If anyone's using jellybean already, can you comment on how smooth browsing is? Has pinch to zoom and scrolling speed/choppiness been improved?
Pinch to zoom is significantly better. Scrolling is still "choppy" as you put it. The biggest improvement is the quick controls which is under labs in settings.
I use Chrome, so the browsing experience is the same. Not sure why you would want to use anything else since you can have it sync EVERYTHING between desktop/laptop/tablet/phone/etc. and also share tabs between devices as well.
Zoom is really smooth! However, I cannot confirm the choppy scrolling. The improvements are not too large overall, but on the other hand, nothing got worse either. ^^
A major drawback for some users might be that flash support ended with 4.0.4 and will not be extended beyond that by Adobe. If you are browsing a lot of flash sites, this may of course significantly affect your browsing experience.
On the other hand, with flash being disabled once and for all, this is a great opportunity to switch to Chrome, which has just grown out of the beta phase as of this week (...coincidence?). I like the Browsing experience with Chrome much better than with the stock browser (which applies to both 4.0.4 and 4.1).
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CT
CubicTom said:
Zoom is really smooth! However, I cannot confirm the choppy scrolling. The improvements are not too large overall, but on the other hand, nothing got worse either. ^^
A major drawback for some users might be that flash support ended with 4.0.4 and will not be extended beyond that by Adobe. If you are browsing a lot of flash sites, this may of course significantly affect your browsing experience.
On the other hand, with flash being disabled once and for all, this is a great opportunity to switch to Chrome, which has just grown out of the beta phase as of this week (...coincidence?). I like the Browsing experience with Chrome much better than with the stock browser (which applies to both 4.0.4 and 4.1).
Cheers
CT
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Chrome is awesome. The best feature being the convenience of sync. It should be made the default browser. I would love to see the quick controls added to chrome as well.
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Chrome is awesome. The best feature being the convenience of sync. It should be made the default browser. I would love to see the quick controls added to chrome as well.
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Yeah chrome is much better, I can see why they are going to push that stock with all updates now
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super_dk said:
Pinch to zoom is significantly better. Scrolling is still "choppy" as you put it. The biggest improvement is the quick controls which is under labs in settings.
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What new options did they add for the quick controls? Does it rival ICS+?
Also I can't use chrome till it can hide top bar, has quick controls, and has invert color option. Does chrome have those yet? Plus chrome is always choppy for me compared to stock browser.
Adobe flash player officially does not work on Chrome Browser for android 4.1 Jelly Bean... This to me is not improving browser experience even with all the other enhancements of the 4.1 browser...
Wait a second...choppy browser? The stock browsers in both ICS and JB are extremely smooth. The ICS browser introduced cached scrolling and zooming like in the iPhone, bringing iPhone like smoothness to the browser.
Runs butter smooth in both my Xperia Play ICS install and on my Galaxy Nexus, not sure what you guys are talking about.
Chrome still doesn't support this, so it can be choppy on large websites, but it's an add on browser, not stock.
Edit: I just tried the newest build of Chrome and it has been bumped up to the 60fps scrolling too using the cache tech. There's more clipping than the stock browser but it's now buttery smooth, even on complex sites using Jellybean
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Adobe flash player officially does not work on Chrome Browser for android 4.1 Jelly Bean... This to me is not improving browser experience even with all the other enhancements of the 4.1 browser...
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Chrome never supported Flash, even in ICS
I went back to AOKP Milestone 5, Chrome experience is much more fluid on that. Scrolling is perfect with Franco kernel m3. Hoping Jellybean gets there soon.
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Adobe flash player officially does not work on Chrome Browser for android 4.1 Jelly Bean... This to me is not improving browser experience even with all the other enhancements of the 4.1 browser...
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Uhhh mobile Flash is the worst user experience ever.
speedyink said:
Wait a second...choppy browser? The stock browsers in both ICS and JB are extremely smooth. The ICS browser introduced cached scrolling and zooming like in the iPhone, bringing iPhone like smoothness to the browser.
Runs butter smooth in both my Xperia Play ICS install and on my Galaxy Nexus, not sure what you guys are talking about.
Chrome still doesn't support this, so it can be choppy on large websites, but it's an add on browser, not stock.
Edit: I just tried the newest build of Chrome and it has been bumped up to the 60fps scrolling too using the cache tech. There's more clipping than the stock browser but it's now buttery smooth, even on complex sites using Jellybean
Chrome never supported Flash, even in ICS
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Yeah choppy. I said CHROME browser is always choppy for me, but stock browser is always smooth. Plus stock browser has more useful options I need which chrome is missing.
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Adobe flash player officially does not work on Chrome Browser for android 4.1 Jelly Bean... This to me is not improving browser experience even with all the other enhancements of the 4.1 browser...
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Guess you'll have to stick to playing Farmville in a different browser then. Also, Adobe stated that Flash is going to stop being supported for mobile devices, and will not support JB outside of early support over the next month or so.
RogerPodacter said:
What new options did they add for the quick controls? Does it rival ICS+?
Also I can't use chrome till it can hide top bar, has quick controls, and has invert color option. Does chrome have those yet? Plus chrome is always choppy for me compared to stock browser.
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I never used the browser or browser + on ICS because I found it convenient to use Chrome with all its syncing capabilities. With the new quick controls, I realize what is missing from chrome. The controls in JB browser are much more enhanced and as a result much more useful. They definitely rival that of the Browser +'s. Check out this video to look for yourself:
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/06/28/video-browser-quick-controls-get-a-makeover-in-jelly-bean/
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I never used the browser or browser + on ICS because I found it convenient to use Chrome with all its syncing capabilities. With the new quick controls, I realize what is missing from chrome. The controls in JB browser are much more enhanced and as a result much more useful. They definitely rival that of the Browser +'s. Check out this video to look for yourself:
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/06/28/video-browser-quick-controls-get-a-makeover-in-jelly-bean/
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Wow that's pretty useful. My current setup has 3 rings of quick controls in the browser which takes up the whole screen when they appear. Looks very efficient and useful in JB.
Dolphin HD Pinch to Zoom Appears Broken ATM in JB
Dolphin HD pinch to zoom is currently not working in JRN84D / 4.1 (MoDaCo ROM) which paralyzes the browser usability.
I don't have a scientific testing method, but overall it feels better, more responsive, quicker. You only really notice when you jump back to an ICS ROM.
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Does it have the thumb circle menu natively now? Or is it still in the 'google labs'?
Btw, does chrome have the thumb circle menu?
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Does it have the thumb circle menu natively now? Or is it still in the 'google labs'?
Btw, does chrome have the thumb circle menu?
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It's still in labs, but improved greatly. Chrome doesn't have it.
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sparksco said:
Adobe flash player officially does not work on Chrome Browser for android 4.1 Jelly Bean... This to me is not improving browser experience even with all the other enhancements of the 4.1 browser...
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flash doesn't work on chrome period (atleast for me). only use to keep the stock browser around.
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Nice, very nice Finally, full hardware accelerated web browser!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTpf0J5vfMs
Head to 50 seconds ...
Happy .. Happy .. Happy ..
I can now ditched Opera Mobile .
Hell, it's "finally, hardware accelerated UI!".
Lmao. Late to the party. One of the requirements of ICS is hardware acceleration of 2d elements of the ui/os. Its about f'in time google.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
I was hoping some of the browser controls would be at the bottom of the screen since it'll make browsing with one hand easier kinda like in opera mobile, reaching the top tab button will be a pita with your thumb with such a tall screen..
Is scrolling hardware accelerated too? One of the main reasons I liked samsung devices is because of the amazinh smooth scrolling.
Between the click of the light and the start of a dream.
The scrolling and pinching/zooming looks pretty quick and smooth.
I'd like to see the results of a SGS2 browser test ran the Galaxy Nexus: open a bunch of pages with flash videos playing at the same time (I think there were over 10), and then zoom/pinch one of them. The SGS2 handled that without lag. I'd like to see the HTML5 and Flash results from the GUIMark3 benchmark, too.
The Sunspider result is 1983ms (vs. 3385ms for SGS2, smaller is better) and the V8 version 6 result is 1387 (vs. 336 for SGS2, larger is better), so that bodes well for browsing on the Galaxy Nexus.
Cant wait for the ics to my nexus s. Damn smooth
Every video I see makes me more and more excited for ICS and the GN. So damn sick.
[Q] GPU rendering (smoooth scrolling) in Browser
Hi,
I can't find info whether Google implemented GPU scrolling in ICS ala iOS or Samsung in their latest 2.3.4+ firmwares for GS and GS2?
That's only thing that's keeping me away from AOSP (CM7 now), but if it's in the ICS now, I wouldn't care about Samsung abandoning SG1.
If anyone has NG, please try. Thanks.
From the videos I've seen, the whole os is hardware accelerated including the browser
Galaid said:
Hi,
I can't find info whether Google implemented GPU scrolling in ICS ala iOS or Samsung in their latest 2.3.4+ firmwares for GS and GS2?
That's only thing that's keeping me away from AOSP (CM7 now), but if it's in the ICS now, I wouldn't care about Samsung abandoning SG1.
If anyone has NG, please try. Thanks.
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Everything OS-wise is supposed to be 2D Hardware Accelerated according to the Android Code release page. However, it might be more sluggish compared to the SGS2, as they're both Hardware-Accelerated, but the SGS2 is only pushing 480*800 while the Nexus coming in at 1280*720.
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dnlsmy said:
Everything OS-wise is supposed to be 2D Hardware Accelerated according to the Android Code release page. However, it might be more sluggish compared to the SGS2, as they're both Hardware-Accelerated, but the SGS2 is only pushing 480*800 while the Nexus coming in at 1280*720.
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The British tech blog, The Inquirer, posted a short review of the Galaxy Prime. This is what it had to say about performance:
"We certainly noticed the speed when browsing the web and opening apps, but we did notice a slight lag when changing the orientation of the device."
The article doesn't mention if the review device was running 4.01 that had the fix for video stuttering and whatnot.
dnlsmy said:
Everything OS-wise is supposed to be 2D Hardware Accelerated according to the Android Code release page. However, it might be more sluggish compared to the SGS2, as they're both Hardware-Accelerated, but the SGS2 is only pushing 480*800 while the Nexus coming in at 1280*720.
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You'd be surprised how little power is required to perform full 2D acceleration.
Galaid said:
Hi,
I can't find info whether Google implemented GPU scrolling in ICS ala iOS or Samsung in their latest 2.3.4+ firmwares for GS and GS2?
That's only thing that's keeping me away from AOSP (CM7 now), but if it's in the ICS now, I wouldn't care about Samsung abandoning SG1.
If anyone has NG, please try. Thanks.
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In Android Central's quick look video of the Galaxy Nexus that was posted today, the narrator mentions that the entire device is hardware accelerated multiple times.
I can't post links yet, but you can find the video embedded in the 4th story on the second page of Android Central. Likewise, you can search YouTube for "galaxy nexus, today" (without the quotes) and it's the first video.
Hope this helps!
NotHotWater said:
In Android Central's quick look video of the Galaxy Nexus that was posted today, the narrator mentions that the entire device is hardware accelerated multiple times.
I can't post links yet, but you can find the video embedded in the 4th story on the second page of Android Central. Likewise, you can search YouTube for "galaxy nexus, today" (without the quotes) and it's the first video.
Hope this helps!
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I've just seen the video at the AndroidCentral.com. The browser is fast, but the point is not how quick you can scroll the page (it is quick), but how smooth is the actuall scrolling. If you saw iOS in personal (or Samsung 2.3.5+ firmwares for SGS1/SGS2) compared to AOSP, you'd know what I'm talking about.
No smooth browsing as I can see so far, unfortunately.
Galaid said:
I've just seen the video at the AndroidCentral.com. The browser is fast, but the point is not how quick you can scroll the page (it is quick), but how smooth is the actuall scrolling. If you saw iOS in personal (or Samsung 2.3.5+ firmwares for SGS1/SGS2) compared to AOSP, you'd know what I'm talking about.
No smooth browsing as I can see so far, unfortunately.
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How do you expect to see 60fps smoothness on a heavily compressed 30 fps video?
And it's getting worse since there is no vsync between phone display and camera when recording the video (of course).
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tjtj4444 said:
How do you expect to see 60fps smoothness on a heavily compressed 30 fps video?
And it's getting worse since there is no vsync between phone display and camera when recording the video (of course).
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Do you see on the long webpage partial appearing of the page while scrolling on sgs2? On NG?
Have you ever tried Opera Mobile? Even on my SGS it has amazing performance, and you don't see parts of the webpage only render correctly after a delay. It's all 60FPS and rendered right away.
These guys beat Samsung and Google for performance. Only issue is their browser takes a few seconds to start up.
From this video I would say the scrolling in the browser is quite smooth. I had a SGS II before so I have the comparison.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S95lsIcxwqY&feature=related
Edit: This video is a good one in English.
Here ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1315505
Good eh? Happy now?
If only the aosp browser on Gingerbread was hardware accelerated, coming from the stock touchwiz rom and an iPhone 4s before that, the aosp browser's pinch to zoom and scrolling is just not as smooth as on sites that i frequent alot and it bothers me a lot. I can install Opera but it ruins the "aosp experience" by having to use 3rd party apps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1375125
I wonder if this would make the aosp browser "iphone smooth" on the E4GT
Cant wait for a AOSP ICS with a real HW accelerated browser
Latest youtube app can now play HD on our phones, no more need to use Dolphin for HD on youtube.
Videos play smoothly, though I have had a problem with HD needing to buffer a lot even when I am getting 20 Mbps down.
On the bright side HD content looks amazing on the Nitro's screen.
I was Beginning to think it was just my phone acting up on YouTube. The audio was always fine, but the video never was. I hope this update fixes that.
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Well I updated YouTube and rebooted the phone. Still glitchy video. Been that way the whole time I've owned the phone. Wtf
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What do you mean by glitchy?
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What do you mean by glitchy?
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Downloaded the latest one (fresh install), and I agree with both you Kindawack as well as allstar. Yes, the HD videos look magnificent (just saw the avengers trailer n by God it's gorgeous n super sharp), and yes, youtube can run HD videos BETTER now. The reason I say better and that I agree with allstar is because I still see random stuttering in video play. That is wat allstar meant by glitchy. What happens is that the video framerates fall behind the audio playback and eventually 'jumps/speeds up' to catch up to the audio.
Now with the latest youtube app, the glitch is actually at a minimum and happens randomly. Throughout the trailer, it only glitched on me around 4-5 times and I almost barely noticed them. So I agree this version addresses the glitches. Now the rest of the stuttering falls on the phone itself and properly allocating resources to youtube.
EDIT: Nope, forget it, glitch is still there, in full affect. Just saw another HD video, the new Gorillaz video, DoYaThing, and you can tell from 2D's movement that it's there. He will slightly slow down as he moves, and then sprints back to frame.
Oh he meant dropped frames,not that surprising I got them on 480P as well.
And on top of none-smooth playback it rebuffers even on wifi 40mbps connection...I think Google optimizes it's software only for it's flagship phones (Nexus), until it gets HD display we shall not see any improvements on Nitro....My theory
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And on top of none-smooth playback it rebuffers even on wifi 40mbps connection...I think Google optimizes it's software only for it's flagship phones (Nexus), until it gets HD display we shall not see any improvements on Nitro....My theory
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The Galaxy Nexus does have an HD screen.
Hmmm...then I guess it's due to no optimization from LG side? Perhaps the lag we experiencing in the UI is related?
why don't you guys just use opera and flash 11? I use it all the time and get no lag and it works great and fast. Also opera or maxathon are the smoothest browsers for non ics phones right now. There is virtually no lag while scrolling with these 2 browsers.
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why don't you guys just use opera and flash 11? I use it all the time and get no lag and it works great and fast. Also opera or maxathon are the smoothest browsers for non ics phones right now. There is virtually no lag while scrolling with these 2 browsers.
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Because using a browser for youtube is very unwieldy and awkward.
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And on top of none-smooth playback it rebuffers even on wifi 40mbps connection...I think Google optimizes it's software only for it's flagship phones (Nexus), until it gets HD display we shall not see any improvements on Nitro....My theory
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i dont get any rebuffering issues though. runs smoothly on both wifi or 4G/LTE. Other than drop frames, everything else seems fine.
I recently upgraded to the Mate 20 X and I'm finding the scrolling performance in Chrome browser to be a very poor stuttery mess.
Try this out,
load up the chrome browser, in the address/search bar type 'brownie recipe', now slowly scroll the page up and down, hitching, stuttering, not smooth at all.
Now do the same but use the google app, buttery smooth? doesn't make sense.
Now enable performance mode in the battery settings menu and try the same in chrome browser again, buttery smooth?
I swear when these phones were sent out for review they all had the performance mode on by default.
lowrider007 said:
I recently upgraded to the Mate 20 X and I'm finding the scrolling performance in Chrome browser to be a very poor stuttery mess.
Try this out,
load up the chrome browser, in the address/search bar type 'brownie recipe', now slowly scroll the page up and down, hitching, stuttering, not smooth at all.
Now do the same but use the google app, buttery smooth? doesn't make sense.
Now enable performance mode in the battery settings menu and try the same in chrome browser again, buttery smooth?
I swear when these phones were sent out for review they all had the performance mode on by default.
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After using Chrome for years I switched to Samsung Browser Beta and everything is smooth. It even has a dark mode and all web pages you visit are dark when dark mode is enabled. It has add-on support as well and fingerprint login for whatever websites you want. I'll never use Chrome again.
Hello, I use Chrome Dev instead of Chrome and everything is ok.
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Better you use Samsung Internet Browser + Adblock
For all it's worth I have no such issues with Firefox Beta, however it is not one of the fastest Android browsers to begin with, but it is extremely configurable. Great assortment of extensions (uBlock Origin, Cookie AutoDelete, etc), bookmark synching, DNS over https, and a ton of other options under about:config
lowrider007 said:
I recently upgraded to the Mate 20 X and I'm finding the scrolling performance in Chrome browser to be a very poor stuttery mess.
Try this out,
load up the chrome browser, in the address/search bar type 'brownie recipe', now slowly scroll the page up and down, hitching, stuttering, not smooth at all.
Now do the same but use the google app, buttery smooth? doesn't make sense.
Now enable performance mode in the battery settings menu and try the same in chrome browser again, buttery smooth?
I swear when these phones were sent out for review they all had the performance mode on by default.
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Mine is buttery smooth when doing this, the only "lag" is loading more recipes at the bottom of page, but scrolling is like cutting warm butter.
no issues on mine, but I am in performance mode all the time...
I had poor performance with Chrome too. Problems was with the Chrome beta testing which selected my Phone to go 2G-network on newspaper site.
Is there currently a way to have Chrome take advantage of the 120Hz refresh rate? While I have 120Hz selected on my S20+ I noticed Chrome scrolling wasn't as smooth as in other apps.
Going to https://testufo.com/ confirms my observations as it reports 60Hz. It does work properly in the Samsung browser despite giving stutter warnings.
Weird, testufo is reporting 120Hz on Chrome for me.
S20+, ATBM, all current.
corwin_amber said:
Weird, testufo is reporting 120Hz on Chrome for me.
S20+, ATBM, all current.
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Are you using the main version of Chrome or Chrome beta? Main version here
Edit - While I've noticed scrolling smoothness issues in Chrome before, I force closed the browser and re-launched it and it's working. I'll see if it's just an intermittent thing or something
Haven't had it drop down to 60Hz in Chrome, but scrolling is still really bad! Might just stick with the Samsung browser or something at this point (I like the layout of the Edge browser, but there's too many issues with it otherwise)
I have to say that I prefer the Samsung browser anyway: It has a good dark mode and it supports ad blocking plugins. But that is a personal preference.
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I have to say that I prefer the Samsung browser anyway: It has a good dark mode and it supports ad blocking plugins. But that is a personal preference.
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I just might try it out - as long as 1Password works with it (I'll check)
Update - yes it does! Now to install the Chrome bookmark sync extension on my desktop. Thanks!
Update 2 - scrolling performance is even worse on the Samsung browser! Guess I'll just have to live with this issue for now.
Sometimes when the phone is too hot, it will change back to 60Hz and may have the significantly lags.
I've also experieced the same problem after I do the wireless charging and the back of the phone got so hot, and the chipset (Exynos) got thermal throttling. The phone became very laggy and when I checked with screen info, it went down to 60Fps.
Unless my eyes are tricking me, Firefox seems to be showing me 120hz smoothness? Tried a few different sites to check. Got a few extensions installed, too.