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well ive rooted my prev phone n caused it to brick n i cant think of any reasons to root dhd
app2sd - 2.2 already have them
roms - same as any app launcher in market(?)
getting 2.3 etc ealier - id rather wait fr official since i like htc sense anyway.
higher cpu - the phone is way fast enough for me... the 2.2.1 update improved the lag by alot.. i did not get any lag since update.
access to apps like screencast - maybe
removing apps that cannot be removed - i dont want to remove em
improved camera etc in roms - yet again 2.2.1 basically fixed every problem on this phone like low volume, bad camera, lag etc
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kudoboi said:
well ive rooted my prev phone n caused it to brick n i cant think of any reasons to root dhd
app2sd - 2.2 already have them
roms - same as any app launcher in market(?)
getting 2.3 etc ealier - id rather wait fr official since i like htc sense anyway.
higher cpu - the phone is way fast enough for me... the 2.2.1 update improved the lag by alot.. i did not get any lag since update.
access to apps like screencast - maybe
removing apps that cannot be removed - i dont want to remove em
improved camera etc in roms - yet again 2.2.1 basically fixed every problem on this phone like low volume, bad camera, lag etc
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
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I recently also moved from HD2 to Desire HD and also don't see the reason for rooting.
I messed around with HD2 because I didn't like WM and I wanted Android.
Now that I have Android as a native OS I also really don't see the need for rooting. I belive that official updates are always way better than the unofficial ones (this ment with all due respect to all of the chefs out there that are trying their best) because unofficial ones have testing cycle that are way smaller and so new versions with fixes tend to come out at least once in a couple of days.
Maybe I'm not seeing the whole picture. If you think I'm also wrong, please say so.
If you're happy with your phone now then by all means leave it as it is. But as long as you follow instructions to the word, you're not going to brick your device.
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I belive that official updates are always way better than the unofficial ones (this ment with all due respect to all of the chefs out there that are trying their best) because unofficial ones have testing cycle that are way smaller and so new versions with fixes tend to come out at least once in a couple of days.
Maybe I'm not seeing the whole picture. If you think I'm also wrong, please say so.
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I would have to say that the ROMs I have used (ARHD many versions and CM7 Rc1) that the testing cycle might be smaller but support is generally a lot better than with the official updates.
But in answer to your question is Rooting worth it, well that all depends on what you want from your phone tbh. If you want a customised ROM or the ability to move ALL apps in their entirety to your SD (this is a root only feature) a heavily improved battery life (in some circles) or stock android experience etc, then yea Root that bad boy and enjoy.
If however you are a standard user then it really is not worth it. I rooted mine as i wanted to eek out some extra battery and performance. It was worth it.
I'm new to rooting & flashing roms this week, had my dhd since oct last year & kept it legit until now.
Everything's gone fine for me - downgraded from official ota 2.2.1 (1.72.xxx.x) to 2.2 (1.32.xxx.x - PD98IMG.zip file) so i could root (didn't need goldcard, phone unlocked & unbranded from new)
I got a RUU just in case though.
Did the s-off & radio off thing (couldn't be any easier), put revolution rom on first, but didn't think much of it, so now i'm on CM7... loving it, but it's early days.
Still got to work out how to get the market back (google apps file needed i think).
Originally rooted so i could get my bluetooth keyboard working with my dhd, revolution made no difference, CM7 is looking promising.
kudoboi said:
well ive rooted my prev phone n caused it to brick n i cant think of any reasons to root dhd
app2sd - 2.2 already have them
roms - same as any app launcher in market(?)
getting 2.3 etc ealier - id rather wait fr official since i like htc sense anyway.
higher cpu - the phone is way fast enough for me... the 2.2.1 update improved the lag by alot.. i did not get any lag since update.
access to apps like screencast - maybe
removing apps that cannot be removed - i dont want to remove em
improved camera etc in roms - yet again 2.2.1 basically fixed every problem on this phone like low volume, bad camera, lag etc
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Hi!
Is root worth it?
Well. I can only speak for my self of course. Where I live, Google has not yet opened up for paid apps. It is possible to circumvent but, for me, the easiest solution requires root.
If I want to clarify a problem or a solution, e.g. at xda, it is nice to be able to add a screen dump. This is possible through Android SDK, but i haven't, as of yet, figured out how to do this. Anyway you need to be hooked up to a computer to do this which kind of negates the idea of posting from the phone. There's an app to do this as well but again, this requires root.
Living in a small arctic town the weather app hasn't got my location in the database. It is possible and quite easy to remedy this issue but - u guessed it - requires root.
I guess it comes down to personal preferences which, at least for me, has got a lot to do with where I live.
Can you get by without root? Good for you, best of luck etc.
I can't.
Regards Elo.
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Like it was pointed out, the main advantage are the custom ROMs or kernels. The apache 13 kernels have great performance.
If you don't plan on using them root isn't that needed though. On the other hand rooting is almost risk free with the new one click tools.
If you have to ask. Then no.
Personally, I'm not much for sense and I love to play around with different Roms, kernels, overclocking and all that.
I can only think of one thing worth rooting for if you're not going to flash, overclock and so on. And that is the fact one can remove those bloody ads with Adfree.
kudoboi said:
well ive rooted my prev phone n caused it to brick n i cant think of any reasons to root dhd
app2sd - 2.2 already have them
roms - same as any app launcher in market(?)
getting 2.3 etc ealier - id rather wait fr official since i like htc sense anyway.
higher cpu - the phone is way fast enough for me... the 2.2.1 update improved the lag by alot.. i did not get any lag since update.
access to apps like screencast - maybe
removing apps that cannot be removed - i dont want to remove em
improved camera etc in roms - yet again 2.2.1 basically fixed every problem on this phone like low volume, bad camera, lag etc
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Bottom Point: HUGE BATTERY LIFE IMPROVEMENT!!
You decide.
im in a urban area so i dont need root to unlock app market and hidden apps and paid apps.. im have 16 hrs a day n my phone is usually connected to the pc... so charging is not a problem fr me... n 2.2.1 did improve the battery by alot... i did nt touch the phone fr 7 hours and the battery only went down by 2%
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If you are pleased with your DHD with sesnse don't. But you asking therfor i think you are courious. Read about it here in XDA and the different threads, collect information and when your couriosity gets to big you know where to find the info.
I bought my first Android device - a HTC Desire Z - about 2 months ago in China and it came with a goapk ROM. I believe it included HTC Sense 2.x functionality, but I didn't want the Chinese customisations and I also wanted root access. So after a couple of weeks I rooted it using the gfree procedure and I ended up with CM7.0.
However there is some functionality missing from CM7.0 that HTC Sense provided.
• The camera app doesn't allow manual subject selection for focussing or half press and hold of shutter button to freeze light settings. A red eye reduction flash mode would also be useful.
• I can't find a map app that provides offline map viewing.
• The default music player doesn't support wma files – but I've since resolved this issue with PowerAMP.
• I’m not sure what it was, but the keyboard that came with the goapk was pretty nice and also had Chinese character OCR.
So, I'm thinking that I'd like to try an HTC ROM with Sense but still retain root access. So I have a few general questions.
What version of HTC Sense does the latest Gingerbread ROMs on shipped-roms.com use? (I’ve just downloaded RUU_Vision_Gingerbread_S_HTC_WWE_2.42.405.2_Radio_12.56.60.25_26.10.04.03_M_release_199043_signed ) Has HTC updated the shipped Desire Z ROM to Sense 3.x, or do I need to use a Virtuous Unity ROM?
Could someone briefly tell me what functional differences there are between the WWE (World Wide English), Asia and TW ROMs available at shipped-roms.com?
After having used CM7.x, is the installation procedure for an HTC shipped ROM straight forward? Anything I need to be careful about, like pre-installing a HTC bootloader or the Desire Z HBoot for example?
Can custom ROMs like Virtuous Unity be used with the HTC Sync PC application?
Thanks. Any further advice would be appreciated.
CM7 is quite buggy, I got tired of issues with GPS, wifi-calling, etc. and finally switched over to Virtuous ROMs and all of the glitches went away, they have a good sense ROM and also a good stock ROM with mild overclocking and bloatware removed called G-lite 1.03
I won't let a CM-based ROM anywhere near my phone, and most ROM's are CM7 based
and yes, all Virtuous ROMs work fine with HTC-Sync and PC communications
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CM7 is quite buggy, I got tired of issues with GPS, wifi-calling, etc. and finally switched over to Virtuous ROMs and all of the glitches went away, they have a good sense ROM and also a good stock ROM with mild overclocking and bloatware removed called G-lite 1.03
I won't let a CM-based ROM anywhere near my phone, and most ROM's are CM7 based
and yes, all Virtuous ROMs work fine with HTC-Sync and PC communications
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You just gonna bash CM7 in every thread?
OP, I'd never recommend against a ROM. I'd just advocate more for one or the other. I think if you want Sense, you're one of those people who just want Sense, and there are good options out there as far as Virtuous (and others) go. You can always try others and make ROM manager backups to switch between them too.
- As far as the Camera, that's a gripe people have (i'm not a huge camera user). Try MIUI camera, its got a big set of new features and is just an .apk you can add to AOSP ROMs.
- Google Maps lets you cache map data in a certain area. Long press on an area and you can select to download a 10mi radius of the current point. You can do this as many times as you want to cache a whole state if you'd like (it'll just take up a lot of storage room).
- I'm not sure about int'l keyboards... you'll have to look into that one. You'll probably have to install a language pack.
DON'T install a RUU or shipped ROM. that will unroot your device. You need to install a custom pre-rooted ROM, most people who want Sense like to use Virtuous. I'd also look at a few of the other options. Like I said above, you can switch around till you find what you want.
You just gonna bash CM7 in every thread?
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Yes, buggy ROMs get on my nerves, this isn't 2 weeks after the G2 was released to the public, it's more like a year or more, and a ROM ought to be mature by then, and at least do the basics without glitches. (camera, wifi calling, GPS, reception, etc.)
I am very appreciative of great work, but just like with cell phones themselves, I have no tolerance for crappy quality control (this is why I own HTC phones and not some Motorola POS)
No one ever accused me of being politically correct
WTF? said:
Yes, buggy ROMs get on my nerves, this isn't 2 weeks after the G2 was released to the public, it's more like a year or more, and a ROM ought to be mature by then, and at least do the basics without glitches. (camera, wifi calling, GPS, reception, etc.)
I am very appreciative of great work, but just like with cell phones themselves, I have no tolerance for crappy quality control (this is why I own HTC phones and not some Motorola POS)
No one ever accused me of being politically correct
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There are fixes for the "problems" that you seem to find in cm7. Changing your radio will fix ur gps, improve your signal and battery life (I get about 24 hours on a single charge). Wifi calling works fine for me, has since cm7rc1 was out. My camera is amazing, I use it to capture important moments with my children everyday (stock, miui, paper, 360, funpro... these cameras all work flawlessly for me).
I guess the problems you have are with your setup, and since your defeatist attitude has you at a brick wall, it's obvious you'll never get anywhere in the android community. If cm7 was SO buggy, why would me, my wife, my brother, my mom, 3 of my co-workers, and thousands of people around the world (all on g2/dz's) be so satisfied?
Maybe I'm biased cuz I've loved cyanogen since cm4.0.4 on the g1. I learned a lot with it back then, and I apply that knowledge when rooting/flashing/optimizing mine or anyone else's phone today. I bet you'd have complained to no end that you couldn't get a2sd working on cm4.0.4. You just need to ask politely and not troll. The answers are there.
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Thank you martonikaj,
I'll give Virtuous Unity a try.
I've also now found the modified Google Maps apps that enables caching to SD card have been posted by brut.all here and stan230 here. Any recommendation as to which of these is the best?
I'll also give the MIUI camera app a try, or possibly buy Camera ZOOM FX.
Most helpful, thank you.
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Thank you martonikaj,
I'll give Virtuous Unity a try.
I've also now found the modified Google Maps apps that enables caching to SD card have been posted by brut.all here and stan230 here. Any recommendation as to which of these is the best?
I'll also give the MIUI camera app a try, or possibly buy Camera ZOOM FX.
Most helpful, thank you.
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I wasn't aware you needed a modified Google Maps app? The stock one allows me to cache map data to my SDcard... I'm working on the latest GAPPS package , and I think Google Maps has been OTA updated probably once or twice since then.
hope2u said:
I've also now found the modified Google Maps apps that enables caching to SD card
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You don't need a modded Google Maps to cache to SD. Its a standard feature of Maps. In Maps, just go to Menu>More>Labs, and activate "Pre-cache map area". Then when you long press on the map, the address will popup, click on the address, and you will see the option to cache the map area.
Try using the rom ILWT cm7 it has a built in oc daemin so it saves battery and you have the latest features since he updates every important nightlie
So you should give it a try!
Stewie just said that!
GPS software with maps on card
If you are serious about GPS navigation, and you want to carry full maps and have lots of memory card space to spare, you can buy an app like Sygic GPS ( http://www.sygic.com/en/android ). Then you can use whatever roms you want.
There are other apps out there that do the same thing, but this is what I used to run, and I had no issues with it.
Hi guys,
I got a Desire for testing, I'm trying to make it very stable with everything working. So I have been testing the following ROMS:
Stock (2.2): Very stable, bad energy management, no voice search, ran out of internal memory fast, you cannot switch 2G/3G easily.
Stock (2.3): Good, but wifi drops (Is there a solution for this?), voice search works.
CM7 (Any version, but I think I haven't tested the new RC2): Very good and fast, but the video app is bad I cannot play 720p MP4 (With the stock one it plays fine) I don't want to pay for a videoplayer when the stock and when a SMS is not delivered it doesn't show the option "Send again" (Yes, in some places where I got the network coverage sucks, so I need that feature), no voice search.
Oxygen: No radio FM (I use that), no send again in the sms and no 720p video player, no voice search. Fast.
Ledroid: I haven't had time to create a partition (In fact I need a faster SDCard), but if you use it, does it have voice search? Can you send again failed SMS? Radio FM? 720p video playback?
Sandvol ICS 0.7: Very fast! Good looking, no FM radio, no playback for 720p videos, didn't check about voice search and send again failed SMS. Had some crashing using the camera. I hope it keeps going to the 1.0 version.
So, will I have to create my own ROM (I wish).
Please help me.
It's easy I just want a 2.3 or ICS rom with FM radio, good video playback 720p, not bloatware, send again failed SMS, etc. Stable...!
http://forum.oxygen.im/viewtopic.php?id=2365
Android 2.3 - check.
FM support - check.
720p plaback - check.
No bloatware - check.
Everything working & stable - check.
You wont find anything better than that.
Use Oxygen r2 hboot if you're S-OFF.
k3lcior said:
"Web Address"
You wont find anything better than that.
Use Oxygen r2 hboot.
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Thanks for your fast answer, I have already tested oxygen 2.3.2. Is that a new version? I don't understand well.
Will it play 720p mp4 out of the box? FM radio?
Best regards.
peikojose said:
Thanks for your fast answer, I have already tested oxygen 2.3.2. Is that a new version? I don't understand well.
Will it play 720p mp4 out of the box? FM radio?
Best regards.
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Yes to both questions.
For the longest time I have been using the ROM in my signature as my daily driver. I liked the ring lockscreen etc but:
1. 2.3 with sense 2.1 / 3.0 or hybrids of the two
Battery life, it's abysmal compared to stock gb or froyo, even leedroid was waaaaaay better. Speed is good, but there is always some lag, if you count a steamboat or two after unlocking the screen then using it the lag is minimal. Battery life though, fantastic if you don't use your phone. If you use it, epecially for calls (you know, as a phone!) you can drain it fast
2. Sense 3.5 ROMs
All the eye candy is there. Truth be told, the sense 3.5 email app, and music are pretty sweet. The new amaze camera is awesome. There is much less lag with the lock screen too. Overall though, be prepared for lags, lockups, sense restarts, reboots et al. All of the runny ROMs, and I do mean all of them run fast and smooth for a few days, then lag immensly.
3. Gingerbread "stock / old" sense 1.9 ROMs
There are a few good ones, andler, droidzone, and coolsense are a few updated ones
Battery life is great on all of them, you can actually use your phone! Storage space is a non event (I run 130 apps) on all.
After much testing, because I got tired of constanly flashing new kernels in the search for the best speed / battery life compromise with sense 2.1 ROMs, I prefer coolsense 3.0 by coolexe. This ROM is a themed "old sense (1.9)", or basically stock gingerbread with a few extras, like quick settings on the notification menu. I have been on this for 2 weeks now, no slow downs, reboots, minimal lag (same as stock gb), and has all the features you asked about. I may have to change my sig soon, I may have found my new daily driver.
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Yes to both questions.
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Thanks for your fast answer. Can you check if a SMS fail can you longpress and "Send Again"?
What about apps2sd? Is it neeed?
Does if have wifi drops like Gingerbread?
Sorry for party asking, but I'm tired of reinstalling everything and configuring everyhting after installing a new ROM!
jmitr said:
For the longest time I have been using the ROM in my signature as my daily driver. I liked the ring lockscreen etc but:
1. 2.3 with sense 2.1 / 3.0 or hybrids of the two
Battery life, it's abysmal compared to stock gb or froyo, even leedroid was waaaaaay better. Speed is good, but there is always some lag, if you count a steamboat or two after unlocking the screen then using it the lag is minimal. Battery life though, fantastic if you don't use your phone. If you use it, epecially for calls (you know, as a phone!) you can drain it fast
2. Sense 3.5 ROMs
All the eye candy is there. Truth be told, the sense 3.5 email app, and music are pretty sweet. The new amaze camera is awesome. There is much less lag with the lock screen too. Overall though, be prepared for lags, lockups, sense restarts, reboots et al. All of the runny ROMs, and I do mean all of them run fast and smooth for a few days, then lag immensly.
3. Gingerbread "stock / old" sense 1.9 ROMs
There are a few good ones, andler, droidzone, and coolsense are a few updated ones
Battery life is great on all of them, you can actually use your phone! Storage space is a non event (I run 130 apps) on all.
After much testing, because I got tired of constanly flashing new kernels in the search for the best speed / battery life compromise with sense 2.1 ROMs, I prefer coolsense 3.0 by coolexe. This ROM is a themed "old sense (1.9)", or basically stock gingerbread with a few extras, like quick settings on the notification menu. I have been on this for 2 weeks now, no slow downs, reboots, minimal lag (same as stock gb), and has all the features you asked about. I may have to change my sig soon, I may have found my new daily driver.
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Thanks for your answer!
Can you post the link for the "Coolsense 3.0 by Coolexe"?
What is your opinion about Leedroid?
peikojose said:
Thanks for your fast answer. Can you check if a SMS fail can you longpress and "Send Again"?
What about apps2sd? Is it neeed?
Does if have wifi drops like Gingerbread?
Sorry for party asking, but I'm tired of reinstalling everything and configuring everyhting after installing a new ROM!
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There are no sms issues.
About apps2sd read first post.
Never heard of it, did you tried updating radio?
Btw. i wouldnt call Sense roms "bloatware free", really.
k3lcior said:
There are no sms issues.
About apps2sd read first post.
Never heard of it, did you tried updating radio?
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There was a problem with gingebread droping wifi signal below 88 db, you can do a google search ( i cannot post links ).
I didn't try updating radio, I'm newbie still. If you have a link about that I'll appreciate it.
Best regards.
You need latest radio for GB ROM's that might be the problem with SMS and low wifi signal.
How to flash radio
Latest Radios
k3lcior said:
You need latest radio for GB ROM's that might be the problem with SMS and low wifi signal.
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Thanks for your answer.
I couldn't get here:
"5.When you are at the screen with the red triangle and the phone, plug in the usb cable"
Because I have installed revolutionary-0.4pre4
I'm open to ROM without Sense.
Edit: I'm checking and with the Stock ROM I have the latest radio "5.17.05.23". If I change the ROM, will I keep that radio?
And if i create a partition and use app2sd so I have more room, what would happen if I remove the sd card or connect the phone to the pc to transfer files?
Thanks!
Here is the link to coolsense
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1279016
Leedroid is good, but unless your comfortable tweaking on your own coolsense is more upto date.
You will need a a partioned SD card for most newer ROMs, use gparted. It is available as a bootable cd if you do not use a Linux distro.
Also, google alpha rev for mtd partions, then use fastboot manager or something similiar to quickly switch between hboots when testing ROMs.
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You need latest radio for GB ROM's that might be the problem with SMS and low wifi signal.
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I installed the rom you suggested, very good, vainilla stock GB 2.3, very light. No problem with SMS, FM Radio or Video playback, the only problem was that it seems to have the wifi problem. Under 88db it wouldn't detect wifi signal
I'm looking how to solve that to go back to that one!
Thanks
I am very happy with miui xj. Worth a try. Also, with fancy widgets you get the sense like weather and clock...
I have had my HTC One X for a while after I ditched my Sony Xperia Acro S.
I currently love the phone but is it worth it to upgrade to CyanogenMod (10)?
Or should I just wait for the official JB Update.
The reason why I am asking this question is because I have heard that when you root your phone and install a custom ROM, HTC would refuse to give OTA to those certain phones that were rooted/flashed. Is this true? or can I just root/flash without worry?
Just wanted to hear some thoughts.
Foot Note:
I know the JB update isn't out yet so we can't review it and the leaked ones aren't official but I'm just curious if its worth upgrading the CM 10.
OTA is a patch, so it can't be applied to a different ROM.
If you restore your original ROM, you will be able to receive updates. If you restore original recovery, you can install the update.
BenPope said:
OTA is a patch, so it can't be applied to a different ROM.
If you restore your original ROM, you will be able to receive updates. If you restore original recovery, you can install the update.
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Thanks for your reply. That was a typo error. I meant to say phones that were formerly rooted or flashed were not allowed to receive OTAs anymore for the stock rom but anyway, thank you.
Ooshi said:
I currently love the phone but is it worth it to upgrade to CyanogenMod (10)?
Or should I just wait for the official JB Update
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Depends really just on you. But if you are unlocked already. You can try it out and revert back as Ben said.
If you hate Sense as me, and like CM, CM10 can be your choice.
I have only few issues with CM10 but wont switch back to Stock despite them.
The issues I am still facing is:
1. flickering, despite different kernels, stock rom has this figured out better
2. WiFi also stock ROM much better, on CM it wont switch in my network to a better AP no matter what I do....
But thats about it it has many benefits for me. Some of them, that come to top of my head.
1. DPI Change to 240 and I wont have tweak the notification bar (also it has the nice color change on connect to google + percentage)
2. Updates, I love nightlies
3. Fast but so fast... no unnecessary crap
4. Multitasking much better as on Stock where its non existing
I love CM/AOKP (and all the builds based upon), but due to HTC's laziness and closed nature, the 'best & latest' drivers for the One X will always be with Sense. That is in respect to the latest kernel, camera framework, beats & audio drivers. Yeah sure HTC release their kernel sources eventually, but usually by the time they have a new kernel from them is out. I dread to think about when the community will get the 3.1 sources.
The camera is the biggest loss for me, the Sense camera, especially with the JB camera build is just far better than any CM/AOKP camera or Play Store app I've tried. To even come close we really need someone to take the camera out of CM/AOKP (or create a new app) and modify/update it solely for the One X.
When running Sense I really miss proper density settings (Sense crashes on density lower than 300), and with most ROMs I have to spend time de-bloating.
With all the hardware issues I've had with my One X at the start, HTC's retarded bootloader warranty policy, and other general unhappiness, I'm going with a Google phone next time - Best community support and openness. 3rd parties seem to only care about pushing their own software, most of which is just bad compared to AOSP. Then don't get me started on contract branded handsets, I don't know how people on here can handle getting updates soo late.
I prefer cyanogenmod ben it is true that SENSE bring many interesting feature ! :good:
I like the AOSP/CM10 look of Android, but there are issues that annoyed me and forced me to go back to sense roms. Flickering, Wifi, Battery and the most important one was Camera.
Now usually I get a sense rom and de-sense it.
Ooshi said:
Thanks for your reply. That was a typo error. I meant to say phones that were formerly rooted or flashed were not allowed to receive OTAs anymore for the stock rom but anyway, thank you.
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HTC Wouldn't do that! They provided the ways to get root, so in a sort of way they support it.
Cyan Delta App
As an aside, if you switch to Cyanogenmod 10 you can use the Cyan Delta app from the Play Store. This is brilliant if you like the nightlies as it only downloads the actual changes and not the full rom.
This app really makes life easy if you like flashing a rom daily. Saves repeatedly loading all your apps and settings, etc.
Just a thought!!
Regarding your question, I was going to wait for the official OTA Jelly Bean update, but got sick of waiting. For what it's worth, my highest benchmark on Antutu with CM10 is 12686 though when you go to submit it says 12706. (I'm unsure why Antutu gives you one score then adds a bit on?). Highest score on ICS stock Rom 12486 preliminary and 12518 final.
Cheers,
Dave
Sorry about this, it could well be obvious-
I'm used the the nexus way of thinking, where I started on pure android, so anything 'on top' of that (custom roms) would never lose anything, simply gain things. I'm getting an HTC One tomorrow (M8), which brings questions I've never had to think about, as I've always live in Google's bleeding edge of updates lane:
Now, obviously HTC runs sense which has various features, battery saving mode, blink feed etc, camera app specifically designed for duo, etc.
If I flash it so it's effectively the Play edition, does it keep any of the HTC apps? (I suppose what I',m asking is where is the line between HTC apps and HTC's "ROM"). Same goes for if I flash a custom ROM like Carbon or CM...
Also, and again sorry about this, but I don't understand how it works- if Carbon ROM (for example) is up to 4.4.4, and 4.4.4 hasn't been officially released for this HTC phone, does that just mean that the ROM developer has ported the 4.4.4 features and code to be compatible with the HTC in that ROM?
BlinkFeed, battery saving and the camera are integral parts of the ROM. They require Sense, they require a sense based ROM. They're not standalone apps. You will lose then if you don't have a sense based ROM and they cannot be added after.
Maybe there is a decent camera app for the Google Phone Experience edition.
You kind of have to choose whether you want Sense or not.
tmorterlaing said:
Sorry about this, it could well be obvious-
I'm used the the nexus way of thinking, where I started on pure android, so anything 'on top' of that (custom roms) would never lose anything, simply gain things. I'm getting an HTC One tomorrow (M8), which brings questions I've never had to think about, as I've always live in Google's bleeding edge of updates lane:
Now, obviously HTC runs sense which has various features, battery saving mode, blink feed etc, camera app specifically designed for duo, etc.
If I flash it so it's effectively the Play edition, does it keep any of the HTC apps? (I suppose what I',m asking is where is the line between HTC apps and HTC's "ROM"). Same goes for if I flash a custom ROM like Carbon or CM...
Also, and again sorry about this, but I don't understand how it works- if Carbon ROM (for example) is up to 4.4.4, and 4.4.4 hasn't been officially released for this HTC phone, does that just mean that the ROM developer has ported the 4.4.4 features and code to be compatible with the HTC in that ROM?
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Kinda following on from Ben, the Sense-based ROMs have all of HTCs proprietary apps, such as BlinkFeed and their camera app. It's what you'll see when you get.
The Google Play edition (GPe) is basically like a Nexus device - it'll have none of HTCs visual changes or apps and will use all the Google apps like a Nexus device. You do get the motion gestures to turn the screen on with a swipe, and it does still use the depth camera and boom sound but other than that it'll behave like a Nexus. Some HTC apps can be downloaded from the Play Store but not many...
I tend to float between the GPe ROM and Sense depending on my mood, I'm on Sense right now
Check out this videohttp://youtu.be/8q3gGWn6HwM. Guy goes into quite a bit of detail explaining the differences of GPE vs. Sense 6. I actually used this video as a reference when I decided to try out a GPE Rom on my M8 a few weeks back.
Sent from my vR:M8
Thanks so much all- that really simplifies it. So I guess it's best to view sense as just another ROM with it's own features- just in the same way Carbon rom has it's own battery saver modes, which I assume work a little differently again.
Next question then, the things I like from sense are the camera app and the battery saver modes- purely because theyre designed specifically for my device. Is there anything remotely similar? Is there a way of getting those APKs from sense or soemthing?
And finally, my phone has a carrier (O2) splash screen on startup- if I need to sell this in future, is there a version of the images I can get hold of or even just the latest version of sense? (As if it's come straight form the factory)- I can't seem to see how to fully factory flash this phone anywhere :s