Hey guys,
Assuming you have read the title there is something weird about my phone.
It shuts down at 40-50% battery (before it shutsdown it says empty battery briefly and then the htc flash screen appears and shutsdown).
The weird thing is the following:
It shuts down at let's say 40% battery, but when it re boots the battery is litterly empty (even when i boot in recovery it says --%, and when i plug the charger it starts at 0% again).
I have tried:
Battery Calibrator
Empty full fill up with wall charger and also tried usb charger.
Screaming @ phone
wiping battery data in recovery (4ext recovery)
The thing i am most confused about is that it goes out at 40% and when i turn it on again it's 0%. This never happened as it happened for the first time 2 weeks ago, confused. I tried different roms and it still happens (even ICS roms).
I wouldn't really mind if my phone would shut down at say 20% when it says actually it's @ 20. But as i said before: It says it's 40 (batterij indicator htc sense half full) and then shutsdown realizing after reboot it's completely empty.
Any help is much appreciated!
Mendel
Shutting down on let's say 15-20% is quite normal, but I never heard of one shutting down at 40%
Are you using the stock battery, that came with your device?
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Any chance to try another battery? Seems really strange cause in most cases if you wipe battery stats you get your phone shutdown at 20%, not 50%.
Its most likely a bad battery that needs to be replaced specially if tue same thing happens when using a different rom.
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Yeah i know it seems so weird that's why i started this thread.
Before i buy a new battery:
What could be the cause that the phone goes out at 40% (or 30) and when it reboots it's empty.
Seems like the phone or the battery aren't in "sync" until it reboots to show it's empty.
Any tips or suggestions?
Thanks!
mendelmusic said:
Yeah i know it seems so weird that's why i started this thread.
Before i buy a new battery:
What could be the cause that the phone goes out at 40% (or 30) and when it reboots it's empty.
Seems like the phone or the battery aren't in "sync" until it reboots to show it's empty.
Any tips or suggestions?
Thanks!
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I'd like to think of it similar to laptop batteries that have gone bad... you plug your laptop to it's power supply, it says fully charged but as soon as you pull it out from it's power supply it drops to 50% in minutes and then goes off. The battery cannot hold the charge anymore.
It can only mean that the battery's life is at an end. The only thing you can do is to change it. I suggest that you stick to original HTC battery as the "ChinaMade" ones will die a lot faster and you'll have to change it sooner than this one.
Regards.
Pushu.X
Hey guys!
I know this thread is started since several months but I actually have the same problem : I have a HTC Desire and its shuts down at about 50% and when I reboot it, it says the battery is empty.
I tried several times to recalibrate the battery (and to do all the things MendelMusic said in his post actually) but nothing changed.
MendelMusic, did you finally manage to solve your problem?
Anybody have a solution or any ideas?
Thanks!
FreakyC said:
Hey guys!
I know this thread is started since several months but I actually have the same problem : I have a HTC Desire and its shuts down at about 50% and when I reboot it, it says the battery is empty.
I tried several times to recalibrate the battery (and to do all the things MendelMusic said in his post actually) but nothing changed.
MendelMusic, did you finally manage to solve your problem?
Anybody have a solution or any ideas?
Thanks!
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Mine used to shut off around 32%. This forum fixed this issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24599586
Battery drain?
It's called battery drain. I have it too, but only at 10/20%?
If someone knows a fix, please send it to me
AW: Htc Desire Shuts down at 40-50% battery
Probably your batteries are just weak now. I'd recommend you all to invest 5 bucks in a new battery. Actually that helped at my old desire. Greetings
Thanks for your answers!
I tried the link of madreef and it didn't change. I will try again, maybe I did it wrong (hope it will work this time...)
@dschibril : I don't think my battery is weak because the problem occured as soon as I changed the ROM (CM10). The battery was perfectly ok before that.
battery drain
FreakyC said:
Thanks for your answers!
I tried the link of madreef and it didn't change. I will try again, maybe I did it wrong (hope it will work this time...)
@dschibril : I don't think my battery is weak because the problem occured as soon as I changed the ROM (CM10). The battery was perfectly ok before that.
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Hello, I have the same problem with you. Did you manage to fix it and how? Have you tried a brand new battery so far?
It has to do with the Desire's poor battery age management system. Li-Ion batteries age, meaning that, as time passes, they're gonna be able to hold less and less milliamps. After almost two years, my Desire's battery can only hold 82% of the original ~1400 mA charge.
The only way around this is to use the Nexus One Battery Calibrator (Nexus One and our Desire share the same hardware underneath the hood). You'll need a compatible kernel and some patience. Instructions in this post.
My 2 cents: if your battery is only able to hold less than say 75%-80% of its original charge, then you should replace it. Li-Ion batteries age in such a way that they suddenly go dead, so it's not worth taking the risk.
Later Edit - If your Desire shuts down at say 40% - 50%, that means that your battery is 40% or 50% gone, so it's time for a replacement. I'd still try the battery calibration method i wrote about in the above post, just to determine if it's a freak software error or the battery's fault.
P.S. - Wiping battery stats does nothing to solve most issues (for the Desire, at least).
My phone turns off sometimes at 50%, sometimes at 80% of battery.
I have new battery now (original one) and it is the same. Phone turns off, only when it is connected to charger it does not.
Hiii
My hTC Desire 728 shut down when then battery showing 50% to 60% in charge. What is the remedies?
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I need help. My HTC Desire keeps shutting down automatically at 30% battery life. And when I power it back on, it stays on for a while then automatically shuts down again. The same happens when I havent fully charged it and its still in the charger.
It does the same with both my batteries.Is this a fault or a type of security feature? Is there a way around It?
definite fault - have you flashed it or is it the stock rom ?
either way, it's not a 'feature'
I'd be seriously pissed off if that was a security feature.
Are you rooted?
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ErwinSprangers said:
I need help. My HTC Desire keeps shutting down automatically at 30% battery life. And when I power it back on, it stays on for a while then automatically shuts down again. The same happens when I havent fully charged it and its still in the charger.
It does the same with both my batteries.Is this a fault or a type of security feature? Is there a way around It?
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If you're rooted with ClockWork, go into advanced menu and reset battery data.
Seems to me that the info regarding battery usage, cycles etc has been corrupted.
Could be because you're changing batteries.
I might have experience similar issues. Last week my battery was approx 30% when my desire suddenly shut down.
After a while I was able to boot into Android but it immediatly shut down again because of the low battery.
If it happens again tomorrow, I'll try wiping battery stats.
Please report back if you find a solution.
Hello!
It is the same for my Desire. It also goes off with 20 or 30% power left.
I have a rooted device. I wiped battery statistics via recovery and as a result - now Desire shuts at 30% (but before it happened at 20%)
I am using Modaco r3.1-bravo-desire-modacocustomrom-withadditions-a2sd+
This is really weird.....
Any thoughts or recommendations?
Guys, which rom are you using in your devices?
Had no issues on r3.1 MoDaCo but I'm using my own ROM (check sig for link) now and haven't experienced a single problem with the battery.
wipe your battery data and fully charge your device from ... (dont know how to say on english,sorry ) - i mean, not by USB cable.
shoonari said:
wipe your battery data and fully charge your device from ... (dont know how to say on english,sorry ) - i mean, not by USB cable.
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wall charger
Full charge with the device powered off.
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Last week I wallcharged when the device was off and I was able to drain it down to 16%.
So it's good.
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Full charge with the device powered off.
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Thank you for advice! Will definitely try.
Any luck with this? I've ran juice plotter and watched my battery drain from 23% to 0 in 10 minutes.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk
Shutting down at higher than, say, 1-3%, means that either the battery has defective cells (not sure how likely that is here - only seen it on laptop batteries) or the meter isn't calibrated properly. Most of 'em recalibrate once they've hit empty, so if it's the latter, it should theoretically resolve itself. Anyone know if there's a possibility to recalibrate the meter on Android (full charge, full discharge and then full charge)?
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That is really weird!
Once I charged Desire (when it was switched off) with the wall charger - I was able to work till 7%. I was happy and thought that the problem has been solved.
But I was too fast!!! Yesterday Desire switched off again at 27%.
Totally frustrated.....
Weird problem ain't it. I managed to charge up my phone to about 15% after it died and it slowly died like it would normally
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I guess to rule out software you should clear the battery info. Do a full charge (some say with phone off), do a full discharge and then a full charge again.
A full charge-discharge-charge cycle should, at least in theory, make sure the software knows what's up.
And to be sure, use your battery in another Desire if possible. If that one shows the same behaviour with your battery (and obviously shouldn't have any troubles before) it must be something with the battery.
Or! Just start nagging at HTC and get yourself a new battery with some nice social engineering
on earlier ROMS(custom as well as stock) my desire used to shut down at 14-15%
but with insertcoin 1.14 its shutting down at 25-30%.....real pain int he ass
I have also calibrated the battery by emptying it and wall charging but no luck..
any solution guys?
why people dont think that this is a real problem im trying to search for a solution from more than 1 year but there is no permanent solution ,,,, many phones have this problem ,,, !!!!!!!!!!! very strange
Use usb connection with pc to charge your phone: it's long time but the best way
Try to delete battery stat from recovery also
Hey there,
I have the problem that my phone always turns off when I have about ~12% of battery life. I'm using oxygen 2.2 with s-off. I tried the following:
1. turn on desire and load till 100% (green LED)
2. turn off desire and load again till 100% (which is immediately)
3. boot into recovery while plugged in and delete the batter stats file
4. boot the desire while still on the cable and when it's fully booted ->unplug from the charging cable
5. without charging again let the phone discharge completely -> phone still turns off at about 10% of battery life
how to proceed now?
tried this?.. seems a little different from what you did.. I think
bubu. said:
Hey there,
I have the problem that my phone always turns off when I have about ~12% of battery life. I'm using oxygen 2.2 with s-off. I tried the following:
1. turn on desire and load till 100% (green LED)
2. turn off desire and load again till 100% (which is immediately)
3. boot into recovery while plugged in and delete the batter stats file
4. boot the desire while still on the cable and when it's fully booted ->unplug from the charging cable
5. without charging again let the phone discharge completely -> phone still turns off at about 10% of battery life
how to proceed now?
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What you've done is called "bump charging". I've tried it myself today because I used a battery calibration app that made my battery life worse but bump charging didn't help at all and I've read on this forum and others that some people have serious problems after this process.
I'm currently trying the process from the link bortak posted above.
Why 'bump charging'? What special step I took is responsible to call it like this? The thing is: How to discharge very very fast? It's always very bad to have to discharge completely without charging it inbetween because sometimes I need to plug it to USB to transfer some files and when it takes a day to discharge, that's just not too comfortable... That's why I ask for a very very quick discharging-way?!
And: it seems that the instructions are very close to what I did (okay not completely). strange, that it makes such a difference...
I don't know why it's called bump charging...it just is because someone decided to call it that.
The problem you're having with the phone turning off at about 12% charge could be ROM related...I think. I seem to remember reading another thread on this forum that said some ROM's do this, but for what reason I don't know. Do a search and you should find another thread regarding this issue which was posted within the last week or two. Hope this helps
Thanks so far, I'll also try the link from above But I had this with djdroid before, and now with oxygen. So dunno if it's ROM related because the one is sense, the other isn't and the one was android 2.2 and the other is 2.3. So... perhaps really something related to the battery
Edit: Other people with the same prob in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10820607#post10820607
look especially to the linked post
bubu. said:
Edit: Other people with the same prob in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10820607#post10820607
look especially to the linked post
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Slightly different issue for you from the graph example. The graph shows the sharp drop but you'd still notice the countdown to 0% but it would drop considerably faster from say 10% down to 0%. Yours is just dying at 12% which is altogether something different.
It's amazing the number of threads started in the last few days regarding various battery issues. My battery's started playing up over the last 2-3 days too.
xybadog said:
Slightly different issue for you from the graph example. The graph shows the sharp drop but you'd still notice the countdown to 0% but it would drop considerably faster from say 10% down to 0%. Yours is just dying at 12% which is altogether something different.
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oh yeah, somehow missed that you're right. hm, I'm just trying the instructions from above; the phone is just discharging, so probably tomorrow morning it's completely empty or so Let's than check, what happens
edit: tried it but didn't wor. still shutting down at about 12-13%...
Hello,
My desire, after:
an inability to restore nandroid backup
a possible corrupted sd card
a usb brick and inability to mount some nand partitions
and finally succeeding in fixing it, now using/running:
2.29.405.5 stock rooted rom
a new sd card (samsung 16GB class 6)
clockworkmod 2.5.0.7
s-off
seems that has battery issues. When it reaches below 30%, it drains a lot faster. In example few minutes ago, the battery was below 30% level and after sending a couple of sms messages the phone, without the "Connect the charger" indication shut down. Not even the battery icon was red.
What should I do?
After flashing the above ROM I ran an app called battery calibration (could this be the culprit?).
I haven't experienced such problems before the whole mess mentioned above.
Thank you for your time.
Well, it seems to me like a "classic" battery meter calibration issue.
TVTV said:
In order to calibrate the battery meter - FYI the battery itself cannot be calibrated, as Li-Ion batteries have a very low memory compared to old Ni-Cd etc. batteries - you have to go through the following procedure:
1) charge the battery to 100%;
2) let the battery discharge until the phone shuts itself down;
3) plug the wall charger into the phone, boot the phone up then charge the battery to 100% without interruptions.
If the above procedure does not yield the expected results, you can try fully charging the phone (LED showing green) with it completely turned off (after completely draining it). Again, the charging procedure should not be interrupted.
Source: personal experience - had to do this twice after installing new ROMs, as the phone was shutting down at ~14% (working like a charm now).
Regarding the matter of battery wear because of complete discharges, Li-Ion batteries do indeed have a lower cycle count than old-school batteries, but the standard charge/discharge number a Li-Ion battery can take is ~350, so you can't damage the battery pack by doing a full cycle per month (required to keep the battery meter accurate).
Good luck!
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Did this work you mate? I have the same issue with my year old batter now... the phone shuts down @ 40% without any warning... and when I charge it, it starts from 0% and as soon as it hits the 58% mark, it jumps to 100% by itself... and i cant seem to figure out what the hell could I do to fix it... I tried calibrating the battery using the awesome method described here http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/11823-battery-calibration-thread 3 times and nothing changed...
bump bump.. i really need help on this guys... :/
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Weird that after calibration you still get that kind of issues, does this only happen on your current ROM? I have the latest CM in my desire and everything works just fine... Maybe try another ROM if calibration doesn't work to see if it's a hardware or software issue
i actually had issues with MIUI first.. the phone randomly shut down by itself but when i turned it back on, it was perfect... then i switched back to Oxygen and while everything was fine, suddenly one day the phone died at 40% :S and from that day on the phone charges to 58% and then instantly jumps to 100%... and as soon as it gets to 40% it shuts down itself... i guess i need a new battery but i wanted to see wether i can fix this one somehow so i can use it till the new one arrives...
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same problem
i have the same problem
my phone turns off at 20% battery
calibration does not help....
and battery is not bad - it works fine
i'm sure its the problem with calibration
kshitijgandhi said:
i have the same problem
my phone turns off at 20% battery
calibration does not help....
and battery is not bad - it works fine
i'm sure its the problem with calibration
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phone turning off at 20% is fine mate because thats the battery guards against any damage
most of the phones ( smart phones) switch off at 20% as going lower can damage the System .
It shouldnt normally..It's supposed to work fine upto 5%
Have a look at this, it worked for me (but you need a compatible kernel, most AOSP are so)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=765609
Hey,
My desire shutsdown itself at 13%. The Desire HD of my brother shutdown at 0-2%.
Ive tried to reset batterystats but it doesnt help.
What can i do?
Gee, I can't tell.
How about googling about it first?
It was Same on stock rom as i bought it newly (before 1year), it cant be because its old, and Ive calibrated it too, more Tipps i cant find there,
It is a problem with the battery stats. HOWEVER. I've read somewhere (cant remember where ) that even though its an annoying problem. Re-setting the battery stats will not improve battery life. It will give you a more accurate representation but the battery life will stay the same.
Instead of messing around ressetting stats just remember that 13% = dead battery.
just my 2c
Some batteries shut down with 13%, some with 20%, some with 1% and others with something between. As long as you did not notice a strange battery drain, I would just stick with 13% = dead battery (as already mentioned).
Ok, i asked because i thought it isnt normal. Thank its ok.
Thank you
I guess it depends on the battery. I have one that goes almost until 0% and I have another one that holds only until about 11% or so... 13 is not that bad!
My desire did this, except it shut down at around 20%. I just bought a new battery, not even an official HTC one at this fixed it. Now it shuts down at 0-1%.
So basically, its just the battery imo. My battery was about 1 1/2 years old and had seen better days.
Used to have this problem
When I used CM7.0.3 I had this problem, now running LeeDrOiD HD 3.3.3 with Sense 3 and it only shuts down at 2% or less.
i have same problem too
same here
Mine used to do this aswell. Reboot to recovery and clear battery stats? Then full charge and full discharge.
Worked for me at least.
Mythbusters to the rescue.
Like every desire user am having this problem too. I often switch between roms. Even after resetting battery stats my desire dies at 15% battery.
http://forum.oxygen.im/viewtopic.php?id=723
calibrate the battery ****s down at 0% then
I think, you have to reset the Battery Stats. For me it helps!
Lol.
It is not a problem any longer since theGanymedes published his great guide.
Notice how he never mentioned wiping battery stats?
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same here
pechano said:
Mine used to do this aswell. Reboot to recovery and clear battery stats? Then full charge and full discharge.
Worked for me at least.
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... buit how can i fully discharge the battery if it shuts down at 13 or 20%? even if i restart the phone, it shuts down again
Mine just shut down between 45% - 48%.
Ordered a new one
Same here @ 18%, going to test some methods and inform you
You need to recalibrate the registers in the battery. There is a special program that does that.
Use this howto and it will be fixed.
http://forum.oxygen.im/viewtopic.php?id=723
BTW, you need to have Cyanogenmod or Oxygen installed for this to work or a distro with a kernel that supports it.
Hey all,
I have the wildfire running with a stable CM nightly (forgot exact version, but already a good year old I think and never any problem with the battery). I have not recently done anything special with my phone (no new radio, ROM, updates, new apps, ...) but since a week or two I have the following problem:
Charging the phone takes first of all ages to reach 100%. And when it's charged, it will crash about 4 hours later. The battery indicator will be at about 35% or higher just before it crashes (thus not at 0). When I reboot (while charging after the crash) however, it says 0 or 1% left. When I then go to the settings -> about phone -> battery , the battery life just INSTANTLY drops from about 60% to zero (see picture)
This problem appeared pretty out of nowhere. Is this a battery calibration problem, or do you guys think the battery is just at the end of its life? I'm aware that this could just be it since the phone is almost 3 years old (bought on day of release here), but it's just acting so strange.
Any help is appreciated,
Thanks,
Maarten
Try the two obvious things
1- wipe dalvik cache and cache partition
2-wipe battery stats
Can you post a screenshot os the battery usage screen
The level indicator is in the first post, the usage (apps etc) I cannot do right now as after wiping it does not reboot anymore (stuck at HTC screen), but it was about 50% for signal and 50% for standby (or what are the 2 largest users in %, I forgot)
Wipe battery stats or manually delete batterystats.bin. Calibrate it. If nothing works reflash your rom. Not a battery prob.
Odp: battery weird fail/very fast discharge
I had similar situation. Change battery. It is broken probably.
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There seems to be many battery problems for wildfire, I had to abandon mine because of a similar problem, except it would charge to 100% but then drop to 4% within a few hours and wiping battery cache never helped, tried my battery in another wildfire no problems so in the end I gave up with it
But I remember someone saying it was something damaged inside the phone
Anyway good look with your issue hope it gets solved.
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I fixed my booting problem by reflashing the ROM. I also wiped cache/dalvik and battery stats.
The problem remains however. Stays around 100 pretty long, then goes to 80% in less than an hour. And then it crashed around something like 60%. After rebooting it said 34% left.
Guess the only thing else I can try is to completely empty the battery, then recharge it whilst the phone is off.
I'm going to buy a new smartphone soon, so it better just work another month !
wolfway said:
I fixed my booting problem by reflashing the ROM. I also wiped cache/dalvik and battery stats.
The problem remains however. Stays around 100 pretty long, then goes to 80% in less than an hour. And then it crashed around something like 60%. After rebooting it said 34% left.
Guess the only thing else I can try is to completely empty the battery, then recharge it whilst the phone is off.
I'm going to buy a new smartphone soon, so it better just work another month !
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Yea, wipe battery stats again, sue ur phone till its 0% and charge up to 100%, keep on charging for about 20 mins.. try then if battery shoes properly..
Doesn't seem to solve it... Completely emptied the battery (or at least I'd think it is empty, see further), then charged for like 8 hours whilst phone is off, then wiped battery stats in recovery. Then after rebooting first thing it did was crashing again.
The crashes often seem to be related with internet/apps. I now have internet and poweramp app off and it works fine (no crashes), but when I turn these on, sometimes after a minute it crashes, pretty weird
Also after some crashes, about 15 minutes later I can suddenly reboot, then it showed 15%, then it crashed again. After reboot (without any charging) it showed 65%... The indicator is completely ****ed up it seems...
Guess there is nothing to do but getting a new phone as this is too annoying. Thanks for the help though !
Batt voltage meter defect
I have a exacly same problem.
It is the voltage meter problem. Mine wildy shows 4.07V at fully charged battery which if you measure conected battery on its terminals mulitimiter shows 4.273 so its off by 0.2V. Now the phone will never light green led, it think battery is not charged fully. I checek this with 4 years old and new original htc batts. Same thing, voltage meter defect! If you charge it to full, multimeter shows 4.237V on batt terminals,reboot it and get a spike to 92% it suddenly drops to 78% even though mains charger is still connected and charging! Internal Volt meter also reads dorp from 4.07 to 4.02! :crying:
There i also thread on Desire Z forums of same thing happening here.
Is this HTC using crappy mobo components?
vicryl said:
I have a exacly same problem.
It is the voltage meter problem. Mine wildy shows 4.07V at fully charged battery which if you measure conected battery on its terminals mulitimiter shows 4.273 so its off by 0.2V. Now the phone will never light green led, it think battery is not charged fully. I checek this with 4 years old and new original htc batts. Same thing, voltage meter defect! If you charge it to full, multimeter shows 4.237V on batt terminals,reboot it and get a spike to 92% it suddenly drops to 78% even though mains charger is still connected and charging! Internal Volt meter also reads dorp from 4.07 to 4.02! :crying:
There i also thread on Desire Z forums of same thing happening here.
Is this HTC using crappy mobo components?
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Htc wildfire is no more released now. It stopped in 2010. This has the answer. That is one of the bug with wildfire.
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