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[Q] Instant battery drops

Im getting some weird battery stuff, as well as the Android OS drain. If I restart my phone, once in a while It drops like 20-30%. i'll go from 46% to like 18%. I see the threads about slow draining, but mine seems to happen instantly sometimes (3 different times so far in a week), anyone have solutions? Got it from someone on ebay, can I still/should I RMA?

Someone posted a kernel fix in the international GSII forum, so we're either waiting for that to get ported over here or wait for samsung to release a fix. I have that same bug too. What percent r u getting on the Android OS? Mine is usually in the 60's.

Yeah I saw that thread, and I saw the 2 things causing it. Waiting for that fix I guess, hopefully it solves the big battery drops as well as the small draining. Mines pretty high, 30-50% I believe, and then cell reception takes 10-20% with LOS

That's alot better than mine. Although, I don't have that LOS problem. I'm running stock atm. Are u on a custom rom?

Running Starburst 1.5, stock was better for no LOS. But I like the customization on Starburst. Hopefully by the end of this week the kernel we be ported over.

Most likely a problem with the battery level algo and not an actual battery charge drop. It's probably showing the correct value after the reboot.

Using battery spy I was using like 12%-15% per hour, not even doing anything. Saw online that formating the SD card might help, just did, and now im using .8% per hour. The hell, something was scanning the SD card or something. Much better now, hopefully itll last 10-20 hours instead of 6 hours.
edit: so it went back up again. At .8% it will last 2 days+, but since the events keep taking the CPU, its draining it. I got it down to 4-8% by taking the SD card out. At least it will last a little longer. Cant wait for the fix, this baby will last days after.

Damn that sucks. I just formatted my card too cuz I was running out of options. Keep us updated tho.

so I think media scanner is draining, I downloaded rescan media root from android market and before I was draining at 12% per hour, but when I disable it with the app, it goes down to 5-6%. Anyone else try? Maybe thats something thats draining.

Oh btw have u tried turning off wifi? It only drained 6% after being off the charger for 9 hours. I havent touched the phone during that time span tho. Android os still in the 50s btw.
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These are my overnight stats when I was sleeping. It's usually worse when wifi is on.

manekineko said:
Most likely a problem with the battery level algo and not an actual battery charge drop. It's probably showing the correct value after the reboot.
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this is almost definitely correct. battery doesn't drop 15-20% because of reboot...the reading is wrong. Battery drivers have been bad on a few of the latest android phones. Just look at when your phone stays at 99% for the first 3 hrs of use each day...what, does it just get really inefficient in the afternoon because of food coma from lunch?

toprock23 said:
Oh btw have u tried turning off wifi? It only drained 6% after being off the charger for 9 hours. I havent touched the phone during that time span tho. Android os still in the 50s btw.
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Trying now, seems to be charging faster too. I was mainly on wifi because cell standby was really high, keep getting LOS. But maybe I wont with wifi off now, and i'll see how battery does. ill keep you updated.

Still bad. Can only wait for the patches/fixes. 8 hours doing nothing almost. Sigh.
edit: sent to the galaxy support on twitter, see how that goes.
http://twitter.com/#!/GalaxySsupport/status/124174089085652992

Hey man, I got one more tweak for u to try. I just rooted my phone w/ the latest zenomax kernel and Starburst 1.5. Download setcpu and create a profile for "screen off". Set it to 200-500mhz on demand. In theory, this should prevent 100% cpu utilization while the screen is off. I'm testing this myself atm, so I can't give u my battery stats yet.

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Hey man, I got one more tweak for u to try. I just rooted my phone w/ the latest zenomax kernel and Starburst 1.5. Download setcpu and create a profile for "screen off". Set it to 200-500mhz on demand. In theory, this should prevent 100% cpu utilization while the screen is off. I'm testing this myself atm, so I can't give u my battery stats yet.
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Think I have the v3 version and 1.5 as well. I have setcpu set to 200-400 powersave. ive tried others and same. Suspend and events/0 keeping eating at the CPU. Thanks for the suggestions though.

figured i'd chime in here. i've had days where the battery was fine and days where the battery was absolute trash. it's happened on stock, and it's happened on root. but it almost always seems to coincide with LOS. the first picture is one of several instances where i've had pretty fast drain followed up by an instant dump in charge under normal use. it's strange how after the drop, it slowly works back up then levels off and drains normally. the 2nd pic is from today. i left my phone at home on accident when i went off to work, and when i returned, i had LOS and this battery stat. you can tell where i lost signal . the last pic is from yesterday while i had the phone at work all day and light use; a nice consistent drain.

FU battery drops and FML
Ok so i read all the posts in this thread and i understand theres a issue that effects the phone from even knowing what the battery % is. i had to post these though. i was at 47% then rebooted my phone. phone boots up and yehhh! woop woop 8% now mind you if you look at the graph it shows a nice constant cerve downward but steady because i was using my phone the entire time. now after the restart/batery drop of 40% i kept using the phone constantly but its funny how it took me over a hour of screen on to go from 8% to 5% !!!!! i bet to get from 5% to 1% it will take 2 more hours for sure. you can see the graph start to flatten out like its a super battery after the 40% drop because it didnt really drop to 8% !!! normally i wouldnt care since my phone battery last just as long, it just goes down really slow from 8%-1% but at 5% it auto dims screen and wont let me use my camera for the next 2-3 hours while i knock off the remaining "4%" of battery left. fml

Get Starburst v1.6. He removed DRM processes which should lower Android OS usage and thus battery draining. Plus with the LoStKernel, I haven't had any issues with losing signal since.
Also, use Titanium backup to remove running services that you don't need. I got rid of the stock email client, digital clock, media/social hub if you don't use those. They don't take up a lot of ram, but every little bit helps.
My battery life has improved after battery calibration. I suggest you calibrate if you didn't already so your battery usage graph may be more accurate. Hope this helps.

Thanks for the tips! I was wondering how you would calibrate the battery. Is it the same as wiping battery stats from CWM?

Ughh battery drain definitely too fast.

I feel like I make a thread for each phone I go through. First Blackberries, then Droid X, now Galaxy Nexus.
I am getting pretty horrible battery drain that is definitely worse than others' Nexuses. I have gone to the extended battery now for a few days, yet in the morning, when I unplug from charger (says 98% but charged?), with brightness only a quarter of the way up from lowest, I can literally watch the percentage (battery number mod in corner) drop one-by-one each minute or a few...So if I am actually using the phone, you can imagine it drops pretty fast. Yesterday, with very very moderate use the phone was still dead within 5-6 hours. It was at the mid-80s within an hour or more. Again, with moderate use.
It is stomach-dropping watching the percentage number just go down and down. Yet my friend's Gnex using the extended battery his first day did not hit 85% yesterday until 5+ hours later. The battery stats page on mine shows nothing with high numbers except Screen and Android OS, so I assume no apps are draining it. I am rooted with unlocked BL, on bigxie's deodexed ROM with softkeys mod, battery percentage mod, and power menu mod. I have 100-something apps and many widgets but no battery draining/updating ones. Others with the same ROM report fine battery.
I believe after using the ext. battery for a couple days, it should be "conditioned" if needed at all, yet I see no improvement.
I'm getting very angry watching this drop.. For example, 40 minutes off the charger with almost NO use except for turning the screen on here and there, I am at 94% battery with Screen at 46%, Android OS at 34%, Phone Idle 11%, Cell Standby 9%, and Android System 2%.
And then 1 hr 20 min in, at 88% battery with 55% Screen, 27% Android OS, 6% Phone Idle, 6% Cell Standby.
This doesn't sound normal right? Keep in mind, those numbers are with almost no phone use..very minimal settings menus visited and one update from Market.
Jesus, literally almost every time or two I turn the screen on just to check these numbers, I see the damn battery percentage drop a number. Not even using the phone how/as much as I normally would be. This is infuriating. Luckily, it doesn't seem to drain much with the screen off.

Quit checking and wait til the bug is fixed and blood pressure stabilizes?
Crazy world, ay?

Update to 4.0.2 or 4.0.3 with an improved kernel = success.
Use the phone for 1-2 weeks to stablize battery life - mine is better now than it was when I began using it. But the kernel/rom makes a big difference.

Thanks. Any suggestions on with combo to use now? 4.0.3 preferrably I guess.
Then why does my friend on totally stock 4.0.2, non-rooted have that great battery life from the first day using the extended battery?? I'm pretty much basing mine off of his and other's who are getting ridiculously long life. I never understood how it varies SO much. We should all have the same relative to usage.

just4747 said:
Thanks. Any suggestions on with combo to use now? 4.0.3 preferrably I guess.
Then why does my friend on totally stock 4.0.2, non-rooted have that great battery life from the first day using the extended battery?? I'm pretty much basing mine off of his and other's who are getting ridiculously long life. I never understood how it varies SO much. We should all have the same relative to usage.
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No. Because no two phones are set up the same. Too many variables to say relatively same usage. For instance, when i go to bed i get 2-3 hours standby per percentage point. Not everybody is going to get that.
Crazy world, ay?

@rbiter said:
No. Because no two phones are set up the same. Too many variables to say relatively same usage. For instance, when i go to bed i get 2-3 hours standby per percentage point. Not everybody is going to get that.
Crazy world, ay?
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Maybe, but the fact that I have no other visible outstanding draining factors, and I get no 4G at home and therefore have it set to CDMA only...I should not be seeing 1% drops almost every time I turn the screen on for more than 30 seconds. Especially with an extended battery.
God forbid I want to use GPS or 4G.

More battery life threads please.

case0 said:
More battery life threads please.
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Wow, really? At first glance in all sub-forums I saw about two, if that. I have a legitimate concern, especially when my friend is getting about 4 times better life. Thanks for your help though in the device forum where this 'doesn't belong'.
..And over the course of only a few minutes of the screen being on maybe twice and sending one email, I saw it go from low 82-83 down to 77. ****ing awesome.

just4747 said:
Wow, really? At first glance in all sub-forums I saw about two, if that. I have a legitimate concern, especially when my friend is getting about 4 times better life. Thanks for your help though in the device forum where this 'doesn't belong'.
..And over the course of only a few minutes of the screen being on maybe twice and sending one email, I saw it go from low 82-83 down to 77. ****ing awesome.
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You probably have a misbehaving app. Download better battery stats from the android apps and games section here at xda and let it run for a day or so and see what processes are being used the most and what your wakelocks are, etc.
Also, find a 4.0.3 rom with a kernel that can be undervolted and try that out.
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joshnichols189 said:
You probably have a misbehaving app. Download better battery stats from the android apps and games section here at xda and let it run for a day or so and see what processes are being used the most and what your wakelocks are, etc.
Also, find a 4.0.3 rom with a kernel that can be undervolted and try that out.
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Thank you, downloading now and will check it out.

I'll admit I'm using the GSM version so my experiences may not apply but for the first few days my battery life was utter crap.
Its been MUCH improved over the last few days, I dont have the wakelock issue and with the screen off the battery drain is literally only about 3% per hour, and thats with background data on.
YES, the screen DOES use a lot of battery, it isnt really avoidable and is somewhat expected with a 720p 4.6 inch super AMOLED screen.
The one thing I can recommend doing is finding a modded kernel and undervolting that CPU - It seems they've been really rather generous providing power to the thing, I've been able to take off at least 100-150mv across the board.

Antzor said:
I'll admit I'm using the GSM version so my experiences may not apply but for the first few days my battery life was utter crap.
Its been MUCH improved over the last few days, I dont have the wakelock issue and with the screen off the battery drain is literally only about 3% per hour, and thats with background data on.
YES, the screen DOES use a lot of battery, it isnt really avoidable and is somewhat expected with a 720p 4.6 inch super AMOLED screen.
The one thing I can recommend doing is finding a modded kernel and undervolting that CPU - It seems they've been really rather generous providing power to the thing, I've been able to take off at least 100-150mv across the board.
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This - My battery on the stock battery on GSM sucked first few days, and I was really concerned I made a poor purchase. But with the screen on probably 5 or 6 hours of my work day it lives through the day and just enough to get home after that. I can charge it at work too, which I usually do. On my day off it survived 18 hours and still had ~20% battery life left on 4.0.3 AOKP/Francisco.Franco Kernel

From my experience, the battery life isn't bad. I did install the "extended" battery as soon as I bought the phone but is isn't much bigger than the stock battery. I am on stock rooted 4.02. With LTE off I use about 2% per hour in standby. With LTE on it is almost double that (3-4%/hour). I have several widgets running and gps enabled. (wifi when available) I can easily get a 16-18 hour day and have 50% remaining when I go to bed unles I sit around gaming for a couple hours.
I may try a new ROM tonight but I expect it will probably make things worse.

Im running a bone stock setup and im getting 12 -14 hours a day... normally I read posts like the one skiddingus posted and wonder why I never can achieve those readings so i feel your confusion . I do have 4g on and gps off screen is about 1/4 of the way up brightness wise

4G Battery Drain

Hey, im on Telus so i dont have any other modes I can switch to to lower the drain. Ive noticed my battery drain is HORRENDOUS
Over the past 4 hours ive dropped 60%!
Now im wondering if im just running too many apps or if my stock battery may not be holding a proper charge anymore, and wanted to compare with others to see if others are running the same amount of apps and getting better battery or what
Ive got the following on:
Trillian (IM app)
K9-mail checking 2 aps
Regular Sync (Twitter, FB, Dropbox, Google(Calendar, Gmail, Contacts)
The battery usage summary seems to lie, 35% is the screen but only 13 minutes. Yet im at 40%
Android System at 20, Cell standby 13, Phone Idle 8
While heading to work, i ran DI Radio(music streaming), and lost 20% over around 35 minutes.
Im using the Tuesday rom with it's default kernel.
Is there anything I can do for better battery, because I dont have wifi in most places, and im running 3-4 bars constantly yet the phone just drains rentelessly. Even my Mugen battery was only lasting 16 hours...

It's quite possible that it's the ROM. I used to always get 8 hours on a single charge, regardless of location or ROM. I'm running Eugene's CM7 and I'm getting 13 hours on the same typical usage.
I'm running on Telus as well, with no wifi at all.
Although I am not running all of your apps, I would still consider myself a moderate to heavy user.
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skadude66 said:
It's quite possible that it's the ROM. I used to always get 8 hours on a single charge, regardless of location or ROM. I'm running Eugene's CM7 and I'm getting 13 hours on the same typical usage.
I'm running on Telus as well, with no wifi at all.
Although I am not running all of your apps, I would still consider myself a moderate to heavy user.
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Seems rather sad that the phone can only do 8 hours on a charge. Im going to restore my juggernaut and see how that compares i guess.

Rekzer said:
Seems rather sad that the phone can only do 8 hours on a charge. Im going to restore my juggernaut and see how that compares i guess.
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Yeah, I know how you feel. Just experiment other ROMs and see if you get any changes.
How much usage would you get out of juggernaut?
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Its been a while since ive run juggernaut. But it used to only drain 10% an hour i believe on 4g. I've restored my nandroid of Jugg and will be monitoring that.

Rekzer said:
Its been a while since ive run juggernaut. But it used to only drain 10% an hour i believe on 4g. I've restored my nandroid of Jugg and will be monitoring that.
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Alright keep us updated!
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any syncing or usage of the network will take a drain. any usage.
you can always turn on airplane mode and let it sit a few hours and see the drain, that determines whether its network or a ROM/kernel drain.
But yes, using 4G has big battery cost

Battery Life
I will tell you what, I have wasted so many hours playing with different ROM's and what not to find the one with the best battery life. And I will tell you what, the DARKSIDE:IGITAL::WARFARE ROM's out do any other ROM out there. I dunno what it is that thederekjay is doing, but Samsung should get this guy on pay roll because his work is the best.

I'm at hour 8 today on Darkside Digital Warfare, and 70% free from 8am to 4:30pm. I have push corporate email, automatic brightness, friendcaster push, and a slew of accounts and it runs like a champ with amazing battery.

Make sure your phone is going into Deep Sleep as often as possible when screen is off. My phone seems to be extremely picky in regards to which charger it likes and more often than not (even had this happen on the stock charger) the phone refuses to sleep after being charged (even if only for a few seconds...).
Download CPUSpy from the market and after each charge, go to CPUSpy, press menu and Reset Totals (phone cannot enter Deep Sleep during charging so it's important you start fresh after a charge to get accurate sleep time). Turn the screen off for a minute or two and turn it back on. Press menu again and Refresh Totals. In my experience, if the phone is not sleeping at this point - Deep Sleep showing in Unused States - then it will not sleep all day and remain in 384Mhz for hours, killing the battery rather quickly. From then, if I plug the phone in a supported charger (even for a second) and disconnect, Deep Sleep resumes normally. Rebooting always fixes it too.
If, like me, a lot of people also have this problem with the stock charger as well, I bet many are dissatisfied with the battery performance... The phone is supposed to spend the majority of it's time in Deep Sleep. I get this issue with several different chargers and cables and on different ROMS / kernels (including stock... go figure).

Im pretty sure its the signal itself draining it. It uses sleep for at least 40% of the time its on. I use my phone a good amount, but its the fact that if it sits on 4g even with the screen of, its rapidly draining during this time. ive even reset timers and left it sitting for an hour and itll be in sleep but lose 8% over an hour just doing nothing. I still wanna be able to recieve notifications tho so turning off data isnt an option. I will test turning off data anyways to see if the drain stops.

The battery drain is all those persistent internet apps running. That is what you call heavy usage. Trillian and the FB app being the two biggest. Music streaming would be up there as well if you aren't in good signal area. Look at your battery stats and see what your signal strength is.

wh01sl1k360d said:
I will tell you what, I have wasted so many hours playing with different ROM's and what not to find the one with the best battery life. And I will tell you what, the DARKSIDE:IGITAL::WARFARE ROM's out do any other ROM out there. I dunno what it is that thederekjay is doing, but Samsung should get this guy on pay roll because his work is the best.
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I second this. If battery problem persist download better battery stats to see if you dont have any kernel wakelocks
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[Q] Battery drain 1% per minute is this normal?

Just picked up a used GNex and thought everything was great until i started using it. I have a regular and an extended battery both exhibiting near instantaneous battery drain til it gets down to about 70 - 60 percent and slows down a little. disabled auto rotate and GPS with brightness turned all the way down. using liquidsmooth and also reverted to stock- rooted with same results.
All in all from full charge to completely drained I get about 6 hours with light to moderate use. It takes about 6 - 7 hours to charge as well.
I knew the Gnex was a battery eater but this seems a little much.

how much screen on time do you get? i assume CDMA/lte gnex?

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how much screen on time do you get? i assume CDMA/lte gnex?
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yes, VZW phone. I don't know what you mean by screen on time, how do I check that?
Also wanted to mention that I did wipe batterys stats when flashing and with liquid the default lean kernel settings
another thing I noticed is when charging the batter goes from 100% to 99% pretty frequently.
Like I said I'm new to the GNex but this kind of battery life actual makes me want to go back to the TBolt.

smerfherder said:
yes, VZW phone. I don't know what you mean by screen on time, how do I check that?
nevermind, it shows 11s right now because i just plugged it in.
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you check your screen on time by going into settings, then battery, then tap/click on the screen. then you'll see the screen on time. since you are using 4.1 JB on LTE device, I don't think the battery life would be that good, but we need to know the screen on time to know if there is a problem or if it's normal

using it heavy for 6 hours total battery time and getting 3-4.5 hours screen on time is normal. using it lightly for 6 hours total battery time and getting 1 hour of screen on time is not normal. heck, i get great battery life, but i can kill my battery within 5 hours, but ill get 4.5 hours screen on time(gsm gnex).

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using it heavy for 6 hours total battery time and getting 3-4.5 hours screen on time is normal. using it lightly for 6 hours total battery time and getting 1 hour of screen on time is not normal. heck, i get great battery life, but i can kill my battery within 5 hours, but ill get 4.5 hours screen on time(gsm gnex).
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hate to say it but that probably answers my question. If I had to guess I would say the screen was on most of the time as it is new to me so getting things set up and such. will try some of the tips I found around these parts and report back.

flashed latest official image from Google and got nearly 13 hrs. on battery with nearly 3 hrs screen time while on 3g most of the day.
so I think it is either 4g or maybe something to do with the bootloader which was on ja003 before. IDK but reasonably happy with battery now.

CleanRom 5 battery

Hi,
This question is for anyone using the latest CleanRom on their Note II. Just wondering if your average battery drain is around 4-5%/h. I use BetteryBatteryStats. I also check the Battery section under Settings. The most battery life I have been able to get is 12 - 15 h with 1-2h screen time. At this point, the battery is at less than 10%. Is this normal ? I thought I remembered getting better life from older versions of CleanRom. I know these numbers are never achievable on any AOSP rom that I have tried. Just wanted to see what everyone's experience is with battery life. Just post any thoughts!
Thanks for your feedback! I appreciate your time!

AEiX said:
Hi,
This question is for anyone using the latest CleanRom on their Note II. Just wondering if your average battery drain is around 4-5%/h. I use BetteryBatteryStats. I also check the Battery section under Settings. The most battery life I have been able to get is 12 - 15 h with 1-2h screen time. At this point, the battery is at less than 10%. Is this normal ? I thought I remembered getting better life from older versions of CleanRom. I know these numbers are never achievable on any AOSP rom that I have tried. Just wanted to see what everyone's experience is with battery life. Just post any thoughts!
Thanks for your feedback! I appreciate your time!
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Just like anyone else, it all depends on what kernel you're on and what apps you have wakelocking. I've been using Clean 5.0 as my daily for months and the battery life lasts me throughout the day until I need to sleep at which point I plug in... but sometimes, I'm running into fast battery drain due to some apps going nuts on me or when Bluetooth is trying to link from a long distance (where the phone would heat up and drain like mad... btw this only happened to me twice in many months). After a reboot, it usually clears up and after a recharge, I'm back to 14 hours with 20% left at night. I'm not one to be anal about my battery drain if it lasts me until I sleep (because I have NEVER had a smartphone that would last me that long without plugging in... in fact, barely half the day would be when my device would need to be fed).
I'm using Perseus' latest with a few screen tweaks, no CPU or power tweaks, using Facebook constantly, Pulse, SMS/MMS, camera throughout the day, Next 3D launcher with all the fun animations running, YouTube, Pandora when driving (so my Bluetooth is on constantly)... let's just say I'm a heavy user. When my kids get a hold of my device, they run a bunch of games and drain around 10% by the time I get it back.
I am happy with the battery life on my Clean Rom 5.0/Perseus Note II. I won't fuss about it as long as it lasts longer than half the day because that is what I was used before upgrading.