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Should I go for Verizon touch pro 2 or something else??

Hi
I'm new to the US, and I'm not familiar with the wireless companies system here..
I have some question:
1. Which service provider is better? I'll be living in Berkeley, CA?? I keep hearing that At&T has bad reception.. which one should I go for??
2. The 30$ data plan: all companies say that this plan is unlimited, but I keep reading (at least for Verizon) it's 5 GB/month.. is this true?? and are there any companies that offer real unlimited data plan...
Because I was thinking of using my phone as a modem for my PC, I don't want to pay more 30-40$ for DSL if I already have a true unlimited data plan
3. Roll over minutes: does this apply only to AT&t, or all carriers?
Thanks in advance guys

duke911 said:
Hi
I'm new to the US, and I'm not familiar with the wireless companies system here..
I have some question:
1. Which service provider is better? I'll be living in Berkeley, CA?? I keep hearing that At&T has bad reception.. which one should I go for??
2. The 30$ data plan: all companies say that this plan is unlimited, but I keep reading (at least for Verizon) it's 5 GB/month.. is this true?? and are there any companies that offer real unlimited data plan...
Because I was thinking of using my phone as a modem for my PC, I don't want to pay more 30-40$ for DSL if I already have a true unlimited data plan
3. Roll over minutes: does this apply only to AT&t, or all carriers?
Thanks in advance guys
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I just left AT&T due to extremely poor customer service. AT&T is the only carrier that offers rollover minutes, but their 3G coverage is spotty, and when switching from 3G to Edge or vise versa, you will experience a lot of dropped calls. If you want to use your phone as a modem with AT&T you have to get a tethering plan which will run you $60/month. Verizon has a much larger 3G coverage area, and you don't have to worry about the network being burdened by iPhone users. Sprint has rolled out 4G coverage in some areas with plans to expand. Sprint has cheaper calling plans, but their subsidized phone prices are higher. All in all, do your research, and check online for reviews of coverage, network speed, and customer service.

1. reception obviously varies by location. VZW probably has the best claim to the best nationwide coverage--their business model has very much focused on network building, and up until very recently, their phone selection sucked because they didn't invest as much in securing great smartphones. Alternatively, ATT has focused investment heavily on having great phones, and haven't focused investment as much on building any of their networks.
That said, ATT has great phone reception in a lots of metropolitan areas. There might even be some areas where they have better coverage. And while their 3G data coverage isn't nearly as broad, where it exists, it has been tested as being the fastest (especially when you're not using an iPhone).
2. No, all wireless carriers have a cap of some kind. Further most will charge an extra $30ish a month on top of the $30ish a month for smartphone data for tethering (using your phone as a modem), and they'll still have a data cap.
3. I don't know VZW's plans.

ive been with ATT for YEARS and their costumer service can kiss my ass because i never use it. why? because they offer best reception where im at. why would i want to find out how good t-mobiles costumer service is? i just want a reliable network. all carriers have crappy prices and conditions here. just find the one that works for you and dont listen to what anyone else says. why would you care if verizon has 3g in montana and att doesnt if you live in LA?? its irrelevant. find the least crappy one for you and stick with it.

Do some research on the difference between CDMA and GSM networks. One may work better than another in certain situations.
T-Mobile has cheap rate plans and free tethering.
Sprint has a WiMax network rolling out, although all of the carriers are working on LTE or some other standard of 4G- Not really a concern at this point, since few phones support it.
Verizon has the best customer satisfaction ratings, but their phones are often locked down with software.
AT&T has a history of dropping calls, but has the fastest recorded data speeds.
No matter whom you may chose, you will end up disappointed over some facet or another. You will need to get DSL or some other form of land-based internet, unless you can keep yourself constrained to the 5GB data caps that ALL of the carriers have.

I guess I'm gonna go with verizon then..
I asked a Veizon representative today about the Touch Pro 2, and he said it's only CDMA ... although on their websitethey say it's GSM Quad Band!!! Is there anything that I'm missing?
Will I be able to use out side the US if travel home?
cheers

duke911 said:
I guess I'm gonna go with verizon then..
I asked a Veizon representative today about the Touch Pro 2, and he said it's only CDMA ... although on their websitethey say it's GSM Quad Band!!! Is there anything that I'm missing?
Will I be able to use out side the US if travel home?
cheers
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Yeah, it's kind of misleading. The Verizon Touch Pro2 is actually a CDMA/GSM hybrid device, which works on Verizon's CDMA network or any GSM network. In theory, you should be able to use it on any GSM network in any country as long as you have a valid SIM card.

you cant trust advertising. it makes it appear that all options are shiney. verizon claims all of its wireless technologies as 3g no matter what they are, whether they have speeds slower than atts 2g or worse. the verizon touch pro will not actually work in the us or canada on gsm. you also need to pay for vodofone service separately to get international coverage. you can flash a radio that will let you use atts network but youll loose the cdma network verizon uses. sprints 4g network is not as promising as i hoped. its slower than atts 3g network and to use it you have to buy a $10 1-day pass that will let you use 4g in about 10 or so cities. its also not on any phones. in terms of data or unlimited plans, i would probably have to recommend t-mobile. even though i think they have the ugliest version of the touch pro 2. verizon does limit there unlimited plans to 4gb a month i think. and yes att is the only one with roll over. i never use my minutes so i up to about 10000 minutes rolled over. i will never be charged overage as long as i live.

I was with ATT when they were known as Cingular for three years. One day I got a call and they said I was using it off their network too much and I had to stop it or they would cancel me. Since I was not even living in their area, it was not going to happen.
So I signed up with Verizon, which did not even sell phones within a hundred miles of where I would be using it. That was in March of 2007. I went to Alaska for 16 months where it roamed constantly. Not a peep from Verizon about not being on their network. When going to a remote village for more than a month where no cell phone would work, I would just call them and they would suspend my phone for the time I was there. No bill at all and no charge for turning it off. So I have to say the customer support from Verizon is the best there is and ATT is the absolute worst.

texascbx said:
I was with ATT when they were known as Cingular for three years. One day I got a call and they said I was using it off their network too much and I had to stop it or they would cancel me. Since I was not even living in their area, it was not going to happen.
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they wouldnt say something like that. the entire gsm network is theirs.
btw att, verizon, and sprint all have horrible customer service. youre going to always loose with any provider.

The Jack of Clubs said:
they wouldnt say something like that. the entire gsm network is theirs.
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Last I checked, Tmobile's network isn't owned by ATT.

thanks a lot for your help guys, I really appreciae that.
I have one final question: Is there a way I can buy verizon touch pro 2 without a contract, and use it with verizon prepaid service (if that is possible in te first place)?
I'm new here and I don't have many people to speak with, and since I'm a student, I could use any some extra money
Cheers

duke911 said:
thanks a lot for your help guys, I really appreciae that. I have one final question: Is there a way I can buy verizon touch pro 2 without a contract, and use it with verizon prepaid service (if that is possible in te first place)? I'm new here and I don't have many people to speak with, and since I'm a student, I could use any some extra money
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I purchased my VZW off contract. Unsubsidized is probably about $500.
Different carriers have different rules for their prepaid services. With GSM carriers, TMo and ATT, it's easy to pop a prepaid sim into any phone. With CDMA (Sprint and VZW), I'm not sure. Best bet is to call and ask.

well i had sprint for ever...I switched to tmobile.. to get that tp2 free through wmdeals.com even though coverage sucks at my house im happy.. I have wifi for data when im home.. when i leave my home i have edge service everwhere.. til i start getting close to mesquite ( texas ) it goes to 3g.. but edge works great with opera mini.. and for updating certain things.. but so far tmobile rocks..

The Jack of Clubs said:
they wouldnt say something like that. the entire gsm network is theirs.
btw att, verizon, and sprint all have horrible customer service. youre going to always loose with any provider.
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That's where you are wrong. They did cancel me and one of my brothers living in another town shortly after I got the call and letter. The explanation was they had contracts with other providers to cover you when your were roaming. And roaming was fine, as long as you did not do it too much. I roamed all the time, for about three years.

I called Verizon today, and the representative said that I can't use their prepaid service on a smart phone... although I'm not really sure about, as she sounded clueless, and I had to do lots of explanation until she got the basic idea..
anyway... I like really the verizon version of the Touch Pro 2..
If I go for month-to-month and get it for full retail (490$).. can I cancel with Verizon after that, and unlock my phone, then use it with some other network like T-mobile or At&T????
I never used CDMA before, and after reading some info, I think GSM is better for me, at least for now...

duke911 said:
I called Verizon today, and the representative said that I can't use their prepaid service on a smart phone... although I'm not really sure about, as she sounded clueless, and I had to do lots of explanation until she got the basic idea..
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You never know with reps. I seem to recall that VZW's prepaid might have some unlimited data intended for dumbphones, which of course they wouldn't want you to use with a smartphone.
There are MVNOs, like Page Plus, that use VZW's network, but have prepaid plans where they probably wouldn't be concerned about smartphone usage (pay per kb instead of unlimited).
If I go for month-to-month and get it for full retail (490$).. can I cancel with Verizon after that, and unlock my phone, then use it with some other network like T-mobile or At&T????
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You can get it unlocked here and use it on ATT or TMo (minus 3g, 2g data still works), and as to whether you can cancel after the fact without penalty, it depends on exactly what you signed up for at VZW.

texascbx said:
That's where you are wrong. They did cancel me and one of my brothers living in another town shortly after I got the call and letter. The explanation was they had contracts with other providers to cover you when your were roaming. And roaming was fine, as long as you did not do it too much. I roamed all the time, for about three years.
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fortunz said:
Last I checked, Tmobile's network isn't owned by ATT.
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well then double check because att hardware can not utilize tmobile 1700 band. if you in the country you are never going to use another carriers network. and roaming only applies to out of country. even if you stand anywhere on the canadian or mexican borders, you wont be charged roaming. the system isnt that fd up.

The Jack of Clubs said:
well then double check because att hardware can not utilize tmobile 1700 band. if you in the country you are never going to use another carriers network. and roaming only applies to out of country. even if you stand anywhere on the canadian or mexican borders, you wont be charged roaming. the system isnt that fd up.
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Well, that's not entirely true. AT&T devices can use T-Mobile's network, just not HSPA (3G), and vice versa. Before I got my 8925, my main phone was an old T-Mobile Blackberry 7200 which I unlocked to use on AT&T. It could make phone calls and browse at EDGE speeds just fine. The 3G bands are f*cked up internationally since they often differ by country and carrier, but the EDGE and basic GSM bands are pretty much compatible with any GSM phone (since most GSM phones are Tri-band or Quad-band capable).
In addition, it's perfectly possible to use another network in the same country. If a company like AT&T doesn't have infrastructure in a remote area and wants to add service there, they'll often strike a deal with a local carrier who does. It's usually a seamless transition for the user, and it doesn't generally cost the user a cent. Rather, AT&T is the one paying the local cellular operator for allowing the AT&T customers use the local carrier's network as opposed to the alternative of having no coverage in that area. AT&T got mad at texascbx because he was costing AT&T money by roaming on these local carriers, which AT&T had to pay.
Lastly, I know people who live near the borders and they always are careful to see which operator they are using. One of them lives near the Mexican border, and has to make sure he's on AT&T's network before he makes a call. If he doesn't check, he might be roaming on the TelMex network and will get billed outrageous fees for a simple call, even though he's in the US.

I was at the mall today, and I talked to a T-Mobile guy, and he said I can get the T-mobile version of touch pro 2 for full retail, and I can use it with their prepaid plan without any porblems.
Then I spoke with a Verizon representative, and he said that I can't do that on their network, however I can buy the device with out a contract and without any plan...
So my Final question (and I guess fortunz answered before,but I still feel like asking coz I don't want to through 500$ away)... If I get the Verizon Touch Pro 2, and get it unlocked here
http://rhodiumw.htc-unlocks.com/
or here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=578642
will I be able to use it with any carrier?? prepaid or plan??
I don't really mind about the data, as I'll be using WiFi mainly
Thanks a lot

[Q] GT-I9250 with T-Mobile US SIM card roaming in Japan

Hi There,
Just came back from Tokyo Japan today. I noticed that my T-Mobile US SIM with my GNEX GT-I9250 doesn't work in Japan. I checked that Japan uses UMTS=2100MHz, which is covered by the GNEX. Why would roaming not work? Anybody has similar experience? Could it be SIM issue, since I had the same SIM for around 4 or more years now...?
Any input is much appreciated. I will need to get it up & running asap, as I probably will need to take another trip soon...
Thanks in advance!

Well it depends if there is a roaming agreement between T-Mobile and whatever carrier you're trying to use... and there may be issues because the T-Mobile SIM is provisioned to use 1700/2100 AWS, not 2100 specifically. The SIM probably isn't set up to roam properly if I had to guess.
But really, you don't want to roam. The prices are astronomical. You saved yourself a lot of money not roaming. Just buy a local SIM/hotspot when you get there, or contact T-Mobile about their international data plans (and ask how they handle the SIM incompatibility).

IF its not TMobile prepaid you got to call TMobile and let them know your leaving the US so they activate the International Roaming.....

I went to Tokyo last year and I had no issues making called or sending texts. But my raining charges were ridiculous. My gf calling me all the time ran my bill up to $800.00. -_-
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Thanks guys for the inputs.
best1923: I am on monthly plan, and did call ahead to T-Mo and let them know I was going to Japan. I recalled they even responded "Have a pleasant trip to Japan." So I doubt it is that. Appreciate nonetheless.
martonikaj and foxehkins: I would buy a local sim too if I do make a lot of local calls. Problem is, I don't. ppl know me by my US number, and I'm there only for short period of time. So doesn't make sense for me to get a local sim. Since foxehkins confirms that roaming does work (@ the expense of $800+), guess I'll find out from T-Mo store if it could be the sim that's causing the issue.
Thanks.

Pre paid sim card (USA)

Hello ,
I'm heading over to Miami at the end of march to go to umf and would like to get what I guess is a pre paid sim card for my unlocked note 2. I'm looking for what I would call pay as you go , top it up with some minutes and data. Any price guide lines or carrier recommendations for this?
Thanks,
J
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I'm also looking into prepaid plans for this phone (gt-n7100, french model). From what I gather, this model will work on AT&T and get hspa+ and it will work on T-mobile and get 2g speeds in most of the country with some (rare) places getting 4-g. You can get straight talk compatible cards designed for phones from either network. The straight-talk AT&T cards have been discontinued, but are still available on ebay for $50ish. There is also a company called net10 that says they support AT&T phones, so you could probably get the hspa+ speeds with them, as well. On straight talk, the data is supposed to be unlimited, but some people are saying AT&T phones get limited to 2GB. On net10, the fine print says something about full-speed data being limited to 1.5GB.
So far, these are the only options I've looked at. I'd be happy to hear about other prepaid sim options in the USA for the GT-n7100.
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After some looking around, I see that t-mobile has some project going on where they are "refarming" some of their 2g towers to 1900mhz hspa+. This would allow our phone to operate at better-than-2g speeds. From looking at youtube videos, there's are quite a few people with unlocked phones on t-mobile showing off some pretty good 3g speeds. If you don't happen to be in an area that has been refarmed, you'd be stuck at the 2g speeds. I got ahold of somebody from t-mobile's tech support to ask about which areas have been upgraded so far, and she was a complete idiot. I guess the only way to know if you are in one of the magic areas is to pop in one of their sim cards and see what happens.

[Q] Nexus 7 LTE: US networks and Verizon experiences?

What are other people's US experiences, what type LTE do you get?
Google starting selling the Nexus 7 LTE in the Google Play store 130909 https://play.google.com/store/devic...cked_T_Mobile_SI?id=nexus_7_32gb_2013_lte_tmo
It comes with 30 days of T-Mobile LTE/HSPA. I confirmed with Google Play support that they are shipping the US version that has LTE bands 13 and 17. This means that in addition to T-Mobile LTE and HSPA, this will do the same on AT&T and also LTE on Verizon.
Google says it does not work with Verizon, but technically, it should. Verizon has a full LTE nationwide coverage on band 13. I am going to try my Verizon sim the day I get this thing. Then I'll be raiding the AT&T store for 30 days of LTE: fastest provider wins.
What are other people's US experiences, what type LTE do you get?
If you go Nexus 7 LTE 〉Settings 〉About Tablet 〉Status, Mobile network type indicates what connection you have, eg. LTE:13.
best test apps:
- Speed Test
- Open Signal
- Sensorly
- SignalCheck Lite
- Firebind (check for blocked ports, shouldn't be any)
Some blog posts:
Nexus 7 LTE for the US: http://blog.haraldrudell.com/2013/08/nexus-7-lte-future-of-mobility-nexus-7.html
US Open Access: http://blog.haraldrudell.com/2013/08/googles-got-balls.html
LTE Portability in the US: http://blog.haraldrudell.com/2013/09/4-13-17-are-magic-numbers-mobile-device.html

PhoneGeek said:
Google says it does not work with Verizon, but technically, it should. Verizon has a full LTE nationwide coverage on band 13. I am going to try my Verizon sim the day I get this thing. Then I'll be raiding the AT&T store for 30 days of LTE: fastest provider wins.
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Source please?
It was supposed to work with Verizon, on LTE at least. I'm not going to order one if it doesn't.

It works with Verizon LTE not 3g
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Very interested to hear what happens when you pop in your Verizon SIM.
Actually someone already has: http://www.droid-life.com/2013/09/11/video-first-look-at-verizon-data-on-the-new-nexus-7-lte/

cmstlist said:
Very interested to hear what happens when you pop in your Verizon SIM.
Actually someone already has: http://www.droid-life.com/2013/09/11/video-first-look-at-verizon-data-on-the-new-nexus-7-lte/
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In the comments on that video, a couple of people are noting that Verizon stores have refused to supply sim cards and activate Nexus 7 tablets, because "they're not in their system". I think the person that made the video just removed the sim from his phone and it worked. I want to get one of these and add it to my current plan for $10/month and share my current data plan. It's too bad Google and Verizon can't seem to get it together and explain how this works. I'll wait until there are no hoops to jump through. I wonder if the LTE only, no 3G restriction on Verizon is Google's way of forcing Verizon's hand. I don't think they're allowed to refuse a device that operates solely on LTE.

patrickoneal said:
In the comments on that video, a couple of people are noting that Verizon stores have refused to supply sim cards and activate Nexus 7 tablets, because "they're not in their system". I think the person that made the video just removed the sim from his phone and it worked. I want to get one of these and add it to my current plan for $10/month and share my current data plan. It's too bad Google and Verizon can't seem to get it together and explain how this works. I'll wait until there are no hoops to jump through. I wonder if the LTE only, no 3G restriction on Verizon is Google's way of forcing Verizon's hand. I don't think they're allowed to refuse a device that operates solely on LTE.
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I'm trying to activate one for my buddy on Verizon. It doesn't appear to be Verizon trying to be stubborn about it. It's more about technical limitations. Verizon devices need a serial number and a SIM ID to activate on their LTE network and the Nexus 7 only has a SIM ID that can be used. The serial number isn't recognized in Verizon's system because it's still a GSM device. So thus far, it looks like the method shown of using a SIM that's already activated is the only way of getting this going. Having its own dedicated number is a trickier matter.

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I'm trying to activate one for my buddy on Verizon. It doesn't appear to be Verizon trying to be stubborn about it. It's more about technical limitations. Verizon devices need a serial number and a SIM ID to activate on their LTE network and the Nexus 7 only has a SIM ID that can be used. The serial number isn't recognized in Verizon's system because it's still a GSM device. So thus far, it looks like the method shown of using a SIM that's already activated is the only way of getting this going. Having its own dedicated number is a trickier matter.
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Edited to add: Thanks for the reply and the information.
Well, that sucks.
As far as I know, Google advertised this as working with Verizon when it was launched. Now they're saying next to nothing about it.
So, if I want to activate this as an add-on tablet at $10/month, I have to buy the Nexus 7, some other used Verizon tablet off ebay, activate it and swap the SIM. I may be incorrect, but I'd bet you couldn't sell off the other tablet and let someone else activate it using this method, unless the SIM isn't attached to the serial number in Verizon's system.
No offense intended, but I believe this is Verizon being stubborn. The tablet obviously functions on their network, but they aren't willing to supply a SIM and simply activate it.
Please let us know if you're successful in getting it activated without swapping a SIM from some other device. I can't be the only one interested in getting this going, but I'm not going to order one until I know it works.

I seem to remember reading that with past devices, others have had success bringing in a tablet that's already active on some other account but without the SIM, and asking for a SIM to activate it.

Buy Verizon ipad mini. Activate sim. Return ipad mini. Win?
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patrickoneal said:
Edited to add: Thanks for the reply and the information.
Well, that sucks.
As far as I know, Google advertised this as working with Verizon when it was launched. Now they're saying next to nothing about it.
So, if I want to activate this as an add-on tablet at $10/month, I have to buy the Nexus 7, some other used Verizon tablet off ebay, activate it and swap the SIM. I may be incorrect, but I'd bet you couldn't sell off the other tablet and let someone else activate it using this method, unless the SIM isn't attached to the serial number in Verizon's system.
No offense intended, but I believe this is Verizon being stubborn. The tablet obviously functions on their network, but they aren't willing to supply a SIM and simply activate it.
Please let us know if you're successful in getting it activated without swapping a SIM from some other device. I can't be the only one interested in getting this going, but I'm not going to order one until I know it works.
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No offense taken, though let me clarify what I meant in my post by it being a technical limitation.
The serial numbers on the Nexus 7 are for GSM devices (IMEI's starting with 35xxx). Verizon's system does not recognize these serial numbers to work on their network. The system looks for ESN numbers (usually starting with 99000xxx) for a CDMA network, then asks for the ICCID (SIM ID) for the LTE SIM card. The Nexus 7 doesn't have a CDMA radio in it at all, which Verizon's network still needs in a device for it to complete the activation process.
Once activated, that SIM can be moved into another compatible device and work beautifully as Droid Life showed already, but that's not the issue we're having. Your described scenario is what I'm going to try for my buddy this weeked, but I have a feeling it won't work.
I don't think d11dog11's suggestion won't work either A) because the iPad Mini uses a nano SIM (4FF), B) because when the iPad is returned, the system defaults to disconnecting the number that was activated on that device, and C) you'll still get nailed with a restocking fee.
Indeed, this sucks!

LTE Results are in
Here's my download experience from a downtown San Francisco rooftop:
T-Mobile USA LTE:
SpeedTest: 43 ms 8.39 down 1.23 up Mb/s
signal: -104 dBm 36 asu rsrq -9 dB
T-Mobile HSPA:
SpeedTest: 73 ms 9.03 down 0.78 up Mb/s
signal: -104 dBm 35 asu rsrq -8 dB
Verizon Wireless:
SpeedTest: 196 ms 0.481 0.265 Mb/s <<== SUCKS BIG TIME! 2G Speed?
Signal -73 dBm 67 asu -12 dB
Comcast Wi-Fi: 18 ms 27.274 7.880
T-Mobile is on the higher frequency that would give spottier coverage, but they are doing quite alright.
Verizon sucks ass. A year ago everybody but Verizon looked like clowns. Today (starting about six months ago) the clown is Andy MacLeod, CTO of the Verizon Wireless partnership. How could they possibly fail?
San Francisco is the most densely populated area outside Manhattan, and this dude needs to pay attention. If you stay up until 1 am on a weekday, Verizon might give you 8 Mb/s down. The sucky area is not only downtown, as a matter of fact, I don't now of a good area anymore. A year ago it was 18 Mb/s greatness 24/7. There's crazy talk of a high-capacity overlay on band 4, but we got none of that, and one might wonder how this can go on for months on end. I canceled the day I got the Nexus 7 LTE. Nexus 5 will support everyone but Verizon, i'll get that one, too: hello Sprint!
The included T-Mobile SIM is a broadband pass that gives you 30 days/2 GB of HSPA or LTE but no voice.
Sensorly, SignalChecker and Open Signal are not good for speed test, so stick with SpeedTest.

PhoneGeek said:
Nexus 5 will support everyone but Verizon, i'll get that one, too: hello Sprint!
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One reason why it's less likely that Sprint will be supported on the same unlocked unit as GSM carriers: Sprint's LTE devices do not store the CDMA subcriber identity on the SIM card like Verizon does. Their Androids tend to have an internal non-removable SIM, and their iPhones have a SIM that only stores the LTE identity. So when two Verizon iPhone users swap SIMs, the phone numbers follow suit completely. When two Sprint iPhone users swap SIMs, the phone numbers remain on the devices but the LTE identities swap which must be confusing for the phone.

Nexus 5 on Sprint, AT&T and T-Mobile
The FCC publish on the Nexus 5 (LG D820) removes any doubt of it not being a Sprint phone. It’s a herkulean effort to support all their LTE bands, which I believe nobody has done yet. It quacks like an LG G2 but has a different display size from all other LG 8xx submissions. And then then was the KitKat leak, conveniently 2 days before the FCC published it, where there was an LG logo. Google must start shipping before Christmas, and September plus two months is November.
The likelihood that Google would put out a Sprint-only phone is zero.
The likelihood of Sprint kissing the feet of anyone putting out a Nexus phone on their network is really high.
The rest is engineering.

AT&T didn't work on LTE only HSPA+
I just bought hey Nexus 7 LTE from Best Buy yesterday.when I tried to activated through AT&T it activated but it only showed H in the signal strength menu bar. when I called AT&T customer supportTo provision it for LTE they said it wasn"t in their system and they wouldn't help me so I returned it.
needless to say I am very disappointed anybody else have the same issue?

oilpressure said:
I just bought hey Nexus 7 LTE from Best Buy yesterday.when I tried to activated through AT&T it activated but it only showed H in the signal strength menu bar. when I called AT&T customer supportTo provision it for LTE they said it wasn"t in their system and they wouldn't help me so I returned it.
needless to say I am very disappointed anybody else have the same issue?
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That's strange, considering there's an AT&T option on Play Store. You returned the tablet or cancelled the SIM?
You could try ordering from Play Store instead with the bundled AT&T SIM. Maybe that one will be provisioned properly for LTE.
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Picked up the new Nexus 7 LTE (2013 edition) and popped in my Verizon micro-SIM. Everything worked great for a few days. Just got a notification in my tray asking me to register my device with the Verizon Network? I clicked the link, it opened my browser and went to some Verizon site, but the page didn't load. I couldn't receive/send any data or even pick up a signal.
When I removed and re-insert the SIM and rebooted the device, it would pick up a cellular signal for a few minutes, then would drop signal.
I put the SIM back in my GS3, it registered with the network and got signal on the phone. I then re-inserted the SIM into the Nexus 7 and have LTE service once again.
Anyone else have this problem?

studiddie said:
Picked up the new Nexus 7 LTE (2013 edition) and popped in my Verizon micro-SIM. Everything worked great for a few days. Just got a notification in my tray asking me to register my device with the Verizon Network? I clicked the link, it opened my browser and went to some Verizon site, but the page didn't load. I couldn't receive/send any data or even pick up a signal.
When I removed and re-insert the SIM and rebooted the device, it would pick up a cellular signal for a few minutes, then would drop signal.
I put the SIM back in my GS3, it registered with the network and got signal on the phone. I then re-inserted the SIM into the Nexus 7 and have LTE service once again.
Anyone else have this problem?
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Bump I'm wondering this same thing had mine one day but wandering how long they will let it work?

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Bump I'm wondering this same thing had mine one day but wandering how long they will let it work?
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I've had mine in my tabet for about the past 5 days. The only thing that has changed is when I login to my VZW account, it shows an Unknown device. However, it still works. I am planning to leave my sim in for as long as it will let me. Great tablet.

AT&T LTE/ 4G issues on the Zenfone 2 (North Americal)

Here is the full cause of the issue after much research (probably an amalgamation of all the information above + some more)
When you pop in your 4G AT&T SIM and give AT&T the new IMEI (SIM1) to update in the database, they cannot 'see' this device as an LTE capable device and cannot activate/provision LTE for this phone, even though the phone supports all the required AT&T LTE Bands.
Arguing with them using logic is futile as even the most technologically adept 'Tech Support' representatives will repetitively claim, ''We can only guarantee LTE service on an AT&T device'' This is why you can only see H+ (HSPA+) on your device.
There are now two ways to proceed: (first make sure your APN settings or correct)
1) Use an older AT&T device (LTE capable), pop your SIM back into this device. Call customer care and ask them to update the IMEI to this older handset. Restart your phone, verify the LTE/4G signal on your notification bar/ confirm with LTE discovery/ (your favourite tool)
Now, take the sim card and re-insert it in your Zenfone 2. You should now see the '4G' icon on your Zenfone.
Note: AT&T will conduct occasional system-wide sweeps to verify if their SIM cards are actually inserted in the device whose IMEI they have registered and if not, they will update the IMEI on their database and you may lose 4G and rollback to HSPA+.
2) WAIT. I've spoken to Asus regarding the issue and this is a known issue to them. I've been told to expect a modem firmware update (no ETA - don't ask me) after which, somehow, this issue should not be a concern and AT&T will be able to provision the Zenfone 2 IMEI as an LTE capable device.
3) Some amazing workaround by a technically adept AT&T representative who can 'force' LTE registration to the device
4) You tell me.

Very informative regarding LTE provisioning on AT&T. In my experience, once they contenders and remove the LTE. a new SIM will need to be used to get back LTE. Even though the account is provisioned for LTE.
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AT&T stated they will be offering the ZenFone 2 soon with a contract.

That's crazy! There should be no need for these shenanigans on a GSM carrier. I'm sure the service is leaps better, but I did not have this problem on T-Mobile. I do have a prepaid SIM, so that could make all the difference.

Has to be an issue with certain ZP2's i used an att straightalk sim, and had no issue connecting to LTE at all, i just pop the sim in, searched for networks, registered on att added the straightalk att apns and boom done got full LTE signal on 06610.

Had the same issue with my Nexus 5 originally, a real hassle dealing with support to correct (especially on a corporate account). Currently waiting on ZF2 to arrive, but hoping this is corrected in the latest firmware:
"32. Using HW encode for 4G SKU."
http://www.asus.com/zentalk/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=12194&extra=page=1

I am tracking this thread and a related thread and wondering if I need to call AT&T and tell them to delete my ZF2's IMEI. I definitely am only showing H+ symbols and when I did a speed tests, uhm, tests definitely reveal I am not getting LTE speeds. AT&T tried to tell me I am seeing H+ symbol because the ZFT is not an AT&T branded product but I didn't really think this was true. H+ is not the worst of the worst and I really would notice it if I had two phones side by side, but I can live with it more or less if I have to, although yes-I want my LTE back if I can get it - the point is that the ZF2 is capable of LTE and I am very much still on an AT&T contract and honoring my contract on a line that has had LTE for at least 2 years or more now. I just merely bought my own phone this time and needed a new SIM card for it as I had nano on the last one. So-would telling AT&T to lose my IMEI and give me a new SIM put LTE on my ZF2? The APN information matches what is already listed so that is of no use-it seems universal to either H+ or LTE.

babsk said:
I am tracking this thread and a related thread and wondering if I need to call AT&T and tell them to delete my ZF2's IMEI. I definitely am only showing H+ symbols and when I did a speed tests, uhm, tests definitely reveal I am not getting LTE speeds. AT&T tried to tell me I am seeing H+ symbol because the ZFT is not an AT&T branded product but I didn't really think this was true. H+ is not the worst of the worst and I really would notice it if I had two phones side by side, but I can live with it more or less if I have to, although yes-I want my LTE back if I can get it - the point is that the ZF2 is capable of LTE and I am very much still on an AT&T contract and honoring my contract on a line that has had LTE for at least 2 years or more now. I just merely bought my own phone this time and needed a new SIM card for it as I had nano on the last one. So-would telling AT&T to lose my IMEI and give me a new SIM put LTE on my ZF2? The APN information matches what is already listed so that is of no use-it seems universal to either H+ or LTE.
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They need to have an LTE capable AT&T phone first. Then you can switch sim into the ZF2. Had to use my Lumia 635 imei. Unfortunately, once I swith to a non LTE phone, for example, my nexus 4, their system detects it and removes the LTE profile. So, I have to call them again if I want to get LTE on the ZF2.
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They need to have an LTE capable AT&T phone first. Then you can switch sim into the ZF2. Had to use my Lumia 635 imei. Unfortunately, once I swith to a non LTE phone, for example, my nexus 4, their system detects it and removes the LTE profile. So, I have to call them again if I want to get LTE on the ZF2.
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I have heard that before-hmmm. I would have needed a nano adapter to put the sim from my previous very LTE capable got LTE all the time Lumia phone first and didn't know that ahead of time. But
I did call them and my guess is I am being lied to that they gave me LTE? I now at least can prove it with speed tests and demand that they fix it but how do they do this is at this point
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