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Honeycomb or Ice Cream Sandwich on Kindle?

Any chance that HC or ICS will be able to be ported to the Kindle Fire? It seems rather capable and rather nice outfit.

There is a chance that ICS will be ported. HC is no longer relevant at this point.

I can wait for ICS to become available in lou of having a quick HC rom.

Funny, HC was released (finally) in late October 2011 for my other device; I have it on my Google TV.
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i hope someone will make an ICS rom for it, basically for the GPU accelerated menu's

I think amazon will upgrade it to icecream anyway with a future software update.

Why should Amazon update to ICS? Won't make sense with their customisation. Now you can't even see something from Gingerbread?

Atomicman said:
Why should Amazon update to ICS? Won't make sense with their customisation. Now you can't even see something from Gingerbread?
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Do you mean besides being able to hardware accelerate the 2-d graphics rendering thus eliminating stutter? How about being up to date with the current API level?
There's plenty of reason for Amazon to update to ICS now that it's open-sourced - and they will.

What about RAM? Is 512 enough? The only reason letting me think of nook tablet.
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jm9843 said:
Do you mean besides being able to hardware accelerate the 2-d graphics rendering thus eliminating stutter? How about being up to date with the current API level?
There's plenty of reason for Amazon to update to ICS now that it's open-sourced - and they will.
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With all due respect I kind of doubt they will. Think about it. What benefit would Amazon derive from it? Would it sell more books? Otherwise move more revenue generating content? Most of the people who bought the AF (XDA people excluded mind you) have little or no interest in ICS, HC, or what have you. They just want it to work. And it will. As good as it could? Perhaps, perhaps not. I suspect the only users jonesing for HC or ICS will be power users and really, I suspect that's a very very small portion of the AF user base. Devs are the best (if not only) hope for a port in my opinion. And that presumes enough Devs find the AF worthy of their time. There are a heckuva lot of devices out there to choose from!
Just random thoughts....

I'm holding out on this tablet till all the amazon crap os stuff is removed
miui please

LOL, Miui really? That would defeat the whole purpose for me. Miui is a great phone ROM but for tablets, its completely trash. ICS should be awesome. Not to bash u, im just sayin.

Any idea if, or which, devs are starting to look at doing ICS? We've got everything needed, right? Kindle source, ICS source, fires in our hands....I think this could take off because it's at such a sweet price point, and, I know this is vain, but I hate that little loop at the bottom left of the nook color...this feels like a real tablet..solid, sleek, minimalistic...the amazon launcher sucks, but I can see this being a dream on ICS.

Chances are we are gonna wait till a Clockwork mod recovery to surface or some kind of rom loader. So we can backup our .img for safe keeping and then flash the roms!
I'm really thinking about returning my Kindle Fire and picking up HTC Flyer for $100 more

Idk I think im gonna stick with the Fire. I bet devs end up piling on this thing. The nexus s only has 512mb of Ram and a single core and it runs ICS fine doesn't it?

FinalJenemba said:
Idk I think im gonna stick with the Fire. I bet devs end up piling on this thing. The nexus s only has 512mb of Ram and a single core and it runs ICS fine doesn't it?
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At a lower resolution, the NS4G ICS SDK port tends to hang a bit because of the lower RAM. My expectations of a tablet is being able to have a ton of tabs and apps open without having to relaunch/reload things. The Fire is damn fine tablet at $200 but the 512 MB is a huge deal breaker when all of my recent smartphones have had that much or more. Current GPU's just practically eat half of the RAM by itself too.

You can run the ICS Launcher by the ACS Syndicate team here:
http://syndicateapps.com/main/ICS_Releases.html
Works fine on the kindle fire.. but the amazon bar still shows on the bottom.

[Q] Do you think GNex will be able to run 4.2 smoothly?

So, with the lastest specs of the posible "LG Nexus 4" we could see a 4 core smartphone with 2GB of RAM. This hardware it's amazingly fast! Do you think GNex with his hardware will be able to run smoothly 4.2 (With a "only" 2 cores and 1GB RAM)?
BTW, a smartphone with that specs that are able to move a Windows 8 RT (in my opinion), Do you think that it's coming something like Ubuntu for Android?
I only want to know your opinion, I have just bought a Galaxy Nexus because my Nexus S broke down and I don't want to regret have bought it.
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Urko

urko95 said:
So, with the lastest specs of the posible "LG Nexus 4" we could see a 4 core smartphone with 2GB of RAM. This hardware it's amazingly fast! Do you think GNex with his hardware will be able to run smoothly 4.2 (With a "only" 2 cores and 1GB RAM)?
BTW, a smartphone with that specs that are able to move a Windows 8 RT (in my opinion), Do you think that it's coming something like Ubuntu for Android?
I only want to know your opinion, I have just bought a Galaxy Nexus because my Nexus S broke down and I don't want to regret have bought it.
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Urko
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Well , eg. Galaxy s3, 4 core and 2G , which runs 4.0 or 4.1 smoothly and GN runs 4.0 and 4.1 smoothly as well , so I guess GN can handle 4.2 smoothly as well.
Version update doesn't necessarily means more resources consumption, it could also mean system optimization in order to consume less resources and be smoother
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I think it'll make it far past that.

I don't see why not.

GN is a strong phone. its only one years old. my old SGS1 ran 4.0.4 perfectly, my friends SGS1 is running JB pretty good. dont see any reason our GN wont run 4.2.

un.droid said:
GN is a strong phone. its only one years old. my old SGS1 ran 4.0.4 perfectly, my friends SGS1 is running JB pretty good. dont see any reason our GN wont run 4.2.
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Totally agree with you. The Nexus S might have some troubles to run 4.2 correctly if the changes are important (like between Gingerbread and ICS), but definitely not the GN

Yes it will.

Of course it will. After all, every new Android is going for making performance better, not worse. I was surprised that my friends Samsung Galaxy Ace was actually very smooth with JB.

Of course, it will run 4.2, 4.3 and even 5 smoothly. As I see, its one of the fastest phones on jellybean and runs it very smoothly. Unless Samsung decides not to throw the 4.2 update due to business reasons

Mike556 said:
Of course, it will run 4.2, 4.3 and even 5 smoothly. As I see, its one of the fastest phones on jellybean and runs it very smoothly. Unless Samsung decides not to throw the 4.2 update due to business reasons
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Samsung has nothing to do with the device in terms of keeping it updating. It's all Google.

Thank you all for your help! Now I'm very happy with my new GNex!
BTW, Do you think 4.2 will have something like Ubuntu for Android? I think so because a phone with 2GB of RAM it's !
Regards,
Urko

zephiK said:
Samsung has nothing to do with the device in terms of keeping it updating. It's all Google.
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the only reason i chose gnex over s2

Yes, I would agree that it should run 4.2 and beyond without much of an issue. I don't notice any type of stutter, lag, etc. running stock JB on mine.

Since the GNex's hardware exceeds the HW requirements for WindowsVista, I seriously doubt it couldn't run a smartphone OS. If the next version of Android is that resource hungry Google needs to fire the Android dev team.

063_XOBX said:
Since the GNex's hardware exceeds the HW requirements for WindowsVista, I seriously doubt it couldn't run a smartphone OS. If the next version of Android is that resource hungry Google needs to fire the Android dev team.
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A dual-core mobile processor has almost as much in common with a desktop processor as I have with Michael Jordan. It wouldn't run Vista well if at all.
But as for the thread, yeah I'm betting we'll see 5.0+ even if not officially.

063_XOBX said:
Since the GNex's hardware exceeds the HW requirements for WindowsVista, I seriously doubt it couldn't run a smartphone OS. If the next version of Android is that resource hungry Google needs to fire the Android dev team.
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I wasn't aware Windows Vista ran on ARM processors...

Why do you think ARM A9 1.2GHz will not run next version of Android well? My ancient Nexus S runs Jelly bean like a baws

Xperia S Jelly Bean announcement expected this month!

Is it ???
http://www.androidcentral.com/xperia-s-jelly-bean-announcement-expected-month

But today it seems an announcement may be near
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So, this is no new news, the article is just saying an announcement from Sony for the Xperia S 4.1 is near.
Don't read Android Central articles, just follow the Xperia Twitter and Xperia Blog posts directly.

They're supposed to announce the timeline for the 2012 devices in mid-December but JB is not coming until February at least from what I've read.
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Thanks for advise guys !!!

So when they say S, do they mean the S as well as the SL? I'd assume so since they are essentially the same thing with a different processor.

skylinrcr01 said:
So when they say S, do they mean the S as well as the SL? I'd assume so since they are essentially the same thing with a different processor.
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It's not even a different processor

MrBelter said:
It's not even a different processor
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The same processor, but overclocked!

BR4DOKYBrazil said:
The same processor, but overclocked!
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Oh cool. The more you know :good:

so this is an announcement that they will have an announcement?

Inception badadum tssss

Calm down, boys, we all very well know that official Jellybean won't be on our phones that fast. It's Sony, so we have to wait(thanks to CM, no more. After CM I see little reason to use stock). We saw news about early november/late october, now it's december, after december it will be january, and some site will yell OMG EXPARIA S IZ OPTODET TO JILLYBEAM!!!!111111
No, it won't happen before the time Sony decided. They won't just say "Hey guys, let's make a surprise" and release JB.

Hi, I'm currently still using stock rom on my xperia s. Is CM really such a huge difference? And which CM should I take? (CM 9 or 10) Thanks!

kr1st0f1 said:
Hi, I'm currently still using stock rom on my xperia s. Is CM really such a huge difference? And which CM should I take? (CM 9 or 10) Thanks!
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If you don't care about FM radio and 1080p video recording,you can choose CM10.

among regagae
mid q1, too long will have CM 10.1 by then.

They'll announce they had to cancel the update since due to internal testing, they found the hardware not sufficient to support JB
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quiwoon said:
mid q1, too long will have CM 10.1 by then.
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So like middle of February, about two months away. Not too long of a wait at all.

donjamal said:
They'll announce they had to cancel the update since due to internal testing, they found the hardware not sufficient to support JB
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Which is amazing, and considering xperia e has jelly bean out of the box
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sinple said:
Which is amazing, and considering xperia e has jelly bean out of the box
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Yeah, that made me mad a bit... I mean I love the camera and the screen of the XS but since ICS it's a piece of garbage... Losing focus, music stutters, no quick launch for cam, network drop out, random slowdowns, home screen redraw, etc... Last sony for sure... I'll try to enjoy it until it dies and then either a Nexus or WP. Enough of Android's fragmentation, late updates (if any), childish UI on other manufacturers roms, etc. I'm looking forward to see if JB improves anything but so far from what I saw on other devices (mainla cooked rom's however, it won't). We'll see (or not)
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donjamal said:
Yeah, that made me mad a bit... I mean I love the camera and the screen of the XS but since ICS it's a piece of garbage... Losing focus, music stutters, no quick launch for cam, network drop out, random slowdowns, home screen redraw, etc... Last sony for sure... I'll try to enjoy it until it dies and then either a Nexus or WP. Enough of Android's fragmentation, late updates (if any), childish UI on other manufacturers roms, etc. I'm looking forward to see if JB improves anything but so far from what I saw on other devices (mainla cooked rom's however, it won't). We'll see (or not)
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Get a Nexus.. I too am sick of Sony and their lack of updates. I had an Arc S, and it was OK, I have an Xperia S and it's terrible, FAR too many software faults, most of which you mention.
I won't make the mistake of buying Xperia again.

Im just waiting for an Sony Nexus. I dont know if it will come out one day.. If not..
Another Sony :cyclops:

[Q] Android 4.4 KitKat

Hello everyone,
We all know Android 4.4 KitKat was released today(1/11/2013). Since the source will be availible, is it possible to port it to the kindle fire(1st gen)? If yes, please make a stable rom.
Thank you and have a nice day
(Wanna get rid of CM 10.1)

It will take at least a week I am guessing, because the update "will be rolling out over the following weeks" as Google said, and then people will have to port it, so just have a little bit of patience. Also, why don't you switch to CM10.2 if you don't like what your on, or AOSP for that matter, as that runs better I personally think.
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Not very likely since TI (the chip maker for the KF) won't be supporting android any more... or that's at least what I read. I'm hoping that I'm wrong though.

swaarley said:
Not very likely since TI (the chip maker for the KF) won't be supporting android any more... or that's at least what I read. I'm hoping that I'm wrong though.
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Google said it can run on low end devices, and we do have Hashcode's 3.4 Kernel

jma9454 said:
It will take at least a week I am guessing, because the update "will be rolling out over the following weeks" as Google said, and then people will have to port it, so just have a little bit of patience. Also, why don't you switch to CM10.2 if you don't like what your on, or AOSP for that matter, as that runs better I personally think.
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I cannot change too quickly. Mom allowed me only for CM 10.1, and now for CM 11(It will come, right?). Cannot do CM 10.2.

That kernel is not ready for primetime, also there is code that the chip maker will have to release code for it. See hash and others posting about it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1591850&page=276

Google says that kitkat can run on devices that have as low as 512mb RAM. We can sure overclock our processor to 1.2 GHz
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swaarley said:
That kernel is not ready for primetime, also there is code that the chip maker will have to release code for it. See hash and others posting about it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1591850&page=276
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You know, hash doesn't say anything about not getting it to work. In my opinion he clearly stated that he is really trying to get 4.4 to work. It was others that were being sceptical.
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True, the first ROM for any android version for our device is done by hash. Same case for 4.1,4.2,4.3,4.3.1
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As was previously stated, Texas Instruments is out of the microprocessor chip game and they have stopped supporting the binaries for newer versions of Android. It wasn't directly stated by Google but it's very likely that it was for that reason that they chose not to support the Galaxy Nexus in the newest iteration of Android, as it also uses a TI chip. I'd like to think that it would be possible to run Android 4.4 on the old Kindle Fire, especially since it lags pretty badly on stock, but I am afraid that the likelihood is fairly low.

True that it also what is written on hash's thread for the new kernel. He sure I trying hard and so my hopes are pretty much alive
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sparkplugDev said:
As was previously stated, Texas Instruments is out of the microprocessor chip game and they have stopped supporting the binaries for newer versions of Android. It wasn't directly stated by Google but it's very likely that it was for that reason that they chose not to support the Galaxy Nexus in the newest iteration of Android, as it also uses a TI chip. I'd like to think that it would be possible to run Android 4.4 on the old Kindle Fire, especially since it lags pretty badly on stock, but I am afraid that the likelihood is fairly low.
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They already have 4.4 Roms for the Verizon galaxy nexus...it won't get official Google support but they have gotten Roms for it:
Example:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2508073
So,is it possible? Yes. Will it take a while? Probably....don't expect it soon but as others have said hashcode is working on
It...keep your fingers crossed

Jacobloveskindles said:
They already have 4.4 Roms for the Verizon galaxy nexus...it won't get official Google support but they have gotten Roms for it:
Example:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2508073
So,is it possible? Yes. Will it take a while? Probably....don't expect it soon but as others have said hashcode is working on
It...keep your fingers crossed
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4.3 binaries can be hacked for 4.4.
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Hey guys! The wait is almost over.
There is already a build, no WiFi
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Stable build of cm 11 released, I think we can close this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47706499#post47706499
Moral: Lets always be optimistic (At least when its sensible)!
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Galaxy Nexus Gets Updated GPU Binaries, To Breath Life into the Two-Year Old Phone

As always, XDA is up to some good stuff with a new release of Android now available. Some developers are finding what appears to be updated binaries for the GPU that’s inside the Galaxy Nexus. KitKat was announced last week, and surprisingly, Google decided to drop support for the Galaxy Nexus. It’s surprising because KitKat can run on devices with 256MB of RAM, which the Galaxy Nexus has a full gigabyte of RAM available. We’ve already seen numerous custom ROMs flowing out for KitKat on the Galaxy Nexus. And it’s not just for the GSM Galaxy Nexus, but also the Verizon (Toro) and Sprint (Toroplus) versions.
It appears that Texas Instruments have updated the GPU binaries for the Galaxy Nexus. Now, Google may not have known that TI was going to update it or Google may not have told TI that they had given up on the two-year old device. But either way, developers are hard at work building an updated kernel that might help solve some of the graphical issues with KitKat on the Galaxy Nexus.
If you’re one of those many people out there still rocking the Galaxy Nexus, and not wanting to give it up just yet. It looks like you might get Christmas a bit early. As the new GPU binaries should definitely help out the Galaxy Nexus. Although, if you’ve held onto it this long, you’re probably due for an upgrade, since the device was released in November 2011. Hopefully this will help people get a long a bit more until the device finally chokes.
This is another reason why we love the developer community around Android. You won’t find a developer community like this behind the iPhone or anything iOS related. Back before I started here at AH, I had a couple of devices in which the manufacturer had given up on the device, but developers had continued to support it for years. Which was quite nice.

Is it real? It would be a big deal !
Do any ROM developers confirm it yet?

arshum said:
Is it real?
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I sure hope its real!

Haven't heard much lately on this just what hashcode said and he didn't sound too promising. One ROM developer I seen tried it but was beyond his skills
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Nothing is impossible ...
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I'm still very much active on this , its true its beyond my skill but that's how I learn . I'm hands on all the way , my nexus stays with the battery cover off 50% of the time lol , so don't fret , there might be hope yet .......
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Will they solve glitches totaly?

krialix said:
Will they solve glitches totaly?
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No one knows that

I would like to thank everyone that is working to make this happen!

this is outdated news
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...possibly-aid-galaxy-nexus-kitkat-development/
please read the hashcode's reply
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47160722&postcount=309
new drivers are for Jellybean and not for KitKat

Well, even if it's only for Jelly Bean, i would want that. An Update is better than no-update

Spoderman said:
Well, even if it's only for Jelly Bean, i would want that. An Update is better than no-update
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I would prefer updated Jellybean with updated drivers and with no WiFi/GPS/connectivity issues... hope Google will release a more stable Jellybean

Spoderman said:
Well, even if it's only for Jelly Bean, i would want that. An Update is better than no-update
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I was thinking same thing.
Even of they ARE only good for4.2/4.3 improvements, I'd love to see them incorporated