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ics developement mt4g (please close)

I feel like we can do a better job and keep the moderators happy while still making progress on pics for mt4g... but let's keep it together this time..
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let's reopen by moving back to general thread see how we do.. I think the desire s port had the most working I.e. GPS etc.. we should start with a port.. a work on one at a time.. wifi is the biggest need it seems for most
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So....what is the purpose of this thread?

to figure out how to get the ball rolling in an organized way again.. I pm'd mars who ported desire s to see if we can start there again.. I don't know if he can or will use this for his port.. or if we go back to the general thread... I just think to much progress was being made to shut down..
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Galadriel7966 said:
I just think to much progress was being made to shut down..
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The mods obviously disagreed, so what makes you think starting another thread in the development section was a good idea?
The dev section is for posting actual software...ROMs, kernels, recoveries, etc. Not for discussions. That's what the General section is for.

well for starters...
WHY IS THIS IN THE DEVELOPMENT SECTION????
btw, ever think of WHY so many devs are leaving and giving up? maybe it's because people like you are spamming the dev section and the rom threads with random garbage.

saranhai said:
well for starters...
WHY IS THIS IN THE DEVELOPMENT SECTION????
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Yeah if there is no rom under development this should be moved to general. Le sigh.
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I actually thought one of the ports could start posting here... one.. but it is irrelevant.. I just heard from the mod.. a new thread is going to open from the original OP.. just cleaner..so disregard... and we wait
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i really really hate it how the ICS development ended... i just hope it will come back soon.
thanks everyone for all the your hard work

I do have an idea. IDK if you'd agree on this but heres my idea:
All developers from the Desire S, MT4G, Desire HD need to come together to work on ICS. Things would get done faster and we'd basically have the same builds but the developers would independently work on drivers and such alone unless they want to work on 3 devices completely.
I'm just saying this because then the work could get done much faster with developers pulling together. The only other option seems to create additional threads like some others have with different ports but make them completely separate. I do agree that many builds should not be posted within 1 thread. However, I do not agree we should only have 1 thread on ICS. I also agree that people shouldn't be asking the same questions over and over. We could possibly develop some kind of bug reporting policy. The devs could use our help and by us reporting the bugs and making logcats we can further help the developing along faster.

sipher26 said:
i really really hate it how the ICS development ended... i just hope it will come back soon.
thanks everyone for all the your hard work
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What happened was people couldn't wait one damn minute for a upload and couldn't read what was posted a page back. It was disrespectful. Try doing that on any other thread. It would've came if people just had patients. People have lives outside of xda. (Jobs) Hopefully next time it won't be like that. I'm gonna go on cm7 and post a port of cm9 because they are taking too damn long...get it?
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sckboy78 said:
What happened was people couldn't wait one damn minute for a upload and couldn't read what was posted a page back. It was disrespectful. Try doing that on any other thread. It would've came if people just had patients. People have lives outside of xda. (Jobs) Hopefully next time it won't be like that. I'm gonna go on cm7 and post a port of cm9 because they are taking too damn long...get it?
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Every freaking comment was about the stupid wifi issue, a person didn't need to read more than 3 posts up to know that was an issue. Some peoples kids I tell ya! Read at least the last few pages and get a.decent feel for how the rom is, and if you want a stable rom...then you probly shouldn't flash a BETA rom geesh
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like i said before...
devs are leaving the MT4G because so many people are just spamming the dev section and ROM threads with random useless crap.
JUST STOP IT GUYS!!

Jms122589 said:
Every freaking comment was about the stupid wifi issue, a person didn't need to read more than 3 posts up to know that was an issue. Some peoples kids I tell ya! Read at least the last few pages and get a.decent feel for how the rom is, and if you want a stable rom...then you probly shouldn't flash a BETA rom geesh
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I'm in agreement with everything u just said bro...and I just got a glimpse if what it feels like to be a real dev...wow...and all I did was share a port I made...ppl need to chill, show some appreciation and relax...most importantly, RELAX!
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saranhai said:
like i said before...
devs are leaving the MT4G because so many people are just spamming the dev section and ROM threads with random useless crap.
JUST STOP IT GUYS!!
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What are you doing by repeating the same ****?
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marseillesw said:
I'm in agreement with everything u just said bro...and I just got a glimpse if what it feels like to be a real dev...wow...and all I did was share a port I made...ppl need to chill, show some appreciation and relax...most importantly, RELAX!
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All I did was read the comments and wait till it was ready enough looks like the form is down unless.... does this mean no ics rom?
And can't they band a user from certain threads that the creator started to avoid spamming ?
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I'm contacting a mod,asap.
If I helped, give thanks, if you please.
........Death before dishonor........

why the thread was closed? why peoples are fighting here. Just sit relax and wait for the developers to work or otherwise port the rom yourself, well its a saying that a man is always unthankful

i hate people who whine and complain about ****....
Whiners should FIX the problem.. if they cant, they need to STFU...

TDJ thread

TDJ's Dev threads should all be visible again.
Also, for all those looking for it, here is a link to TDJ's G+ page: https://plus.google.com/110028656953160917856/posts
Please do not start any more threads on this matter - feel free to use this thread to rant, complain or whatever but any other threads will be deleted to keep the section tidy.
edit: just to be clear though, I'm not promising to answer any questions - I'm not going to comment here, it's just a replacement/substitute for the multitude of threads that were popping up on this matter.

Thank you for restoring the threads.

I'm not here to get myself in trouble and being as I am relatively new to the site I wanted to ask one question and make one comment.
Comment: Out of 104 replies, 52 people are using TDJ's ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1681221
With that being said:
Question: Is it a common practice to remove such work without notice or an explanation? I know we are all human and emotions come into play and by all means I am not questioning the actions of any mod but maybe, based on the comment above, things should be handled better in the future. Just a suggestion.

Why doesn't dark side evolution do my laundry?
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Thank you for putting his stuff back up. I for one appreciate his work (amongst many others) and appreciate him standing up for what is right when we see people doing wrong. I've seen other devs insult his work (comparing roms) and not once have I seen him stoop to their levels. I for one would like to know why this happened and is anyone else treated like this? I hope there are no agendas or favortism on this board. Punish the ones who do wrong or steal, and not the hard workers. There's my rant and I know I'm not important enough to be responded to and don't expect it. Again thanks for placing his great work back on this forum
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Why were they deleted?
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What's going on?
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It would appear that on XDA stealing is OK but calling people out for stealing is cause for removal of your work. TDJ wouldn't have been the first one to have his work or RD status removed, have you ever wondered about posters who have a very low post/thanks count yet have a intimate knowledge of XDA and the topics on which they are posting? They are the biggest game in town so they kind of have us but they aren't the only one.
I am in no way speaking for TDJ, my words are my own. Ban me if you wish, it wouldn't surprise me.

xUnreachablex said:
It would appear that on XDA stealing is OK but calling people out for stealing is cause for removal of your work. TDJ wouldn't have been the first one to have his work or RD status removed, have you ever wondered about posters who have a very low post/thanks count yet have a intimate knowledge of XDA and the topics on which they are posting? They are the biggest game in town so they kind of have us but they aren't the only one.
I am in no way speaking for TDJ, my words are my own. Ban me if you wish, it wouldn't surprise me.
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I totally agree. Who stole his rom?
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xUnreachablex said:
It would appear that on XDA stealing is OK but calling people out for stealing is cause for removal of your work. TDJ wouldn't have been the first one to have his work or RD status removed, have you ever wondered about posters who have a very low post/thanks count yet have a intimate knowledge of XDA and the topics on which they are posting? They are the biggest game in town so they kind of have us but they aren't the only one.
I am in no way speaking for TDJ, my words are my own. Ban me if you wish, it wouldn't surprise me.
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Unfortunately there is a reason people move their work to Rootzwiki and don't deal with XDA. I make no preference on any side of any matter. I know TDJ called out a so called Dev for using his work for their ROM and they seemingly did nothing before posting but not sure what other drama came out from that. I don't think anyone here would doubt TDJ's dev abilities and if the mods keep their actions of punishing the real devs and not the kangers then XDA will become a ghost town i predict.

The people who suffer most are the end users, Devs don't have to do this and put their work here they are doing XDA a favor by doing so, it seems XDA needs a Mod overhaul . This has been the most pathetic excuse for a development section in any forum that I have ever been in and its not the DEVS 8 out of 10 times.

Is TDJ gone? Dam u xda you just keep running good devs out of here!!
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It's probably best if all disputes are handled through the mods or PM. Starting a war in any devs thread is frowned upon and you know how loyal crackflashers can be. You call a dev out and the people who enjoy their work are going to rage. This is just my view on what happened.
I would have done it the same way TDJ did so I understand why it went down like it did. I'm very glad he's sticking around, he's a huge asset to our community.
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Thank you for restoring TDJ's threads... and also thank you to TDJ for all of your hard work in creating some of the best ROMS on XDA. Without TDJ's work I can safely say that I wouldn't even be posting on XDA right now... keep up the great job.
And thanks again for BETA 07... I would post in the relevant thread but I don't have permissions to do so yet

:-/ XDA has made me sad as of late.....
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FOREVER RUNNING DARKSIDE!

Why no cm10

Hey. Wondering why cymod10 isn't getting work on it? Just curious how this all works. Thanks.
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source keeps on updating daily...
Once that is stable ul get full working cm10
patience bro
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Wut???
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So there is a group or team that develops the rom(aokp, cm10), and when they put new builds out individuals pick then up and do the writing necessary to run a partocular device?
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there's no "groups or teams" we BUILD CM10\AOKP\PA all from source i work on Base rom's which is CM9\CM10\AOSP when the CM* rom's get stable enough i pass them to maxwen and he finishes them off, which gives me free time to de-stress and spend time with girlfriend and work on other projects.
for CDMA JMZtaylor builds the Base rom's which are CM9\CM10
we work together......seeing threads like this drives me up the wall

Why would it drive you up a wall? Because I'm ignorant of what y'all do? I wish i could apologize for wanting to understand (sarcasm, mind you).
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manymarius73 said:
Why would it drive you up a wall? Because I'm ignorant of what y'all do? I wish i could apologize for wanting to understand (sarcasm, mind you).
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Dude,
XDA is NOT a support site of any kind.
It is a forum for developers, yes it has grown massivley over the years, but in general most folks on here are at least kinda techie, geeky, or both. There are also many users who just want to download cool stuff. There is nothing wrong with that but devs get annoyed when "users" don't want to take the time to learn forum rules, read, or do a bit of research.
Every dev on here is a volunteer, they do what they do because they enjoy it, and like being involved in a community of like minded folk who know the devices we spend our cold hard cash on are usually capable of much more than manufacturers like to release. Yes, there are "teams" large and small but they do not get paid for this, work under deadlines, or are expected to provide any support.
I don't mean to sound too cold, but with a little reading and research you could have found out all you needed to know about the CM team, AOKP, etc AND read in Lior's dev thread that his build is UNOFFICIAL meaning not an officially supported device by the actual aokp team. Even if it were an officially supported device that would not mean timetables, support, or warranty. Seriously, do a little research.
And understand, when you joined in August what number were you? Did you watch the "you are a noob" video, I made my son watch that when he joined. There are LOTS of new people here who demand, are rude etc. I am not saying that you are necasarily one of them, but when each device can count the number of devs on two hands or less, compared to the number of registered XDA users and you can see how a dev like Lior could get upset at your lack of wanting to read.
In the future, until you have contributed to this forum please refrain from even using sarcasm with a respected dev. Read, learn, and I hope you enjoy XDA, but remeber it is a developer forum, not a noob support site.
Regards.
Edit: ahhhh, just realized I kept typing Lior, and not Lloir, my apologies Dude.
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This has gone about as far as it needs to.

What is a DEVELOPER? (Explained so that everybody will really understand)

Sorry for opening a new thread but I think this is important!
I made this thread fot several reasons:
1. I respect devs and I want everybody to respect them!
2. People have wrong ideeas of what devs are!
3. Peaple should understand to truly RESPECT the dev!
developer=dev
I saw many people not respecting devs as they should... Don't forget that our kind and generous are developing for FREE!
Stop asking for ETA's!!! You are annoying the devs!
What is NOT a dev?
A dev isn't a rom making machine!
A dev is not a geek or a forever alone! Devs have friends, family, school, jobs!
Remember that devs are developing on xda as a hobby!
I saw things like "Give me WI-FI drivers fast!"- WTF is this? An order?
Correct me if I am wrong and delete my thread if you don't like the ideea.
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The problem is some people here look at "devs" as gods when they are just normal people like you and me except they have programming skills.
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Mitko said:
The problem is some people here look at "devs" as gods when they are just normal people like you and me except they have programming skills.
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Actually...i think u were talking abt me...
Nd to give u answer...
Its a straight no...
I say that to make them happy..
After all if u do something nd u get appreciated ...i am sure it will make u happy...
I am sry bt the point u just raised was wrong
** rooting is new for me,
nd i am a noob to root....**

Created a thread for the sake of creating

menewtoroot said:
Actually...i think u were talking abt me...
Nd to give u answer...
Its a straight no...
I say that to make them happy..
After all if u do something nd u get appreciated ...i am sure it will make u happy...
I am sry bt the point u just raised was wrong
** rooting is new for me,
nd i am a noob to root....**
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There is nothing wrong with complementing someone and their work. Some people just think that being a "dev" is being jesus of computing.
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guruprasath19 said:
Created a thread for the sake of creating
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Posted for the sake of posting..
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Hit thanks if I helped...

And
Developers is HUMAN not ALIEN
Developers is Not Working for u
PLEASE RESPECT THEM
Without them we can't have a Best Custom Rom!
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AndroidProject said:
And
Developers is HUMAN not ALIEN
Developers is Not Working for u
PLEASE RESPECT THEM
Without them we can't have a Best Custom Rom!
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This is what I am trying to say!
I saw people acting like devs are full-time servents and they are not!
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Yes its true developers had also time for their friends, family and oneself.
because they aren't freaking machine from what stated above.
Me as a developer of apps (but not in android yet)
Yes I don't like some attitude of other people they just kept begging. because we aren't robots that could generate codes every time. we have emotions too

Well...m nt a dev bt was going through that section..
Nd i saw one guy posting u bricked my phone..
Nd something **** abt the creator of rom..
** rooting is new for me,
nd i am a noob to root....**

[Q] Just got a new Note II

Hi all! I'm new to this forum I'd like to ask for recommendations for ROMs to flash on my Note II.
I had a DHD before and mainly used AOKP ROMs on it, though I'd like to try touch wiz some more since it's not as much as a battery juice hog compared to SenseUI.

It all depends what you want. Do you want a samsungless rom in the sense that it is just android or would you like a samsung rom with a stock look
If you can be a little more specific i can be more specific.
Currently i am using dualnote 5.0 which is a debloated, samsung key apps featuring rom with a stock jelly bean theme
It has snote and scalender and it also look like jellybean the combonation i wanted
What combonation do you want
-looks
-battery
-speed
-nerve tingling
Hope to hear from you!
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hamzahqaisar1995 said:
It all depends what you want. Do you want a samsungless rom in the sense that it is just android or would you like a samsung rom with a stock look
If you can be a little more specific i can be more specific.
Currently i am using dualnote 5.0 which is a debloated, samsung key apps featuring rom with a stock jelly bean theme
It has snote and scalender and it also look like jellybean the combonation i wanted
What combonation do you want
-looks
-battery
-speed
-nerve tingling
Hope to hear from you!
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I think it'll be best for me to find out myself of what ROM will I be liking. Thanks a lot for the input, I appreciate it.
Maybe I'll try out a buffed/tweak version of the stock 4.2.1 ROM if there's any since I'm starting to like the Touch wiz dock

Looks like hamza got trolled. Lolz. Such fun at xda.
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plskillme said:
Hi all! I'm new to this forum I'd like to ask for recommendations for ROMs to flash on my Note II.
I had a DHD before and mainly used AOKP ROMs on it, though I'd like to try touch wiz some more since it's not as much as a battery juice hog compared to SenseUI.
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Why start a New thread on such a question that has been posted thousands of times and has a million different answers all over this forum? And then you come to a conclusion where the whole point of this thread is proven to be completely useless.
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jamesc760 said:
Looks like hamza got trolled. Lolz. Such fun at xda.
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I was not even trying to troll. Sorry to end your fun. Welcome to the internet where you thought people are not allowed to change their perspectives on things.
bushako said:
Why start a New thread on such a question that has been posted thousands of times and has a million different answers all over this forum? And then you come to a conclusion where the whole point of this thread is proven to be completely useless.
Sent from the rabbit hole.
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Why comment on a thread which has been posted a thousands of times and has a million different answers all over this forum if it has been answered over this forum? Oh! I love the irony, that's just plain genius.
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Someone please close this thread before people of the likes of these two swarm and camp here.

plskillme said:
I was not even trying to troll. Sorry to end your fun. Welcome to the internet where you thought people are not allowed to change their perspectives on things.
Why comment on a thread which has been posted a thousands of times and has a million different answers all over this forum if it has been answered over this forum? Oh! I love the irony, that's just plain genius.
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Someone please close this thread before people of the likes of these two swarm and camp here.
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Because people like you make life harder for the people of our likes. People like you talk before thinking just like this thread you opened up. Enjoy your new note 2
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