Hi,
Just wondering what the best wireless connection people have made with the HOX.
With my current router i just get 65mbps, but only when i am right next to the router.
I was thinking of getting a wireless router one of those 450Mbps 2.4/5.0Ghz.
Does the Hox even support the 5.0Ghz band?
thanks
No it doesnt accept the 5ghz frequency unfortunately.
Rollolo said:
No it doesnt accept the 5ghz frequency unfortunately.
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The HTX One X does have a dual band radio, so yes it can use either 2.4Ghz or 5Ghz. As for max speeds on most mobile devices these won't be great because of a few reasons like single antenna and power saving.
Having said that in the advanced wireless settings you can enable a setting for better wireless performance but it does warn that this will suck much more battery life. I haven't played with this myself but it may be worth trying to see what it does for you.
Good luck.
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I've stumbled across a number of postings that mentioned people get a maximum throughput of 65Mbps with the Wifi N mode on the Desire. That would make sense as it likely only utilizes 2.4GHz with limited internal antenna capabilities.
What it also means is that 802.11n is pretty pointless compared to 802.11g which already provides data rates of 54Mbps, and reportedly consumes less battery power.
It was also reported that the official Froyo release already activated 802.11n mode, which would make further modifications unnecessary.
My questions in the interest of throwing anything related to 802.11n out of the ROM:
1) does Froyo indeed include N support? (I don't have a N router and can not test it)
2) is N indeed limited to a max data rate of only 65 Mbps on the Desire?
Thanks for reading and hopefully feedback
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I have an 802.11n router and gets a max of only 65 mbps transfer rate using Froyo. I have since disabled N support on my Desire to save some batt life.
Using Pays Froyo 1.9 with enabled N and connecting up to 72Mb/s.
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mmaacc said:
I've stumbled across a number of postings that mentioned people get a maximum throughput of 65Mbps with the Wifi N mode on the Desire. That would make sense as it likely only utilizes 2.4GHz with limited internal antenna capabilities.
What it also means is that 802.11n is pretty pointless compared to 802.11g which already provides data rates of 54Mbps, and reportedly consumes less battery power.
It was also reported that the official Froyo release already activated 802.11n mode, which would make further modifications unnecessary.
My questions in the interest of throwing anything related to 802.11n out of the ROM:
1) does Froyo indeed include N support? (I don't have a N router and can not test it)
2) is N indeed limited to a max data rate of only 65 Mbps on the Desire?
Thanks for reading and hopefully feedback
Mac
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Not sure about anyone else, but with 802.11g the phone will connect at roughly half signal to my router, speeds of about 20-25mbps, when i connect via 802.11n the signal is much better and it connect at full 65mbps, though yeah i never get above 65mbps, i think this has to do with the antenna arangement, 802.11n had 3 antennas, and i think the desire only has 1 so the total speed is limited
i´m more interrested in the speed you transfer with on the diffrent modes since i get less than 20Mbit with G from local to local.. and i wonder if i sould invest in N ? does it give higher transferrates ? eg the speed of the filetransfer between comps..
sorry to ask
sorry to ask a noob question, but where again do you check to see the speed of your wireless, I did it once but can't remember how.
Phone *#*#4636#*#*. As to higher WiFi N speeds. We won't get higher speeds that 65-72Mbps because WiFi N mostly operates on the 5GHz band.
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Phone *#*#4636#*#*. As to higher WiFi N speeds. We won't get higher speeds that 65-72Mbps because WiFi N mostly operates on the 5GHz band.
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Thank you.
amf said:
I have an 802.11n router and gets a max of only 65 mbps transfer rate using Froyo. I have since disabled N support on my Desire to save some batt life.
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How did you disable N support on the Desire?
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Phone *#*#4636#*#*. As to higher WiFi N speeds. We won't get higher speeds that 65-72Mbps because WiFi N mostly operates on the 5GHz band.
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what a brainfuck 802.11 works with up to 600mbps at 2.4 ghz like on 5 ghz
. i wrote exams about wifi.
i bet the desire uses 1 antenna so it can get a max of 150mbps symbol rate.
but i think it uses a channel bandwidth of 20 mhz instead of 40 mhz so it is limited to the half of 150!!!
Well im currently connected at 72 using LeeDroid
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Phone *#*#4636#*#*. As to higher WiFi N speeds. We won't get higher speeds that 65-72Mbps because WiFi N mostly operates on the 5GHz band.
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ye this just shows your connected speed..
to get the actual speed you need to transfer a file between computers locally.
those 2 speeds vary alot since it depends on noise and interferrence and loss.
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what a brainfuck 802.11 works with up to 600mbps at 2.4 ghz like on 5 ghz
. i wrote exams about wifi.
i bet the desire uses 1 antenna so it can get a max of 150mbps symbol rate.
but i think it uses a channel bandwidth of 20 mhz instead of 40 mhz so it is limited to the half of 150!!!
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Souns like that could be the reason..
Murd0ck said:
ye this just shows your connected speed..
to get the actual speed you need to transfer a file between computers locally.
those 2 speeds vary alot since it depends on noise and interferrence and loss.
Souns like that could be the reason..
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the max payload data rate is 40 % of the symbol data rate
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what a brainfuck 802.11 works with up to 600mbps at 2.4 ghz like on 5 ghz
. i wrote exams about wifi.
i bet the desire uses 1 antenna so it can get a max of 150mbps symbol rate.
but i think it uses a channel bandwidth of 20 mhz instead of 40 mhz so it is limited to the half of 150!!!
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OK, that explains it. So we have a physical limit here for the throughput.
How about the better signal strength for N? This may be the result of the coding scheme. And more importantly, does the stock Froyo already provide 802.11n, so we could get rid of all the firmware and module hacks?
Bongmaster is right, you have different speeds for wireless N devices.
The desire is 1T1R (1 transmitter 1 receiver), and therefore can only only get 150mbps as a max theoretical speed. 2T2R is required for 300mbps operation.
However as mentioned, this only works with 40mhz channel bandwidth, 20mhz will cut it in half again.
Can someone force 40mhz channel bandwidth on their router and post results? Most Wireless N routers seem to come with 20mhz as the default setting.
Let me bump this again, there is one important question that was not answered yet:
Does the stock Froyo release (OTA) support Wifi 802.11n or not? I can not test it as I don't have access to a N router.
Thanks!
Everything I have read says yes.
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Let me bump this again, there is one important question that was not answered yet:
Does the stock Froyo release (OTA) support Wifi 802.11n or not? I can not test it as I don't have access to a N router.
Thanks!
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+1 need to know also.
BUMP.
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Bongmaster is right, you have different speeds for wireless N devices.
The desire is 1T1R (1 transmitter 1 receiver), and therefore can only only get 150mbps as a max theoretical speed. 2T2R is required for 300mbps operation.
However as mentioned, this only works with 40mhz channel bandwidth, 20mhz will cut it in half again.
Can someone force 40mhz channel bandwidth on their router and post results? Most Wireless N routers seem to come with 20mhz as the default setting.
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I did this and it made no difference, 72Mbps was the maximum it showed.
To be honest, I'm not sure the Desire is even capable of handling anywhere near this speed anyway. When connected to my home wireless at this speed, the actually download speed I get via speedtest.net is somewhere around 15-20Mbps and I have a 50Mbit connection.
Don't know what's up with all yours but mine is running at 425.9 MBPS.. IT is lightening fast, much faster than my 128mbps stick.
the actually download speed I get via speedtest.net is somewhere around 15-20Mbps and I have a 50Mbit connection.
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That's all your getting from your ISP then when you tested, try it again at 2am or something when there's less people in your area sharing your bandwidth.
802.11n includes a number of "optional" features, so how much of it does the Galaxy Nexus actually implement?
My Wifi router supports 2.4GHz and 5GHz bands simultaneously with different SSIDs, but the Galaxy Nexus only ever sees the SSID of the 2.4GHz AP. So I suppose it does not support 802.11n in the 5GHz band?
Also, even when standing right next to the router, it showed only a 65Mbps connection. Shouldn't that go to at least 150Mbps? And actually higher if MIMO is supported?
If the Galaxy Nexus' "802.11n" doesn't support anything better than 2.4GHz band with 65Mbps, it's a fake - 802.11g does 2.4GHz/54Mbps, so the "802.11n"-support boils down to be effectively nothing.
Has anyone managed to get better Wifi results with the Galaxy Nexus?
i think the gnexus is only supposed to support 2.4ghz band if i remember correctly. i get the same, 65mbps. all is good though i get great speeds and more distance. if 5ghz is in the hardware then software doesn't support it yet.
It does support 5ghz. Go to settings and then press wifi. Press the menu on the bottom right and select advanced. Then, wifi frequency band.
Weird... My WNDR3700 running DD-WRT is setup for 2.4 and 5GHz... My MacBook Pro is connected to the 5GHz SSID, but that is not displaying on my available wireless networks on my GNex...
The wifi settings are set to "auto", but even when set to only use 5GHz, it still doens't list it.
I'm connected to my 5GHz network right now so yes it does support it.
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I'm connected to my 5GHz network right now so yes it does support it.
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I'm connected to my 5Ghz network as well, however I'm only seeing 65 Mbps connection speed. Are you seeing a better speed?
Wi-fi performance for file transfers have been pretty abismal. Using the app andFTP and the sftp protocol I can only get about 1300kbps download speeds.
I get a weak WiFi signal on both spectrums compared to my DInc, DX, & DX2.
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My Galaxy Nexus connects to my 5ghz just fine. One problem though, the phone shows signal of my 5ghz lower than the 2.4ghz in the same spot and I'm meters away from my router.
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Like the title says, does anyone know for sure if the 900 supports 802.11n over 5ghz instead of 2.4ghz? been searching and i can't seem to find anything.
Thanks in advance
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Like the title says, does anyone know for sure if the 900 supports 802.11n over 5ghz instead of 2.4ghz? been searching and i can't seem to find anything.
Thanks in advance
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it does not. Samsung focus s did. The hd7, lumia 710 and 900 do not.
I can confirm. My Focus S saw and connected to my 5Ghz wireless with no problems.
The Lumia 900 doesn''t even 'see' it.
Just out of curiousity, what would you do with an N connection on your phone?
Just curious, not judging or questioning your need.
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Just out of curiousity, what would you do with an N connection on your phone?
Just curious, not judging or questioning your need.
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for me , I just want to connect with what's available. But I have the same type of question around camera quality..why do you expect voque quality pics from from a phone camera placed in your pocket.
Your question to the wireless gave tme the perspective for the camera!
hx4700 Killer said:
Just out of curiousity, what would you do with an N connection on your phone?
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I assume you're asking why would I need a 5GHz connection and not a 2.4GHz connection: both can be 802.11n.
The reason is simple in my case. From various spots in my apartment, there's upwards of 25 different wireless connections on the 2.4GHz band. There's zero on the 5GHz band. If I'm connected on 2.4GHz, I'm lucky to get a signal 20 feet from my router.
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I assume you're asking why would I need a 5GHz connection and not a 2.4GHz connection: both can be 802.11n.
The reason is simple in my case. From various spots in my apartment, there's upwards of 25 different wireless connections on the 2.4GHz band. There's zero on the 5GHz band. If I'm connected on 2.4GHz, I'm lucky to get a signal 20 feet from my router.
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No, I am asking what the benefit of a potential 300MB(N) connection VS 10MB(B) or 54MB(G) to a cell phone would be considering most home internet is in the 1MB to 10MB range.
So essentially, what does one need a 300MB connection to their cell phone?
However, in your case I assume you only have N on the 2.4G band and no B or G ?
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No, I am asking what the benefit of a potential 300MB(N) connection VS 10MB(B) or 54MB(G) to a cell phone would be considering most home internet is in the 1MB to 10MB range.
So essentially, what does one need a 300MB connection to their cell phone?
However, in your case I assume you only have N on the 2.4G band and no B or G ?
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I think it could be useful if you do the "Wireless Sync" option with Zune. 300MB/s internal network speeds would make wireless syncing a lot faster.
But now that I think about it - since wireless syncing usually happens at night, while you're asleep, and your phone is charging... super fast speeds probably aren't need anyway.
I am getting low speeds when using wifi on GS3 compared to my computer and brothers nexus 4. In my room which is the room next to the living room with the router I get about 16-20 mbps on 2.4 ghz and about 8-10 on 5ghz. My brother was getting about 40mbps on his nexus and my computer about 46 mbps.
What can I do to fix?
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I am getting low speeds when using wifi on GS3 compared to my computer and brothers nexus 4. In my room which is the room next to the living room with the router I get about 16-20 mbps on 2.4 ghz and about 8-10 on 5ghz. My brother was getting about 40mbps on his nexus and my computer about 46 mbps.
What can I do to fix?
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You could try on the ROM to set for one frequency band only instead of Auto. For example, 2.4 and not 5ghz. Also, your Router's admin page could give preference to a particular device with QoS settings.
Maybe reboot the router and cable modem/dsl to see if that might help.
It's a possibility you could try to change the wifi channel you are connecting on as well. It may be set as auto but may get interference. I would only caution, the laptops seems to have higher powered antennas and our phones usually aren't terribly high power so they may have the possibility of being susceptible to more interference whereas the laptop is not.
Get inSSIDer from the play store. It will help you find the best wifi channel.
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TomTcom said:
You could try on the ROM to set for one frequency band only instead of Auto. For example, 2.4 and not 5ghz. Also, your Router's admin page could give preference to a particular device with QoS settings.
Maybe reboot the router and cable modem/dsl to see if that might help.
It's a possibility you could try to change the wifi channel you are connecting on as well. It may be set as auto but may get interference. I would only caution, the laptops seems to have higher powered antennas and our phones usually aren't terribly high power so they may have the possibility of being susceptible to more interference whereas the laptop is not.
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I turned QoS off, speeds on every other device are great except for the phone itself. Like I said my bro standing next to me and my laptop in my room got around 40mbps (nexus 4) and my laptop got around 46-48 mbps while my S3 was only able to pull near 20mbps. I've tried limiting my frequency scans to 2.4ghz or 5ghz only and have not noticed any differences. Actually 5ghz seems to be slower which is weird since my bro and my phone are the only ones able to connect to that band. You guys think changing wifi drivers would make a difference in my phone? I know different kernels have different wifi drivers built in.
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Get inSSIDer from the play store. It will help you find the best wifi channel.
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I used wifi analyzer to set the channel.
any other help from anyone would be appreciated.
Is it possible to serve a hotspot on both 2.4ghz and 5ghz frequencies at the same time?
I need 5ghz for LTE speed but I need 2.4ghz for a printer.
Is it a limitation of hardware that there's no option to select both in Lineage?
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Is it possible to serve a hotspot on both 2.4ghz and 5ghz frequencies at the same time?
I need 5ghz for LTE speed but I need 2.4ghz for a printer.
Is it a limitation of hardware that there's no option to select both in Lineage?
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Two simultaneously operating Wi-Fi hotspot transmitters means high power consumption and heat emission.
I don't know a smartphone that had such a possibility.
I'm skipping the fact that there must be two antennas in the device, which must be far away from each other to avoid interference.
Rather look for a stationary router that will meet your expectations.
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