Or even flash it in At&T SG3. Samsung said the hardware are the same and have all the frequencies. i believe it might not be advertised this way from the carriers. Just thinking out loud.
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Eh, I dont think so. Not at first anyway... after some hackery it might be possible.
The US versions are all the same.
The International version is very different.
It will never work.
I have yet to get 5 bars on my SGS3. Kinda odd.
Not a good idea as someone already stated they're different. I did that once by accident with the original galaxy s. Flashed the canadian firmware for the US version of the phone and ended up bricking it. Not even a jig bought it back to life.
It should work with the at&t and t-mobile sgs3 just like with the skyrocket and t-mobile's sgs2
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It should work with the at&t and t-mobile sgs3 just like with the skyrocket and t-mobile's sgs2
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Are you sure? Can you reference someone or someplace that has had success with this?
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Are you sure? Can you reference someone or someplace that has had success with this?
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The Skyrocket forums.. the AT&T Note also works because it also has the same SoC. The international version will never work with AWS though.
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... if this is true, I'm getting an AT&T S3 at retail and then flash the radio to T-Mobile.
Chances are I won't resist temptation and get the t-mobile one anyway
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... if this is true, I'm getting an AT&T S3 at retail and then flash the radio to T-Mobile.
Chances are I won't resist temptation and get the t-mobile one anyway
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It hasn't been tested yet on the S3. And while it works on the Note, it is far from optimal. I have not read since the early stages but it would freeze and get awful battery life on T-Mobile.
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The US [GSM] models, ok. The international model, 100% no.
And as I understood, the T-Mobile version is pentaband out of the box (it will get AT&T 3G/4G 1900 MHz) because T-Mobile is moving to that frequency. So if anything, get the T-Mobile one and use it on AT&T if you don't care about LTE.
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The US [GSM] models, ok. The international model, 100% no.
And as I understood, the T-Mobile version is pentaband out of the box (it will get AT&T 3G/4G 1900 MHz) because T-Mobile is moving to that frequency. So if anything, get the T-Mobile one and use it on AT&T if you don't care about LTE.
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what about the other way around, since at&t version is cheaper to get than t-mobile? My skyrocket had good battery life when I flashed t-mobile radio on to it...not sure about the note
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what about the other way around, since at&t version is cheaper to get than t-mobile? My skyrocket had good battery life when I flashed t-mobile radio on to it...not sure about the note
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The Note had abysmal battery life from what I read. Just wait for someone to do it (they will) so you don't have to possibly return whichever one you buy.
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It hasn't been tested yet on the S3. And while it works on the Note, it is far from optimal. I have not read since the early stages but it would freeze and get awful battery life on T-Mobile.
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Well the At&T Galaxy Note is what inspired me to think it might be doable!! The At&T Note i have is working fine with Simple Mobile and picking up 4g all the way. the battery sucks anyways even with the At&T modem. Also, you guys should note that stationed in Kuwait and im using the At&T Note with T-mobile modem overseas and still working great. Yes i have 3G as they dont have 4G here. they funny thing is that i still shows 4G and run about 19Mbps in most places.
I can get the international SGIII in Kuwait for $250 16G unlocked (NICE RIGHT?) but when im home i use the Simple mobile network(T-mobile).
you can call it greed but i want to have 2GB RAM, LTE, T-mobile 4G and the ablity to use every network in the world
I hope someone can make this happen
The reason it worked with the AT&T Note is because the T-Mobile S2 used the same SoC (Snapdragons S3). The US Galaxy S3's have Snapdragon S4's, the International has an Exynos 4412. The SoC's (CPU, RAM, Radios, DAC) are COMPLETELY different. It will NOT work. It's not software magic that got the Note to work. It's the fact that it supported the 1700 MHz frequency. The Exynos SoC's radio doesn't. You'll end up bricking the phone and requiring a JTAG.
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The reason it worked with the AT&T Note is because the T-Mobile S2 used the same SoC (Snapdragons S3). The US Galaxy S3's have Snapdragon S4's, the International has an Exynos 4412. The SoC's (CPU, RAM, Radios, DAC) are COMPLETELY different. It will NOT work. It's not software magic that got the Note to work. It's the fact that it supported the 1700 MHz frequency. The Exynos SoC's radio doesn't. You'll end up bricking the phone and requiring a JTAG.
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No one listens to me :'( thanks for the backup Fred. Haha
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To be fair, I never meant the International S3
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Product F(RED) said:
The US [GSM] models, ok. The international model, 100% no.
And as I understood, the T-Mobile version is pentaband out of the box (it will get AT&T 3G/4G 1900 MHz) because T-Mobile is moving to that frequency. So if anything, get the T-Mobile one and use it on AT&T if you don't care about LTE.
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Can you please confirm this, if I get the T-mobile version, and get it unlocked and use my existing AT&T sim on it, it will get 3G/4G speeds?. Would the international version also not give the same?. 4G speeds with AT&T?.
Thanks.
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Can you please confirm this, if I get the T-mobile version, and get it unlocked and use my existing AT&T sim on it, it will get 3G/4G speeds?. Would the international version also not give the same?. 4G speeds with AT&T?.
Thanks.
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I'm using the i9300 (International) on Straight Talk AT&T, which runs on AT&T's base network, and I get full HSPA+ (of course, no LTE). The i9300 runs on AT&T's bands, so if you used it on T-Mobile you'd only get EDGE (for now, because they're moving their network onto the same frequency as AT&T). If the T-Mobile version is indeed pentaband as I suspect, then unlocking it and using it on AT&T will give you the same data speeds as using the international version on AT&T.
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The title says it all im really not sure which one. I have T-Mobile but i can get the AT&T skyrocket now for a little bit cheaper than the T-mobile Galaxy S II. My problem is that i am not down to lose my HSPA+ speeds with T-mobile. Because the phone will be AT&T and not T-mobile. But I do know that the skyrocket does indeed have the T-mobile HSPA+ speeds. I am fairily android savvy so i can most likely figure out all that stuff you know? But if I do go the AT&T route does the phone work flawlessly just like it would as if I had the T-mobile version? Or will battery life take a hit? etc?
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The title says it all im really not sure which one. I have T-Mobile but i can get the AT&T skyrocket now for a little bit cheaper than the T-mobile Galaxy S II. My problem is that i am not down to lose my HSPA+ speeds with T-mobile. Because the phone will be AT&T and not T-mobile. But I do know that the skyrocket does indeed have the T-mobile HSPA+ speeds. I am fairily android savvy so i can most likely figure out all that stuff you know? But if I do go the AT&T route does the phone work flawlessly just like it would as if I had the T-mobile version? Or will battery life take a hit? etc?
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Skyrocket does not support t-mobile's HSPA+ if it did there would be no need for the different variants. If you use 4g get the t989. You can buy it from me if you want i will give you a better deal than your getting i bet
Actually IT does, but how much are you selling yours for?
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The title says it all im really not sure which one. I have T-Mobile but i can get the AT&T skyrocket now for a little bit cheaper than the T-mobile Galaxy S II. My problem is that i am not down to lose my HSPA+ speeds with T-mobile. Because the phone will be AT&T and not T-mobile. But I do know that the skyrocket does indeed have the T-mobile HSPA+ speeds. I am fairily android savvy so i can most likely figure out all that stuff you know? But if I do go the AT&T route does the phone work flawlessly just like it would as if I had the T-mobile version? Or will battery life take a hit? etc?
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You would need to flash a tmobile radio to get 4g.
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I think that the skyrocket is a better phone if only because it has the exynos processor.
8Fishes said:
I think that the skyrocket is a better phone if only because it has the exynos processor.
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No. It doesn't. Stop spreading misinformation.
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I think that the skyrocket is a better phone if only because it has the exynos processor.
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You need to do a bit more research. It does not have the exynos chip set it has the same chip set the t-mobile variant has.
Id get the Skyrocket. Just 'cuz if you ever switch to ATT, you'll get LTE.
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You need to do a bit more research. It does not have the exynos chip set it has the same chip set the t-mobile variant has.
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OH that's right.. I was thinking of the i777.. and not i727. Stupid numbering. I guess there's no reason to get it other than LTE bands? It should have that last I heard.. don't think that's a deal breaker.
I found out quite late that Tmobile is limited to 2G data on IPhones.. (or atleast IPhone 4S). I use TMobile prepaid 3$/day package as my usage is limited and sporadic.
Considering the S3, can anyone please tell me if Samsung has released distinct versions of the S3 for the two networks, or the same model covers both?.
Thanks.
I believe att has the lte version. Yes different phones.
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Thanks Mr?Bmg
I suppose, the question I really wanted to ask was, is one network's version more of an international phone than the other with regards to data?... i.e if I were to take the phone to a)UK/Europe, b) Pakistan,
Would both phone be able to get atleast 3G, or, would the TMobile version still be restricted to EDGE?.
Thanks.
Riz
RizSher said:
Thanks Mr?Bmg
I suppose, the question I really wanted to ask was, is one network's version more of an international phone than the other with regards to data?... i.e if I were to take the phone to a)UK/Europe, b) Pakistan,
Would both phone be able to get atleast 3G, or, would the TMobile version still be restricted to EDGE?.
Thanks.
Riz
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There are different versions of the S3 for both the ATT and TMobile. On the S2, the difference was in the apearance, where the ATT was a little more square like, and TMobile had rounded edges. In the S3 though, the only difference is the name printed on the back (where it has either the Tmobile or the ATT logo). As for the mobile network support, I think that only the radio is different. Even now, you are not limited to 2g by your phone, but rather whatever TMobile decided to give you. Both phones will get atleast 3g. I know that TMobile version does not have LTE support, but im not sure about the ATT version.
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Thanks Mr?Bmg
I suppose, the question I really wanted to ask was, is one network's version more of an international phone than the other with regards to data?... i.e if I were to take the phone to a)UK/Europe, b) Pakistan,
Would both phone be able to get atleast 3G, or, would the TMobile version still be restricted to EDGE?.
Thanks.
Riz
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If you bring an AT&T phone to T-Mobile, you will not get 4G.
You can best 3G if your AT&T Phone has the 1900 range, you can get 3G on T-Mobile's service. Not sure how well it will be since it's only picking 1900 without others.
If you unlock your T-Mobile S3 you should be able to get 3G/HSPA+ on AT&T. The T-Mobile S3 is a pentaband device.
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I found out quite late that Tmobile is limited to 2G data on IPhones.. (or atleast IPhone 4S). I use TMobile prepaid 3$/day package as my usage is limited and sporadic.
Considering the S3, can anyone please tell me if Samsung has released distinct versions of the S3 for the two networks, or the same model covers both?.
Thanks.
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If you are using an iPhone you might as well do the $2 a day since the $3 will only affect you if your phone gets 4G. They will be exactly the same performance on the $2 since it will just be on unlimited EDGE.
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There are different versions of the S3 for both the ATT and TMobile. On the S2, the difference was in the apearance, where the ATT was a little more square like, and TMobile had rounded edges. In the S3 though, the only difference is the name printed on the back (where it has either the Tmobile or the ATT logo). As for the mobile network support, I think that only the radio is different. Even now, you are not limited to 2g by your phone, but rather whatever TMobile decided to give you. Both phones will get atleast 3g. I know that TMobile version does not have LTE support, but im not sure about the ATT version.
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The AT&T version does not get 3G on T-Mobile save for a few sporadic locations across the states. And yes, it also has LTE.
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The AT&T version does not get 3G on T-Mobile save for a few sporadic locations across the states. And yes, it also has LTE.
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I also want to know about this
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I also want to know about this
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Know about what?
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I've got an unlocked AT&T Galaxy SIII, and I only get Edge for my data connection. Do I need to flash a T-Mobile radio? APN settings look okay, as far as I can see.
Also, can I flash a T-Mobile ROM and use Wifi calling, or is that asking too much?
I searched and couldn't find anyone asking these questions in the Q&A forum....
there are already like 3 threads below this one concerning the 3g/4g topic on a att sg3 working on tmobile. No it will not work because att sg3 does not support the aws tmobile frequencies. you will only be able to get edge. NOW if it were a tmobile sg3 on att then it would work.
All the threads I could find in this form on my search went the other way: T-Mo phone on AT&T.
Does anyone actually know whether a T-Mobile modem on an AT&T phone would work or not? I looked at the main board in my phone, and it's labelled with both SGH-I747 and SGH-T999, which makes me think the internals are fully identical.
I'd like to know this too! I also have an AT&T Galaxy SIII and was seriously considering moving to T-Mobile because of the new unlimited data plan they were going to start offering on 9/5. I had also looked through this forum, and could only find questions of the situation the other way around, T-Mob GSIII phone on AT&T network.
Basically, was wondering:
- is there a hardware limitation that APN settings and/or installing a new modem will not get me good data speeds?
- would I need to burn a new modem?
- I'm assuming at minimum I'd need new APN settings, and am assuming T-Mobile would be able to help with that. Right?
Thanks, really interested in being able to do this!
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Hey oblib - looks like there's an unfortunate hardware limitation we won't be able to get around: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1771021
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All the threads I could find in this form on my search went the other way: T-Mo phone on AT&T.
Does anyone actually know whether a T-Mobile modem on an AT&T phone would work or not? I looked at the main board in my phone, and it's labelled with both SGH-I747 and SGH-T999, which makes me think the internals are fully identical.
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Where did you see that the boards were labelled the same?
AFAIK, the radio's are different and flashing a T-mobile modem could possibly brick your device. It would be much easier to buy a T999 and use it on T-Mobile (it'll even work on AT&T 3G if you want to switch back, no LTE though).
The SoCs are different. Flashing a T-Mobile modem will not give you T-Mobile HSPA.
Looks like I didn't take any pictures of that side of the phone while I had it open, and I'm not eager to pop it open again. It definitely listed both models on the PCB. If I'm remembering correctly, it's on the same side as the SIM and SD card slots, so it's just matter of removing the back plate to see it, no more disassembly than that.
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The SoCs are different. Flashing a T-Mobile modem will not give you T-Mobile HSPA.
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Do you have part numbers for the two? According to wikipedia, they are the same Snapdragon S4 MSM8960. I just find it hard to believe that they would be different, though if they have the same pinout, that would explain the markings on my PCB.
This has been rehashed countless times. They are not the same phone. If the phones were the same, people would not be in here asking if they were the same. The MSM8960 comes in more than one flavor, with different modem parts. Yes, the CPU's are the same, but the MODEMS ARE DIFFERENT. It is an S4 Qualcomm part that comes in many different configurations. Instead of just reading until you get to some information that reinforces your preconceived notion, try reading a little further into the links at the bottom of the page and elsewhere. Seriously, if you really really don't think that Qualcomm would make different versions of the same chip, or configure them differently for the hundreds of different customer requirements, then fine, don't believe me, but it defies logic. Sorry about being an ass.
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Looks like I didn't take any pictures of that side of the phone while I had it open, and I'm not eager to pop it open again. It definitely listed both models on the PCB. If I'm remembering correctly, it's on the same side as the SIM and SD card slots, so it's just matter of removing the back plate to see it, no more disassembly than that.
Do you have part numbers for the two? According to wikipedia, they are the same Snapdragon S4 MSM8960. I just find it hard to believe that they would be different, though if they have the same pinout, that would explain the markings on my PCB.
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The T-Mobile version uses an MSM8260a. This SoC is the Krait with an adreno 225 GPU and no LTE. The MSM8960 has all three.
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The T-Mobile version uses an MSM8260a. This SoC is the Krait with an adreno 225 GPU and no LTE. The MSM8960 has all three.
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Thanks for the useful response. For those looking for even more detail, here's a link: http://www.qualcomm.com/sites/default/files/common/snapdragon-specs-06.07.12.pdf
According to that the MSM8960 (chip in I747?) has a "World Mode" modem, while the MSM8260a has a UMTS modem.
Edit: Ah, and I see both of you have answered this question before, which I would have found if I searched on MSM8260a. The threads have been dead for over a week, so I'm not surprised I missed them, but thanks for answering the same questions again.
T-Mobile HSPA not support i747 right now.
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I've got an unlocked AT&T Galaxy SIII, and I only get Edge for my data connection. Do I need to flash a T-Mobile radio? APN settings look okay, as far as I can see.
Also, can I flash a T-Mobile ROM and use Wifi calling, or is that asking too much?
I searched and couldn't find anyone asking these questions in the Q&A forum....
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T-Mobile uses a frequency for their 3g and 4g network that only T-Mobile branded phones have. Any other GSM phone will never get 3g or 4g on T-Mobile network unless it supports the T-Mobile band, which I believe is 1700MHz. It's limited by hardware. Nothing you can do to the phone will give you the 3g/4g you have to have a T-Mobile branded device.
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T-Mobile uses a frequency for their 3g and 4g network that only T-Mobile branded phones have. Any other GSM phone will never get 3g or 4g on T-Mobile network unless it supports the T-Mobile band, which I believe is 1700MHz. It's limited by hardware. Nothing you can do to the phone will give you the 3g/4g you have to have a T-Mobile branded device.
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Not completely true. Since The Galaxy SII and the Galaxy Note (AT&T) have software radios, you can flash a radio from the TMO GSII and get 4G on TMO. I was running mine and many customers of mine like that for months until i switched phones.
Making your AT&T i747 GS3 work on T-Mobile 4G (without rooting)
oblib__ said:
I've got an unlocked AT&T Galaxy SIII, and I only get Edge for my data connection. Do I need to flash a T-Mobile radio? APN settings look okay, as far as I can see.
Also, can I flash a T-Mobile ROM and use Wifi calling, or is that asking too much?
I searched and couldn't find anyone asking these questions in the Q&A forum....
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It works fine for me, the area i'm in does not support 4G on the 1900MHz frequency so I can definitely confirm my stock non-rooted AT&T i747 galaxy SIII is working on T-Mobile USA's 4G data network. I've uploaded a video to youtube of how to get this to work, should also work for the AT&T i317 note II as well. I can't post links on here I guess so just type my youtube username and search my videos.
youtube username: 6italia0
Video title: How to get AT&T gs3 i747 to work with Tmobile 4G (no root!)
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It works fine for me, the area i'm in does not support 4G on the 1900MHz frequency so I can definitely confirm my stock non-rooted AT&T i747 galaxy SIII is working on T-Mobile USA's 4G data network. I've uploaded a video to youtube of how to get this to work, should also work for the AT&T i317 note II as well. I can't post links on here I guess so just type my youtube username and search my videos.
youtube username: 6italia0
Video title: How to get AT&T gs3 i747 to work with Tmobile 4G (no root!)
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I think you just got it to work because T-Mobile launched 1900Mhz 4G starting 2013?
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I think you just got it to work because T-Mobile launched 1900Mhz 4G starting 2013?
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ive got a friend whos got this working, im gonna try and let you know!
I just picked up a t-mobile sim on ebay for a florida trip in a few weeks. Im hoping to get the $3 a day plan for my unlocked Galaxy s3 and hoping to get 1900mhz 4g service.
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Same with the s2 flash an tmobile radio combo on the skyrocket and get 4g but with the s3 might be different
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IT CAN WORK (see details!)
elesbb said:
T-Mobile uses a frequency for their 3g and 4g network that only T-Mobile branded phones have. Any other GSM phone will never get 3g or 4g on T-Mobile network unless it supports the T-Mobile band, which I believe is 1700MHz. It's limited by hardware. Nothing you can do to the phone will give you the 3g/4g you have to have a T-Mobile branded device.
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This is NOT TRUE, please be careful when making such "absolute" statements -- I just got a ATT i747 from craigslist, and it DOES work with the $30 Walmart plan - on 4G and LTE (depending on location).
The TRUE ANSWER IS -- IT DEPENDS -- if you live in an area that was recently upgraded to LTE (in my area was 02/13), you can get LTE/4G since t-mobile added support for it on 700 MHz (band 4) AWS (unverified - source: youtube video named "Tmobile 4G on att i747 gs3 data fix". Sorry I am not allowed to post web-links yet).
Anyway, I DO get 4G/LTE, I guess I was lucky
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This is NOT TRUE, please be careful when making such "absolute" statements -- I just got a ATT i747 from craigslist, and it DOES work with the $30 Walmart plan - on 4G and LTE (depending on location).
The TRUE ANSWER IS -- IT DEPENDS -- if you live in an area that was recently upgraded to LTE (in my area was 02/13), you can get LTE/4G since t-mobile added support for it on 700 MHz (band 4) AWS (unverified - source: youtube video named "Tmobile 4G on att i747 gs3 data fix". Sorry I am not allowed to post web-links yet).
Anyway, I DO get 4G/LTE, I guess I was lucky
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You do realize you resurrected an old thread, and responded to a post that was made a year ago??? Long before LTE rolled out. At the time of his post, he was 100% correct.
I dont think this is the intended way to get your 10 posts btw. There are plenty of recent issues to respond to. Thx.
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All I'd need to do is just flash at&t device specific roms right? I shouldn't need to flash flash t-mobile modems would I?
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All I'd need to do is just flash at&t device specific roms right? I shouldn't need to flash flash t-mobile modems would I?
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you will be able to make phone calls and text people no problem.
the only problem you will have is going to be data connectivity and data speeds because the NOTE2 for AT&T is meant to be used with AT&T LTE.
T mobile's main data band is 1700 which the AT&T phones usually do not have.
To answer your baseband or modem question I believe this thread does not have a modem or baseband for T mobile. You might have luck looking over at their forums, I am not sure.
Good luck to you sir.
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you will be able to make phone calls and text people no problem.
the only problem you will have is going to be data connectivity and data speeds because the NOTE2 for AT&T is meant to be used with AT&T LTE.
T mobile's main data band is 1700 which the AT&T phones usually do not have.
To answer your baseband or modem question I believe this thread does not have a modem or baseband for T mobile. You might have luck looking over at their forums, I am not sure.
Good luck to you sir.
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Hrmm the good news is T-Mobile told me they'd have LTE Coverage in April. I wonder if that'll change anything then for me?
I have a Dell Streak 5 on T-Mobile, don't have any problems.
n1nj4Lo said:
Hrmm the good news is T-Mobile told me they'd have LTE Coverage in April. I wonder if that'll change anything then for me?
I have a Dell Streak 5 on T-Mobile, don't have any problems.
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Again. Different frequencies and you'll still be on edge
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n1nj4Lo said:
Hrmm the good news is T-Mobile told me they'd have LTE Coverage in April. I wonder if that'll change anything then for me?
I have a Dell Streak 5 on T-Mobile, don't have any problems.
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The Dell Streak 5 is like the Nexus 4 it has all the HSPA bands. The LTE band for T mobile most likely will be different from AT&T. You can try to unlock it and compare the coverage and speed to your dell streak. I had a dell streak. Great phone!! sold it about a month ago for like 180 bucks.
My suggestion if the unlocked AT&T Note 2 isnt working properly and you want to stay with T MOBILE I would sell it and get the international version.
What you need to is search for how to "enable aws" and you will have 4g working on your device.
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Found this, I'll be trying it tomorrow when my phone arrives:
How to Enable T-Mobile 3G/4G AWS Bands on AT&T Galaxy Note 2 SGH-i317!
Yea but you still won't have lte
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hyelton said:
Yea but you still won't have lte
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Well yeah there's no LTE with T-Mobile anyway
hyelton said:
Yea but you still won't have lte
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Technically no T-Mo customer has LTE yet, until April or so I've been told.
Unless you can predict the future or something, then no one knows for sure.
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Well yeah there's no LTE with T-Mobile anyway
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LoL! I was getting ready to say that.
All I can do is keep my fingers crossed and hope T-Mo uses the same freq as AT&T's LTE...
Then again given the circumstances of T-Mobile shortly taking over MetroPCS for their LTE coverage, they may have a larger or wider band of LTE frequency ranges.
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I will apparently have T-Mo's 42MBPS HSPA+ as opposed to AT&T's 21MBPS HSPA+
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Then again, that was my whole intentions of getting an AT&T Note 2 as to T-Mo's Note 2, I've been told there's no LTE Support for the T-Mobile version, but with AT&T I'd have more likely of a chance at having LTE support, once it's available... I still don't to this day don't get why T-Mobile released a crippled down version knowing that they'd have LTE in the near future.
I just didn't know it wouldn't work right away straight outta the box.
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Technically no T-Mo customer has LTE yet, until April or so I've been told.
Unless you can predict the future or something, then no one knows for sure.LoL! I was getting ready to say that.
All I can do is keep my fingers crossed and hope T-Mo uses the same freq as AT&T's LTE...
Then again given the circumstances of T-Mobile shortly taking over MetroPCS for their LTE coverage, they may have a larger or wider band of LTE frequency ranges.
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I will apparently have T-Mo's 42MBPS HSPA+ as opposed to AT&T's 21MBPS HSPA+
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Then again, that was my whole intentions of getting an AT&T Note 2 as to T-Mo's Note 2, I've been told there's no LTE Support for the T-Mobile version, but with AT&T I'd have more likely of a chance at having LTE support, once it's available... I still don't to this day don't get why T-Mobile released a crippled down version knowing that they'd have LTE in the near future.
I just didn't know it wouldn't work right away straight outta the box.
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Have they specified when they would deploy the network? Even if they did they would start in few markets and by the time there is enough coverage the Note 3 will be out
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Have they specified when they would deploy the network? Even if they did they would start in few markets and by the time there is enough coverage the Note 3 will be out
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Nope they didn't specify anything with me just said the line "We'll have LTE in April" I'm going to the corperate office tomorrow or friday to get my micro sim and will ask them more about it then, if they know anything else. See if I need an lte micro sim or what and all that.
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T-Mobile’s Chief Technology Officer Neville Ray discussed his company’s LTE rollout last month at CES. T-Mobile has said it plans to launch LTE for 100 million pops by mid-year, with 200 million covered by the end of 2013. Las Vegas is expected to be T-Mobile’s first LTE city. T-Mobile operates GSM on 1900 MHz (PCS) in the US and puts HSPA (and LTE) on the AWS band (1.7/2.1 GHz).
http://www.dailywireless.org/2013/02/18/t-mobile-lte-advanced-rollout
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It says sometime between March 27th and April 3rd by the latest. What lte frequencies are AT&T's lte?
Unlocked at&t Note 2on t-mobile with 4g
I got an unlocked At&t Note 2 on T-mobile network with 4g im running Cleanrom S.E. 1.5 and everything works perfect. I had the same problem at 1st but i had a buddy change my Network to t-Mobile and it works fine im getting 10-12 Mbs download and 1.8 - 2.4 upload:cyclops:
T-Mobile will use band 4 LTE, AT&T uses band 4,13,17.
how did you guys get your g note II to tmobile anyways thats what im tring to do
jett1217 said:
how did you guys get your g note II to tmobile anyways thats what im tring to do
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First you need to unlock it. Start here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38134975
Keep in mind that you need to be on the 4.1.1 firmware in order for that unlock to work...
Just my 2¢®
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Well isnt that some useful info! Thanks for the unlock info I will be downgrading lol....Im with the guy above though did you have to flash a tmobile modem? Im running jedi rom for t889 on my i317 but was curious about flashing the modem and stuff.
What did you guys do to get tmobile 3g,4g and lte fully working on the i317? I have installed the jedi rom and all is working fine besides I have edge...So hopefully I can get a straight forward answer. My eyes are sore from reading.
And QPST is not working for me for QCN at all my phone is on com5 but when I go to get qcn says no phone connected....
After considering a number of things I've been led on deciding I'd probably want to get an S4 over the other currently available smartphones. I've held off because I had wanted a more premium feeling phone other than plastic, but I realize now I can easily buy an aluminum backing+bumper replacement to give it that look and feel.
Anyways now to the question part of it... I was preferring an unlocked device, but the Internationally sold i9505 and i9500 do not have faster than 3G in the US, or so I've read.
I'm not looking to get a specific phone service right away, for now I want a solid device I'll be happy with for some years to come. Mainly as a portable device with storage and apps, and a little down the road to use it as my mobile phone.
I need some confirmation, but from what I understand the T-Mobile version would probably be the best? Due to once unlocked you can use it on both T-Mobile, or AT&T with 4G/LTE speeds. Also I am led to believe the AT&T S4 does not have the right frequencies for T-Mobile 4G/LTE.
Aside the above wireless speed question, I'd like to know:
1. What would be the point in flashing the i9505/i9500 ROM on the T-Mobile version? To remove T-Mobile association more from the phone... boot screen/software?
2. Does T-Mobile actually sell their version of the S4 at full price, not linked to any plan? Will they provide an unlock code same day, assuming I don't use the free method posted publically. I'm dreading the possibility of having to jump through hoops.
Below I have summerized what I understand about a few non-carrier specific phones....
i9505: International LTE "not working in USA", quad core CPU.
i9500: International 8 core CPU, better GPU.
S4 Google Edition: 4G/LTE capabile, Quad Core CPU, No touchwiz, comes in white color only.
Anyways looking for S4 owner's knowledge, experience and opinions here!
if youre going to pay full price you might want to consider the LTE-A version aka snapdragon 800 version
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Gal...1271471972?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item3384ceb764
32gb+snapdragon 800
According to that auction, it says it wont have 4G/LTE in the US? "I'm a frequency noob" One of my concerns was having something I could use on either TMobile or AT&T so I have options... if I was just looking at a 3g phone and cpu power I could just do this, or the i9500 "8 cores".
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According to that auction, it says it wont have 4G/LTE in the US? "I'm a frequency noob" One of my concerns was having something I could use on either TMobile or AT&T so I have options... if I was just looking at a 3g phone and cpu power I could just do this, or the i9500 "8 cores".
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it gets hspa+ on tmobile and att it might be able to use LTE-A when tmobile and att add it to their networks
and the 8core isnt really 8 core its 4+4 = 4 low power 4 high power cores, only 1 pair of cores work at a time so its only quad core
Several threads say the 9505 can work on TMobile if you flash a compatible kernel but the 9500 is not compatible. With regard to AT&T vs. TMO compatibility, search for AWS mod. A T-Mobile salesman told me he got his girlfriend's AT&T phone to work on TMO network using that patch.
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@OP
My experience is that yes, I could buy the S4 from TMO without plan, just pre-paid with a small credit. I do not live in the US,and had no problem with documentation or payment. Of course it is full price.
What the sales person told me is they will give you an unlock code only after 3 months if you are using it, reloading credit I guess. This doesn't work at all for me, but unlocking is actually real easy with the Samsun embedded app. I bought the phone and tried, it worked immediately (if it doesn't you can hand it back and have it refunded, for the restocking fee of 50USD).
Recently I used the ROM code here from Jamal (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2348272), to turn the M919 TMO into a i9505 Nexus. For me it is a massive improvement as I just cannot stand bloatware. It also free up much memory, and battery lasts longer.
The 9505 and 9500 will not get you LTE nor H+ on T-Mobile.
They will ONLY *possibly* get you 4G on AT&T.
The AT&T S4 is locked, yes. Your best bet is the T-Mobile S4.
You can flash 9505 ROMs on the T-Mobile version as well as some other ones.
Additionally, the development for the T-Mobile s4 is outstanding.
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How do the Verizon and Sprint Galaxy S4 compare to the T-Mobile S4?
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How do the Verizon and Sprint Galaxy S4 compare to the T-Mobile S4?
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cant use them on tmobile - cdma phones
haldi15 said:
cant use them on tmobile - cdma phones
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I hear the Verizon S4 has a SIM card. Aren't SIM cards for GSM phones?
Hi,
I m also freq noob and as much as I have searched the forum I cannot find the answer...I have SGH-M919 TMO and I am using it in Serbia but have network problems: receiving missed call TXT msg from operator, dropping out of network and difficulty in reconnecting to home network (need restarting).
Since TMO version supports all bands what can be the problem that phone is acting like that?
It works fine when i m on the network...we dont have LTE here nor will we for some time...
Please some help/direction to the thread dealing with this kind of problem...
Thanks
I had a stock unlocked att s4 on T-Mobile getting LTE without any mods.
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