Hi,
I plan to buy XL instead of HOX. (I am in Singapore, Singtel offers HOX and XL)
i have 2 questions:
1. Can I apply all the modifications intended for HOX to XL?
2. If no, I dont see any forum for XL, Do you recommend to get HOX instead?
I think XL has LTE, so the ROMs of HOX will not fit and probably rooting is not the same because the XL is in this forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1538
The AT&T One X forum is for the phone internationally known as the One XL. The One XL has different hardware and radios, so none of the stuff made for the One X will be compatible.
It was pretty stupid of AT&T (and HTC) to call the AT&T version One X. AT&T One X is clearly a OneXL variant (they are not identical). HTC One X (the global one) is completely different hardware.
So there are 3 phones, 2 very similar (dualcores, AT&T and One XL) and 1 completely diff (quad-core tegra3).
One XL vs AT&T One X(L).
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4614&idPhone2=4572
As per your original question, if modifications are very important to you, do first look in "AT&T One X/OneXL" forum and see how the rom scene looks over there. From rom development standpoint, international OneX is better bet but personal opinion, One XL is better phone (sadly not available here in Norway).
asestar said:
It was pretty stupid of AT&T (and HTC) to call the AT&T version One X. AT&T One X is clearly a OneXL variant (they are not identical).
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One XL released much later, but I agree
There were rumours about XL but I didn't think it would come that fast and would had wait for it.
And its the same story with other phones, like Galaxy S3. AT&T version is a dual-core qualcomm s4 based instead of a quadcore. What the hell is wrong with this carrier?
A few years ago htc/samsung renamed their phones for usa, with different look/exterior but same hardware (desire/droid incredible, hero/eris, sensation/amaze/vivid, galaxy s/vibrant/fascinate etc).
And now they go out of their way to have different hardware that looks identical with exact same name..
Thanks.
I guess I better choose HOX over XL.
4G is new in this area,
and development of XL pretty slow and boring, i think.
I posted same question in AT&T forum, till now nobody reply and give the difference.
I found many active roms developer here.
Roms are lovelier here, and more to choose from.
I read more problems, than fixes and good news over there.
no i dont think so,
both have different specs..
btw is it out yet the XL in singapore?how much did it cost?
I have few clarifications to help me decide if a certain rom (or rooting instruction) is applicable to my phone.
(because I dont know if HOX from ATT is applicable to XL from Singtel.)
Lets say I want to do rooting or install custom rom;
What are the BASIC criteria in order for me to say that this rom (or rooting instruction) is applicable to my phone and it wont brick it (if it may brick it)?
What should I check first?
. cpu type? (dual core, quad core?, S4, tegra? where can I find this specs in my phone)
. Firmware version? (1.72, 1.85, 1.?? How do I check again)
. radio??
AFAIK radio is different between ATT and XL (international),
but is ROM still applicable on both even if radio is different?
What the hell/difference of Rogers HTC one X by the way?
I appreciate the response.
General consensus from reviews on the web say XL or Snapdragon One X are faster than Tegra One Xs and are better at battery life.
Community of the S4 seems growing every day I am sure it will have plenty of development, already it has most of the same tweaks as with Tegra ones.
I also was undecided as both work on my country. However, I decided for the Tegra one due to:
1. Easier bootloader unlocking vs AT&T One X
2. Cheaper than imported Rogers/Telus unlocked One X
3. Tegra Zone games: I am not a gamer but I am enjoying the quality of Tegra games
4. Resale value: yes in my country most people will prefer a QuadCore 32 MB than a Dual Core 16 MB phone . They dont know the story behind it unless they are geeks so resale value will hold over time vs SGS3.
asestar said:
And its the same story with other phones, like Galaxy S3. AT&T version is a dual-core qualcomm s4 based instead of a quadcore. What the hell is wrong with this carrier?
A few years ago htc/samsung renamed their phones for usa, with different look/exterior but same hardware (desire/droid incredible, hero/eris, sensation/amaze/vivid, galaxy s/vibrant/fascinate etc).
And now they go out of their way to have different hardware that looks identical with exact same name..
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AT&T (and every other LTE carrier) has to use dual core s4 versions of CPU because quad core exynos and tegra3 dont support LTE.
They are now using different hardware with exact same names probably to avoid customer confusion and having 10 variants of the same phone.
Furma said:
AT&T (and every other LTE carrier) has to use dual core s4 versions of CPU because quad core exynos and tegra3 dont support LTE.
They are now using different hardware with exact same names probably to avoid customer confusion and having 10 variants of the same phone.
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Excellent point, and yes I believe you are right. However I doubt having 2 different hardwares with same name is any less confusing.
Furma said:
AT&T (and every other LTE carrier) has to use dual core s4 versions of CPU because quad core exynos and tegra3 dont support LTE.
They are now using different hardware with exact same names probably to avoid customer confusion and having 10 variants of the same phone.
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This is true to an extent. I believe tegra does support lte but it requires a separate modem whereas with the s4 the LTE modem is part of the SoC already.
Tbh I would prefer the s4 chip as it rapes the tegra in most benchmarks and battery is better. Htc and nvidia are full of crap, the companion core and all the other "battery saving" tweaks htc implemented (like completely breaking multitasking) are pointless as they just try to make up for the fact htc short changed us with the size of the battery in the HOX. The battery life still sucks.. They should have just put a bigger battery in in the first place a la galaxy s3.. /rant
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Have the vivid love it the only downside is the terrible sound quality... Thinking of upgrading to the one x when it comes out have looked and saw no other major phone releases this year that would come close to the one x.. thoughts comments. Welcome.
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I would do it! I am on Sprint and would most likely go for the EVO 4G LTE, a variant of the One X. Just know that the phone will be very limited as far as unlocking goes. Check out the current discussion in the One X forum, and read here on my blog: http://goo.gl/3T4NK
Im waiting for s3 release, and for Huawei Ascend d quad user expirience
it will keep no1 til s3 is out.
All sgs3 needs to beat one x is a sdcard slot + removable batt options
Their sgs2 already beaten one x to camera picture quality, battery + storage options
i have a feeling sgs3 is gonna look like gnex with buttons.. so they can mass produce with win8 version in mind
Anyway .. yea wait till 3 may before deciding on anything.
I got the one x and I love it. Only downside is over in the development forum for my new phone no one can do anything with the U.S. version right now since AT&T refuses to unlock bootloader so if you can live without 4g lte I'd go for the non u.s. version who know when we will get root etc on u.s. version.... Boo AT&T
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eletro said:
All sgs3 needs to beat one x is a sdcard slot + removable batt options
Their sgs2 already beaten one x to camera picture quality
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The HOX camera is better, but the camera APP is worse. Just use a third party camera app
imagesense is best camera suite among all phone....
x...
eraste said:
I got the one x and I love it. Only downside is over in the development forum for my new phone no one can do anything with the U.S. version right now since AT&T refuses to unlock bootloader so if you can live without 4g lte I'd go for the non u.s. version who know when we will get root etc on u.s. version.... Boo AT&T
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Yeah i am taking my at&t one back in the morning and ordered me a International off Amazon. I dont have LTE here anyway so was just getting 2.5-3 speeds which is what i get on my International Note. Down loading ROMS for its delivery in 2 days now
So this past month I have spent One X-less. I live in the US and got my One X April 10 and loved it dearly. It's serial was SH23. Long story short, I started having an issue where the screen wouldn't display anything but it was still responsive to touch. I opened a ticket with HTC and they took it in under the Global Warranty.
Just a heads up to any other US users out there with an T3 One X, it's 20 bucks plus shipping just for them to look at it for you. Plus, if they need to order parts it takes a lot longer than their 7-10 business days. I sent my device in on April 20, and today ( 7 JUN ) I just now got my tracking number for them sending me a One X back.
Also, FIGHT TO KEEP YOUR INTERNATIONAL VERSION. They are going to tell you that they can ONLY send you back a US Version. That is simply not true. If anyone is in this situation, PM me and I will give you the contact number to RMA Escalations and the name of the Public Relations manager you need to ask for.
Back to my story, I ended up with a bad motherboard according to HTC's subsidized repair center in Buffalo, NY. It was unlocked through HTC Dev and had been through a few flashes and kernels.
This could be good news because they did not find me at fault and they're sending me a replacement device under S/N HT245. Even though I only started experiencing that issue after flashing an early release of a kernel.
This may just be a horror story, but it can easily happen to you. HTC isn't too fond of us having the One X here in America because it forces them to order parts for 2 different phones.
If anyone is having any issues in the US with their T3 One X, drop me a PM.
in Europe the one xl is about e100 more expensive than the one x
godutch said:
in Europe the one xl is about e100 more expensive than the one x
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I wouldnt switch to the XL if they paid me 200e
T3 is the best thing about this device
the reason why the xl is,more expensive is the troubled 28nm production and the s4 shortage
hamdir said:
I wouldnt switch to the XL if they paid me 200e
T3 is the best thing about this device
the reason why the xl is,more expensive is the troubled 28nm production and the s4 shortage
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I would have, I even thought about having the One XL shipped from Australia but then I decided against it because I didn't want to end up with an expensive device only to come to the conclusion it might be incompatible with the european gsm, edge 3g hdspa(+) networks. I gave the One S to my GF, it is just a much smoother more responsive device which can easily last 3 days on battery.
godutch said:
I would have, I even thought about having the One XL shipped from Australia but then I decided against it because I didn't want to end up with an expensive device only to come to the conclusion it might be incompatible with the european gsm, edge 3g hdspa(+) networks. I gave the One S to my GF, it is just a much smoother more responsive device which can easily last 3 days on battery.
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i give you the battery, as for smoothness and speed, they match once you optimize your HOX
stock kernel + ultra rosie + supercharger, my HOX is liquid smooth minus the occasional micro stutter
you all keep forgetting the s4 is overkill on the One S since it runs @ QHD
not the case @720p the T3 GPU beats it at this density
as for T3 games there is no match what so ever
its simple for gamers the T3 version is "devine"
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i give you the battery, as for smoothness and speed, they match once you optimize your HOX
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But if you optimize the one s it will be even smoother, point is it's a lot smoother and more responsive out of the box than the hox
you all keep forgetting the s4 is overkill on the One S since it runs @ QHD
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Even in the off screen tests (where the native resulution doesn't matter) the one s beats the hox
as for T3 games there is no match what so ever
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am not a mobile gamer but in the sgs2 tegra games could be run with chainfire3d, with the paid version of chainfire3d you are also able to access the tegra store
godutch said:
But if you optimize the one s it will be even smoother, point is it's a lot smoother and more responsive out of the box than the hox
Even in the off screen tests (where the native resulution doesn't matter) the one s beats the hox
am not a mobile gamer but in the sgs2 tegra games could be run with chainfire3d, with the paid version of chainfire3d you are also able to access the tegra store
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both your 2nd n 3rd argument are dead wrong
long story to prove it for u but its all in the mega thread
chainfire can not enable quad optimized games like shadowgun n it rarely works bug free
the gpu is not a match the t3 has much more capable pixel shaders and no adreno 225 doesn't win the benches only a few
godutch said:
I would have, I even thought about having the One XL shipped from Australia but then I decided against it because I didn't want to end up with an expensive device only to come to the conclusion it might be incompatible with the european gsm, edge 3g hdspa(+) networks. I gave the One S to my GF, it is just a much smoother more responsive device which can easily last 3 days on battery.
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The one xl should work in Europe I'm from Australia and sent my cousin a one xl in Belgium
I'd have to agree with hamdir on the t3 and gaming you can't beat it
I only bought the one xl because its one of the few proper phones in Australia with LTE
Yo hamdir if you see this love your Rosie mod work bro! Rosie's an integral part of my phone, can't go back using without it lol
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Slightly off topic...
Anyways, update:
I recieved A One X back today (8 JUN). I sent in a grey one and they sent me back a white. Also, after looking it over of course there's a dim dead pixel too :/ Also was promised the WWE and mine is running the European Firmware.
This may seem like I'm complaining, but actually I feel like I came out on top on this one. It's a refurb clearly, but I don't see any orange spots like my grey one had and this one has the blue tint over the yellow. No gaps or flex or ripples or creaking. Plus it's unlocked (SIM not S-Off :/) No bloat like my WWE had also when I bought my One X white was more expensive than grey.
So it seems like they've fixed the initial problems people were having. Again though, I cant say I recommend anyone in the US sending in their phone unless it's dire. They're going to try and $#%! you.
May I ask you OP something?
My HOX also had the same issue on the screen not lightning up, but with touch still working. You said it was a motherboard issue? HTC support here in Norway did not know anything about the issue, nor my carrier company whom I bought the phone from.
Im still currently waiting for my replacement, so I havent heard anything from the store that is supposed to get my phone fixed or what the issue is.
Mine was running all stock, not unlocked with a HT23 serial (I think).
Best regards
sebbooo said:
May I ask you OP something?
My HOX also had the same issue on the screen not lightning up, but with touch still working. You said it was a motherboard issue? HTC support here in Norway did not know anything about the issue, nor my carrier company whom I bought the phone from.
Im still currently waiting for my replacement, so I havent heard anything from the store that is supposed to get my phone fixed or what the issue is.
Mine was running all stock, not unlocked with a HT23 serial (I think).
Best regards
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That's what NA told me at least. I didn't send mine to a carrier though, I sent it directly to HTC. From what I gathered from my conversations with various support staff is that they replaced the screen itself first but that didn't fix the issue so they were going to replace the motherboard. However the price of the motherboard is probably more expensive than just sending me a replacement phone and international HOX aren't readily availible in North America so that's how I got the replacement device. Odd that we had a similar serial number though, minus the fact that my old one was a China made and yours a Taiwan.
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Hello guys I just have a couple of questions and maybe if you guys need to let me know some things I would appreciate the further insight. I have flashed roms before and this time I am just going to leave the phone as it is but it is more about what was done to this device and what could be causing some very minor issues with the play store. This device was rooted and unlocked by the previous owner and is working great. I been trying to download the Tegra Zone application and it says that my device is not compatible with that version. In fact I have it in my downloads history from another phone. When I search for it it doesn't appear in the market. Is there anything that is causing this HTC one x from ATT to not be recognized properly. If you need me to provide some minor information I would be glad to. At this moment I can only provide that is unlocked, rooted, and running version 4.0.4.
Well, unfortunately you do not have a tegra soc under the hood. AT&T One X is different and it has a dual core cpu.
Are you saying that the Htc One x doesn't have a Tegra 3?
You are sayin' that you have an AT&T One X. That means you have evita version which comes with dual core snapdragon, not tegra 3. Go to settings -> hardware info, what does it say? Or go to bootloader, does it say endeavoru or evita on the top line?
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Are you saying that the Htc One x doesn't have a Tegra 3?
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Not the HOX, the AT&T HOX, the international HOX has tegra 3! But the AT&T one doenst have it and it only have 2 cores xD
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Hi,
I ask here for your help because I am planning to buy a new phone in the near future, and I am currently deciding between the One S with Snapdragon S4 and the One X with Tegra 3.
I would be very, very grateful if someone could tell me which one is better from the perspective of custom ROM development. Which one has more stable and less buggy CyanogenMod or similar AOSP-based ROMs? I've been lurking here in the One S and One X sections for some time and I can see that neither of those two phones is bugless, but I don't know how severe these problems are, if it is a dealbreaker or you can live with it. Also I get the feeling that the Tegra 3 is lacking in terms of development support and Qualcomm devices are better suited for future development. Is that so or am I wrong?
Another thing which I consider is the display quality, although it is not the main one. I know that the One X has a denser screen with better color reproduction than the One S, due to being an LCD panel, but the blacks are not as deep as the AMOLED on the One S. Is there a big difference? Do the blacks shine too much at night? It would be very cool if someone could post a good photo of the One X displaying a black screen at night.
Just one more question, how does the picture quality from the Sense camera compare to picture quality from CyanogenMod? I know Sense takes better pictures because it is optimized for the hardware, but is it a big difference?
Thank you really much for your answers, I aprecciate your help.
PS.: I posted a similar question here in the One S forum, if you want to take a look.
This is what HTC says on Reddit (and that answers the part about Nvidia vs Qualcomm quite honestly):
To address an issue that’s top of mind for many folks here, we recently announced that we wouldn’t be updating the HTC One X and One X+ beyond Android 4.2. Without the support of our chip manufacturer Nvidia, it made a global update of One X and X+ devices impossible. However, in US the One X uses the Qualcomm chip and an upgrade would be possible, but we didn’t think it would be a good experience for our customer base to update the X, but not the X+. This update caused a huge stir amongst owners and we’ve heard you loud and clear, so we’re now actively exploring how we can make the jump to 4.4.
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So, Qualcomm FTW. But one thing I can't understand is how the Nexus 7 2012 got KitKat, when it's using the Tegra 3 too. It still feels like Nvidia abandoned it on 4.1, though.
frantisek.nesveda said:
This is what HTC says on Reddit (and that answers the part about Nvidia vs Qualcomm quite honestly):
So, Qualcomm FTW. But one thing I can't understand is how the Nexus 7 2012 got KitKat, when it's using the Tegra 3 too. It still feels like Nvidia abandoned it on 4.1, though.
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The nexus 7 has the T30L while the OneX/X+ use AP33/37. Nvidia still provides support for T30L but not for AP3x.
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guys, i was looking for a new device and came to note 4, but isee there 2 versions Snapdragon and Exynos
these benchmarks are old and since we are like nearly a year further since release in my country witch should i get of the 2
most ppl voted for the Exynos ver on this forum but i dont go read like 200+ posts,
what i want to do wit hthe device
gaming,
watching anime 10bit h264 / h265 mkv/flac
custom firmware something like archidroid witch i used on s3
help me out abit , the on paper reviews dont say everything its more about true phone power, stability, laggless, ofc speed to
as far as ive seen reviews , snapdragon is best in gpu depending stuff while Exynos does the multi process/task stuff but those revies are from 2014 dunno if anything has changed with the firmwares and so
Either one is okay. Depends on your carrier I would assume.
carries is kpn, but they are simlock free , kpn 4g with speed of 225Mbit for data, but that wasnt my question , i wanted to know witch is beter for feature , Snapdragon or Exynos both have cons and ups
snapdragon
more energy save
faster gpu
cons
slower load time eventhough it is 2.7ghz quad core
Exynos
faster multitask
faster loading aps
cons
faster battery drain
slower gpu
so i want ot make the right choice
Be careful my bro got the s6 with exynos, we rooted it and went looking for new roms but only found 2 and there isn't likely to be more because of the exynos
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This is the Sprint forum. Only one choice.
i have no clue i see 3 versions and i just picked a forum
Wesley_NL said:
i have no clue i see 3 versions and i just picked a forum
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Sprint only offers the snapdragon version.
I would try the main Note 4 forum.
Cjam180 said:
Be careful my bro got the s6 with exynos, we rooted it and went looking for new roms but only found 2 and there isn't likely to be more because of the exynos
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i see, thx for the warning but s6 is difrent from note right ?, the s6 is problematic bcus the edge ?
from what i have readed most ppl on xda voted for exynos on the poll yet no customs , i realy liked the customs like archidroid, it was fast , smooth, easy to use and install/setup and i was hoping there is one for the note 4 to but for me its a kind of difficult choice , so snapdragon has more custom roms faster gpu but its slower in performance and not 64bit ready, and the exynos is faster , slower gpu and less custom roms
the note4 is a difficult choice for me atm it seems
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Sprint only offers the snapdragon version.
I would try the main Note 4 forum.
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it was not directed at this version only, im from eu and i dont know what version i will get so im asking users how and what so i dont take the wrong turn, the version here probaly would be an internantional version like the s3 i had and i dont know what version the note 4 will be that i get, also have no clue how to spot what version is in box
While I am no expert on the difference between domestic and international phones for the US, from what I understand you will want to stick with exynos. The snapdragons are specific to the networks in the US. Will and do they work internationally? Yes. However, I believe you will run into issues with data with snapdragon phones internationally. I may be wrong on this so anyone can feel free to correct me but from what I understand, a note 4 with exynos will be better suited to the carriers internationally.
This is a US carrier section so many of us are not up on this info since we fairly rarely run into this. The general section for the note 4 will have more of an international following I believe.
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it was not directed at this version only, im from eu and i dont know what version i will get so im asking users how and what so i dont take the wrong turn, the version here probaly would be an internantional version like the s3 i had and i dont know what version the note 4 will be that i get, also have no clue how to spot what version is in box
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I understand it wasn't directed at this varient alone. But you won't get many responses to a request for comparisons when almost no one has an exynos here. That's why I provided a link to the forums where there are many people from both sides available to ask.
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I understand it wasn't directed at this varient alone. But you won't get many responses to a request for comparisons when almost no one has an exynos here. That's why I provided a link to the forums where there are many people from both sides available to ask.
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are you sure? cuz the poll says otherwise, more ppl voted for exynos so i thought alot used it
Wesley_NL said:
are you sure? cuz the poll says otherwise, more ppl voted for exynos so i thought alot used it
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If they do, it isn't through Sprint.
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Wesley_NL said:
guys, i was looking for a new device and came to note 4, but isee there 2 versions Snapdragon and Exynos
these benchmarks are old and since we are like nearly a year further since release in my country witch should i get of the 2
most ppl voted for the Exynos ver on this forum but i dont go read like 200+ posts,
what i want to do wit hthe device
gaming,
watching anime 10bit h264 / h265 mkv/flac
custom firmware something like archidroid witch i used on s3
help me out abit , the on paper reviews dont say everything its more about true phone power, stability, laggless, ofc speed to
as far as ive seen reviews , snapdragon is best in gpu depending stuff while Exynos does the multi process/task stuff but those revies are from 2014 dunno if anything has changed with the firmwares and so
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i know i am partial to the snapdragon versions in all cases, the snapdragons include the available hardware for the fm radios, and even if the fm radio app is not included, u can use nextradio or even the spirit fm radio app from here at xda... and the snapdragons have always been easier to root/unlock booloader, etc., if u ask me... and the snapdragons just seem cooler to me, in a vibe sort of way...