Hy community,
I once was a newbie on XDA (and still am ^^), but with the time I understood more and more things, now I want to give back and condensate the Information I got to answer questions I see often in multiple threads.
there are more and more questions about sense and roms and SOFF and if your phone can control your mind if you take an image of a brain as your wallpaper...
So here is the
officially unofficial "Question's you better not ask"
thread.
Feel free to add your 2 cents in the comments, I will try to keep this updated with your ideas
The goal of this thread is to inform the users, in order to avoid them asking those things and getting angry answers or blocking real dev work on threads.
Does this AOKP/CM9/AOSP Rom have sense ? :silly:
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No ! It's like if you were asking if Linux has windows in it, if a Ferrari has a Dacia in it...
Explanation : Sense is a framework, it's like wrapped over the android OS. AOKP/AOSP/CM9 based roms are free of this framework and based on the original google android source code.
In the same idea, a sense rom doesn't contain CM9, but you can make it look like with themes or a "de-sensing".
For this exact reason, you need to wipe your phone before installing a non-sense rom over a sense one (or the other side) (even if you should wipe when going from one rom to another, sense or not.
Does this AOKP/CM9/AOSP rom contain the sense cam
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No, It has to do with what is written in the first explanation.
Explanation : Most sense apps and widgets are linked to the sense framework, some more, some less, making it theoretically possible to port those apps to a fully sense framework free environement. However, the camera is solidely attached to the framework, it may be possible, but don't hope for it soon
Can I flash the boot.img from "rom A" on "rom B" ?
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And still the answer is : NO ! you will end in a bootloop.
Explanation : The Boot.img contains many stuff like kernel, ramdisk... and this ramdisk is different for most of the rom's and a boot.img will only fully work with an adequate ramdisk.
However, you can repack the kernell with the zImage tool which is to be found in the forums.
Can I flash the modules of Kernel A while using Kernel B ?
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Get used to it: no...
A specific module is for a specific Kernel. The end.
What is a RUU ?
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the RUU (ROM UPDATE UTILITY)
its pretty much a FACTORY RESET master file, as it resets everything HBOOT/RADIO/ROM. (thanks bagofcrap24)
Hope I could help some of you
It's open to you to contribute to the community and help the once which have less knowledge than you
Cheers
Waist
It's obvious you've spend 'a lot' of time with the intro of this thread.
But all you write is old news as all is written already, 'instructions enough'.
To my opinion this thread won't help anybody because people who don't like to read won't read anyway,
so this thread is another clutter, nothing more to my opinion as it don't bring anything new.
Mods please close?
Thanks!
Laurentius26 said:
It's obvious you've spend 'a lot' of time with the intro of this thread.
But all you write is old news as all is written already, 'instructions enough'.
To my opinion this thread won't help anybody because people who don't like to read won't read anyway,
so this thread is another clutter, nothing more to my opinion as it don't bring anything new.
Mods please close?
Thanks!
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When I started on XDA I was searching for a recap like this, people not wanting to read throught hundreds of pages of a well-filled thread is not meaning they won't read a recapitulative thread...
Is a post trying to help others such a pain for you ? If this can help one person and avoid a single useless post on a single thread I will be more than happy.
I hope you can revise your judgment...
You just created a extra thread, nope I won't revise my statement.
Probably you have good intensions, but to my opinion this thread is clutter and a waist.
ChriKn said:
When I started on XDA I was searching for a recap like this, people not wanting to read throught hundreds of pages of a well-filled thread is not meaning they won't read a recapitulative thread...
Is a post trying to help others such a pain for you ? If this can help one person and avoid a single useless post on a single thread I will be more than happy.
I hope you can revise your judgment...
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Laurentius26 said:
You just created a extra thread, nope I won't revise my statement.
Probably you have good intensions, but to my opinion this thread is clutter and a waist.
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The fact that you see I have good intensions is enough for me
Laurentius26 said:
It's obvious you've spend 'a lot' of time with the intro of this thread.
But all you write is old news as all is written already, 'instructions enough'.
To my opinion this thread won't help anybody because people who don't like to read won't read anyway,
so this thread is another clutter, nothing more to my opinion as it don't bring anything new.
Mods please close?
Thanks!
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I agree. This is the strangest forum I've participated in on XDA. Here's some personality categories I’ve observed.
* Narcissist’s - in spite of a topic or point being posted multiple times in an already open thread, people feel that they're experiencing of an issue is somehow more important than anyone/everyone else's. They have no problem starting a new thread saying "I know this has been posted before, but..." Hint: before you post, ask yourself are you posting for the benefit of others or for yourself?
* Newbies with Attitudes - Not picking on this user in particular but this is an excellent example.
RADLOUNI said:
I am totally furious about the fact that HTC released an ICS phone with a GB kernel. Sorry if it sounds negative but this is plain deception, and disrespect to its base of customers. Other vendors without mentioning the name has released their phone with a decent ICS kernel.
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Not only is it naive, it's wrong. Had it been posted as a question "what's the difference between the 2.X and 3.X kernel?" the poster would have realized s/he's uninformed. Hint: instead of coming out with both guns blazing, ask a question rather than making a statement if you're not sure about what you're talking about.
* Martyrs - Yes, the One X has launch issues. More than it should. They're all well known by now. Similar to the narcissists, the martyrs relish reiterating the same complaints amongst themselves in page after page in a thread. Hint: No one here can help you. Rather than ***** pointlessly figure out how to get your problem resolved. I'm not having any problems but it took me all of five minutes to find the two most senior HTC execs in Europe that oversee customer service so those with issues could have someone to write to and seek help. Hint: Don't just post "*****es," post potential remedies.
There are other personality categories unique to the One X forum but you get my point. I love my One X but sure wish it came with SGS3 forum.
Can someone please tell me what a ruu is?
I'm used to Samsung devices.
Verstuurd van mijn HTC One X met Tapatalk
Google it, but I understand that's hard for you if you always used Sumsung.
mathijs727 said:
Can someone please tell me what a ruu is?
I'm used to Samsung devices.
Verstuurd van mijn HTC One X met Tapatalk
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mathijs727 said:
Can someone please tell me what a ruu is?
I'm used to Samsung devices.
Verstuurd van mijn HTC One X met Tapatalk
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the RUU (ROM UPDATE UTILITY)
its pretty much a FACTORY RESET master file
as in it resets everything HBOOT/RADIO/ROM
the closest equivelent i can think of is like ODIN for samsung
you download the latest RUU for your phone
in my case generic (ruu_endeavor_u_ics_40_htc_europe_1.29.401.11_radio_1.1204.105.14_release_260491_signed_c9d22.exe)
plug your oneX in and run it, it will fully return your phone to stock
mathijs727 said:
Can someone please tell me what a ruu is?
I'm used to Samsung devices.
Verstuurd van mijn HTC One X met Tapatalk
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A RUU is the full ROM installation utility from HTC, using it will fully reset your phone to the same state when you bought it (only thing it won't change is the fact your phone is locked/unlocked if I remember well), can't tell you what it wouldb be in Samsung-land ut probably samsungs Odin flashable base rom.
Hope I could help
"burned" ^^
Sweet. :cyclops: ^^
Hopefully when this thread has 56 pages people still bother to find the time to have a search about the answers.
And remember if you just search the word >> 'RUU'...... (top right corner of XDA )
But your time and effort is much appriciated I ques.
Time for me to live this thread it's own live and 'unscribe' as I'm getting nuts of the notifications already.
bagofcrap24 said:
the RUU (ROM UPDATE UTILITY)
its pretty much a FACTORY RESET master file
as in it resets everything HBOOT/RADIO/ROM
the closest equivelent i can think of is like ODIN for samsung
you download the latest RUU for your phone
in my case generic (ruu_endeavor_u_ics_40_htc_europe_1.29.401.11_radio_1.1204.105.14_release_260491_signed_c9d22.exe)
plug your oneX in and run it, it will fully return your phone to stock
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ChriKn said:
A RUU is the full ROM installation utility from HTC, using it will fully reset your phone to the same state when you bought it (only thing it won't change is the fact your phone is locked/unlocked if I remember well), can't tell you what it wouldb be in Samsung-land ut probably samsungs Odin flashable base rom.
Hope I could help
"burned" ^^
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Laurentius26 said:
Sweet. :cyclops: ^^
Hopefully when this thread has 56 pages people still bother to find the time to have a search about the answers.
And remember if you just search the word >> 'RUU'...... (top right corner of XDA )
But your time and effort is much appriciated I ques.
Time for me to live this thread it's own live and 'unscribe' as I'm getting nuts of the notifications already.
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Lords and Lady's, let me present you the angry person not even trying to see that the OP has been updated with the new question and answers.
Clap clap for his herpaderp !
Now please, let people decide themselves if they want to help each other and go kill some ants in your backyard, you need to cool down a bit...
I'm not angry and I don't need to cool down but thank you!
Please, go read back and tell me what you learned from this thread?
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Lords and Lady's, let me present you the angry person not even trying to see that the OP has been updated with the new answers.
Clap clap for his herpaderp !
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I'm not angry, thank you!
Please, go read back and tell me what you learned from this thread?
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That it seems to be your pleasure to ruin an effort to help people which might not be as well informed as you are, to criticize without any reasons they way I spend my free time trying to help (even if I only can offer a bit).
Go on, say what you want, my part of this discussion is done and I'm really sorry for this thread to have become such a mess because of one single person.
Nope I'm not trying to ruin an effort, I'm just trying to make a point clear.
I already told the Op that I understand his effort.
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That it seems to be your pleasure to ruin an effort to help people which might not be as well informed as you are, to criticize without any reasons they way I spend my free time trying to help (even if I only can offer a bit).
Go on, say what you want, my part of this discussion is done and I'm really sorry for this thread to have become such a mess because of one single person.
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ChriKn said:
That it seems to be your pleasure to ruin an effort to help people .
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I find this especially galling considering that between us Laurentius26 and I have 1,600 "thanks" and you have a whopping 16. Your heart is in the right place, your approach needs work.
This might help new users to get them started @ XDA
To OP: Good work mate .. This is how most of us started
Closing thread as we have already guides with the same topics you kindly posted here.
Besides going off topic
Related
Just wondering - there seems to be across various threads hints at reasons not too, such as iffy GPS & battery performance hit.
Anything I should be aware of before I try ( just made a Goldard )
If you screw up the Apps2SD installation, you can kiss your USB functionality goodbye. It's less concerning because it's affecting very few people, but it's more concerning because nobody really knows why it happens in the first place. They're still working on possible fixes.
I've experienced better battery life, myself.
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Just wondering - there seems to be across various threads hints at reasons not too, such as iffy GPS & battery performance hit.
Anything I should be aware of before I try ( just made a Goldard )
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Search! Read! Post new thread anyway? Sigh!!!
I came on the forum for a look around about 45 minutes ago, ever since I have been reading and reporting threads (as per recent mod request) that shouldn't exist in the first place.
Please search, read, learn instead, far more fruitful and doesn't damage the forum usability for everyone else.
Good thread. I learned something here.
Go easy on the OP.
It's not that easy to search and find the older threads because few people tag their threads. In this case he did fine the threads but perhaps he wants to know in the context of THIS phone? Also, this thingy evolves very fast so an updated info is probably warranted.
Sorry j-zeus if I was a little over zealous there. This was about the fifth thread I had come across. I'm sure you can appreciate the irony of stating in your OP that you had found other threads on the subject but that you had decided to start a new one anyway.
Anyway, I didn't mean to be rude or combative, I just wanted to point you in the right direction for future posts. It really does make life easier if the forum is well organized without multiple threads on the same subject.
Cheers.
One reason NOT to root now that I could think of:
Google IO is only few weeks from now (May 19-20), there they will most probably announce Froyo, Android 2.2.
It would be wise to wait what will come out.
APP2SD will be native if they include it in 2.2 (I [email protected]!).
@ farnsbarns
No worries - I do know how to search and did. I find it somewhat over the top as it throws up 28 thousand snippets of information that you have to trawl through only to find it's out of date already - and for a non techie like me this leads to masses of confusion. I post the question to get the latest feedback, not stuff from 2 months ago ( also as posted it helps others too ).
1 reason is: it wipes your phone and you get a random other rom, which might have stuff missing you are used to.
sense for example is missing for sure.
This is the kind of thread where my sig really makes a lot of sense...
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@ farnsbarns
No worries - I do know how to search and did. I find it somewhat over the top as it throws up 28 thousand snippets of information that you have to trawl through only to find it's out of date already - and for a non techie like me this leads to masses of confusion. I post the question to get the latest feedback, not stuff from 2 months ago ( also as posted it helps others too ).
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I agree the search facility is not the best on this forum and after searching for a few hours its easier to give up as i have normally lost the will to live by then.
and it's funny that there's an exact same thread right below this one.
snudel said:
1 reason is: it wipes your phone and you get a random other rom, which might have stuff missing you are used to.
sense for example is missing for sure.
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Sense is only missing if you... pick a ROM that's missing Sense. That's a very silly and misleading thing to say.
The default rootedupdate.zip that's provided with the unlocking method is just the stock ROM with root; it still has Sense. Half the ROMs on XDA for the Desire still have Sense. Saying you lose Sense when you get root is just flat-out false.
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This is the kind of thread where my sig really makes a lot of sense...
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LOL - thats a big 10/4 Papa Bear
Mokurex
"and it's funny that there's an exact same thread right below this one. "
That's not my fault - the thread was moved!!!
Although this is now going off topic can I say I agree the search on here is ****. Plus, if people keep having a go at people for starting new threads then you will probably finds this will stop people from posting what might be valuable info for fear of being rebuked.
And yes, why do people feel the need to preach about seaching? Get a feckin life!!!!
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Although this is now going off topic can I say I agree the search on here is ****. Plus, if people keep having a go at people for starting new threads then you will probably finds this will stop people from posting what might be valuable info for fear of being rebuked.
And yes, why do people feel the need to preach about seaching? Get a feckin life!!!!
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Thats not on really, I did try the search before I added my post and I was easily able to find threads relating to this topic which is where this question should have been posted. Even the OP acknowledges the existence of other threads in the.. er... OP.
I added a note to the J-Zeus in case he/she felt my response was over zealous as upon re-reading it it does sound a little sarcastic and he/she has responded amicably. The thread has been moved since my post.
I have been using this forum ever since I got involved in hacking my XDAII (new account since then as lost my details) and the desire section is the messiest I've seen, I guess because this is the first iPhone killing android phone and has proven to be unbelievably popular. I was only trying to ensure this forum remains usable, ordered and collaborative.
What I said was in line with the forum rules, your response isn't.
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@ farnsbarns
No worries - I do know how to search and did. I find it somewhat over the top as it throws up 28 thousand snippets of information that you have to trawl through only to find it's out of date already - and for a non techie like me this leads to masses of confusion. I post the question to get the latest feedback, not stuff from 2 months ago ( also as posted it helps others too ).
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Coolio!
BTW I don't know if you have spotted but there are 3 search tools on the forum. The one at the top between new posts and quick links is a...
'site:xda-developers.com <your term here>' Google search.
But once you are in a thread, at the top of the OP there is the option to 'search this thread' which may help out in some searches as it is, of course, limited to the current thread only.
In any given forum section, in the same position, there is the option to 'search this forum'
gogol said:
One reason NOT to root now that I could think of:
Google IO is only few weeks from now (May 19-20), there they will most probably announce Froyo, Android 2.2.
It would be wise to wait what will come out.
APP2SD will be native if they include it in 2.2 (I [email protected]!).
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So Desire will get an update from Android 2.1 to Android 2.2 (Froyo) ?
So Desire will get an update from Android 2.1 to Android 2.2 (Froyo) ?
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By no means guaranteed but hopefully! I am sure they will make it exclucive to the N1 for a while. Even if there is no official update I rather suspect it'll find it's way onto the device through the Devs here and else where.
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By no means guaranteed but hopefully! I am sure they will make it exclucive to the N1 for a while. Even if there is no official update I rather suspect it'll find it's way onto the device through the Devs here and else where.
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IMO that would be very strage if Desire wont get Froyo and would be dated after two months.
But I have seen Google Nexus One with Desire's OS, which means we will be able to put Nexus One's or Magic's Froyo if it wont be offered officialy ?
HELP.
I was switching between an HTC Sense Rom and Gingerbread roms by using clockwork
Recovery 3.0.5 and selecting install.zip from SD card. Any rom that i try and install
Gets to flashing kernel and then produces error status of 7. I can't get passed the white screen
With the HTC logo.
Any assistance would be so much appreciated.
likingandroid said:
HELP.
I was switching between an HTC Sense Rom and Gingerbread roms by using clockwork
Recovery 3.0.5 and selecting install.zip from SD card. All the roms I try to select gives
Gets to flashing kernel and then produces error status of 7. I can't get passed the white screen
With the HTC logo.
Any assistance would be so much appreciated.
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first off all wrong section, try the search button next time.
for your problem try wiping data/cache, then try and flash a rom, if it docent work, try and re flash your recovery.
I think people need to know what a "Brick" is...
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first off all wrong section, try the search button next time.
for your problem try wiping data/cache, then try and flash a rom, if it docent work, try and re flash your recovery.
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Sorry, Posted from a Blackberry
I tried both. Can you explain how to re-flash the recovery? Perhaps I am not doing this correctly.
its not briked, he can still acces the recovery. if anything its a semi brick
Do more researching my friend
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Do more researching my friend
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Posts like this is what making this site into **** -_-
If you still have access to the recovery then youre not brick.
Why cant you assholes just direct him to this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=842495
IF this was the wrong section, why would there even be a thread about just this in this section?
TrueYears said:
Posts like this is what making this site into **** -_-
If you still have access to the recovery then youre not brick.
Why cant you assholes just direct him to this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=842495
IF this was the wrong section, why would there even be a thread about just this in this section?
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Amen!
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA Premium App
TrueYears said:
Posts like this is what making this site into **** -_-
If you still have access to the recovery then youre not brick.
Why cant you assholes just direct him to this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=842495
IF this was the wrong section, why would there even be a thread about just this in this section?
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well freaking said !
people or dev that just say that ,waste time posting 'wrong section" and should at least provide with a right direction or link instead of being asswholes about it.
being more helpful is part of being in xda or a rom dev, justsaying though.
GunToYoMouth123 said:
well freaking said !
people or dev that just say that ,waste time posting 'wrong section" and should at least provide with a right direction or link instead of being asswholes about it.
being more helpful is part of being in xda or a rom dev, justsaying though.
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Well said is quite the understatement. Has anyone seriously tried doing searches on this site for stuff? Sometimes you do find what you're looking for fairly easily, other times you can't find a damn thing that should be readily available. And if you're in panic mode because you think you just bricked your phone, are you going to search this entire site for an answer that might not show up in your search results? Hell no, you'd probably just create a new thread begging for help.
If you can't contribute and only talk down to people, shut your ass up. No one needs that type of attitude here.
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I have to disagree.
First and foremost, give a man a fish... teach a man to fish...
The post you quote seems entirely accurate. The OP could obviously use more research as the answers are available. A little time with google alone will usually lead me to what I seek right here on xda.
I feel that the majority of xda contributors are more than willing to help if you show some indication that you have exhausted all your resources in finding your own solution. Though I do understand that moments of panic occur when nothing seems to work but it is always best as well as more satisfying to try and work through it yourself.
This forum does have a Q and A section that would be perfectly suited to handle this thread. The development section really isn't the place. You will get more welcome responses over there as that is its purpose.
Finally, as a member of this forum, I appreciate that of all the posts in this thread, yours (and suilmagic) were the only post that really did anything to help the OP.
TrueYears said:
Posts like this is what making this site into **** -_-
If you still have access to the recovery then youre not brick.
Why cant you assholes just direct him to this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=842495
IF this was the wrong section, why would there even be a thread about just this in this section?
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I couldn't agree more! Thanks for saying it.
Sent from my HTC Vision using Tapatalk
Most of them just want their super cool post count up. I'm hopefully going to root my DZ tomorrow. Only got it today.
Is everybody like that in this section? Everybody was awesome in the HD2 section.
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ihateusernames said:
I have to disagree.
First and foremost, give a man a fish... teach a man to fish...
The post you quote seems entirely accurate. The OP could obviously use more research as the answers are available. A little time with google alone will usually lead me to what I seek right here on xda.
I feel that the majority of xda contributors are more than willing to help if you show some indication that you have exhausted all your resources in finding your own solution. Though I do understand that moments of panic occur when nothing seems to work but it is always best as well as more satisfying to try and work through it yourself.
This forum does have a Q and A section that would be perfectly suited to handle this thread. The development section really isn't the place. You will get more welcome responses over there as that is its purpose.
Finally, as a member of this forum, I appreciate that of all the posts in this thread, yours (and suilmagic) were the only post that really did anything to help the OP.
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I understand you point and I agree 100% people need to research their problems on a search engine (including the one we have here built in XDA (very handy)) because the majority of time, it will appear right onthe first page if you type your problem correctly, I agree with you. However, some users rather act in a certain way which would describe them as "assholes" if you cant contribute one way or the other why even post at all? if you dont know then theres no need to post unnecessary things. Just dont post and OP will get the picture and look somewhere else.
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I understand you point and I agree 100% people need to research their problems on a search engine (including the one we have here built in XDA (very handy)) because the majority of time, it will appear right onthe first page if you type your problem correctly, I agree with you. However, some users rather act in a certain way which would describe them as "assholes" if you cant contribute one way or the other why even post at all? if you dont know then theres no need to post unnecessary things. Just dont post and OP will get the picture and look somewhere else.
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I agree with this as well though I hesitate at the name calling as it is also unproductive.
I miss the old days when we were all figuring it out together and questions turned to discussions. With the wealth of knowledge that has been built since then I guess some are not as willing to help others work through the problems. I do believe that if this thread had landed in Q&A it would have, or at least should have, received better response.
Well when I was new to this I thought I broke my brand new first day g2 because I got a boot loop (talk about panic mode xD) well I did my research and got it fixed thanks to me making a back up as soon as I flashed cwm...if anything it inspired me to get back at it...my advice back up your original shipping rom before you think about screwing around with stuff well now my g2 hinge is messed up extreamly loose so I'm returning it to stock :'( and sending it in....did I mention I'm 16? Be smartdont screw up
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ihateusernames said:
I agree with this as well though I hesitate at the name calling as it is also unproductive.
I miss the old days when we were all figuring it out together and questions turned to discussions. With the wealth of knowledge that has been built since then I guess some are not as willing to help others work through the problems. I do believe that if this thread had landed in Q&A it would have, or at least should have, received better response.
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youre right name calling is uncalled for
I apologized if I have offended anyone
Update on HTC G2 Crashed and Bricked
I followed the instructions posted on this site to try and recover my G2 to no avail. After hours with an Android Developer the apparent issue was with the phone's internal memory.
I recieved a replacement and all is good. I've flashed a number of 2.3 roms in addition to roms that have Sense, flashed a kernel or two with no problems.
I hope I don't re create the same condition that started this post. I'm not sure what I did to cause the issue in the fisrt place.
Thanks to all the people out there who tried their best to help.
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I followed the instructions posted on this site to try and recover my G2 to no avail. After hours with an Android Developer the apparent issue was with the phone's internal memory.
I recieved a replacement and all is good. I've flashed a number of 2.3 roms in addition to roms that have Sense, flashed a kernel or two with no problems.
I hope I don't re create the same condition that started this post. I'm not sure what I did to cause the issue in the fisrt place.
Thanks to all the people out there who tried their best to help.
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Glad you got it fixed.
Until this will be moved, read this. I'm sure most of you will find yourself in that article:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...om-developers-i-think-we-need-to-have-a-talk/
Definitely +1 on this one, I'm getting sick of 20 Sense ROMs which have the most confusing names ever.
Hear hear.
I don't see any problem.
Each of the chefs offers features that others don't. Personally I've found a nice home with Alex V's hybrid of Sense 2.1 and 3.0. It's odexed for great speed and has built in rock solid data 2 ext. Works for me.
It's best not to be so bitter Terepin, or of course you could choose a more 'homogenised' OS - which at some point you were considering, I believe. Where are you on that?
Except that Alex IS a developer, not a wannabe dev.
AMEN to that... **** I haven't even tried 75% of the ROMs for the Desire.. I mean thanks a million for spending so much time developing it but...
a lot are based on "OMFGAWESOMESENSEROM1" or "BESTAOSPROMEVER".. and it makes you wonder what the difference between that one is and the ROM it's "based" on other than minor tweaks here and there... Fair enough if you make MASSIVE changes to it, you obviously need to start from somewhere, but taking a ROM giving it a spit shine and slapping on your own branding does not work lol
One ROM has this bug fixed and another present, and another the exact opposite, it'd be nice to see all the devs who are e.g. working on a Sense 3 ROM.. to work together and make one awesome Sense 3 ROM instead of 5.. Of course I'm not saying that doesn't already happen because everyone HELPS each other out.. but imagine what kind of product could be outputted if everyone worked as a team on one large scale project, and take the Cyanogenmod team as their role models.
*gets into bomb shelter*
Alex is a responsive, friendly and kind guy. He's often helped out noobs (with a great investment of time) and I've also seen him give a lot of tips to people who do technically know what they're doing. However, he himself gives thanks to Coolexe and others that have taught him good stuff.
What the AP article seems to be saying is that:
1) the forums might be confusing for a beginner due to the vast number of ROMs and their variety in quality, and
2)new users might not know exactly what they're doing when they flash their first ROM
To which I respond:
1) The chaos breeds gems, some developers start off with ROMs that are bug-plagued nightmares but then either improve or disappear off the list (people power!). If you're going to have the kind of policing of ROMs that AP want, who does it?
2) Everyone's confused when they flash their first ROM, I certainly wasn't sure EXACTLY what was happening to my phone. Being here is a learning experience for users and devs.
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Once you know what the terms in the title mean then it's easy to distinguish. D2EXT, A2SD, Odexed/Deodexed etc... It's not too hard. Jeez, why do people want everything laid out on a plate for them?
To those who find the choice confusing maybe a simpler hobby would be more to your taste. Maybe knitting? Or trainspotting?
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It's best not to be so bitter Terepin, or of course you could choose a more 'homogenised' OS - which at some point you were considering, I believe. Where are you on that?
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The problem is that right now, we have an, at first sight, more "heterogenised" OS than it really, is, because 50% of the ROMs are MOD ROMs.
I think that even I!!! could post a "ROM" and call myself a dev as someones do. In fact, I have a very modified ROM, but it's something that every one without any informatics knowledge can do. I've just read some tutorials to make a ROM, based on CM7, with an alternate kernel, odexed, some apps deleted, some apps added, themed,
And call myself a dev makes me laugh to death. So I think all the "new devs" should be more self-effacing (word taken from google translator, hope it's ok ) and think that ROM development is NOT for everyone. You need to know a lot that is impossible to learn just by reading xda. Every advanced user can MOD a ROM and share it for the more newbies, but always leaving the name of the ROM and all the credits to the real developer.
the Slovak guy spams again, u keep facepalming everytime u see noobs post in dev section , but u're not much different, next time post ur spam in "Desire General"
The only real solution to this problem is to do the same thing as the SGS2 forum moderators did. Split the development forum into Original and Mod sections. Frankly this should happen automatically on every HTC device forum IMHO.
As for the devs, yes most of the big names have moved on to other devices.
If, however you want to see some real development action right now, you should definately check out the IRC ICS dev channel. That's were real development is going on atm.
Totally agree. I make these minor customizations and add my own themes to my device, but I would never consider posting one of these for general use, or claiming for a second I've done anything significant compared to the real devs who make cyanogen or various other great ROMs. Doing some research and slowly self teaching yourself basic development is a great thing to do. But unless you've created an original ROM, ideally as close to from scratch as possible and thoroughly tested it don't post it on these forums.
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the Slovak guy spams again, u keep facepalming everytime u see noobs post in dev section , but u're not much different, next time post ur spam in "Desire General"
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Nice try, dude. Except one small tiny thingy: That this thread is meant for wannabe developers. It isn't question, it isn't need for help, nor it isn't chit-chat about weather. And with my "spam" agrees most of users here, furthermore, I'm not author of that "spam".
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I don't see any problem.
Each of the chefs offers features that others don't. Personally I've found a nice home with Alex V's hybrid of Sense 2.1 and 3.0. It's odexed for great speed and has built in rock solid data 2 ext. Works for me.
It's best not to be so bitter Terepin, or of course you could choose a more 'homogenised' OS - which at some point you were considering, I believe. Where are you on that?
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Except that Alex IS a developer, not a wannabe dev.
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Alex is a responsive, friendly and kind guy. He's often helped out noobs (with a great investment of time) and I've also seen him give a lot of tips to people who do technically know what they're doing. However, he himself gives thanks to Coolexe and others that have taught him good stuff.
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to [email protected] the beginning i also patched other roms to have my personal rom...but i don´t put it online (only cool3d runny...and this was only to give people who want sense 3.5 a feel that odexed is faster )
anyway....i think: for start rom development its a good thing to start with custom roms and change the things for personal use...but dont put it online
if you have the skills (from learning with the custom roms from other devs) then make a own rom...and put it online....
i never learned out...we need people like snq, seo, Neophyte, baadnewz, robocik, snq-, ownhere, coutts, melethron, Leedroid, Sub501, coolexe, sibere, droidzone and all we others...to learn...
a good thing would be if people like seo (ported the sense 3 lockscreen and weather), or ownhere for understand more the sqlite patch and how to find values in hex codes for newer roms....or or... - can make a little how to (so poeple can learn this and make it self)
thats why i answer much questions...so i hope the people understand what they do..
i searched also for a good how to to unserstand making kernels...but not found a really nice one...
with kind regards..Alex
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Nice try, dude. Except one small tiny thingy: That this thread is meant for wannabe developers. It isn't question, it isn't need for help, nor it isn't chit-chat about weather. And with my "spam" agrees most of users here, furthermore, I'm not author of that "spam".
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Put on some glasses, i didn't write "Q&A", i said "Desire General" , and Desire General is meant for this type of crap, so writing it in dev. section is spam , yes.
Crap? This is how truth is calling these days?
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Crap? This is how truth is calling these days?
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i agree with what is said in the article, but that's not the point, this is not the place to post it, rules that u want to be applied on others u should accept to be applied on u too, so next time when u insult "noobs" for openning a thread in the wrong place remember this one too and retell the insults to urself also , coz then it will be fair.
You know that article ain't about Desire, right? It's about ROM developers in general. So, by logic, which section is more suitable?
Mostly agree with the article. I hate when someone posts a kang and calls it a ROM. Nice racket we made with a$$paktyn case as the most recent example hehe
What I don't agree with is that developers should continue development indefinitely for legacy devices. You should follow their upgrade pattern if you were happy with their work, not the other way around.
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The only real solution to this problem is to do the same thing as the SGS2 forum moderators did. Split the development forum into Original and Mod sections.
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This is exactly what drove Neophyte from these forums, whose rom was a customized rom+theme+own kernel. As complete rom as it gets. So I disagree with separation, but insist on repression against kang.
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You know that article ain't about Desire, right? It's about ROM developers in general. So, by logic, which section is more suitable?
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how about here?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=565
Nope, I wanted to address this article directly to our "devs".
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1343114
works on widlfire s apparently.
I sold mine but though you guys might like this
Edit :: apologies GSM users this will not work on your Wildfire S
Feel free to delete this thread
Doesn't work.
Tools
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1343114
works on widlfire s apparently.
I sold mine but though you guys mihgt like this
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I had spied that awhile ago. Finally tested it marvelc side; didn't work except for the desensing/resensing. That works from all indications.
I also found an apk on the market I've mentioned a few times that does root/unroot; It's called un-Rooting [and the subtitles are in a language I can't read; but it works marvelc side][anyone care to test it gsm side?]; busybox [installer] also available on market. I've found market apps to be easy advice.
As for gsm'ers only known tool [still] to work is the xtc clip; which is a small hardware device one can order for around $40; Simonsimon34 has the latest s-off guide for marvelc.
Alquez's cwm works on both cdma & gsm
Thought I'd drop mention of these tools again.
Rob
PS I found a really useful market app that was started here on xda.. ZDbox I got to find the thread and thank the developer, but it has battery percentage/status & power-saver, task killer, app uninstaller/management [inc Apps2sd], and System Cleaner [cache & history]. Can replace 4-5 apps with this one. Good good end-user tool.
Another misleading thread. l00k, please ask a mod to delete this.
It's already proven that it doesn't work on GSM phones.
The Wildfire S is already full of information on how to s-off CDMA phones.
There is no need to confuse more people.
I guess I can speak on behalf of all WFS GSM users. Please delete this. PLEASE!
Who created the Super Tool and who posted a thread about it on XDA should first confirm if the information is correct. It DOESN'T work on Wildfire S except CDMA versions.
In case you still didn't get it, this is NOT directed to you. It's a general complaint:
It's incredible that so many people post things just because somebody says it works.
Wouldn't it be smarter to confirm first and post after? I'm not talking about you, l00k.
I'm really tired of reading the same crap over and over again, including the people that almost want to force us to buy a XTC Clip. Some say it isn't rocket science because we can sell it after using... but maybe some people just don't have the time, patience or money to do that. It's easy to talk about ourselves. I guess some people should learn how to walk in other people's shoes.
A simple "Doesn't work on GSM" would of done the trick.
You don't get S-OFF for being a ****
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l00k said:
A simple "Doesn't work on GSM" would of done the trick.
You don't get S-OFF for being a ****
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Are you happy now that you've insulted someone that didn't disrespect you?
Congratulations for your smart post. Seriously! I love when people are rude and unpolite. It just shows their character.
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Are you happy now that you've insulted someone that didn't disrespect you?
Congratulations for your smart post. Seriously! I love when people are rude and unpolite. It just shows their character.
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*sigh*
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l00k said:
You don't get S-OFF for being a ****
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Seriously dude. Migualca is anything but that.
One of the most supportive and helpful people around here...Behind myself of course. LOL jk
I think an apology would be in order.
Look guys... this dude read something and posted it to try and be helpful. Don't throw stones at him just explain.
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question
Although this thread is a repeat and will get deleted because... well if you read it, its just not what xda is about. Even so, I will ask a gsm'r does this tool seem to perform only zerg-rush, desense and resense like on cdma side? Or does nothing work, differences? It does not work for root cdma side, unroot fails, and the methodology is different so I doubt it would s-off on our side. I will contact the developer to specify partial functionality with WFS but no s-off (upon gsm analysis confirmation). Discuss.
Rob
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Look guys... this dude read something and posted it to try and be helpful. Don't throw stones at him just explain.
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Nobody threw stones at him in the first place.
I explained why this thread should be removed and also took the opportunity to talk about other annoying habits. I think it's pretty clear I wasn't referring to l00k, so I really don't understand why he replied that way.
It seems that he accepted the general criticism as it was directed only to him.
Thanks to d33ps1x for his support. I try my best to help the community and suddendly I get called a ****...
How about an apology instead?
This kind of thread leads to nothing but legacy again...
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Seriously dude. Migualca is anything but that.
One of the most supportive and helpful people around here...Behind myself of course. LOL jk
I think an apology would be in order.
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I apologised in my initial post to GSM users but I wont apologise for my reaction to what was in no way a supportive and useful reply from Migualca. In fact its the most annoying thing anyone has ever said to me since joining these forums backl in 2006. Tact is a wonderful thing (jk)
Anyway this was posted to help and I genuinely do hope you guys get your software S-OFF. I've still got my blacklisted wildfire S and would be willing to rip its guts out testing tools like this to help.
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Seriously dude. Migualca is anything but that.
One of the most supportive and helpful people around here...Behind myself of course. LOL jk
I think an apology would be in order.
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Besides already having clicked "thanks" I felt the need to express my gratitude for your post.
You are also very supportive and helpful, the kind of user XDA needs.
There is one thing on earth that I don't tolerate to ANYBODY: lack of respect/education. That's why my motto is: don't disrespect others if you don't want to be disrespected.
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I apologised in my initial post to GSM users but I wont apologise for my reaction to what was in no way a supportive and useful reply from Migualca. In fact its the most annoying thing anyone has ever said to me since joining these forums backl in 2006. Tact is a wonderful thing (jk)
Anyway this was posted to help and I genuinely do hope you guys get your software S-OFF. I've still got my blacklisted wildfire S and would be willing to rip its guts out testing tools like this to help.
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A smart sentence that you should embrace too.
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Nobody threw stones at him in the first place.
I explained why this thread should be removed and also took the opportunity to talk about other annoying habits. I think it's pretty clear I wasn't referring to l00k, so I really don't understand why he replied that way.
It seems that he accepted the general criticism as it was directed only to him.
Thanks to d33ps1x for his support. I try my best to help the community and suddendly I get called a ****...
How about an apology instead?
This kind of thread leads to nothing but legacy again...
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I only read the first and few last posts. It saves a lot of time. I myself pm'd the mod of this forums asking him to move it back. He did. Look at the wfs to legacy post
Anyway. Sorry if I miss understood the argument. I just saw one man trying to defend himself
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Someone brave enough?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1416015
This may work.
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Besides already having clicked "thanks" I felt the need to express my gratitude for your post.
You are also very supportive and helpful, the kind of user XDA needs.
There is one thing on earth that I don't tolerate to ANYBODY: lack of respect/education. That's why my motto is: don't disrespect others if you don't want to be disrespected.
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A smart sentence that you should embrace too.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony
Guys, sry but pls stop it.
As much as i can see both of you told things that could be spelled another way
Miguelca i know, your pissed (sry for the bad spelling, but i think it hits the point) on, because you thought there finally is a way for gsm users to s-off their device without xtc and you where disappointed once more, but because of this it shouldn't be delteted, it should be marked like others with cdma only. I know it's hard and i also know you done much for the community, but try to be happy for others that they got one more option, i'm sure there will come a way for gsm users finally.
And 100k, sry but your rudness wasn't correct and your really should apology for it, there are other ways to tell such things than such a bad language.
At this point Miguelca is right, you should bring more respect to others, if he tells something that you think it's not true or should be handled another way, express it in a normal way not like you did. It's much more constructive and others can accept it or/and discuss it with you, but like you did they get angry and things get badder not better, so pls be patient next time and tell what you want to tell as smooth as you can.
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Guys, sry but pls stop it.
As much as i can see both of you told things that could be spelled another way
Miguelca i know, your pissed (sry for the bad spelling, but i think it hits the point) on, because you thought there finally is a way for gsm users to s-off their device without xtc and you where disappointed once more, but because of this it shouldn't be delteted, it should be marked like others with cdma only. I know it's hard and i also know you done much for the community, but try to be happy for others that they got one more option, i'm sure there will come a way for gsm users finally.
And 100k, sry but your rudness wasn't correct and your really should apology for it, there are other ways to tell such things than such a bad language.
At this point Miguelca is right, you should bring more respect to others, if he tells something that you thing it's not true or should be handled another way, express it in a normal way not like you did. It's much more constructive and others can accept it or/and discuss it with you, but like you did it they get angry and things get badder not better, so pls be patient next time and tell what you want to tell as smooth as you can.
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Don't worry tectas. This is definitely my last post about this bad soap-opera.
l00k doesn't care to reread my first post and doesn't want to admit that there is a part he must have overlooked or misunderstood. Some people want to be always on top, even when they have no arguments and need to use rude language. Just one simple conclusion: l00k wrote 212 posts since September 2006 and got 9 thanks. I'm here since June 2010, wrote 114 posts (before this one) and got 51 thanks.
I rest my case.
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Guys, sry but pls stop it.
As much as i can see both of you told things that could be spelled another way
Miguelca i know, your pissed (sry for the bad spelling, but i think it hits the point) on, because you thought there finally is a way for gsm users to s-off their device without xtc and you where disappointed once more, but because of this it shouldn't be delteted, it should be marked like others with cdma only. I know it's hard and i also know you done much for the community, but try to be happy for others that they got one more option, i'm sure there will come a way for gsm users finally.
And 100k, sry but your rudness wasn't correct and your really should apology for it, there are other ways to tell such things than such a bad language.
At this point Miguelca is right, you should bring more respect to others, if he tells something that you think it's not true or should be handled another way, express it in a normal way not like you did. It's much more constructive and others can accept it or/and discuss it with you, but like you did they get angry and things get badder not better, so pls be patient next time and tell what you want to tell as smooth as you can.
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I think you are right about not deleting the posts like this and renaming them. If other posts hadn't been deleted (and I did search on the subject before posting) then I would have seen it was cdma only.
Sorry for calling you a **** miguelca it wasn't very nice and I should have elaborated a little more as to why your comment and comments like them annoy me so much. I don't spend much time in the wfs section anymore I saw the article in an rss feed from another android site and thought about you guys. I saw no other posts about the unlock tool so thought i'd share it. Seeing as this site is international and this section is not just about gsm phones it is a valid thread. Try not to jump on people so quickly.
FYI the thanks button hasn't been there since the dawn of time.
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I think you are right about not deleting the posts like this and renaming them. If other posts hadn't been deleted (and I did search on the subject before posting) then I would have seen it was cdma only.
Sorry for calling you a **** miguelca it wasn't very nice and I should have elaborated a little more as to why your comment and comments like them annoy me so much. I don't spend much time in the wfs section anymore I saw the article in an rss feed from another android site and thought about you guys. I saw no other posts about the unlock tool so thought i'd share it. Seeing as this site is international and this section is not just about gsm phones it is a valid thread. Try not to jump on people so quickly.
FYI the thanks button hasn't been there since the dawn of time.
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I already said that I wouldn't post again about this subject but now I have to.
l00k, thanks for publicly admitting that your comment wasn't very nice and for apologising. I appreciate your gesture.
You didn't explain why I annoyed you so much with my words and that's why I didn't understand the reaction from your side.
Thanks for your intention to help this community and sorry for jumping so quickly on you with a "hard" comment.
As you know a big part of my post wasn't directed to you, but I get the idea...
In the future I will try not to "jump on people" so quickly.
Oh and BTW I know the thanks button isn't available since the beginning.
This was just a way to show you that in general my comments are well accepted and also thanked for. No regrets. Peace.
Hi, i just bought an emergency fone, htc one m8 - well anyway i hate the stock of it, just duznt seem normal aye - as the title implies i wanna know what roms are so stable that everything actually works without having to read through thousands of pages of bull**** just ta find an answer, and dont say to me that this questions been asked before, just answer the question aye - any recommends? i just want simple ****
M4elstr0m said:
Hi, i just bought an emergency fone, htc one m8 - well anyway i hate the stock of it, just duznt seem normal aye - as the title implies i wanna know what roms are so stable that everything actually works without having to read through thousands of pages of bull**** just ta find an answer, and dont say to me that this questions been asked before, just answer the question aye - any recommends? i just want simple ****
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If this is an emergency phone, and if everything works (no bugs), I highly recommend you don't mess with it. Keep it stock.
Keeping it stock is the best way to ensure that it will work appropriately in an emergency, which is the reason you purchased it.
You haven't been specific to what "everything works" means. Everything works just fine on the stock ROM. If you are having specific issues, name them, and maybe someone can advise you more properly.
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i wanna know what roms are so stable that everything actually works without having to read through thousands of pages of bull**** just ta find an answer,
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So what exactly constitutes "bullsh_t"??? I would suggest you tread carefully before coming onto a forum and flinging around borderline insults to all the valuable information contained here. XDA us a wealth of information, for those patient enough to read and learn. Your comment makes you sound entitled, and too lazy to do that. In the end, this is just another n00b thread asking the cringe-worthy question "What is the best ROM?" Completely contrary to the whole point of XDA.
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If this is an emergency phone, and if everything works (no bugs), I highly recommend you don't mess with it. Keep it stock.
Keeping it stock is the best way to ensure that it will work appropriately in an emergency, which is the reason you purchased it.
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thats not quite the reason i bought the fone - i dropped my old fone and its straight broke! so emergency meaning i needed a fone quick! but yep, i get what you mean, cheers and thanks
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You haven't been specific to what "everything works" means. Everything works just fine on the stock ROM. If you are having specific issues, name them, and maybe someone can advise you more properly..
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let me reiterate ... i hate the stock of it, so many things i just dont use and probably would never use either are loaded in the background - sense, car, dot thing ... yep ... nup!
i bought a case for it and wondered why it would keep blacking out the screen when id set it sideways watching a vid - background things that id never use - the dot thing!
rooting the device ... 165 apps being optimized? thats a lot of apps for stock! and people wonder why ther battery dont last but then a noob would never know
now what i mean by everything is - digging through thread after thread i read about sim card not being detected, camera not working, imei's going missing, and then theres this thing called s-on and it seems that i cant change that now without paying for it...
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So what exactly constitutes "bullsh_t"??? I would suggest you tread carefully before coming onto a forum and flinging around borderline insults to all the valuable information contained here. XDA us a wealth of information, for those patient enough to read and learn. Your comment makes you sound entitled, and too lazy to do that.
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hey dont get me wrong, i love xda and for sure there's great information here - what bothered me and prompted me to write this on such manner was i saw a guy ask along the lines of the best rom and then sum prick comes and tells him this questions been asked before and then pretty much proceeds ta tell him ta **** off, no suggestions, no help, just get the **** on ...
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In the end, this is just another n00b thread asking the cringe-worthy question "What is the best ROM?" Completely contrary to the whole point of XDA
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maybe cringey to you but i am a noob and i'd like ta know and if its contrary to xda to answer this question then how helpful is it?
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hey dont get me wrong, i love xda and for sure there's great information here - what bothered me and prompted me to write this on such manner was i saw a guy ask along the lines of the best rom and then sum prick comes and tells him this questions been asked before and then pretty much proceeds ta tell him ta **** off, no suggestions, no help, just get the **** on ...
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I don't think I like your attitude. Information that you don't want to read is "bullsh_t". And someone show tells the facts is "sum prick". You going to start calling me names too, if I tell you something you don't want to hear?
"Best ROM" is not a question that can be answered. You've already proven that point. Previous response suggested stock ROM. It's "best" for a lot of people. But it's not "best" for you. The "best" ROM is completely subjective. It is dependent on personal usage patters, preferences, etc. If you want a suggestion on a ROM, there are plenty of threads already discussing that.
XDA used to ban "best ROM" threads for the reason mentioned above. They now allow such threads. For no good reason, except pandering to lazy n00bs, and XDA jumped the shark on that note.