[Q] Google Play W/O Root - Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm was wandering if anyone knows of a way to get Google Play on my Kindle Fire without root?
I don't want to root because I sent in for the warrenty once, so it would be a big help. I'm not new to the tech game so don't to me like I don't know what I'm doing plz.

AlphaKill said:
I'm not new to the tech game so don't to me like I don't know what I'm doing plz.
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Shouldn't you be experienced enough to use the search, then?
Easiest way: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1399889

I guess you cant even read I said without root.
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AlphaKill said:
I guess you cant even read I said without root.
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You cannot run Google Play without root permissions because it will only run as a system app with the proper permissions which you need root to modify. As far as warranty goes, you can restore a rooted kindle fire to stock and remove any proof of the fact that it has ever been rooted by following one of the guides to return to stock.
I used to have my KF completely bricked after running ICS and different ROMs on it and so forth and recently sent it back to Amazon for ghosting. After having restored it to stock and doing a factory reset, it couldn't be differentiated from one that was brand new out of the box.

Thanks but I still think there's got to be a way to mod Google play because I have 1 mobile and it works flawlessly, so I guess ill try to mod it
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AlphaKill said:
Thanks but I still think there's got to be a way to mod Google play because I have 1 mobile and it works flawlessly, so I guess ill try to mod it
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No, there is not a way to do it without root permission. You have to have root access to move to system/apk and change permissions.
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http://www.jayceooi.com/2011/12/11/...rket-apps-on-kindle-fire-without-root-access/ good luck

AlphaKill said:
Thanks but I still think there's got to be a way to mod Google play because I have 1 mobile and it works flawlessly, so I guess ill try to mod it
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I appreciate your drive and willingness to try but the reason it won't work is because even if you were to find a way to get the app to run without being run from system/app you will still not be able to use it to install apps. The way it was designed to integrate with android is to contact google's servers and directly install the app to your device using its own permissions derived from it being a system app. If it doesn't have those permissions it won't know what to do and will crash. It cannot just download the app to a folder like 1mobile does. I understand that you want to use google play without rooting, I tried to do it too before I eventually gave in and rooted, but trust me you will be much happier with the device when you have root permissions. If you decide to stay with the stock amazon version of android I would recommend trying modaco's rooted stock ROM which comes with google play already installed, it will not only save you the trouble of having to attempt to install the app yourself (which is actually more of a hassle than you would think) but it also has better stability than stock does and you don't have to worry about amazon upgrading you overnight without your permission and you losing root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1439916

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Hulu and Flash 10.1

I'm sure you guys have noticed that Hulu claims our platform isn't supported. I was wondering if anyone has tried this technique yet to get Hulu to believe the flash player is installed on a windows box? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=794512
I haven't tried it yet, but I know by default I cannot uninstall the Flash 10.1 build that was included on the phone in order to install the fixed apk...
I pretty much decided that since HSPA+ doesn't cover the WHOLE of my city yet then I won't bother with data heavy sites like Hulu on my phone for now.
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this phone only pulls up mobile sites by default? theres no way of changing that like on the n1?
k0shi said:
this phone only pulls up mobile sites by default? theres no way of changing that like on the n1?
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type about:debug in the address bar.. nothing will happen.. go to menu => settings => UAStrings => choose Desktop
Thanks worked awesome
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would there be any drawbacks from doing this ?
Because of no root you have to do it quiet often
bled82 said:
would there be any drawbacks from doing this ?
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this isn't working for me. anybody know any reason there might be for that?
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j.books said:
this isn't working for me. anybody know any reason there might be for that?
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worked like a charm for me, however;
"Unfortunately Hulu is not supported on your platform. We apologize for any inconvenience."
ImSoHungry said:
worked like a charm for me, however;
"Unfortunately Hulu is not supported on your platform. We apologize for any inconvenience."
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hence the need for a flash build that reports itself as a desktop. The browser will report as a desktop if you do the debug trick, but flash itself is still reporting itself as an android phone.
The link I posted at the top had an apk with a custom build of flash that reports as a desktop, but I can't get it to install on my phone.
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hence the need for a flash build that reports itself as a desktop. The browser will report as a desktop if you do the debug trick, but flash itself is still reporting itself as an android phone.
The link I posted at the top had an apk with a custom build of flash that reports as a desktop, but I can't get it to install on my phone.
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what i tried. used temp root, then got root in adb shell. rm system flash player, then cp new flash to system/app. installed hulu.apk, still same not supported error. also did the about:debug, same prob
whats wierd is after i rm flash, it still shows under manage apps. can it be installed somewhere else as well?
also how could i rm the cache of the stock player?
fastludeh22 said:
what i tried. used temp root, then got root in adb shell. rm system flash player, then cp new flash to system/app. installed hulu.apk, still same not supported error. also did the about:debug, same prob
whats wierd is after i rm flash, it still shows under manage apps. can it be installed somewhere else as well?
also how could i rm the cache of the stock player?
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instead of removing flash using adb, maybe try using Titanium? Sounded like some people on other phones had success that way. I haven't messed around with temp root yet so I can't try it myself.
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instead of removing flash using adb, maybe try using Titanium? Sounded like some people on other phones had success that way. I haven't messed around with temp root yet so I can't try it myself.
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Good idea. I have titanium installed and got it root access, now how do I use it to remove and install apps, lol
fastludeh22 said:
Good idea. I have titanium installed and got it root access, now how do I use it to remove and install apps, lol
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can you give any insight how to get titanium root access would be much appreciated
mcp2009 said:
can you give any insight how to get titanium root access would be much appreciated
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sure. its a little tricky, lol. read entire first post here, temp root, its been updated: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=797042
as you read you only do stage 1 once (not needed if you have done temp root already)
then before you do stage 2, open titanium, it will say it doesnt have root, thats ok, exit out of it.
complete stage 2, do NOT exit term (sometimes it works if you do, most time not)
long press home to bring up recent apps. click on titanum. most likely will say no root, thats ok.
hit menu and reload titanum, boom superuser request. grant it and your in there for this session!
good luck, have fun, hope this helps...
Thanks man I'll try when I get home.
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Just curious what good is having root right now?
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k0shi said:
Just curious what good is having root right now?
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The only thing I wanted it for right now was to use Titanium Backup to restore my apps w/data from my G1.
Oh so if I made a backup from my nexus one its saved on my sd card and I can just restore from there?!
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The only thing I wanted it for right now was to use Titanium Backup to restore my apps w/data from my G1.
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Oh so if I made a backup from my nexus one its saved on my sd card and I can just restore from there?!
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Yeah, all of the apps and the relevant settings. TB is great that way. I often used to restore between rom flashes on my G1.

Update break market.

6.2_User_3003020 break market. I will try to find out when I get home
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mashi said:
6.2_User_3003020 break market. I will try to find out when I get home
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Find out what when you get home?
Old news.
mashi said:
6.2_User_3003020 break market. I will try to find out when I get home
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Strange, both Android Market and Apps store working fine here.
tejones36 said:
Strange, both Android Market and Apps store working fine here.
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Confirm, Market and Apps working normally. I'm not sure what this update did.
did it break root?
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Broke market and root here...
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Update broke Market and all of my third-party keyboards (pretty much everything I had to manually put in system/app. Root, however, was not broken.
For good measure, though, I reverted to stock and re-rooted. Re-installed Market and G-Apps framework. No cigar. Market and keyboards are still broken and FC on launch.
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Update broke Market and all of my third-party keyboards (pretty much everything I had to manually put in system/app. Root, however, was not broken.
For good measure, though, I reverted to stock and re-rooted. Re-installed Market and G-Apps framework. No cigar. Market and keyboards are still broken and FC on launch.
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Did you use Titanium Backup to convert Market and Keyboards to system apps? Alternatively move them (from /data) into /system/app and set the appropriate permissions/ownership.
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Did you use Titanium Backup to convert Market and Keyboards to system apps? Alternatively move them (from /data) into /system/app and set the appropriate permissions/ownership.
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Doh! I forgot permissions.
Everything is working now, thanks.
BBCasper said:
Doh! I forgot permissions.
Everything is working now, thanks.
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Easy mistake to make
Mine automagically updated, lost root, just ran superoneclick again and everything seems to be normal, what changed with this update?
Quantas said:
Mine automagically updated, lost root, just ran superoneclick again and everything seems to be normal, what changed with this update?
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I'm sure it was just Amazon giving us rooters the middle finger. ;-)
browser and faster overall confirmed
Delete me please.
Update break market? What a weird thread we have going here. Anyway, this update is annoying, nothing more.
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Since the update, I'm getting constant force closes from market when installing apps/opening market. Worked before. Anyone got an idea?
I uninstalled and removed vending.apk from system/apps, I reinstalled it, ensured permissions were solid. Clear data/cache just to be safe.
SuperOneClick/ZergRush confirmed working over here as a re-root method. Market and G-apps confirmed working after re-install, fixing permissions (via root explorer for me) and restarting.
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SuperOneClick/ZergRush confirmed working over here as a re-root method. Market and G-apps confirmed working after re-install, fixing permissions (via root explorer for me) and restarting.
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Same here. Everything working as before. Is there any info on what actually changed?
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I just re-rooted with the rootkindlefire.com method, market works, root is back, didn't have to fix permissions, only had to reinstall my keyboard.
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I took the upgrade, market and gapps were fine.
Only lack of root.

"S-On?"

I rooted my Note2 and have root access, but I think I'm missing something... I reset my phone and the system apps reset themselves. On my Glacier you had to turn security off to keep it from happening, and I was wondering what needs to be done to prevent it on this device.
All I did was root, install cwm, then install Su. Does it have to do with deodexing? I'm unfimiliar with what it means and would appreciate some guidance in the right direction.
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HTC devices. Do a little more reading and you'll find the difference, I find Sammy devices are a lot easier to play with compared to HTC, having owned several of both.
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There is no such thing as S-on and S-off on Samsung devices as they already ship with an unlocked bootloader. If you are doing a factory reset on any phone, all of the system apps should be wiped as well, so I don't really understand your question.
odrecords said:
I rooted my Note2 and have root access, but I think I'm missing something... I reset my phone and the system apps reset themselves. On my Glacier you had to turn security off to keep it from happening, and I was wondering what needs to be done to prevent it on this device.
All I did was root, install cwm, then install Su. Does it have to do with deodexing? I'm unfimiliar with what it means and would appreciate some guidance in the right direction.
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Don't worry, I understand what you're talking about.
Started happening with the Galaxy S3 on T-Mobile as well since the most recent JB update
You "freeze" an app in Titanium Backup, and it freezes just fine, but after the very next reboot that app is back in action and active in the background. Very frustrating, I know.
The two apps I noticed this with were T-Mobile's My Account app and Zynga games (really??)
Here's the solution - uninstall the offending apps. That'll teach em!
Uninstalling works just fine, but for example when I install the older version of YouTube (which I prefer over the new) and restart my phone, the version it ships with is reinstalled.
Also, when I flash a zip that installs the apk into the system app folder, it gets wiped after a reboot.
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I know that there were two files you had to remove to prevent reboots from reflashing stock recovery, I would imagine this is the same thing - problem is, I don't know what files to remove (I don't have the Note 2 yet so I can't go poking around to look for them)
But I am sure you can find/remove them.
This is why I stick with CM10, I can't stand the control T-Mobile and Samsung try to maintain on our devices
I can't find the info! BTW, the search function on the mobile app is not very good. Haha
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odrecords said:
I rooted my Note2 and have root access, but I think I'm missing something... I reset my phone and the system apps reset themselves. On my Glacier you had to turn security off to keep it from happening, and I was wondering what needs to be done to prevent it on this device.
All I did was root, install cwm, then install Su. Does it have to do with deodexing? I'm unfimiliar with what it means and would appreciate some guidance in the right direction.
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there is no s-on or s-off for samsung, thats just a htc thing. you root, install cwm w/ Su and you're done.

[Q] Need help since I'm new to Sammy

Earlier this week my Sensation 4g died. I bought a Note 2. Little did I know that there were issues with it that I and others have with it, ie: no easy immediate way to do app to sd for instance. Another thing I wanted was to be able to add or take away data from installed apps by connecting the phone to a computer via usb and accessing the files that way, which again doesn't happen without some work.
Since then I have rooted the phone (according to the download mode screen, which says: current binary and system status is custom.
I have left everything stock except for the rooting part and installed Superuser and SuperSU and then tried to run Titanium Backup (free) when it said 'could not access root using \something\something\su command".
I have tried several other apps and methods of trying to do what I want (from the first paragraph) but none have succeeded either due lack of documentation (and I didn't know how to do a certain step or fix something) or it just didn't work.
So where am I at now? I have factory reset my phone and am now honestly not sure where to go or what to do from here. I've Googled and Googled but nothing quite seems to be able to fix what I need and if it does then it has the lack of documentation and can't help me.
Any thoughts or guides or something that anyone could post/link to? Thanks.
I believe this lets you save to SD
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1960935
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funziebear said:
I believe this lets you save to SD
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1960935
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If I'm not mistaken but kernels don't deal with being able to save apps to sd. I could be wrong since I don't dabble in android dev. Thanks though.
We need background... 1st of all...
What way did you use to root (Cf_auto_root, Stock-root injected, etc)?
Does your phone still have exynos_exploit or did your phone come with that "OTA Update" pre installed?
What SD card are you using?
What rom/kernal are you trying to run?
Most of the time, in this particular forum, its seems best to just ask what your trying to accomplish within the various rom/kernal thread...
Like lets say im on Stick injected rom/kernal without extsd2internalsd (apps2sd) setup and lets say I want to go to Jedi Master 9.... I would then go to Jedi Master 9 thread and ask for help on how to effectively apply that rom with ExtSd2internalsd support from my current setup, and wait for the OP or seniors to reply... also while "patiently waiting" I would read/search through the hundreds of pages looking for answers/insights to my particular process... if needed might go to my own root process thread and ask for advice on how to get to jedi master 9
Id be more than willing to help you here but need some background on your phones current status and end rom/kernal to provide an answer (to be sure I dont lead you awry
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PhxDroid86 said:
We need background... 1st of all...
What way did you use to root (Cf_auto_root, Stock-root injected, etc)?
Does your phone still have exynos_exploit or did your phone come with that "OTA Update" pre installed?
What SD card are you using?
What rom/kernal are you trying to run?
Most of the time, in this particular forum, its seems best to just ask what your trying to accomplish within the various rom/kernal thread...
Like lets say im on Stick injected rom/kernal without extsd2internalsd (apps2sd) setup and lets say I want to go to Jedi Master 9.... I would then go to Jedi Master 9 thread and ask for help on how to effectively apply that rom with ExtSd2internalsd support from my current setup, and wait for the OP or seniors to reply... also while "patiently waiting" I would read/search through the hundreds of pages looking for answers/insights to my particular process... if needed might go to my own root process thread and ask for advice on how to get to jedi master 9
Id be more than willing to help you here but need some background on your phones current status and end rom/kernal to provide an answer (to be sure I dont lead you awry
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Thanks. I did answer that I am running everything stock at the moment, just rooted, no kernel or rom. I have an 8gb class 4 microsd card. My root method was cf auto root. I also stated what I was hoping to achieve also (in my first paragraph). Hopefully this helps.
Oh, if possible I'd like the easiest way to remove or disable system apps like chat on or some of the tmobile stuff. I tried a couple different methods with that too but couldn't quite get it all to work.
I tried the qtadb app but couldn't get my device to be seen by the program on the computer and i tried that app because I had no idea where to start with regular adb, its been a long time since i've done any of this stuff.
To remove or disable system apps I use root uninstaller, sometimes it won't delete system apps on the first try just exit the app go back and do it again second attemt will do, for your data problem I'll try root browser or root Explorer
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To remove or disable system apps I use root uninstaller, sometimes it won't delete system apps on the first try just exit the app go back and do it again second attemt will do, for your data problem I'll try root browser or root Explorer
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Hmm ok thanks. I'll try those out when I get a chance. Thanks.
I always remove bloatware through Titanium Backup or with a debloated rom
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I always remove bloatware through Titanium Backup or with a debloated rom
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Doesn't that just lead back to my first problem of not being able to get Titanium Backup to run on my phone?
Are you sure your rooted (root checker)? I honestly havent heard of anyone else being unable to install rooted apps (unless they werent rooted (those people generally rerooted to solve that issue)
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Are you sure your rooted (root checker)? I honestly havent heard of anyone else being unable to install rooted apps (unless they werent rooted (those people generally rerooted to solve that issue)
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Well it turns out you can download and install apps requiring root but they just wont run correctly, if at all. I know because after my factory reset, i downloaded and ran 2 root checker apps, both of which said I no longer have root or something. So now I'm just going through the rooting process again.
Edit: I'm not rooted again, as checked by 2 root confirmation apps. Now to try to get TB running and remove bloatware.
Edit 2: Great success! I got TB to work, bought PRO and have just frozen everything i dont need or dont use.
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Well it turns out you can download and install apps requiring root but they just wont run correctly, if at all. I know because after my factory reset, i downloaded and ran 2 root checker apps, both of which said I no longer have root or something. So now I'm just going through the rooting process again.
Edit: I'm not rooted again, as checked by 2 root confirmation apps. Now to try to get TB running and remove bloatware.
Edit 2: Great success! I got TB to work, bought PRO and have just frozen everything i dont need or dont use.
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Much easier to use odin from mr robinson. Its already been prerooted
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[Q] Delete Play Store Account????????

I have rooted and installed Play Store on my FRIENDS Kindle HD
I have tested the play store by installing some apps.
Now I want to give him the device back but not with my account stored in it, can I delete my account without a factory reset?
HELP!
No
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uktotty said:
I have rooted and installed Play Store on my FRIENDS Kindle HD
I have tested the play store by installing some apps.
Now I want to give him the device back but not with my account stored in it, can I delete my account without a factory reset?
HELP!
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google play store? of course you can you have to go the app and press the three dots in the raight and choce acounts. or you just can go back and unistall google play and reinstall
uktotty said:
I have rooted and installed Play Store on my FRIENDS Kindle HD
I have tested the play store by installing some apps.
Now I want to give him the device back but not with my account stored in it, can I delete my account without a factory reset?
HELP!
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Delete one file (/data/system/account.db) and reboot device.
Yup what he said ran into this probkem after a friend asked me to root her kobo and install play i tested it then had trouble removing my account just remove that file
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So that's how I get other people to help lol
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So that's how I get other people to help lol
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Lol. We all appreciate it though.
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Account Removal, Removal, Google, Gmail
New to this. Where do I find the File "account.db". Not exactly sure what I am missing.
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