professional music player... try it
It brings better sound, but the front end is better of Poweramp
i can´t belive, a realy parametic equalizer !
has it better sound than stock music player (Im satisfied with it)
I think you need good ears and headphones to hear the sound difference.
Neutron uses 32 bit audio processing, it is better than Poweramp and stock SGS3 player's sound, but the app itself is is not that better
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I think you need good ears and headphones to hear the sound difference.
Neutron uses 32 bit audio processing, it is better than Poweramp and stock SGS3 player's sound, but the app itself is is not that better
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Actually, for me it is since I use the volume normalization feature that no other player has.
If you have a mix of different encodings with somewhat different effective volume, this feature will adjust the preamp setting for each file so you don't need to fool around with the volume rocker on each track
Are there any recommended settings to use with our beloved SGS3?
Is there an option to have more volume-steps for the SGS3? The volume is rather high (even on lowest volume-bar) for me... I wish I could adjust the volume more precise...
U can adjust preamp on most good players,like poweramp-neutron-playerpro,they all have adjustable preamp...or wait for supercurio to release voodoo sound.he boost and modify the wolfson dac (sound chip) and the improvement he makes is "over the top" fantastic and it also contains a preamp
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Does anyone feel like poweramps bass is always too strong or is it just me? I've been usingpoweramp for a very long time and my equalizer is set to how I like it but lately even with all the bass settings to the lowest, bass is always too strong and it messes up the song. I thought it was my headphones but when I connected my phone to my car which also has an equalizer saved specifically for it the bass was too powerful. I just tried apollo and it seems to be a lot better. Is anyone else having problems with poweramp bass?
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Poweramp seems to be working fine for me.
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custom rom / kernel = voodoo sound
you could try going a different route for bass... voodoo sound, if you haven't already.
we have one of the best sound chips for any phone in our Epic 4g's, and it can use a special kernel-level sound driver, voodoo sound.
for voodoo sound to work, you need to run a voodoo sound enabled kernel (effsi makes one, compatible with CM 10.1 and/or slim rom, the two best Epic roms IMHO.
then with that in place, you can run voodoo sound (free) from play store. it has a bass adjustment setting that works at the kernel level, so applies to all programs I believe, and in a different way then regular EQ like in poweramp.
BTW, another program to check out for audio that is supposed to make MP3 sound better, by using more CPU to over/extra sample, is Neutron MP. I can hear a noticable difference playing music through it, and bought the pay version. I am on monster turbines, with custom fit made earplugs from Radians custom mold plastic ($10, google).
Ya I'm pretty sure poweramp has something to do with it because I tested it on my cousins epic who had the same bass problem as me with his headphones and regular speaker and apollo doesn't have a blown out bass or the disorted sound.
I already use voodoo and know that it effecs my headphones but I understand what the problem that I'm having is. I'm pretty sure poweramp is my problem but I'm not sure why exactly.
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weird
please let us know if you figure it out.
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you could try going a different route for bass... voodoo sound, if you haven't already.
we have one of the best sound chips for any phone in our Epic 4g's, and it can use a special kernel-level sound driver, voodoo sound.
for voodoo sound to work, you need to run a voodoo sound enabled kernel (effsi makes one, compatible with CM 10.1 and/or slim rom, the two best Epic roms IMHO.
then with that in place, you can run voodoo sound (free) from play store. it has a bass adjustment setting that works at the kernel level, so applies to all programs I believe, and in a different way then regular EQ like in poweramp.
BTW, another program to check out for audio that is supposed to make MP3 sound better, by using more CPU to over/extra sample, is Neutron MP. I can hear a noticable difference playing music through it, and bought the pay version. I am on monster turbines, with custom fit made earplugs from Radians custom mold plastic ($10, google).
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Neutron MP really sounds different from the rest, thanks for the heads up!
Hello, I am looking for the best overall settings on my DSP Manager. I listen to mostly house and techno music. I am on SGH T989 CM 10.1. With Apollo music player. Thanks in Advance.
In my opinion the best setting...
ifoxd007 said:
Hello, I am looking for the best overall settings on my DSP Manager. I listen to mostly house and techno music. I am on SGH T989 CM 10.1. With Apollo music player. Thanks in Advance.
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...because of the saturated bass and the clear voice
It's a reason why i can't stay at stock with my nexus
You've got a screenshot which shows my config... (Dynamic Range is Disabled)
(Headset Virtual Room is disabled) (Bass Boost is sat at moderate) (Loudness at strongest) (Equalizer... Look at the attachment )
Don't use DSP
Do yourself a favor and pickup poweramp. I use the paid version even and it is great. Built in equalizer with a bunch of presets and you can adjust them while listening to get the best sound. You can also setup a bunch of custom presets to load based on song or if you using phone speaker or headphones. Just my opinion, I always freeze DSP with titanium backup when I load new ROM's.
I strongly recommend you to ditch DSP and install Viper4Android, which is DSP on steroid if you will.
There's a long thread about it here on XDA.
Using Viper with Poweramp and getting exceptional sound quality!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191223
My Settings:
(Poweramp)
Tone disabled
Equalizer disabled
MusicFX enabled and mapped to Viper4Android
StereoFX disabled
(Viper)
UI Setting Expert
All settings default except:
Viper Bass Enabled
Bass mode Natural Bass, 50hz, 12db
Viper Clarity Enabled
Clarity mode XHiFi, 3.5db
From there you can adjust to your likings, I'm not even touching the equalizer, I get good natural bass and strong mids.
Worth a try!
Hi guys,
so one thing has been bothering me since I plugged my earphones into my Z1C - the sound quality. I used to own a Walkman mp3 player and I loved its sound quality, but it's less than half of that in my phone. I don't get as many bass if any at all when using crystal clear sound or whatever it's called. If I manually turn the bass down, it increases by a small amount, but the overall sound quality goes down significantly. Is this a common problem? (or a problem at all?) What do you think? Do you enjoy your music experience or do you try to fight it? Is there any way to make music sound better without installing any 3rd party players?
Have a nice day.
Comparing to sgs 2 for me crap... Sound from my Sgs2 was much much better on same headphones
mosespl said:
Comparing to sgs 2 for me crap... Sound from my Sgs2 was much much better on same headphones
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Exactly the same story here.
The clear audio + mode sounds terrible in my opinion. I'm using the Unique and bass boost equalizer presets in sound enhancements. They sound much closer to my Walkman.
if you have root you can install viper fx and inside it there is an option to configure a lot of thing and mod sound in headphone i dont use it but everyone in viper fx thread confirm that it makes a miracle so maybe it's worth to try
Pathetic Sound Quality
Is there any mod to get deeper bass & clear highs????
Try:
- Viper4Android: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191223
- eXtremeBeats: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2634729
Wasn't planning to root at the moment. However problem solved - Poweramp.
How are people dealing with the audio problems on the Mi Max? It is affecting the Global MIUI 7&8 and the China MIUI 8 ROM. Xiaomi has done nothing despite many complaining on the MIUI forums for months. Even the latest ROM has the same problems.
The output through the headphone jack is half the volume it should be. You can easily listen to YouTube at full volume and it's not even loud. Also the sound quality is appalling with quiet vocals and heavy bass even without using the system EQ (which crashes anyway in MIUI 7). There is also a noticeable hissing/static though headphones for a few seconds before and after a system sound plays, but listening to music doesn't have the same problem.
Considering its a standard Qualcomm DAC used in many phones its terrible what Xiaomi has done to mess up the output. My Mediatek powered phone from 2012 sounds so superior and with the Mi Max being a media consumption aimed phone it's a real poor effort.
I believe the phone is taking a low internal DAC output (caused by a bug) and amplifying it hence the distorted sound and low max volume. It's the only thing I'm extremely disappointed with and wondered how others are handling the issue?
By ditching MIUI...!?
Does the Mi Max not have these issues running CM etc?
I'm sure many are currently using MIUI and I won't be ditching it at least until the years warranty is up, also want to see what MIUI 9 is like based on Nougat.
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Does the Mi Max not have these issues running CM etc?
I'm sure many are currently using MIUI and I won't be ditching it at least until the years warranty is up, also want to see what MIUI 9 is like based on Nougat.
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Except some low volume issues which are fixed now haven't heard of much complains...
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Except some low volume issues which are fixed now haven't heard of much complains...
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https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=m...i+max+sound+problems+site:en.miui.com&start=0
F27 said:
How are people dealing with the audio problems on the Mi Max? It is affecting the Global MIUI 7&8 and the China MIUI 8 ROM. Xiaomi has done nothing despite many complaining on the MIUI forums for months. Even the latest ROM has the same problems.
The output through the headphone jack is half the volume it should be. You can easily listen to YouTube at full volume and it's not even loud. Also the sound quality is appalling with quiet vocals and heavy bass even without using the system EQ (which crashes anyway in MIUI 7). There is also a noticeable hissing/static though headphones for a few seconds before and after a system sound plays, but listening to music doesn't have the same problem.
Considering its a standard Qualcomm DAC used in many phones its terrible what Xiaomi has done to mess up the output. My Mediatek powered phone from 2012 sounds so superior and with the Mi Max being a media consumption aimed phone it's a real poor effort.
I believe the phone is taking a low internal DAC output (caused by a bug) and amplifying it hence the distorted sound and low max volume. It's the only thing I'm extremely disappointed with and wondered how others are handling the issue?
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I can confirm the low headphone volume bug exists for some media/music player apps on the miui 8 global rom. However, there's an easy workaround. Open Google play music app and play an audio file in that app. Increase the headphone volume from that app beyond the 'Warning: high volume can damage hearing' volume level. Leave the headphone volume at the highest setting. Close Google play music app. The next time you play audio in your preferred media player (other than Google play music), it should already be fixed. If you don't have Google play music, you can download it from Google Play store.
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https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=m...i+max+sound+problems+site:en.miui.com&start=0
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That wasn't necessary... I am well aware of all things about Mi Max from day one.
And you were asking about CM so...
I thought my new earphones were faulty when I used them in my Mi Max. I was going to give them away but then I read about sound problems on Mi Max. Both my xiaomi phones have poor sound quality, mi4 always had poor quiet sound.
The low volume has been fixed for me on g8
There's some cracking but that's sorted by clean cache in the play music app there's also a equaliser in the app settings
This is a workaround for get high volume during listening to music by using IEM/Headphone. Only work with poweramp v3 alpha build 703/704
(Please Google it for APK. It's free in Poweramp forum)
Install poweramp v3 alpha, go to setting > resampler.
Select resampler type > SoX
Resampler cutoff frequency ratio > 97% ~ 99%
Dither > Improved e-weighted noise shaping (Poweramp indicate it slow but actually it fast enough)
Tap back button and select Hi-Res Output and then turn on Wired headset/aux (it will upsampled lossy format thus higher volume and audio quality improved a little bit. Another thing is make sure the 24-bit Snapdragon DAC is activated during listening session).
WARNING: Lower the volume at 20% or lower before activating Hi-Res output during playback. Trust me you'll thanks me later xD
If you can hear distorted sound at high volume, go to replay gain (RG), set preamp for songs without RG info to -7dB. (Just to make sure the sound is not clipping).
The Mi Max audio quality is pretty good even the DAC is just an integrated DAC.
In the screenshot is DSD128 playback. Working but it was downsampled. As for 24bit/96kHz source, it will upsampled to 192kHz.
Thank you for the replies. I have tried upping to volume in Google Play Music and it did increase the volume in other apps by around 20% so it's a start and thank you for the tip but it's still not really near the quality and loudness it should be for a stock Qualcomm 652 DAC. I will give the V3 Poweramp beta trick a try. I am currently using the Poweramp Pro to listen to music and the Mi Max sounds poor.
Basically Xiaomi need to go through how MIUI is handling audio and overhaul it imo, and hopefully version 9 won't need any of these work arounds because I've never had trouble on other budget phones... or I'm off to another ROM!
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Thank you for the replies. I have tried upping to volume in Google Play Music and it did increase the volume in other apps by around 20% so it's a start and thank you for the tip but it's still not really near the quality and loudness it should be for a stock Qualcomm 652 DAC. I will give the V3 Poweramp beta trick a try. I am currently using the Poweramp Pro to listen to music and the Mi Max sounds poor.
Basically Xiaomi need to go through how MIUI is handling audio and overhaul it imo, and hopefully version 9 won't need any of these work arounds because I've never had trouble on other budget phones... or I'm off to another ROM!
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If you want more loudness still, louder than what the stock MIUI 8 can give you, I suggest you install music players with a 'pre-amp'. Neutron is one of my favorites among 'audiophile' grade music players (though I like BSPlayer more due to its multimedia capabilities). You can download the trial version of 'Neutron' at Google playstore (or purchase the full version if you are satisfied with the player.) Here are screenshots of Neutron music player where the pre-amp was adjusted (above zero) so as to increase the Mi Max's maximum attainable headphone volume (without buying an external portable headphone amp). Please note that too high a pre-amp setting can cause audio clipping which results to bad sound quality.
As to sound quality, yes the Mi Max headphone sound quality is really poor out of the box (MIUI 8). I have an Audio technica ATH-M50s/LE headphones which I used to listen to FLAC music on my previous Huawei Mate 7 phone. The sound quality was just ethereal. It's like listening to live musicians. I missed the headphone sound quality on my Mate 7 [DTS enabled] using the Audio technica as my headphones and BSPlayer as my preferred player (highlights the Audio Technica's strengths). Anyway, when I changed to the Mi Max, I used the same Audio Technica headphones only to be disappointed. I found out the Mi Max can't quite match the Mate 7's music reproduction [headphone DTS enabled] using the same music player (BSPlayer) or any music player for that matter. Fortunately, the Mi Max comes with headphone settings and a built in equalizer. Did a little experimentation and came up with the following settings that managed to somehow 'resemble' what my previous Mate 7 phone was able to deliver with regard to sound quality. Please note your mileage may vary depending on the quality of the headphones you use and your preferred media or music player:
1. Set Mi sound enhancer to 'ON'. Choose 'Mi headphones'.
2. Set the equalizer as follows:
These settings should improve the Mi Max's sound quality tremendously... Well, at least from my experience --- using the same Audio technica headphones and BSPlayer music player as audio player. I've saved the custom equalizer settings above as 'Mate7' because it reminds me of the sound quality of my previous Mate 7 phone. It's not a perfect match, but at least it comes close. Please note you really need good quality over-the-ear headphones if you want to overcome the Mi Max's 'poor headphone audio' shortcomings. Alternate headphones that I have thoroughly listened to and would also highly recommend are the B&W P7 and Sennheiser Momentums. I would have bought the B&W P7 had I not auditioned the Audio Technica side-by-side it and the Sennheiser Momentums. If you are serious about audio but can't give up the Mi Max for another phone with better audio components, then the recommendations above are about as good as the Mi Max can get.
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If you want more loudness still, louder than what the stock MIUI 8 can give you, I suggest you install music players with a 'pre-amp'. Neutron is one of my favorites among 'audiophile' grade music players (though I like BSPlayer more due to its multimedia capabilities). You can download the trial version of 'Neutron' at Google playstore (or purchase the full version if you are satisfied with the player.) Here are screenshots of Neutron music player where the pre-amp was adjusted (above zero) so as to increase the Mi Max's maximum attainable headphone volume (without buying an external portable headphone amp). Please note that too high a pre-amp setting can cause audio clipping which results to bad sound quality.
As to sound quality, yes the Mi Max headphone sound quality is really poor out of the box (MIUI 8). I have an Audio technica ATH-M50s/LE headphones which I used to listen to FLAC music on my previous Huawei Mate 7 phone. The sound quality was just ethereal. It's like listening to live musicians. I missed the headphone sound quality on my Mate 7 [DTS enabled] using the Audio technica as my headphones and BSPlayer as my preferred player (highlights the Audio Technica's strengths). Anyway, when I changed to the Mi Max, I used the same Audio Technica headphones only to be disappointed. I found out the Mi Max can't quite match the Mate 7's music reproduction [headphone DTS enabled] using the same music player (BSPlayer) or any music player for that matter. Fortunately, the Mi Max comes with headphone settings and a built in equalizer. Did a little experimentation and came up with the following settings that managed to somehow 'resemble' what my previous Mate 7 phone was able to deliver with regard to sound quality. Please note your mileage may vary depending on the quality of the headphones you use and your preferred media or music player:
1. Set Mi sound enhancer to 'ON'. Choose 'Mi headphones'.
2. Set the equalizer as follows:
These settings should improve the Mi Max's sound quality tremendously... Well, at least from my experience --- using the same Audio technica headphones and BSPlayer music player as audio player. I've saved the custom equalizer settings above as 'Mate7' because it reminds me of the sound quality of my previous Mate 7 phone. It's not a perfect match, but at least it comes close. Please note you really need good quality over-the-ear headphones if you want to overcome the Mi Max's 'poor headphone audio' shortcomings. Alternate headphones that I have thoroughly listened to and would also highly recommend are the B&W P7 and Sennheiser Momentums. I would have bought the B&W P7 had I not auditioned the Audio Technica side-by-side it and the Sennheiser Momentums. If you are serious about audio but can't give up the Mi Max for another phone with better audio components, then the recommendations above are about as good as the Mi Max can get.
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FYI, the audio quality pretty impressive with IEM (Audio Technica ATH-IM50 and Trinity Audio Engineering Delta). You feel the sound is not quite loud enough because of internal amp suck. Mi Max can't handle high impedance headphone like yours (ATH-M50X). To overcome your problem, you have to pair your Mi Max with portable amp such as fiio e11k.
btw, didnt you noticed your source is clipping too much across low freq??
Actually the 'Neutron' screenshots did not show any headphones attached. The music was played on Mi Max's loudspeakers which can't reproduce low frequency so you can't hear the clipped low frequency sounds. The recording is actually only piano, vocals and cymbals. The low frequency is from instrument feedback (low frequency hum). On my ATH-M50s/LE headphones, that volume level would have been half as much since 100% is already too loud, eliminating the low frequency clipping. I don't need an external amp for my headphones. They're loud enough for me except for some Chesky recordings.
At the end of the day we shouldn't need to do any of these fixes and tweaks to make the sound from the Mi Max reasonable, Xiaomi should fix it but it seems they have very poor customer service when it comes to feedback and bugs. This Qualcomm DAC chipset is in many phones yet they don't have sound quality and loudness issues. I don't expect perfection but the Mi Max out of the box sounds worse than by budget Mediatek powered phone from 4 years ago!
i modded the mixer_paths files to make the sound louder. My roms all include this already. You need to make sure in your build.prop that fluence is enabled by making sure there is a line that says ro.qc.sdk.audio.fluencetype=fluence and make sure the two lines persist.audio.fluence.voicecall and persist.audio.fluence.speaker are set to true. Then flash this in twrp or replace your three mixer paths files in system/etc with the ones in the zip file.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5I_q70mNuR4c1pxODNpTk12Y2M/view?usp=sharing
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FYI, the audio quality pretty impressive with IEM (Audio Technica ATH-IM50 and Trinity Audio Engineering Delta). You feel the sound is not quite loud enough because of internal amp suck. Mi Max can't handle high impedance headphone like yours (ATH-M50X). To overcome your problem, you have to pair your Mi Max with portable amp such as fiio e11k.
btw, didnt you noticed your source is clipping too much across low freq??
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Try out Foobar2000 (available on the Play Store, free & open source) instead of Neutron & you can skip the entire default sound processing with usage of the Open SL sound output & you will find a built in DSP section mostly sufficient. I am against modifying sound picture to much & as much as I sow in GSM Arena review the output sound picture is almost perfect & thick behind iPhone 6s (I plan to buy Max now). Rest is mostly influenced by quality of sound source & used headphones. For more well use dedicated external DAC & Amp.
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i modded the mixer_paths files to make the sound louder. My roms all include this already. You need to make sure in your build.prop that fluence is enabled by making sure there is a line that says ro.qc.sdk.audio.fluencetype=fluence and make sure the two lines persist.audio.fluence.voicecall and persist.audio.fluence.speaker are set to true. Then flash this in twrp or replace your three mixer paths files in system/etc with the ones in the zip file.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5I_q70mNuR4c1pxODNpTk12Y2M/view?usp=sharing
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Would actually rather increase (in small steps) output volume
In <!-- Play Scenario --> section for headphones & speaker if I whose you.
Don't exaggerate with it!
Best regards.
I did the opposite and reduced headphone volume to get rid of the hissing. I had the same problem on the Note 3 Pro, on MIUI 8 and CM13/CM14, so it's down to how the Qualcomm mixers are configured. By reducing gain and turning off companders you're dropping the noise floor. The drawback is that headphone volume is low, so this hack only works well with low impedance IEMs like Xiaomi Pistons.
1. Get rooted, open up all mixer_path_*.xml files in /system/etc.
2. Change HPHL Volume and HPHR Volume to a low value like 2.
3. Change any Comp* Switch values to 0.
4. Change RX HPH Mode to CLS_H_HIFI
5. Reboot and enjoy.
My own solution - Use VLC. Fixes the volume problem well - after you set the Audio Output to ES
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My own solution - Use VLC. Fixes the volume problem well - after you set the Audio Output to ES
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Use Foobar2000 instead, VLC is bad when it comes to music.
So in Settings - Sounds and Vibrations - Advanced sound settings - sound quality and effects, you can tweak the sound coming out of the speakers.
I've got it set like this.... It adds a bit of depth so the output isn't quite so harsh when I watch YouTube videos... But it isn't perfect (lost a lot of volume)
Has anyone else played with the equalizer? What are your settings?
This is mine
A50 paired with takstar hi1200
Eq
I prefer my mids a little bit lower than every thing else but I do have all of them up a bit with 96kbs and 32 sample rate, I don't know how to post pictures on mobile but I have (left to right) +3,+2,+2.5,+2.5, +2.5,+3,+4. But this is with a HiFi headset that allows 1136kbs so I also use Dolby Atmos Premium to upscale the audio
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I prefer my mids a little bit lower than every thing else but I do have all of them up a bit with 96kbs and 32 sample rate, I don't know how to post pictures on mobile but I have (left to right) +3,+2,+2.5,+2.5, +2.5,+3,+4. But this is with a HiFi headset that allows 1136kbs so I also use Dolby Atmos Premium to upscale the audio
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Im in love with your Eq Preset dude!!, more vibrant + with apps equalizer + dolby atmos
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