[Q] Is it safe to let Titanium Backup move all my apps to SD? - Xperia Arc Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Like the topic states. Ive just downloaded Titanium Backup and i cant see myself using any of the other features besides forcing apps like Chrome Beta or Tumblr which use alot of internal memory to the SD. So far those apps i moved to the SD work fine, but is it stable to keep them there? or is there another app that will work even better than TB? Im rooted with 4.0.4 btw

Titanium backup is the best all rounder app for rooted devices
its safe to move user apps..but not the system apps..u can move wat all u have downloaded without any worry..

Good to know, thanks but it makes me wonder why the developers dont allow all their apps to transfer to the SD by default.

You could always try making them system apps which Will save space.
Long press on app, and from pop up menu select make system app.
System space is separate from internal, titanium main Screen will show how much space available.
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is it better to make them system apps than to move to the SD? will it matter in terms of performance?

oh, one problem im facing moving apps like Beautiful Widgets and Chrome to the SD...the widgets wont show up. Will i face this same problem if i make them system apps instead?

The only rule: Dont move/push/link apps to sd which you want to use as widget!

cool. makes sense. thanks

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Any benefits of SD partitioning?

I Google's and became more confused on this. Is there any benefit to this other than if you somehow reach Max storage on the phone? So if I partition the SD do I have to us apps2sd? Can I just use titanium backup and put on SD card or does that not us the partition I created? Alot of apps don't work with move2sd app. Apps2sd isn't I'm the market. Also doesn't show much apps and I know the developer has to sign or do something so it will work.. bit don't want people to share for free. But titanium does it was any app.
From what I read this phone doesn't work like a computer with the memory. What I mean is if I use the system app and shows a list of apps running "if you can say running I'm not sure" its not really slowing my phone down. From what I understand is if I force close them I will use more power and CPU when my phone starts them back up...
So is there any benefit? Do I really need to force close any programs or apps that are running and I'm not using. Etc Gmail. I don't use Gmail. Just a example as I already deleted the apk.
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No.generally you don't need to force anything to close. It is possible to come along a ****ty app that never sleeps, but that's rare.
Regarding partitioning for apps2sd, it is very highly unlikely that you need this on the evo or future phones. The benefit is being able to put apps on the card that disallow froyos ability to put apps on the card. You really don't have that many apps that don't allow it.
Check out "sdmove" in the market as the native way to move apps is annoying as ****.
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Yeah that app shows only 3 apps I can move while titanium I moved 16.. hit the 1700 mark with cm6 with stock kernel.
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Should I un-partition my SD card
I have Apps2SD but I don't see the benefit of it. I just end up waiting longer for devs(like Virus) to work it into their latest releases.
Is there any substantial benefit of having my SD card partitioned and using Apps2SD?
(FYI i have a 16gb class6 card)
Thanks in advance.
MattySauce said:
I have Apps2SD but I don't see the benefit of it. I just end up waiting longer for devs(like Virus) to work it into their latest releases.
Is there any substantial benefit of having my SD card partitioned and using Apps2SD?
(FYI i have a 16gb class6 card)
Thanks in advance.
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* Native move to SD can't move everything (as already stated). Darktremor moves everything, automatically.
* Native move to SD puts everything on the main SD partition, and whenever you plug your Evo in in disk drive mode, the apps on the SD become unavailable. With Darktremor, they all still work, even when the Evo is in disk drive mode.

[Q] How can you tell which apps you can move to sd card?

How can I tell which apps can be moved to sdcard without issues. If you use a widget for a certain app you have to leave it on the phone's memory right? I am using CM7 and I was wondering since it allows you to move all apps or should I uncheck move all apps and then the ones that you are allowed to move will they still have that option? Thanks Again!
Right, apps have to be in phone memory for you to use their widget. I use App2SD (there is a free version) to keep track of what can be moved, is on phone memory, and is on SD.
i was using app2sd up till 3 days ago.
just bought Titanium Backup and i swear i saw somewhere in a batchsomething(?)...
found out i can move more than app2sd would let me do.
cant remember where i saw it @?????
Titanium is good for moving apps to SD too. Hit Menu, then Batch, scroll down to "Move/Integrate". It will let you batch move apps to SD or back to internal. If you have the Pro version it will batch all of them. Even the paid version of App2SD makes you select "Move to SD" for every app.
But, for moving one or two apps back and forth I still prefer App2SD. As soon as you launch it, it shows what apps are internal and external.
Now my next question is...
Are there any certain apps u would leave on on the phone?
I.E. stability issues?
Not dissing on app2sd, it has been a loyal soldier;
why has titanium allowed me to move more apps?
Been considering tasker next.
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error629 said:
Now my next question is...
Are there any certain apps u would leave on on the phone?
I.E. stability issues?
Not dissing on app2sd, it has been a loyal soldier;
why has titanium allowed me to move more apps?
Been considering tasker next.
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just how it was programmed. to be able to move any and everything i am guessing. i tried App2sd and it didnt move all the things i needed it to like Titan did.
You don't want to move launchers or anything your phone needs when it boots. I'd say any system app that you shouldn't remove shouldn't be moved to the SD card, since your phone will fail without it.
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Leave any system app, on the phone. The only user apps that "need" to be on the sdcard are widgets, or anything that may need to read the phone state, like an alarm clock app/widget.

SD card as external vs sd-ext

Advantages and disadvamtages? What are they?
Thanks
Niall
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From my days on Desire, I found D2EXT much better cos ALL of the app was moved and the system was tricked into thinking the EXT part of the memory card was actually the internal memory (NAND). For some strange reason there was only few roms that had it (hence why i was on MIUI on my desire).
Don't understand the Xperia Play forum, very disorganised, gonna use http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1374061 to move my apps to SD card. Defo want more apps, hate this running out of space!!!!
Nhialor said:
Advantages and disadvamtages? What are they?
Thanks
Niall
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Basically the use of having an ext partition in your sdcard in the 1st place is our device's very poor internal storage(400mb) and the system is already taking up about half of it.
If you notice other devices with high internal storage as default (8gb, 16, 32gb like Galaxy S, SII, Note, Etc.,) doesnt even bother having it, even though its still possible.
If youre installing some user apps and its frustrating because you cant move it to SD card via settings menu, its because the app wants you to install it to the internal memory,
as they “believe” the app wouldn’t work in your SD card. If youre using a higher internal storage smartphone this isn’t much an issue to you, but if youre struggling for space,
this is quite annoying.
So the use of an ext-partition in your sd card is needed for those apps unmovable via the “normal way”.
Some 3rd party apps such as Link2sd(my personal favourite), Simple2Ext(CM7 rom), Apps2Sd, and many more out there will make use of this partition
These tools will “fool” your system in linking those user apps to your internal memory where in reality they’re moving it into your ext-partition, which is basically to your sd card also.
Take note that some apps though(well, not much) are not functional if they’re in the ext partition. In my experience only 2 apps failed to work, Beautiful Widgets and Minecraft pocket edition. I don’t know about others since
almost all apps seem to function well in the ext partition.
Not only that, some apps also(such as titanium backup) can convert a system app to a user app, so you can move it to your sd card using Link2Sd! But I wouldn’t recommend it though, I’m reading a lot of threads here
which system apps are safe to transfer/freeze/delete, so I have some system apps converted to user and now on my ext partition. Sweet.
Hope Ive helped.
Can I second noojster on Link2SD. Both minecraft and beautiful widgets work fine for me. Jelly Defense doesn't seem to like it though. Only one I have found so far.

Titanium Backup Question

Has anyone tried moving all user apps to the Sdcard to have them run out of the sdcard? I would like to run the apps out of my extsdcard.
I did on another device once... some apps worked others I found need to be on internal.... trial and error I guess.I ended up whipping and starting over. It was about a 5 minute adventure that devastated this noob at the time.... I am still a noob... any how IMHO just leave things be and let them default. Unless you have a storage issue..??... I am not really sure what the reason is for having A2sd. I could see it on older devices that has a lack of internal or maybe if using a class 10 micro SD could speed up some applications.... I guess what is your reason for doing it? It if you do do this any ways make back ups and I would only do one at a time and then test. I remember having issues with widgets. Hope this help or some one with more knowledge than me can chime in.
There used to be a hack for it. It's no longer needed.
Moving apps to the EXT-SD card that aren't meant to be there, is just going to cause you problems and with all the storage this phone has is....well, silly.
Definitely don't move apps that you want to start/run at boot, or apps that have widgets (especially widgets you have on your homescreens)
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[Q] App Removal vs Freezing

In my stock rom that is rooted I have many of the original apps frozen.
Is there any advantage to removing these apps vs freezing them. There is plenty of space on the system partition and I don't think that having the extra files in the system partition slows the phone down.
king200 said:
In my stock rom that is rooted I have many of the original apps frozen.
Is there any advantage to removing these apps vs freezing them. There is plenty of space on the system partition and I don't think that having the extra files in the system partition slows the phone down.
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Not really, unless you need space.
Personally, I freeze apps I want to use later (like Maps) but uninstall everything else.
Uninstall apps you feel you would never use.. Examples are default live wallpapers cos I never use them.
Freeze you don't use normally but feel you may use once in a while... Examples here would be like maps.
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