instead of emails....speak to your network provider and send your phone to them instead of HTC then...I know this will be my last HTC phone but at the end of the day i still love my One X and yes i send my phone for repairs and it took longer than i was told but when i received my phone back i never had any issues...

I think that one of the most important things to have in any service provider is client support.I think that this is strange I was thinking (theoratically) that a company like HTC would have a good support ofor clients,but after what I heared I'm surprused and a little bit disappointed....but if you please cab I know your country for better knowledge,and why you didnt try to make a call to.the support center in your country??! :screwy:
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When I have some issue with something, I feel everyone has those issues with that thing, and i start calling that thing as defective, human nature! My phone is not having a single defect, no, HTC won my trust in them with this device

Firstly, it's not true that entire batches were affected by faults, that's a blatant exaggeration. A small fraction of devices with similar serial numbers have similar problems.
Secondly, there appears to be a few cases where sending off for repair didn't work out too well for people, but again, a small fraction.
A small fraction of a small fraction is very small.
If you refuse to have your faulty device repaired, then really, you forfeit you're right to complain about your faulty device.
I don't care which phone you buy next, and I'd be surprised if there is anybody else who does.
If you want sympathy, talk to your girlfriend, mother or another female friend, or possibly a shrink. You won't find much here. If you want help, it's been given to you; send it in for repair.

When I have some issue with something, I feel everyone has those issues with that thing, and i start calling that thing as defective, human nature! My phone is not having a single defect, no, HTC won my trust in them with this device
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Okay I understand but what about the company's support?? did you try it?
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I for one have the following opinions :
-customer service is a mess. The only few that wan't to help don't have the power to do it.
-i can accept that some procent of an entire production can have problems, but in this case things got out of proportion. Cases like 10 exchanged One X's are confirmed on this forum. I even saw a post where someone said he exchanged 22 devices.
-i for one have the third One X now, and now someone from HTC tells me that is normal to receive a refurbished device. Even if i paid a fully working one, and it's not if i have used the device for a year...it has been faulty from the first day.
-the One X is a dezaster as QA and this attitude twords clients is a bigger dezaster

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So they offered to fix it and you said "no"?
...due to the amount of storied I have seen where the devices have come back far-worse than when they were first sent.
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How are you blaming HTC? You could have sent it, decided to be stubborn, and now you're complaining about the outcome of your own actions.
My HOX works fine. Other than them being slow in the update, just fine.
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uqadwe said:
I for one have the following opinions :
-customer service is a mess. The only few that wan't to help don't have the power to do it.
-i can accept that some procent of an entire production can have problems, but in this case things got out of proportion. Cases like 10 exchanged One X's are confirmed on this forum. I even saw a post where someone said he exchanged 22 devices.
-i for one have the third One X now, and now someone from HTC tells me that is normal to receive a refurbished device. Even if i paid a fully working one, and it's not if i have used the device for a year...it has been faulty from the first day.
-the One X is a dezaster as QA and this attitude twords clients is a bigger dezaster
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As expected, this thread is another *****fest.
The guy with the ten devices story is very sketchy. Anyone getting 10 devices in 2 months from one place is either the most unlucky person in the world or doing something to break his device (like the "SQUEEZE IT TILL IT BREAKS" aka the wifi test). Someone getting 22 devices is twice as sketchy.
Here's how it works kids: if you get a faulty phone, take it back. Get a new one. If that is faulty, maybe do the same, or move on to another device. Whining after breaking it attempting a squeeze test or effing it up with a bad flash is your fault.

You maybe right, let's discuss my case then.
First device, yellow spots, screen flex & ripple. I contacted HTC support, they told me that the retailer will exchange my phone on the spot. That wasn't the case. The retailer didn't accepted this so i sent the phone to the repair shop, got the rezolution for a new phone and then got a new phone at the retailer.
The only problem was that the retailer had only faulty devices. I contacted HTC support from there, i got another device that i was told to ship to the repair shop and i will get a new one from them.
I did that, and not only the device i received is faultyer than the first two it is also refurbished.
I contacted HTC on 22 August first regarding this, the only response i got is to resend the phone to be repaired. I can not accept a refurbished device. If someone else can accept it that's their problem.
And from 22 August i am only beeing postponed with escalated, reescalated cases.
Wouldn't you ***** about it ?

HTC Don't care about their customers, why should I pay so much for something, then have to be without it for a month so they can fix it?
I probably will send it off to them, but for the hassle and time spent without the phone, it isn't worth sending it to them.
My phone is very important to my work aswell so again, this isn't just effected me in one way.
I am blaming HTC for not even reading my emails, and sending out phones with faults, I'm not blaming HTC for the fact I won't send it back.
Also, it isn't just one case that have been sent back in much worse conditions, and I never refered to any one case as an example, as these examples of HTC are all over the internet.
AND AS I SAID BEFORE ALL DEVICES ARE BOUND TO HAVE FAULTS, ITS HOW YOU DEAL WITH THE FAULTS!! AND HTC DONT DEAL WITH THEM WELL !

the devices have come back far-worse than when they were first sent
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That's exactly what happened to me.
When i first bought my One X i thought i had a faultless device but after a month or two i realized that it had a faulty pixel, so i went ahead and sent it to repair and guess how it came back?
Faults before sending the device:
1) Faulty pixel
2) Screen flex/ripple when applying slight pressure on the edges of the screen
Faults after sending the device:
1) Screen flex/ripple when applying slight pressure on any place on the screen
2) Recent apps button doesn't light up while the others do (Back and Home)
3) The device makes a crackling sound as if the screen didn't fit into the device correctly
4) The wifi fault
So basically they ruined it instead of fixing it. I've sent it back to repair hopefully they'll fix it this time.

kryptoner said:
When I have some issue with something, I feel everyone has those issues with that thing, and i start calling that thing as defective, human nature! My phone is not having a single defect, no, HTC won my trust in them with this device
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Same here - although I had issue at start with the tilt sensor failing, but got it swapped straight away via my carrier (O2 UK), and have had no problems with the new one since.
I had problems with my old Samsung Galaxy S when I first had that (think it was the third one I had that didn't bring a new issue), so there will always be a risk of teething problems with first batches.
All in all, been very happy with it, even more so than my old Galaxy S in that I don't feel the need to root this one to change the Rom to fix failings with the device!

lolhard123 said:
That's exactly what happened to me.
When i first bought my One X i thought i had a faultless device but after a month or two i realized that it had a faulty pixel, so i went ahead and sent it to repair and guess how it came back?
Faults before sending the device:
1) Faulty pixel
2) Screen flex/ripple when applying slight pressure on the edges of the screen
Faults after sending the device:
1) Screen flex/ripple when applying slight pressure on any place on the screen
2) Recent apps button doesn't light up while the others do (Back and Home)
3) The device makes a crackling sound as if the screen didn't fit into the device correctly
4) The wifi fault
So basically they ruined it instead of fixing it. I've sent it back to repair hopefully they'll fix it this time.
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That is exactly my point, which is exactly why I don't want to send HTC my device, as the only fault is the WiFi and to be honest I can live with that, but to send it to your company for a fix, and recieve a worse device back is un-acceptable, and to recieve a "re-furbished phone" is again unacceptable.
Steve_God said:
Same here - although I had issue at start with the tilt sensor failing, but got it swapped straight away via my carrier (O2 UK), and have had no problems with the new one since.
I had problems with my old Samsung Galaxy S when I first had that (think it was the third one I had that didn't bring a new issue), so there will always be a risk of teething problems with first batches.
All in all, been very happy with it, even more so than my old Galaxy S in that I don't feel the need to root this one to change the Rom to fix failings with the device!
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That is nothing to do with HTC though, you took it back to your carrier, who sorted to issue for you, so HTC caused your issue, but HTC had no involvement fixing it!

Also I forgot to mention that the repair center refuses to acknowledge the screen flex as a "flaw" and they claim that it's present on all One X's although this video proves otherwise youtube.com/watch?v=MiTUIBOSVTU

the title of your thread is misleading

To be fair its the repair centers contracted out by htc that are letting everyone down. If htc actually repaired the phones themselves then it might be better.
They do need to sort out those repair centers who are returning them unrepaired etc
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Mate, you're in the UK and you're with Voda. What's your problem? Is the phone from Voda? If it is I'm pretty sure they'll sort it, their retentions and support are epic. If its not, where's it from? You're covered by your standard 12 month warranty and if you're still not sure you're also protected under the Sale of Goods Act 1979 which superceeds any terms in a manufactures warranty AND lasts an additional FIVE YEARS!!
Really, I expected better from a senior forum member. Throwing your toys out of the pram is no way to set an example to newcomers and personally I'm sick of all these "Blah blah blah HTC are a bunch of hopeless c*nts." threads. If you're that upset, sell the thing, buy a Samsung and f*ck off!
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Ooops...got a bit carried away there somewhat. Lol
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My hox is perfect, though I bought it in May.
I had much more troubles with atrix 4G and desire.
So for now I'll stick with hox and my next phone will be probably htc, though I pay no attention to brand, i just choose the best
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I've only ever dealt.with HTC customer service once. Best experience from any company. Ever.
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Duo camera always not working; Fail repair service

Hi guys. I got my One M8, WWE Asia version (CID HTC__044) on April 6, a day after it was released in Singapore. Unfortunately, someone else, while admiring my phone, dropped it screen face-down and it cracked. I sent it in for repair on the 12th of June, and the customer service officer said it would take about 2-4 days for the repair to finish. I ended up getting back my phone on the 21st, with all the data in it gone. Lucky I had made a backup with Titanium Backup.
However, not only was all the data gone, they replaced the main board, and it was S-ON and locked again. Then I realised that the proximity and brightness sensors were messed up, and I had to send it in within two days of getting back my phone. Another three days without my phone.
Now, I realised that the Duo camera on my phone isn't working. I covered it and tried to take a shot, and the message 'don't cover Duo camera' didn't pop up. No Duo effects work, on photos I take now, such as UFocus. This wasn't a problem before I sent it in for repair.
This seems a lot of trouble to go to just for a cracked screen, and it isn't what I expected from HTC customer service. I even asked for a phone replacement but they refused. If I'd known that HTC customer service (at least in Singapore) was this bad, I would've gotten an iPhone.
I got the M8 because I really like HTC's phones, ever since I got my first HTC, the Sensation XE. Right now, my main question is, is there any way I can diagnose and solve this problem myself without having to send it in and then having some other problem? HTC Customer Service seems intent on not wanting to replace the phone. Neither do they seem to properly fix the phone either.
I'm really frustrated, and I'm an inch from stomping up to their office and swearing the heck out of them (even though it isn't the officers' faults, yes, I'm just being irrational). Their repair service seems really bad for a full-fledged company. I think I would've done better at some budget, road-side repair shop that costs thirty bucks. Please, help.

First of all, never ever let someone else, especially one with butter fingers, handle your expensive new phone.
Seriously, why did they feel a need to replace the motherboard too? Is the phone that you got back the same one that you sent in, or could it be that they sent back a refurb. Either way it won't matter because your phone is not working like it is supposed to even after they supposedly "fixed" it twice, probably with refurb parts that have not been thoroughly tested. If they continue to play hard ball and tell you to go pound sand, I would take it to their social media and raise a stink about it there. From my experience, that is the fastest way to get results and hopefully a resolution.
Good luck.

Thanks for the reply. I'll give them a last chance (three times the charm?), and send in my phone on Monday. If they replace it, great. If not, and they do another bang-up job, I'm going to both HTC's international and Singapore Facebook pages and copy the rant over and see what they say.
About the motherboard, according to the CS officer, it was standard procedure to replace just about anything in the phone when the screen cracks. I attribute this to the low repairability of the phone itself - refer to iFixit.
I don't really want to give bad reviews about companies that I really like (HTC is one of them; as mentioned, I feel their phones are truly the best among Androids), but this kind of horrible CS is driving me crazy; I've never had such a bad experience.
P.S. On the bright side, HTC Singapore has this pick-up and delivery service that saves me the twenty-five minute train ride with a transfer included, to their service centre. I just have to call them, and the courier is at my doorstep within a couple of hours. I've got to give credit where it's due.