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Hi there,
i just got my new Nexus and i'm a little upset about how it behaves.
before i had the galaxy note, testing it for about 1 week. i was very happy with the notes connectivity (GSM / HSPA+ / WiFi) and its really great screen.
however, it was just to big to operate it with one hand and didn't do it for me so i switched to the nexus. Now to the problems i'm faceing:
- GSM / HSPA+ seems to keep switching all the time for no reason? Didn't have that problem with the note tought.
- With the Galaxy Note i had a H+ inducator telling me i'm on HSPA+ and i had like HSPA+ nearly all the time. now i only (at best) get a H indicator. I checked if i'm owning the GSM & HSPA+ version and since the device name is "yakju" i'm quite sure i got it. Is the indicator missing because there simply is no indicator for HSPA+ on the nexus or is it missing because i'm not getting a HSPA+ connection? What could cause this?
- The connection quality of the nexsus seems very poor compared to the galaxy note. can anybody verify that or is it only me haveing troubles? Example: i allways had bad connection within my kitchen (Desire HD previously). I even replaced my SIM with no luck. With the Note ALL MY CONNECTION PROBLEMS were just gone! Cristal-clear calls, no interruptions (even thought the signal indicator was showing only 1-2 bars out of 4)
- The AMOLED Display of the nexsus is not nearly as sharp as the notes one. Also, when pulling the brightness level down to about 20% i get "smudge" on the screen
- when i use the ICS Live wallpaper my desktop starts lagging when i rotate between the views. is that normal? i had the official ICS live wallpaper on the desire HD, which had only one core, and it didn't lag at all (even with particles turned up to lot higher values then the default)
- Yesterday my Nexus just turned off (I'm not talking about the reboot bug, which i also haved faced like 5 times allready) and for like 1 hour i was unable to turn it on. I tried to remove the battery for like 5 minutes, putting it back in, plugging the charger in and trying to boot the device: no reaction, just nothing! After like 30 tries it suddenly just booted again, DOH!
- even thought as far as i know ICS 4.0.4 has been rolled out allready, i still got no update pushed to my phone (still on 4.0.1 ITL41D). is that normal?
Could anybody please help me to find out if that's normal? I still could replace my Nexus if its broken.
P.s.: I'm on the T-mobile net, germany.
Upgrade to 4.0.4, this will solve your issues. If you don't want to wait for it to be pushed to your phone search on the forum for a 'how to'.
Its just you.... I don't have these problems.. my nexus just shut it self down twice...everything else is perfect... the connextiom issue is odd... because I seem to get full signal everywhere except in the bathroom
Sent from my Samsung GNexus <3
first off, thanks for the answers so far.
manual update to 4.0.4 would need rooting, which voilates waranty.
so i have to wait till it comes over the air. (thought, i'm on 4.0.2 since about 2 hours now. no noticeable improovements.)
what i found out so far is that i'm currently on HSPA at best (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7893188&postcount=10 HSPA:11 indicator) which is shown by a H indicator at the notification bar.
however, i didn't see H+ indicator.
so: looking at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galaxy_Nexus the Nexus does have HSPA+. Looking at https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galaxy_Nexus is sais it dosn't have!
Whats right? Is there a version without HSPA+?
What about the other problems i'm faceing:
- low GSM / HSDPA connectivity, continious switching between modes
- low performance when using the official ICS wallpaper (even thought benchmarks say everything's fine with the device itself, the wallpaper has a visible lag compared to "static" wallpapers)
would be great you guys could provide me bit more feedback if its just me so i can decide if i want to replace my nexus with a new one.
Hey,
Before carrying on I am fully rooted which may be why I don't have your Issues.
Signal wise I have noticed that the galaxy nexus' signal is slightly weaker compared to some of the other phones I have owned more noticeably poor and voice call quality is good. Perhaps a signal check in your area or call your service provider to see if they can run a signal diagnostic on your handset to see if anything faulty.
As for h+ I did a little Google of this and found another xda forum post. From what I can see there is no + symbol on the nexus and everyone gets just the H symbol.
As for your lag I agree certain ones will create slower scrolling however that's only crazy cpu intensive wallpapers. The ones he phone came with and nexus revamped etc create no Lagg for me.
Maybe your having a little more issues with your handset than I am, I know there has been a lot of issues but as people have said they are solved with the updates. Maybe look at rooting? Generally speaking it gets rid of all issues and you can always flash back to stock if needs be?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA
Ow I'm using gsm nexus on vodafone in the UK
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA
jordanprudent said:
Signal wise I have noticed that the galaxy nexus' signal is slightly weaker compared to some of the other phones I have owned[...]
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Perhaps a signal check in your area or call your service provider to see if they can run a signal diagnostic on your handset to see if anything faulty.
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did that already. about 20KM around me i got 100% GSM, UMTS, HSDPA and even LTE coverage. Also like i said before: the galaxy note was like 100% better in terms of signal strenght and voice quallity.
any infos about the signal switching issue i got or does anyone know how the nexus switching algorithm works? i read that it only turns on HSPA+ when loading much data and switchs back down to UMTS / HSDPA later on, to save energy.
does it behave like this for GSM / HSDPA / UMTS transitions as well?
in generell i got like -100dB signal with my nexus here at my place. with the note i had like -70 up to like -80dB (so yeah, its really like 100-150% worse in terms of signal strength)
jordanprudent said:
As for h+ I did a little Google of this and found another xda forum post. From what I can see there is no + symbol on the nexus and everyone gets just the H symbol.
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but does it show HSPA:11 or HSPA:13 within the settings --> info --> signal info? HSPA:11 (what i get) is not HSPA+ as far as i can tell.
jordanprudent said:
The ones he phone came with and nexus revamped etc create no Lagg for me.
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well "lag" might be miss leading. the scrolling is a lot "SLOWER". when i scroll with a static wall in the back i get nearly instand feedback. using the ICS wallpaper there is a feedback gap of about 2,5 - 5 ms AND the transitions are not that smooth (looks like way less FPS, but to realize that it would meen that the FPS drop down to below 24FPS or atleast down to 30FPS)
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Generally speaking it gets rid of all issues and you can always flash back to stock if needs be?
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hmm is it possible to flash back to stock? the only way i found to flash roms manually is always using the CWM bootloader, but how to get rid of the CWM if i want to go back to stock later on?
maybe i just didn't find it and there is a way to load the 4.0.4 rom using the official bootloader (which i would perfer)
Honestly the only way for you to attempt to solve any of these issues is to root. If you are not willing then there is not a whole lot of advice anyone can give.
You can easily flash back to 100% stock if you needed to. People do all the time for warranty replacement. Some unethically, but that's a different conversation. The point is you can.
You have to decide whether or not to unlock the bootloader and root. If not, your only option is to replace it. If your willing then its already been said what you should try.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24190820
Hope you can get it worked out.
Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Galaxy Nexus.
Dakota0206 said:
Honestly the only way for you to attempt to solve any of these issues is to root.
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yeh thats not the problem. i would root for sure if i know the problems i got are solved.
i'm just trying to figure out if its a hardware bug / manufacturing error and if it makes sense to replace it.
repleaceing means like waiting 1 week till the new one arrives + it dosn't mean that the new one will not have other bugs which i've seen here in the forums (AMOLED display bugs for example)
updated to 4.0.4.
poor connectivity remains. doh.
masiminder said:
updated to 4.0.4.
poor connectivity remains. doh.
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Do you use a cellphone case?
Because with the case I use, I don't get any signal here at all ... without the case I get better signal than I ever had before in my flat.
Also you could try flashing another radio.
Maybe its a tower issue.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA
just one small insight for the op: rooting violates warranty? LOL. You don't know what you're talking about. Nope, even with locked bootloaders it's possible to root some ics versions (up to 4.0.3). Hell, you can unlock and relock the bootloader (which allows for custom roms) by using fastboot, which doesn't phone home in any way. You don't loose your warranty on a nexus phone, unless you manage to **** up the only way available to fully recover it (usb, volume rocker, power button) which is through fastboot.
change radios. your NOTE was not running ICS, and it's a SAMSUNG phone, which surely has tweaked UI/interface/radio etc. It could even be showing full strenght when it's not at full strenght, for all we know.. -70dBm NOTE, -100dBm Nexus - and you say it's 100%/150% difference? are you sure?
return the phone if you feel it's not working for you and your area of residence.
Sent from my TF201
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just one small insight for the op: rooting violates warranty? LOL. You don't know what you're talking about. Nope, even with locked bootloaders it's possible to root some ics versions (up to 4.0.3). Hell, you can unlock and relock the bootloader (which allows for custom roms) by using fastboot, which doesn't phone home in any way. You don't loose your warranty on a nexus phone, unless you manage to **** up the only way available to fully recover it (usb, volume rocker, power button) which is through fastboot.
change radios.
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yeah i found out about the fastboot method and used it. i was not aware of that option.
bk201doesntexist said:
your NOTE was not running ICS, and it's a SAMSUNG phone, which surely has tweaked UI/interface/radio etc. It could even be showing full strenght when it's not at full strenght, for all we know.. -70dBm NOTE, -100dBm Nexus - and you say it's 100%/150% difference? are you sure?
return the phone if you feel it's not working for you and your area of residence.
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thats right, but the nexus is also manufactured by samsung so they provide the drivers, don't they?
about the dB: i forgot, we're talking about dBm here so 3dB should be like 100% drop / gain.
so no, i'm not sure anymore. but as far as i remember when i check the note it had about 80dB while the nexus is around 95-105dB.
anyway, are there any better radios for the nexus t-mobile germany ATM?
i would love to try them out.
SynFox said:
Do you use a cellphone case?
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i dont have any cellphone case except a display protection. i never dropped a phone in the past 5 years so i see no point in cases.
well, searching the web for the last 4 hours i decided to send my nexus back and buy another phone.
it seems there are alot of people out there haveing poor signal. updateing to other roms or radios didnt fix their problems.
one guy even sais he had 3 galaxy nexus and very poor signal (-107dBm) compared to his razzor maxx (-80dBm) with all of the nexus'.
seems to be a hardware problem. since my desire HD sucked in terms of radio too and i really dont need a phone that's unable to call i'll send it back.
after all i know its not me (galaxy note worked like a charm - so no provider and location issue) and its not the rom / radio. after searching the web i'm very sure its not "only my device".
maybe the guys saying they got no problems got a (rare?) working manufacturing batch or are on LTE (which i'm not).
the nexus signal just seems to be poor. and i think no update's gonna change that.
so i send it back and will grap the galaxy SIII when it's released within the next weeks. till then i'll use my nokia e65, which is like 100 years old but atleast has signal.
masiminder said:
well, searching the web for the last 4 hours i decided to send my nexus back and buy another phone.
it seems there are alot of people out there haveing poor signal. updateing to other roms or radios didnt fix their problems.
one guy even sais he had 3 galaxy nexus and very poor signal (-107dBm) compared to his razzor maxx (-80dBm) with all of the nexus'.
seems to be a hardware problem. since my desire HD sucked in terms of radio too and i really dont need a phone that's unable to call i'll send it back.
after all i know its not me (galaxy note worked like a charm - so no provider and location issue) and its not the rom / radio. after searching the web i'm very sure its not "only my device".
maybe the guys saying they got no problems got a (rare?) working manufacturing batch or are on LTE (which i'm not).
the nexus signal just seems to be poor. and i think no update's gonna change that.
so i send it back and will grap the galaxy SIII when it's released within the next weeks. till then i'll use my nokia e65, which is like 100 years old but atleast has signal.
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I am on T-Mobile Germany and as said, better signal than any other phone I ever had. (iPhone, Nokia, Motorola)
UGLA4 gave me the best result so far
Hi,
I've been using JB since the version from io12 was out. Currently I use Bigxie's deodexed 4.1.1 and all is wonderful. Except one thing that is. The wifi signal is weaker than I'm used to from ICS. Especially the wifi range seems worse. Connections that I've used with ICS are now out of range. Some of my friend or family's connections are now very weak and I drop out of range very often. This goes for any JB rom/kernel I've tried.
I've tried several roms, trinity and franco kernels, dirty flashing, full wipe. I've even tried a couple of different basebands, even though I don't think they affect wifi.
So I'm wondering if other GSM GNex users are experiencing the same thing? I've seen a thread with a flashable "poor wifi fix" for the Verizon GNex, but nothing for the GSM version.
Verizon GNex wifi/gps fix:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739097
Any suggestions? Coukd a similar solution like the Verizon fix help?
Best regards,
P
Ok, allow me to explain whats going on with the "fix".
There were some folks who ported the GSM version to Verizon (myself included). However, they failed to use the correct wifi/BT firmware (I did but thats besides the point). They left in the GSM version. So that above fix is merely the bcm4330.hcd firmware and bcmhd.cal calibration file for wifi/BT from 4.0.4 for Verizon. It is not meant to be used for GSM and only applies to those who ported GSM to CDMA. Even with the fix, wifi is weak.
Verizon users currently have a newer version now, specifically for them from Google. However, the weak wifi issue still exists even for us. There are some who have strong wifi routers or are always close to them that do not see the issue, but it does exist for every JB user. Wifi is simply weaker, and BT is fairly janky.
It is a Jellybean specific problem, and I am assuming it will be fixed in time. You could try a 4.0.4 bcm4330.hcd, bcmhd.cal on Jellybean, but I doubt it will help, and it could end up hurting. I am thinking that broadcomm needs to fix these files.
Thanks for the reply and the precise info about the problem and the background for the Verizon fix. Very much appreciated.
I guess I'll have to wait and hope for an update.
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Thanks for the reply and the precise info about the problem and the background for the Verizon fix. Very much appreciated.
I guess I'll have to wait and hope for an update.
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I am right there with you.
Wifi is horrible!
WiFi does kind of blow chunks. WTF.
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WiFi does kind of blow chunks. WTF.
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The more I think about it, the more I think it can probably be resolved by tweaking the calibration file. However that is a bit beyond my abilities as I don't understand whats contained in it to know what it needs tweaking to.
wifi weakness
I'm not sure why it does this but when I am in my house about 15 feet away from my router I would notice my wifi signal dropping down to 2 bars where my other phone would stay at full strength until I got around 15 yards away.. I decided to see how far I could get away from my router before completely losing signal. I walked a total of about of 30 yards from my router to the edge of my street and stopped every time the signal decreased down to one bar(which was between every 5 or 10 yards)... every time I thought the signal was about to drop out it would return back up to 3 bars after a moment of adjusting. Once I got to my furthest point it dropped out completely and then came back to 1 bar. When I came back inside where I previously had 2 bars I then had full signal throughout the house. I tested this a couple times and it seems that it only uses what it needs. If someone could do a similar experiment to confirm this isn't specific to my router set up I would appreciate it. I also did not notice any drop off in performance in speed from 1 bar to full signal while I was within 20 yards of my router, however, I didn't run a speed test, I just used my youtube app to load a video... I will run some speed test when I get home this evening to get a solid figure on the speed difference. This may not be a bug but a feature to conserve energy to increase battery life.
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I'm not sure why it does this but when I am in my house about 15 feet away from my router I would notice my wifi signal dropping down to 2 bars where my other phone would stay at full strength until I got around 15 yards away.. I decided to see how far I could get away from my router before completely losing signal. I walked a total of about of 30 yards from my router to the edge of my street and stopped every time the signal decreased down to one bar(which was between every 5 or 10 yards)... every time I thought the signal was about to drop out it would return back up to 3 bars after a moment of adjusting. Once I got to my furthest point it dropped out completely and then came back to 1 bar. When I came back inside where I previously had 2 bars I then had full signal throughout the house. I tested this a couple times and it seems that it only uses what it needs. If someone could do a similar experiment to confirm this isn't specific to my router set up I would appreciate it. I also did not notice any drop off in performance in speed from 1 bar to full signal while I was within 20 yards of my router, however, I didn't run a speed test, I just used my youtube app to load a video... I will run some speed test when I get home this evening to get a solid figure on the speed difference. This may not be a bug but a feature to conserve energy to increase battery life.
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A good theory, but I am dropping wifi in some of my rooms. Switching to and fro like that doesn't save power
didnt people have poor performance with their wifi signal on ics? did broadcom leave everything the same of did they change/update drivers for our phones with jb.
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A good theory, but I am dropping wifi in some of my rooms. Switching to and fro like that doesn't save power
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Me too, I only need to move to the next room or so sometimes. The main problem for me is range. The range for me was better with 4.0.x.
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didnt people have poor performance with their wifi signal on ics? did broadcom leave everything the same of did they change/update drivers for our phones with jb.
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ICS wifi performance on the GNex wasn't exactly perfect for me, but it was better than what I get with JB. My router at home is giving me an okay performance and range, but the routers I normally connect to at family and friends are giving me problems since I moved on to JB.
I believe JB does come with new drivers. At least I've read that it does, in other threads.
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didnt people have poor performance with their wifi signal on ics? did broadcom leave everything the same of did they change/update drivers for our phones with jb.
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I had better performance on ICS with WiFi.
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I had better performance on ICS with WiFi.
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Same
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Wi-Fi has been fine for me, but only when using 2.4GHz—5GHz, on the other hand, is horribly broken. If you are using 5GHz, I recommend trying 2.4GHz instead—hopefully Google will have this sorted before the Galaxy Nexus II ships.
you may want to revert back to ICS to verify if the phone hardware is not a problem? otherwise for me I have used both... ICS and JB, and I don't find any difference..
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you may want to revert back to ICS to verify if the phone hardware is not a problem? otherwise for me I have used both... ICS and JB, and I don't find any difference..
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I’ve found 5GHz to be broken on both ICS and JB and this is with more than one phone.
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Wi-Fi has been fine for me, but only when using 2.4GHz—5GHz, on the other hand, is horribly broken. If you are using 5GHz, I recommend trying 2.4GHz instead—hopefully Google will have this sorted before the Galaxy Nexus II ships.
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I'll try 2.4.
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I’ve found 5GHz to be broken on both ICS and JB and this is with more than one phone.
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5 Ghz was fine for me on ICS. It works on JB too, but the range...ugh.
I'm pretty sure it's not hardware related. It's definitely related to JB. It's not a 5 GHz problem either, that's what I use at home on my d-link. Family and friends have both 5 and 2.4 GHz. I'm sure it depends on the quality of the routers also but I didn't have any real range problems with any of them before JB.
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5 Ghz was fine for me on ICS. It works on JB too, but the range...ugh.
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Same here, except my d-link at home, which is kinda okay at 5 GHz.
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I'm pretty sure it's not hardware related. It's definitely related to JB. It's not a 5 GHz problem either, that's what I use at home on my d-link. Family and friends have both 5 and 2.4 GHz. I'm sure it depends on the quality of the routers also but I didn't have any real range problems with any of them before JB.
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2.4 is pretty weak for me too.
I looked at the calibration file from ICS to JB. I don't think the difference warrants the problems seen.
From ICS to JB, these are the changes:
# 2.4G ACR
rxgaintbl100=1
# 5GHz Starting Tx Gain Index
initxidx5g=96
I'm at a loss here, but I know something is wrong for sure. I'm familiar with the low signal strength 'problem' on LTE networks as described at rootzwiki's thread entitled "This is why your Verizon Nexus signal "sucks" " I do not understand it inside and out, but I know enough to be at least 80% sure that this is not my issue. That thread describes a low signal strength, as in the dBm, but my problem is actual performance. I'm not comparing numbers (at least not on LTE networks), but results.
The problem is pretty bad, and pretty consistent. Without fail, my signal strength will be butchered, and with it data and even voice/text service will be unreliable or non existent inside any building. Not just some buildings, but any building. If I'm in a 4G area, I almost always lose the 4G, and it's switched to 3G with very poor performance (even for 3G standards). If I don't loose the 4G, the speed test results are horrid. I've had several cases where inside a building I still have 4G but the speeds might be 500-700 Kbps down/up or even worse, but when I step outside into the parking lot, 10-15 Mbps down 5-15 Mbps up. I realize structures absorb wireless signals and sometimes it can be pretty bad, but this is too much and too frequent to just be normal wireless signal degradation. It also doesn't seem to be the area because I've traveled through these areas before with my droid charge and I've never experienced issues anywhere close to this bad with my charge.
Some examples; the first time I noticed it was in the Greensboro, NC 4G area. Specifically at the Travel Centers of America about 10 miles east of the greensboro's border. When I first pulled into the truck stop (I drive a strait truck with a sleeper) I was pissed because my phone was on 3G, and I looked this area up before I came here on verizon's detailed 4G coverage map. This very truck stop was sitting in a dark maroon 4G area, NOT an extended 4G area. So I was angry, but I figured that there was an issue with the network, or the storm coming through was causing problems. Later the storm passed and I noticed (while walking back to my truck) that I was getting a strong 4G signal and good speeds, 5-10 Mbps down and 5 ish up. But as I sat back in even just the driver seat the signal strength dropped, and so did the speeds. I did a lot of tests later outside. I was performing speed tests at different locations all over the parking lot and I noticed the closer I got to the trucks, the poorer the performance. When I was inside my truck, and back in the sleeper, 4G was gone completely, taken over by a very poor 3G signal with slow speeds. I found that if I had my phone mounted on the windshield I was able to get reasonable 4G speeds, but still only a fraction of what I was able to get outside in the parking lot.
Another similar case happened in the Washington DC area at a walmart (Landover, MD). This time the 4G stuck even in the sleeper, but speeds were 2-3 Mbps down and about 700 Kbps up. While outside, however, 15 Mbps down and up.
Here I sit at another truck stop. This time, however, I'm in an extended 4G area (which of course means I have 3G) and I'm comparing my 3G signal strength to my Charge's signal strength. I know what I said earlier, but from what I understand about that "issue", gingerbread phones and earlier would give the CDMA signal strength because they couldn't read the 4G signal strength, but ICS and later can and so it displays the LTE signal strength. So wouldn't that mean that if you are in a 3G area, you can, in fact, accurately compare signal strength since they should both be displaying the CDMA signal strength? If that's the case, then what I'm getting is -100 dBm on my Galaxy Nexus and -87 dBm on my charge.
Something is most definitely wrong with my phone, but I don't know if it has anything to do with the Vicious JB stock rom I installed or not.
Vicious JellyBean 4.1 V5 is the version I installed, and I realize now that I did not install the latest (4.1.1 V1) but nonetheless I could not see it reported anywhere in the changelog, or any of the replies to the thread that there were very noticeable problems with the radio performance. I'm just at a loss and I really hope someone's reading this going "ah, I know exactly what that problem is". Although I'm never lucky enough to have a well known problem happen that there are fixes readily available for
Thanks very much for your time and help!
Bippity, boppity, bump!!
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I suggest you upgrade to the AOSP version that was released a couple of days ago. I have been running it for about 20 hours with very good results.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1797996
JB issues?
Soundfx,
I've noticed some strange data problems as well. I've only had my nexus for 3 days. The first thing I did was throw a JB ROM (actually, about 9 of them to try them all out) on the device. (Vicious was one of them) What I noticed was that pretty consistently, about 5-10 minutes after the flash, my phone would go from having 4 bars of LTE to no signal at all. My connection would drop completely. Although I didn't figure this out until the latter flashes, I did remember having connection issues when I tried going to the play store or the internet on all the ROMs. I'd have to switch of LTE, and then I'd start working again. At first I just figured that I'm in some sort of LTE dead zone or something. But it seemed strange that my connection would drop completely and I couldn't get it back for 30-60 seconds.
SO, this morning I took my device back to stock. Unrooted ICS from Verizon. And although I wasn't at home for more than a minute to do testing, it appears that my connection problems have gone away. So I'm wondering if it is a radio issue for JB roms. All that to say that I don't think your problem is just the vicious rom. If you wouldn't mind, I'd suggest you trying another ROM and seeing if you have the same issues.
I figure it could be a few things for my own issues, which could be similar to yours:
1. Toro JB roms just have radio issues. (Seems like more people would be clamoring on this forum though if that were true, and I haven't seen any other than you)
2. I have a bad piece of hardware. (Running my stock ICS rom should shake that out.)
3. I live in a verizon dead zone and will experience drops no matter what ROM I use. (Again, stock ICS should shake that out for me.)
4. Gnex has inferior radio hardware, and there is nothing to be done about it. (Doesn't seem likely.)
ALL that to say that, while I don't have an answer for you, I seem to be experiencing similar problems, and I'm trying to figure it out too.
I'll keep you updated as I hone in on a culprit of my problems. (IF I can)
JR
stickerbob said:
I suggest you upgrade to the AOSP version that was released a couple of days ago. I have been running it for about 20 hours with very good results.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1797996
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You say "the AOSP" version that was released, but what exactly does AOSP mean? I know what it stands for, Android Open Source Project, but every jelly bean rom I've seen (or most) has AOSP in it and I guess I don't grasp it's actual meaning.
The only thing I know for sure is that I want stock stock stockity stock stock! When devs build roms they tend to always have some sort of a bug or two, and I just never feel like they are stable enough. So I want as stock as I can get! Which is why I installed Vicious Stock JB.
I just really don't know though...I know the nexus apparently has radio problems anyway, but...I guess I can just try the latest roms and see what happens. Are there any radios that I can install maybe that would fix this? :\
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Soundfx,
I've noticed some strange data problems as well. I've only had my nexus for 3 days. The first thing I did was throw a JB ROM (actually, about 9 of them to try them all out) on the device. (Vicious was one of them) What I noticed was that pretty consistently, about 5-10 minutes after the flash, my phone would go from having 4 bars of LTE to no signal at all. My connection would drop completely. Although I didn't figure this out until the latter flashes, I did remember having connection issues when I tried going to the play store or the internet on all the ROMs. I'd have to switch of LTE, and then I'd start working again. At first I just figured that I'm in some sort of LTE dead zone or something. But it seemed strange that my connection would drop completely and I couldn't get it back for 30-60 seconds.
SO, this morning I took my device back to stock. Unrooted ICS from Verizon. And although I wasn't at home for more than a minute to do testing, it appears that my connection problems have gone away. So I'm wondering if it is a radio issue for JB roms. All that to say that I don't think your problem is just the vicious rom. If you wouldn't mind, I'd suggest you trying another ROM and seeing if you have the same issues.
I figure it could be a few things for my own issues, which could be similar to yours:
1. Toro JB roms just have radio issues. (Seems like more people would be clamoring on this forum though if that were true, and I haven't seen any other than you)
2. I have a bad piece of hardware. (Running my stock ICS rom should shake that out.)
3. I live in a verizon dead zone and will experience drops no matter what ROM I use. (Again, stock ICS should shake that out for me.)
4. Gnex has inferior radio hardware, and there is nothing to be done about it. (Doesn't seem likely.)
ALL that to say that, while I don't have an answer for you, I seem to be experiencing similar problems, and I'm trying to figure it out too.
I'll keep you updated as I hone in on a culprit of my problems. (IF I can)
JR
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Thank you kindly sir, and I will give a few other roms a shot just to see what I can find out and report back!
I tried flashing a few different roms; Liquid TORO Alpha 6, Vicious CM10 Toro, and Vicious JB 4.1.1 v1. All three of them as soon as the phone booted up showed the exact same poor 3G signal quality in the back sleeper while I'm in a dark maroon 4G area. Although I don't think I did a proper rom installation. They roms definitely installed, but it upgraded and installed over what I had...which I didn't realize it would do at all. I'll try doing it properly rom installation with a JB toro rom and then I'm going back to stock ICS to see what it looks like. I'm actually, right now, back at the truck stop that I originally noticed this problem. I'll post back.
I tried flashing back to stock 4.0.4 ICS build with the most recent radios, then I tried EK06 EK05 radios. It was the same across the board. No matter what rom/radios i use, the signal quality was the same. I lost service completely inside the building and in the sleeper it drops to 3G with incredibly poor signal quality :\ -100 dBm -120 dBm I'm going to try and get a new SIM card. if that doesn't solve it...then I guess it's time to look for a new phone :\
It seems like the developers are in a holding pattern until new radios are leaked. If it's that bad, there's no real harm in sticking w/ ICS until we get radios. Some really sweet things have been done by the community in the meantime.
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well I already had vicious 4.1 installed with my apps and all that stuff and it's the same across the board. So I'll be sticking with this until something pops up I guess :\ I'm still definitely going to check about getting a new SIM card; it's the only option, short of another phone, that I can try at this poing. -shrugs- :\
Hi, noticing that my 5x signal indicator will drop to the equivalent of zero bars -110 dBm 99asu. This is happening in my apartment that is known to have bad reception. My old note 3 always had problems, my gf's oneplus one on tmobile does the same thing. So I understand that my apartment isn't the best for maintaining good reception.
I did think however that me losing reception on my note 3 was due to lack of updating my phone and also being on a crappy ROM. I believed my gf's issues were just do the poor quality control of oneplus. I figured this was the issue after trying out the Moto X pure (2015) in my apartment recently, and it hasn't dropped signal like any of the phones mentioned above. So my experience with Moto X made me think that other phones were just faulty/old.
Then I got the nexus 5x to try out, and I started to experience the exact same loss of signal as the note 3 and oneplus. I've fiddled with APN settings--matched them exactly to the moto pure and so on--and flashed to newest system image, but still experienced that connection loss.
In addition to this, while driving around I noticed that the 5x was often dropping to 3g and taking a while to get back to LTE. While trying out the Moto X, I didn't notice this at all. And after comparing the cellular network signal graph in the battery section, my observations matched. The moto x had way better reception throughout the day.
My question then is, is anyone else noticing/having this issue? Are nexus phones known for having poor radios/signal? Any suggestions? Should I try returning and buying another? RMA?
I like the 5x much more than the pure (not having any battery issue), but it seems silly to keep it if its a worse functioning phone.
What build number are you on it seems like the current build is fixing this issue for people. I'm gonna bet your on MDA89E which is not the newest build.
I'm on mdb80i. I was on build you mentioned, and thought flashing newest would fix my problem but it didn't.
On another note, I tried surfing web while supposedly having no bars (~115dBm 99 asu) and websites loaded just fine. I also tried calling while supposedly had no signal but I was able to get call through. So not sure what is going on when losing bars
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What build number are you on it seems like the current build is fixing this issue for people. I'm gonna bet your on MDA89E which is not the newest build.
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Didn't see a thread covering this, so I figured I'd start one.
One issue that has plagued my Pixel 2XL is severely diminished LTE signal strength on Android 10. I first encountered this on beta 5, and again on beta 6. My signal dbm's were 10-15 less than on Pie, and the signal indicator was rarely, if ever, above 1 bar. My signal would fluctuate wildly based on location, and would rarely hold steady. Speed tests confirmed things. Extremely frustrating. It was such a problem that I eventually opted out of the beta program and rolled back to Pie before the official release of Android 10. Since then my signal strength has returned to normal and been steady and solid. I have not updated to official Android 10 yet, and keep hoping that this issue will be resolved through a monthly security patch. So far, from what I have been able to gather, this issue has not been fixed. There are several different threads covering this issue, as well as official issue tracker threads with Google:
https://support.google.com/pixelphone/thread/13566467?hl=en
https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/141578664#comment86
https://forums.androidcentral.com/g...237-low-signal-quality-after-10-update-2.html
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixe...el_3_weak_signal_on_verizon_after_android_10/
I am having this issue on my 2XL, on AT&T, however this issue persists across devices and carriers, and doesn't seem to discriminate. As with most things though, there are plenty of folks who say they are not effected by this in the least.
So my question here is this:
Has anyone noticed a decrease in signal strength on Android 10 on the Pixel 2XL?
LTE? 3G? WiFi?
Fluctuating signal? Dropped calls? Poor data speeds?
I'd really love to update to 10, and the latest December patch, but am extremely hesitant to do so, based on what I have personally experienced and read in the above threads.
Any input, opinions, personal anecdotes are welcome. Thanks in advance.
I haven't had any issues with LTE signal as you described, but I have had problems with WiFi signal regularly dropping. After some research, I found that the issue was with Android and my router which puts out a 5ghz and 2.4ghz signal - Android 10 would drop the signal when switching between the two. My solution for home was to turn off the 5ghz channel on my router and my issues with WiFi went away.
I don't use WiFi away from home frequently enough to see if this signal issue has persisted on other connections, hoping for a fix in the December security patch.
I am running Android 10, rooted with Magisk. Clean installed about two weeks ago and the issue was apparent from the get-go. Never had anything like this in Pie.
I can't say for sure on the LTE side as I never checked numbers prior to updating to A10B5, however signal strength barely shows on the indicator. Tower is 4 blocks away. My wifi is terrible and there appear many variations across Pixels. No solutions here but appears to be a widespread problem. FYI.
https://support.google.com/pixelphone/thread/13670154?hl=en
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2-xl/help/android-10-broke-wifi-t3965367
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I haven't had any issues with LTE signal as you described, but I have had problems with WiFi signal regularly dropping. After some research, I found that the issue was with Android and my router which puts out a 5ghz and 2.4ghz signal - Android 10 would drop the signal when switching between the two. My solution for home was to turn off the 5ghz channel on my router and my issues with WiFi went away.
I don't use WiFi away from home frequently enough to see if this signal issue has persisted on other connections, hoping for a fix in the December security patch.
I am running Android 10, rooted with Magisk. Clean installed about two weeks ago and the issue was apparent from the get-go. Never had anything like this in Pie.
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Last night, I received and flashed the OTA update. I went into my home route and turned on the 5ghz channel again and the WiFi issue immediately returned for me. So, sadly no fix in the December patch and at least in my experience, this is limited to 5ghz connections. For now, I've reverted by home WiFi back to 2.4ghz and it's working fine.
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UPDATE:
Last night, I received and flashed the OTA update. I went into my home route and turned on the 5ghz channel again and the WiFi issue immediately returned for me. So, sadly no fix in the December patch and at least in my experience, this is limited to 5ghz connections. For now, I've reverted by home WiFi back to 2.4ghz and it's working fine.
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Thanks for the update on the WiFi side of things. Sucks that that hasn't been fixed yet, after months of it being a known issue.
Just out of curiosity, how is your LTE signal strength on the December update? Dbm's and signal bars appear to be normal? Any dropped calls or slower than usual data speeds?
The WiFi issue sucks, but at least it can be worked around for now. There is no substituting for poor signal and connectivity though, and that is still a deal breaker for me moving forward.
Thanks in advance for any input, I appreciate it.
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Thanks for the update on the WiFi side of things. Sucks that that hasn't been fixed yet, after months of it being a known issue.
Just out of curiosity, how is your LTE signal strength on the December update? Dbm's and signal bars appear to be normal? Any dropped calls or slower than usual data speeds?
The WiFi issue sucks, but at least it can be worked around for now. There is no substituting for poor signal and connectivity though, and that is still a deal breaker for me moving forward.
Thanks in advance for any input, I appreciate it.
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If there has been a change with my LTE signal strength, I certainly don't notice it. I haven't had any dropped calls or slow data speeds.
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If there has been a change with my LTE signal strength, I certainly don't notice it. I haven't had any dropped calls or slow data speeds.
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Thanks, good to know. Not to beat a dead horse here, but in general, do you notice less signal bars on 10 than previously on Pie? On the betas, I rarely showed more than 1 bar at any given time, and dbm's were less across the board as well. Frustrating. I realize bars don't mean everything, obviously, and the only way to truly measure signal strength is by looking at the actual dbm's. Maybe something in the Android 10 code changed the way signal bars are calculated relative to dbm's?
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Thanks, good to know. Not to beat a dead horse here, but in general, do you notice less signal bars on 10 than previously on Pie? On the betas, I rarely showed more than 1 bar at any given time, and dbm's were less across the board as well. Frustrating. I realize bars don't mean everything, obviously, and the only way to truly measure signal strength is by looking at the actual dbm's. Maybe something in the Android 10 code changed the way signal bars are calculated relative to dbm's?
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No, I haven't noticed a change in bars or dbm's since the update. I live in the city and so my service signal has always been strong - no change since upgrading to 10. I should note that I didn't update to 10 until about a week or so ago and when I did, I did a clean flash and then rooted with Magisk. I have since updated to the December security patch, again with no change to my cellular signal.
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No, I haven't noticed a change in bars or dbm's since the update. I live in the city and so my service signal has always been strong - no change since upgrading to 10. I should note that I didn't update to 10 until about a week or so ago and when I did, I did a clean flash and then rooted with Magisk. I have since updated to the December security patch, again with no change to my cellular signal.
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Thanks, appreciate the responses. It's actually good to hear that things are normal on your end. Sometimes it's easy to get caught up in the complaints, and in the process not hear about those who have no issues at all. So strange how this bug seems to randomly effect people, across carriers and various Pixel devices. Some are majorly effected, some not at all. Would love to update, but it's a roll of the dice that I'm not sure I'm willing to take.
I’m wondering, why can’t/don’t you merely update to 10, try it out and see how things go for about a week, and if it’s not a good experience for you, merely roll-back using the Full Factory Pie/9 image?
In any case, I am under Verizon and haven’t noticed any lowering of network signal or performance. I do experience some need to re-initialize the wifi – but, to be fair, I had that issue in Pie – but maybe not as frequent.
Either way, many/most have a good enough positive experience that it’s simply at least worth a try; at least on a temporary basis. But, again either way, good luck and hope this helps…
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I’m wondering, why can’t/don’t you merely update to 10, try it out and see how things go for about a week, and if it’s not a good experience for you, merely roll-back using the Full Factory Pie/9 image?
In any case, I am under Verizon and haven’t noticed any lowering of network signal or performance. I do experience some need to re-initialize the wifi – but, to be fair, I had that issue in Pie – but maybe not as frequent.
Either way, many/most have a good enough positive experience that it’s simply at least worth a try; at least on a temporary basis. But, again either way, good luck and hope this helps…
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Thanks for the response, I appreciate it. I am probably one of the few Pixel owners out there who are still running completely stock and unrooted, and I also never bothered to unlock the bootloader. So needless to say, having the ability/option to flash back to the factory image for PIe, should things go sideways, would take some work. I'll probably update at some point, but I have had literally zero issues on PIe. It runs flawlessly for me, and always has, so the thought of introducing potential problems makes me a bit hesitant. Just wanted to try to see how widespread this signal issue was., that's all.