1. Any overclockable kernels for this OS?
2. Which is better, Nova Launcher Prime or Apex Launcher Pro?
3. Are the 3rd party launchers going to give the same "100% no lag" experience as the stock launcher?
4. What resolution will I effectively be in if I set my dpi to 240 and I get rid of the nav bar?
Reason I am asking is because I don't want to drop money onto an app if I don't know exactly what I will be getting.
1. Any overclockable kernels for this OS?
Not sure off hand
2. Which is better, Nova Launcher Prime or Apex Launcher Pro?
Many people say that apex force closes a lot with jb, Nova runs smooth
3. Are the 3rd party launchers going to give the same "100% no lag" experience as the stock launcher?
I have not noticed any difference using different launchers so I don't think it's the launcher they sped up, its more of a system overhaul.
Reason I am asking is because I don't want to drop money onto an app if I don't know exactly what I will be getting.
and by all means try the free versions first, the prime and pro are not any "faster", they just have more features
convolution said:
1. Any overclockable kernels for this OS?
2. Which is better, Nova Launcher Prime or Apex Launcher Pro?
3. Are the 3rd party launchers going to give the same "100% no lag" experience as the stock launcher?
Reason I am asking is because I don't want to drop money onto an app if I don't know exactly what I will be getting.
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1. Franco, that I know of
2. Last I heard, Apex doesn't even work on JB yet, while Nova, which already worked with JB, had an additional preliminary JB update within 24 hours.
3. I have a little bit of lag on Nova(about 10% of what I had on ICS), but 4.1 has only been out for a day. They'll patch it up soon.
franco doesn't work. It freezes at the Google logo before the boot animation.
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franco doesn't work. It freezes at the Google logo before the boot animation.
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You are 100% incorrect. There is an abundance of people reporting use of Franco on JB all over the forums, complete with screenshots.
"207 is awesome! Glad I made the switch! I added the values posted above before anything. Once rascream JB comes out this phone will untouchable. Nexus phones for life!"
"it works perfectly for me...its like a whole new phone with how smooth and fast it is"
If you don't know something for sure, don't act like you do. Why even bother posting if you're just making things up?
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franco doesn't work. It freezes at the Google logo before the boot animation.
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I can also say i am on Team Liquid vicious v2 with franco kernel 200. This thing is buttery smooth and jelly bean is amazing. I see franco has kernel 201 out and i havent heard if it is any better. Battery life seems good, not fully tested yet.
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Hey!
I have been rooted my Defy and overclockrd it to 1Ghz. And it feels good now
But the question is, is there still something that I could do to get even more better performance out of Defy?
And yes, I know that flashing CM7 makes it faster, but Im not gonna flash anything yet coz' I have no experience about flashing. And Im bit careful with my defy.
I really want to know how to get whole performance out of this awesome device
And gaming. I've heard about "chainfire3D", will it make 3D and HD games more smoothly and better gaming experience?
Thanks in advace!
install an Applauncher like ADW Launcher to optimize the Appdrawer.
Julian
As far as I know chainfire3D improves performance only in games which are designed for Tegra GPU. Don't worry about Flashing CM7, you can always downgrade to Froyo (Btw, if you have 2.1 to improve performance you can flash 2.2 in official way using Motorola Software Update). Defy is almost unbrickable so you cannot do anything wrong.
juli9797 said:
install an Applauncher like ADW Launcher to optimize the Appdrawer.
Julian
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Which is better ADW or GO luncher?
Send from my MB525 motodefy.
IMO, Go Launcher Ex is better. It is smoother and does not lag at all! Furthermore, the App Drawer is really nice , you can make it look like iOS - you'll have these tiny x's above the apps if you drag and hold your finger on them if you want to delete them or move.
ADW launcher is good, its still smooth, but go launcher is faster.
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IMO, Go Launcher Ex is better. It is smoother and does not lag at all! Furthermore, the App Drawer is really nice , you can make it look like iOS - you'll have these tiny x's above the apps if you drag and hold your finger on them if you want to delete them or move.
ADW launcher is good, its still smooth, but go launcher is faster.
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I second that.
My first launcher was ADW. It's really nice launcher but sometimes it's laggy and consumes much more CPU. GO Launcher runs smooth with any transation/effect i choose and has some nice tools like recent and running app in app drawer.
I think if you don't feel comfortable using CM7, Chainfire 3D is a no go either, it's safer but still can screw your system
You can also use Titanium Backup to "freeze" some apps you don't frequently use that still consume resources
the best launcher is launcherpro imo. it uses 3g acceleration for the animations, so it runs way smoother than other launchers, and its incredibly fast! and in launcherpro, you have the opportunity to hide apps in the app drawer. but the first step in increasing performance would definitely be to update to a 2.2 kernel than flashing cm7 (i recommend the 110909 nightly)!
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the best launcher is launcherpro imo. it uses 3g acceleration for the animations, so it runs way smoother than other launchers, and its incredibly fast! and in launcherpro, you have the opportunity to hide apps in the app drawer. but the first step in increasing performance would definitely be to update to a 2.2 kernel than flashing cm7 (i recommend the 110909 nightly)!
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I will go for Launcher Pro Plus too ...
Hmmm.. Somehow I can't get that orginal homescreen back?
In my opinion ADW launcher is better than GoLauncher Ex.
But that is my opinion!
Julian
Motodefyuser said:
Hmmm.. Somehow I can't get that orginal homescreen back?
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The Blur Launcher runs in background and i can't be killed (in stock roms).
You can use apps like Home Manager or Home Switcher to switch between launchers
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Hey!
And yes, I know that flashing CM7 makes it faster, but Im not gonna flash anything yet coz' I have no experience about flashing. And Im bit careful with my defy.
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I would guess you already have 2.2 stock. If not, you're missing an easy improvement.
I also thought I needed to learn more before trying CM7 so it took me quite a while to flash it. The only thing I can say now is that it makes me appreciate even more how much faster CM7 is than stock 2.2. I wish I had tried it before.
I'm still having some problems with wifi, but I just can't go back anymore, stock is just too slow.
As for a launcher, try Zeam Launcher, pretty quick.
+1 for the Zeam Launcher. App launchers are just that. They should consume a minimal amount of resource so that the applications that really matter have more room to play with.
If you have a stock rom, it is really quite possible to take out moto's home app. You need to be rooted (and of course, you need to be careful)
Regarding the question about not seeing the original home launcher, i think the easiest thing to do is to uninstall the 3rd party app launcher. If the original home app is still installed, you *should then be able to see it again on the foreground.
For original home launcher fix go to market and search for "moto home fix". Read it and install.
And when you want to go back on original launcher, go to settings-applications-manage applications and select your current launcher.
Then click "clear defaults" and press home button.
Menu for choosing launcher will promp.
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Zeam launcher has the best performance, but lacks some features. Best Alternative is LauncherPro, in my opinion.
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I would guess you already have 2.2 stock. If not, you're missing an easy improvement.
I also thought I needed to learn more before trying CM7 so it took me quite a while to flash it. The only thing I can say now is that it makes me appreciate even more how much faster CM7 is than stock 2.2. I wish I had tried it before.
I'm still having some problems with wifi, but I just can't go back anymore, stock is just too slow.
As for a launcher, try Zeam Launcher, pretty quick.
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Yes, I have 2.2.2
Send from my MB525 motodefy.
Have a rooted galaxy nexus running nova launcher.
I think its time for me to pick a ROM. Which ROM delivers the closest stock experience but still being highly customizable?
By closest stock experience I mean smooth UI and stable OS. I read aokp is good but are there different versions, where do I find them etc etc.
I've tried to do as much reading as possible but when I go into the development section of the forum I just see a bunch of numbers and words that don't make sense to me lol
Which rom is the best in terms of what I want?
I use Codename Android, but that's just my preference. I'm using Franco's kernel. I'm also just waiting for milestone four of aokp.
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You probably want to go with the normal AOKP (I find the difference to the other ROMs to be minimal, matter of taste I suppose. I stick with AOKP since it's the first one I used, runs great and gets a lof of support), the differnece to the other AOKPs is minimal, mostly optics.
As for which build, if you want to be 100 certain that it's run smooth and without any problems, go Milestone 3.
I would go Build 24 though since it is stable and offers more functions. There is a chance you migth run into a problem or two but nothing big (I'm on 24 as well)
You can get it here:
Go figure I am too new to this forum to post urls...
rootzwiki dot com/topic/ 11455-android-open-kang-project-maguro-build-24/
AOKP is by far my favorite. http://forum.aokp.co/page/releases
AOKP is the way to go. I'm using an amazing blacked out version found here:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/18050-black-ice-enjoy-the-darknesskangorade-2323updated-2-18/
I reccomend the Codename Android
BlackMamba08 said:
Have a rooted galaxy nexus running nova launcher.
I think its time for me to pick a ROM. Which ROM delivers the closest stock experience but still being highly customizable?
By closest stock experience I mean smooth UI and stable OS. I read aokp is good but are there different versions, where do I find them etc etc.
I've tried to do as much reading as possible but when I go into the development section of the forum I just see a bunch of numbers and words that don't make sense to me lol
Which rom is the best in terms of what I want?
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If you want as close to stock as possible then give this a shot. It's the v4.0.4 that leaked a few weeks ago. Both the wife and I have been using it since then. It's stable, battery life is decent and it's not cluttered with crap.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1481613
Wow guys, thanks so much for the help.
I decided to go with aokp b24. I have a few questions.
-I am using aokp b24 with nova launcher. I know b25 is coming out soon, and I also like the black exodus theme by nitro as well. I've done HEAVY customization with nova launcher and my widgets such as simple text and minimalistic text that I don't think I;d have the patience through sitting again. So my question is do I have to do a full wipe/factory reset if I upgrade roms?
-I've seen peoples lock screens that have quick apps instead of the stock unlock an camera, they have phone + sms etc etc. With this rom I can select 2 apps, I set them as sms and phone but only the sms one shows up. Any idea?
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Wow guys, thanks so much for the help.
I decided to go with aokp b24. I have a few questions.
-I am using aokp b24 with nova launcher. I know b25 is coming out soon, and I also like the black exodus theme by nitro as well. I've done HEAVY customization with nova launcher and my widgets such as simple text and minimalistic text that I don't think I;d have the patience through sitting again. So my question is do I have to do a full wipe/factory reset if I upgrade roms?
-I've seen peoples lock screens that have quick apps instead of the stock unlock an camera, they have phone + sms etc etc. With this rom I can select 2 apps, I set them as sms and phone but only the sms one shows up. Any idea?
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1.) Apparently roman said you don't need to do a wipe going from 24 to 25, but there is a chance of bugs/things not working properly if you don't wipe. You can save your preferences under Nova Settings --> Backup. And then you can restore once you redownload Nova. Also, you can save your minimalistic text settings under "Backup" as well. That way you can just restore your settings with a simple click. (The restore files will be saved to your SD card, which don't get wiped if you erase data).
2.) Are you sure you selected the "quad" lock screen setting under "Lock screen style"? If so, try to mess around with the "octo" setting and the custom app locations (i.e. 1, 2, etc.).
Also, this thread should be under Q&A. =]
Thanks so much for your reply. A mod can move this thread if it is in the wrong spot, sorry didn't know better.
I just installed aokp b25 and loving it.
Does anybody know any way to make your notification/status bar transparent?
I am asking if a member of the forum is able to release an update/mod for TW that will make the animation for opening folders smoother, i currently have the JB animations flashed and so would prefer to keep them and only modify the folder opening animation.
Regards
JSale
P.s i have tried all manner of options in development settings to do with animation scaling but it still seems very "jagged"
JSale said:
I am asking if a member of the forum is able to release an update/mod for TW that will make the animation for opening folders smoother, i currently have the JB animations flashed and so would prefer to keep them and only modify the folder opening animation.
Regards
JSale
P.s i have tried all manner of options in development settings to do with animation scaling but it still seems very "jagged"
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marulik said:
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2nd person so far
Back on topic
Bump please
Well at least could somebody give some advice as to how i go about the modifications, maybe some themers out there know ?
Ever hopeful
Jack
lol^
What phone are you using info like ram/ rom? Etc
DROID Bionic *1337_3.0*™
Samsung Galaxy SIII
Rom: WanamLite 1.8RC1
Kernel: Siyah 1.3.8
RAM:1GB
wanamlite-ics-xxblg1-v1-7-android-4-0-4-smooth-rock-stable/ this is the latest Im seeing when did you last update the rom? As with roms things tend to run slow including thumbnail loading until later stages and work on the rom has been done. Unless you're familiar with coding or changing actual device attributes I would say you may have to wait until the rom improves. As for your phone its a solid piece of hardware and should have no problem handling it. Hope this helps if I can find out anything I will let you know.
DROID Bionic *1337_3.0*™
I just updated tonight to "[ROM][XXBLG1][15Jul][V1.7][V1.8RC1] WanamLite Smooth,Stable & Battery Friendly", but the animations have not improved at all, previously i was on WanamLite 1.6.
As for familiarity with coding, i do a little bit of java programming and am currently working on a TicTacToe apk, unfortunately i have no experience with roms or theming
Finally i was under the impression that custom roms improved performance, at least that is what i have seen .
Regards
Jack
P.S thanks for keeping an eye out, i appreciate it and thanks for actually replying to my thread as it seems nobody is interested/has the same problem
Final bump before i give up and cry :'(
I was thinking have you tried a third party launcher? I run Go launcher with Alienware lock/theme runs smooth and fast. Just a thought.
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Coded1337 said:
I was thinking have you tried a third party launcher? I run Go launcher with Alienware lock/theme runs smooth and fast. Just a thought.
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I'll give it a try but would i be correct in thinking that the Jellybean animations wouldnt work when changing apps etc...?
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Jack
I think there are launchers that have jelly bean animations you can search around and tell me what you come up with. Since alot of jelly bean updates have been dumped on various servers alot of apps and themes have integrated it.
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Did you try a third party launcher? Think I found a workaround if it didn't work.
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Jelly bean animation works on nova
Heck its a built in setting
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Did you try a third party launcher? Think I found a workaround if it didn't work.
DROID Bionic *1337_3.0*™
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Sorry for a late reply, I'm currently in France at the moment unfortunately I didn't try the launcher but would love to hear your workaround idea
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Jack
What rom do you have on your phone?
Why do you like it?
What dont you like about it?
Im curious to see what everyone is running
So far ive ran aokp, paranoid android, and cm10.
Im currently on cm10 and enjoy how professional it is. (explaining the swag button to potent galaxy buyers was kind of tough)
I would have kept paranoid android but the profiles didnt work and i didnt know how to use the dpi changer.
I also started this thread to see who uses android development ROMS instead of the original development ones
Im mainly interested in the non original android development roms users and their oppinions but everyone's answer is appreciated
My favorite was Codename Android, besides one major flaw that myself and very few others experienced: Impossible to send SMS longer than 160 characters, regardless of settings/reflashes/apn/etc. Just because it was the smoothest ROM for me.
I value UI smoothness above all else and have yet to find a ROM that is truly stutter free.
CM10 is ok, but if you go to clock and swipe to the side to go to timer it stutters like a pentium 2 running Crysis: Warhead.
Stock ICS ROM's lag, as well Facebook/third party app scrolling has constant stutter reminiscing of SGS1
JB Leaks (LIF, LIG, LIH) give me blackscreen reboots once in a while, although noticeably smoother than ICS.
I didn't mention battery life as quite frankly I can get a day of usage with every ROM I have tried so far which is nearly all of them.
I think I'm using stock ROM right now as I was fed up and just restored an old nandroid... I guess its ok, everything just works, lots of stutter's though. Doesn't have that premium feel you expect of a device at this price point.
inB4 go buy iphone5
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My favorite was Codename Android, besides one major flaw that myself and very few others experienced: Impossible to send SMS longer than 160 characters, regardless of settings/reflashes/apn/etc. Just because it was the smoothest ROM for me.
I value UI smoothness above all else and have yet to find a ROM that is truly stutter free.
CM10 is ok, but if you go to clock and swipe to the side to go to timer it stutters like a pentium 2 running Crysis: Warhead.
Stock ICS ROM's lag, as well Facebook/third party app scrolling has constant stutter reminiscing of SGS1
JB Leaks (LIF, LIG, LIH) give me blackscreen reboots once in a while, although noticeably smoother than ICS.
I didn't mention battery life as quite frankly I can get a day of usage with every ROM I have tried so far which is nearly all of them.
I think I'm using stock ROM right now as I was fed up and just restored an old nandroid... I guess its ok, everything just works, lots of stutter's though. Doesn't have that premium feel you expect of a device at this price point.
inB4 go buy iphone5
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Run AOKP then, it's extremely fast and smooth.
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Run AOKP then, it's extremely fast and smooth.
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I have tried multiple versions of it, still stutters on homescreen sometimes. Same Timer stutter as CM10 and annoying alarm bug (although there is a fix, it's inconvenient). As well the Nova launcher that AOKP uses, and pretty much all third party launchers have a little input lag due to non native integration or no hardware acceleration (not sure which, but the input lag is there).
Anyway I'll take my fluidity rant somewhere else, people seem happy with the current state of the phone.
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I have tried multiple versions of it, still stutters on homescreen sometimes. Same Timer stutter as CM10 and annoying alarm bug (although there is a fix, it's inconvenient). As well the Nova launcher that AOKP uses, and pretty much all third party launchers have a little input lag due to non native integration or no hardware acceleration (not sure which, but the input lag is there).
Anyway I'll take my fluidity rant somewhere else, people seem happy with the current state of the phone.
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The childishness of aokp turned me off since i looked at the boot logo but my gripes can all be easily fixed /hidden.
I havent noticed the speed difference but i do see tge lag you speak about but ive dismissed it as a hardware being underpowered to the rom issue and dont notice it as much anymore
So im still looking for answers from non original development users but to everyone else
>> What are the Cm10 vs aokp major Differences?
Here is a quick look at some of the differences
http://techie-buzz.com/android/aokp-vs-cm10.html
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Blazer Rom.
It's minimalistic, faster than stock without overclocking, great battery right out of the box, and EVERYTHING WORKS. take that jelly bean.
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Because its my ROM. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
I'm currently using cm10 and I find very awesome. It's fast and has a lot of great features. I tried AOKP and decided that IMO cm10 was closer to actual 4.1, but AOKP had many more features.
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I had been running AOKP for a week or so, I like its customization better than that of other ROMs.
I just yesterday found a new ROM called Paranoid KANGdroid. It pulls from CM10, AOKP, and Paranoid Android. Has pretty much all the features of all three. So much customization, I love it. Not fully stable, though, its only a few days old.
The stock ADW thing crashed into an infinite force close loop as soon as I applied a theme, the new version teases me with a bunch of EX stuff which I wont pay for on principle, and this FTL launcher should be called slower than lagged on my DINC, thing is way more unresponsive than stock, and has a huge long freeze on boot.
I don't want to have a lot of configuration options, or fancy animations, I just want fast and stable.
I think this should be the last of my many recent questions..
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The stock ADW thing crashed into an infinite force close loop as soon as I applied a theme, the new version teases me with a bunch of EX stuff which I wont pay for on principle, and this FTL launcher should be called slower than lagged on my DINC, thing is way more unresponsive than stock, and has a huge long freeze on boot.
I don't want to have a lot of configuration options, or fancy animations, I just want fast and stable.
I think this should be the last of my many recent questions..
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Launcher Pro. It's still in the Play Store. It hasn't seen an update since 2011, but, it's stable and fast. Doesn't use much memory and is fairly customizable. EG, 3D app drawer (one that doesn't actually lag), amount of screens, animations, amount of docks, icons, etc. I keep ADW in the rare case LP crashes, but it's only done so a hand full of times and I've used it for years.
Alternatively, Holo Launcher is alright. But it's slower. It looks like the stock ICS launcher.
perfect, thanks.. I'll use that and get the other for backup, since I didn't have a stock backup for adw, and I'm assuming the new version will be slower..
taosk8r said:
perfect, thanks.. I'll use that and get the other for backup, since I didn't have a stock backup for adw, and I'm assuming the new version will be slower..
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It looks real good so far.. I cant seem (LPP) to find any configuration options, so you know if there is a way to make it have more than 3 screens (pages?).
Edit: Ok, I hit menu, then preferences for config..