Hello,
Recently bought S3 and am in the process of switching to Sprint from Vzw. Currently both phones are active (although my Rezound still has Gingerbread as the ICS upgrade still hasn't dropped and I don't yet want to register my phone as rooted through HTC). I've been comparing the radio signals via settings (ie NOT using bars as the measure) in different location and I'm completely confused at some of the results.
At home, I have good reception on both. The Rezound is pulling around -56 and the S3 -65. Not bad from all that I heard about potentially bad radio. But yesterday, I was in my drs office, and the Rez was pulling -65 and the S3 -104 and was freakin' roaming on data when I'm in a full, strongest area Sprint cell area. I also checked them at the hospital when I was there and had similar results although the S3 wasn't roaming at that point but the radio was still at -104...I had one bar and made a trial call to my DH and it was crystal clear...better than Vzw has ever been.
So what the heck is going on? I understand that GB and ICS have some difference in measuring the radio strength but for the radio to nearly match at home, and drop by half only 1 mile from where I live and be roaming at 2 miles from where I live is craziness. What do you think is going on? Is this an S3 problem and Sprint problem or what? My DH's S3 is acting the same way so I'm confused and at a loss.
Problem is, after only having it two days, we're both so in love with it that we can't imagine not having the S3!
Any info, guidance, etc would be uber helpful. I have to decide in the next week whether to go with Sprint or stay with Vzw which I DON'T want to do and also do an AOL on my Vzw account.
I also checked the area where it started roaming on data and there was FULL service for data in the area and no roaming area for miles around.
Personally for me. Sprint. Hated every second of that carrier.
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But this isn't about Sprint as much as it is about the S3 radio. Why the variance? is that normal? Should the radio numbers be dropping by half? Is it one of the problems that I've heard some of the S3's have with weak radios?
I have the vzw s3 and never had any such things happen to me. When I was with t-mobile on my s2 it would do tg is sort of thing all the time. Just randomly go from 4 bars to AT&T service then back to t-mobile at 1 bar.
Dunno what ur problem is though.
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I have had the same issue since I got my first, so Sprint exchanged it. The new phone is the same.
Stock I was showing a steady signal at about -103 a lot of the time, holding the phone at lower left made it worse.
With CM10 and AOKP (JB):
It's not just that the signal shows week but it jumps around too. At home I range from -90 to -220, yet I can always make a call.
Data often shows x1 then roaming then 3g (no LTE here). And as soon as it roams I show 4 bars, but it never stays long enough to measure DB.
I tried most of the other modems and didn't see any great improvement in signal.
With Team Sonic V0.0.7 and LG8 modem (ICS):
Signal is steady holding at -97 at work, which is about 2 miles from tower.
In any configuration if I get close to the tower I can see -75 but it falls of very rapidly.
No lower left effect using the LG8 modem
I looked at my old EVO 4G, it's off Sprint but still reads signal strength at -97 on CM7.2 GB).
It is possible that these anomalies involve Sprint's network, which is under total reconstruction, not just the phones. It would be useful to test both devices with an app such as CDMA Field Test, to determine if they are connecting to the same tower transmitters.
I notice odd things about the signal also. Sometimes it seems like the signal reporting gets "stuck" and the signal level doesn't change again for a while (both dbm reading and signal bars). When it's working normal, I can see the signal go up and down a little in real-time, but when it's "stuck" i can walk all around my house and it never changes. Going into the debug menu and the signal is stuck there too, both 1x and EVDO. Sometimes toggling airplane mode gets it "unstuck". Hopefully i'm not the only one seeing this. I'm updated to LG8.
I have messed with field testers, still learning what all this stuff means. It's always been good for me to have issues with computers, then I get to learn how to fix them, or at least report the errors to the right people.
I will look at towers to see how to identify them. Then compare the phones connections.
I need to learn more about asu; I think higher is better. Many times I have 1asu but now 8asu -97db.
I guess HwID is the tower name.
I show Cdma RSSI -96dBm and -15 Evdo Eclo 15 dB*10
I will play with other phones when I get home.
I don't think we are likely to be getting LTE now, we are more likely to get what ever comes next like we did with 4G. But that would be great so let's hope it clears up one day and I have LTE to boot!
Thanks!
No your not alone, I have been seeing the same strange stuff, I guess there aren't many of us though or it would be on the news. Still there have been very few times I have not been able to use the phone. But it acts like I am in the mountains when I am only miles from the tower, I don't expect it to work well then there really is low signal. But I am half convinced that it's a reporting problem.
Sprint is currently using the 1900 mHz band, Verizon uses 700 and 800 mHz I think. In general, the higher the frequency the worse the building penetration. So, if you get deep into a building with lots of metal and concrete Sprint will definitely fade first. Over the long term their Network upgrades will use the re-purposed Nextel 800 mHz freqs to improve building penetration but for now things kind of suck in big office buildings.
Of course, they may be doing maintenance on the tower near your drs office.
Also, many large buildings will actually add cell phone repeaters but they don't always cover the Sprint 1900 band.
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I guess HwID is the tower name.
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No, I don't know what that is, but there actually not a "tower name" in CDMA. Rather there is a set of IDs mapped to each sector radio on a tower covering part of the angular pie around it.
Typically there are three sectors per tower, each with its own Base Station. There is a System ID (SID), a Network ID (NID), and a Base Station ID.
Under the Debug menu of the GS3, these IDs are listed on the 1X Engineering Protocol screen. EDIT: Or you can just install the third-party app CDMA Field Test to harvest that data. It also will produce a log of the BSIDs with signal strength, etc.
Sweet, I will play with this all later!
Thanks!
Two cool apps to figure out what tower and SID you are on are Antennas and OpenSignal, both in the Play store for free. Just don't leave them running or they will kill your battery.
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Two cool apps to figure out what tower and SID you are on are Antennas and OpenSignal, both in the Play store for free. Just don't leave them running or they will kill your battery.
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I've never tried Antennas, but I know that Open Signal Maps methodology for plotting tower locations is very flaky. It is based on triangulating very rough crowdsourced data harvested by users with rough estimates of signal strength. Even the developer's website warns about inaccuracy. From the Google Play Store description of Antennas, it is trying something similar. So beware of this imputed mapping voodoo.
Trying to map tower sites from the coordinates that the tower transmitters broadcast is a whole different story, and has its own complexity. It is very accurate for some tower sites, but for some others the squawked coordinates are offset a large distance away per sector. I have always been able to discern my real tower sites precisley from this data, with some analysis and surveying, but only because I have a Rosetta Stone: A map of the actual Sprint towers available at S4GRU.com.
Note that none of these methods will map an LTE tower directly. These are CDMA tools.
Also, I wouldn't install Antennas myself (or some other apps such as Netmonitor) because I don't trust their intrusive permissions, but some folks don't care as much about protecting their privacy as I do.
Open Signal's on-screen reporting of the Base Station IDs themselves, which just come from the Android telephony API, is probably okay. But I can get that from CDMA Field Test, which also has better logging functionality and a safer permissions profile.
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I notice odd things about the signal also. Sometimes it seems like the signal reporting gets "stuck" and the signal level doesn't change again for a while (both dbm reading and signal bars). When it's working normal, I can see the signal go up and down a little in real-time, but when it's "stuck" i can walk all around my house and it never changes. Going into the debug menu and the signal is stuck there too, both 1x and EVDO. Sometimes toggling airplane mode gets it "unstuck". Hopefully i'm not the only one seeing this. I'm updated to LG8.
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After playing around some, I can definitely confirm there is some sort of bug that's causing the signal reading to get "stuck" and stop updating. Just sat here with a -84 dbm signal for a couple hours, never budged. As soon as i toggled airplane mode, the signal dropped down and now I see it fluctuating a little as I move the phone around in my house. Prior to toggling airplane mode, the signal level didn't budge no matter what I did. Can anyone else confirm this exact behavior? I'm running stock LG8 rooted.
I looked at the signal on my old EVO using CDMA Field Test and can confirm that both phones are using the same cell and reporting the same signal strength. If I am reading the EvDo signal data correctly the S3 is pulling a much stronger data signal.
Then I tried to setup my wife's old stock EVO to bring to work and it would FC when you tried to bring up the dialog on CDMA Field test, but the notification part was showing the same signal. Then I checked for updates and low and behold there was one. After the update that phone dropped to -102.
I hope I will still be able to root that EVO after the update, I have plans for it that don't include the stock ROM.
I also looked at information in the debug menu; I could see the same basic signal strength there but I could also observe the effect of holding the phone by it's lower left, a drop of of about 5 db, hold from the top and back up, very repeatable. I have to try one of those foolish stick on antenna boosters to see if it would help carry signal around my hand. In addition to building penetration I wonder is the switch to 800mhz might improve this.
Not to change subjects but so far I'm seeing a huge reduction in coverage from my old Evo 4G to my new SG3. I'm now testing a replacement SG3 and I'm done with Sprint if this reduction holds true.
I was with the Evo and I live in a fringe coverage area I guess and the loss of coverage with the SG3 puts me out of usable phone coverage at work or even on the road. Technical support offered a femtocell (free?) to resolve issues which I declined for now.
Many others finding a reduced coverage?
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Not to change subjects but so far I'm seeing a huge reduction in coverage from my old Evo 4G to my new SG3. I'm now testing a replacement SG3 and I'm done with Sprint if this reduction holds true.
I was with the Evo and I live in a fringe coverage area I guess and the loss of coverage with the SG3 puts me out of usable phone coverage at work or even on the road. Technical support offered a femtocell (free?) to resolve issues which I declined for now.
Many others finding a reduced coverage?
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same problems on femto, seems to have hold solid 3g connection all day today though. Sprint doing massive network overhaul, prolly causing alot of connectivity issues. I have posted numerous threads thinking it was s3 radio, when in reality I believe it to be Sprint. Not 1 loss of connection to Airvana today. The problem for me has only plagued the data connection and not voice.
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feel sorry for you guys who suffer from bad speeds
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for the hell of it i just did a speedtest on my Inc2 and these were the results:
Ping - 219ms
Download Speed - 0.29 Mbps
Upload Speed - 0.26 Mbps
my phone is currently showing 3 bars.
when i had the Thunderbolt it was showing like 7 Mbps DL & 2 Mbps UL in this area(without 4G).
does anyone else have crap speeds to?
You are comparing a 3G phone (Inc2) to a 4G phone (Thunderbolt)... Ofcourse its going to be slower...
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he said without 4G... should be the same.
I find it highly suspect that a 3G connection was generating 7mbit. The maximum burst rate (meaning: not streaming rate) is 3mbit for EVDO Rev.A. Both the Thunderbolt and the Incredible 2 have 3G radios using Rev.A, not Rev.B.
I've noticed sometimes the connectivity indicator has a delayed update and I can be connected to 3G before the icon changes from 1x to 3G coming out of the parking garage at my office (I can tell because streams that don't work on 1x would start up fine).
I've been able to get over 1mbit consistently on my Inc2, and have been able to exceed 2mbit in some areas.
voxigenboy said:
for the hell of it i just did a speedtest on my Inc2 and these were the results:
Ping - 219ms
Download Speed - 0.29 Mbps
Upload Speed - 0.26 Mbps
my phone is currently showing 3 bars.
when i had the Thunderbolt it was showing like 7 Mbps DL & 2 Mbps UL in this area(without 4G).
does anyone else have crap speeds to?
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yea... mine has been annoying me too. I always seem to get a higher upload than I do download speed.
This is after 4 tries back to back, all of them upload speed was higher.
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Even though Tmobile sucks when it comes to coverage area, I kind of miss the 3g speeds I had with them. My Vibrant would hit 5 mbps constantly
Just used the same SpeedTest.net app, after three back to back tries:
Down: 1742, 1192, 1894 kbps
Up: 589, 675, 543 kbps
Ping: 185, 140, 220 ms
Full bars in northern NJ
Full bars
signal around -71 dBm
Ping: 211ms
Download: 884kbps
Upload: 699kbps
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yea... mine has been annoying me too. I always seem to get a higher upload than I do download speed.
This is after 4 tries back to back, all of them upload speed was higher.
Houston, Tx by the way
Even though Tmobile sucks when it comes to coverage area, I kind of miss the 3g speeds I had with them. My Vibrant would hit 5 mbps constantly
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what rom are you on?
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what rom are you on?
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Stock rooted Gingersense, I took a screenshot back at my desk where I have no bars but was outside when I ran the test.
Had full bars and i'm on the new radio.
You need to turn on Roaming I know it doesn't make any sense
Wireless & Networks - Mobile Networks - Data Roaming Checked & CDMA Options - SYS select automatic. There I bet it's fixed.
I live in Philly across from a major hospital with thousands of people inside.
I have 3 bars at my house usually. When I first got my OG Droid it was faster than my DSL at 2200k. Then after I guess more people got smartphones it got slower and slower.
I was getting max 200k oftentimes 80k at my house since Fall '10. At work it is much better around 1200k stable but at 5pm at work used to kick me off the network. No biggie right I have wifi at home. Well it is a pain if you take a walk outside and there is a dead zone around your house.
So I decided to try a friends Sprint phone. SAME EXACT signal readings same speed. Got an Inc 2 finally I thought my droid was crap. Same thing with new phone.
Then I started trying everything. Turned on Roaming as noted above bingo!
I have a feeling Sprint / Verizon towers are used jointly? Like you need roaming for things to work properly in downtown philly. I don't know but I don't loose connection anymore whenever I have bars showing. Where in areas that there are a large number of people I had problems previously at peak hours. Now everything is stable now.
It doesn't make any sense to me at all. It is turned off by default on all phones?? But the difference is like night and day. I mean I know Verizon/Sprint share networks but that should only be in the boonies? I would love an answer. Just don't go overseas with that enabled.
i am satisfied with my inc2 data speeds. i put my inc2 next to an evo 4g (running in 3g mode because there is no 4g in my area)...and the inc2 loaded all the websites i tested quicker than the evo.
the inc2 was showing 1 to 2 bars, the evo showing full bars... i would click on a link at the same time on both phones and inc2 won everytime.
I average a MB up and down, zero complains. Running 2.3.3 (recent upgrade).
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I used to get atleast 1MB with 3+ bars on stock froyo before S-OFF, but after I installed CM7 Beta 1 I'm getting lower bars than I did before, is that happening with anyone else, or is it one of those things you just randomly notice?
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I used to get atleast 1MB with 3+ bars on stock froyo before S-OFF, but after I installed CM7 Beta 1 I'm getting lower bars than I did before, is that happening with anyone else, or is it one of those things you just randomly notice?
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Don't look st the bars. They are set to show so many based on signal and that changes from Rom to Rom (why a dx can show 4 bars but I have 2) go to settings about phone and look at your signal strength.
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Yianaki said:
Wireless & Networks - Mobile Networks - Data Roaming Checked & CDMA Options - SYS select automatic. There I bet it's fixed.
I live in Philly across from a major hospital with thousands of people inside.
I have 3 bars at my house usually. When I first got my OG Droid it was faster than my DSL at 2200k. Then after I guess more people got smartphones it got slower and slower.
I was getting max 200k oftentimes 80k at my house since Fall '10. At work it is much better around 1200k stable but at 5pm at work used to kick me off the network. No biggie right I have wifi at home. Well it is a pain if you take a walk outside and there is a dead zone around your house.
So I decided to try a friends Sprint phone. SAME EXACT signal readings same speed. Got an Inc 2 finally I thought my droid was crap. Same thing with new phone.
Then I started trying everything. Turned on Roaming as noted above bingo!
I have a feeling Sprint / Verizon towers are used jointly? Like you need roaming for things to work properly in downtown philly. I don't know but I don't loose connection anymore whenever I have bars showing. Where in areas that there are a large number of people I had problems previously at peak hours. Now everything is stable now.
It doesn't make any sense to me at all. It is turned off by default on all phones?? But the difference is like night and day. I mean I know Verizon/Sprint share networks but that should only be in the boonies? I would love an answer. Just don't go overseas with that enabled.
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if I enable roaming though it gives me a warning about extra charges. is that true?
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if I enable roaming though it gives me a warning about extra charges. is that true?
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well yes, if you're roaming.
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if I enable roaming though it gives me a warning about extra charges. is that true?
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Verizon has a roaming agreement with sprint. I think it would only come into play overseas. In Europe that setting could get you in to trouble.
Had Roaming on from NY to SC not a peep from Verizon billing.
It's much faster right less data drops too.
Yianaki said:
Verizon has a roaming agreement with sprint. I think it would only come into play overseas. In Europe that setting could get you in to trouble.
Had Roaming on from NY to SC not a peep from Verizon billing.
It's much faster right less data drops too.
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It's true
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Yianaki said:
Wireless & Networks - Mobile Networks - Data Roaming Checked & CDMA Options - SYS select automatic. There I bet it's fixed.
I live in Philly across from a major hospital with thousands of people inside.
I have 3 bars at my house usually. When I first got my OG Droid it was faster than my DSL at 2200k. Then after I guess more people got smartphones it got slower and slower.
I was getting max 200k oftentimes 80k at my house since Fall '10. At work it is much better around 1200k stable but at 5pm at work used to kick me off the network. No biggie right I have wifi at home. Well it is a pain if you take a walk outside and there is a dead zone around your house.
So I decided to try a friends Sprint phone. SAME EXACT signal readings same speed. Got an Inc 2 finally I thought my droid was crap. Same thing with new phone.
Then I started trying everything. Turned on Roaming as noted above bingo!
I have a feeling Sprint / Verizon towers are used jointly? Like you need roaming for things to work properly in downtown philly. I don't know but I don't loose connection anymore whenever I have bars showing. Where in areas that there are a large number of people I had problems previously at peak hours. Now everything is stable now.
It doesn't make any sense to me at all. It is turned off by default on all phones?? But the difference is like night and day. I mean I know Verizon/Sprint share networks but that should only be in the boonies? I would love an answer. Just don't go overseas with that enabled.
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It is often the case that providers will share towers. Many communities hate the sight of towers in their area (they're ugly...yes, this really does happen) so they are forced to keep them to a minimum. They share towers but not necessarily radio equipment, so you may not be necessarily be running through Sprint on a Sprint tower.
Not terrible. Houston
I am wanting to make sure that these are the general speeds everyone else is getting with their E4GT. I noticed that it generally takes so much longer when trying to do anything with the an application that uses the data connection.
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This is generally consistent for my area, and I am wondering if it is a malfunctioning tower, or what. 4G Speeds are consistently great, when I get a 4G Signal (which isn't at my house).
As far as battery life goes, I literally received 6 hours of usage on a full charge yesterday. I had flashed my phone thursday night to EL13, and I have been EL13 before and was experiencing some pretty good usage.
I am wondering if I should reflash again, and start from scratch all over again. I have calibrated the battery by letting it die off, then charging it to 100, didn't seem to help.
Well i can say this. It looks like in general you are in weak signal areas most of the time. Weak signals from tours and terrible battery life absolutely go hand in hand. See it works like this. The weaker the signal the more power your phone puts out in order to increase the strength of the signal. With a great signal and not touching my phone it could sleep for 4-7 days before running out of battery. How ever at my old work place where i had a terrible signal in just 5-6 hours of my phone in sleep mode i could easilly go from. 100% charge to 30%. A bad signal will drain your battery faster than almost anything you could otherwise do on your phone except maybe recording HD video. Hooe this helps you. Feel free to ask a question via pm if i was confusing at all.
EDIT- Sprint is known for giving away free Air Wave's to people to boost signal at your house which should increase your battery life dramatically. Also there could be a problem keeping your phone from going into a deep sleep which also could eat your battery alive also. Some times its comonly a app that you installed that could cause. Your phone not to go into a deep sleep. If you have the bad luck of having a combo of both of these problems your phone battery wouldnt stand a chance sadly
In the first picture, regarding speedtest, I would generally agree. I just took that at my house literally 20 minutes before posting.
But the other pictures, have 4 to 5 bars. Assuming that amount of bars is relative to signal, wouldn't that indicate that I have a pretty good signal?
Could be work on your local tower too. Call *2 and see if there is any reported outage as well.
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As gho stated there may be an outage or there are working on the towers. As far as battery life i suffered from it. Now battery life seems better once i downloaded juice defender and ram manager
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My speeds are creeping up... I use to get 3.x on 3G where I live.
Now at work, its a different story... Horrible.
Battery life is great, but the bad signal theory mentioned can be a problem in areas.
Ho-lee-crap does a low signal area suck your battery dry. I did some x-mas shopping (moar like browsing) in North Hampton. I don't really ever go there except around x-mas time to bar hop and pretend to x-mas shop with some friends....and holy crap, the Sprint signal sucked there...and Verizon signal even seemed to suck there. I could barely even roam. Got the "absolutely no signal" circle, feared it was LOS coming back from the ancient past, but as soon as we left the bar I was lucky enough to roam with 0 bars.
I have been getting 24-38 hours (estimated) battery life lately. (Assuming that I would have a similar usage pattern the next day.) I charge at night at roughly 35-50% and take it off the charger at 4am before work. Typically no charging all day.
So I knew I would be out all day so I charged it up at work. Left at 12pm at 100%, min200, max200, conservative governor. Twiddled a little on the ride...got there around 1ish...left around 4ish. Took a few pictures. Didn't do a go damned thing with data, that's for sure. I was at 20% the next I looked.
Like whoa.
I do have an airave, however, I had turned it off as I was wanting to do some experimental testing with our home network. Was wanting to eliminate that as a cause of the problem.
Seems like I have fixed the problem since then, so I will be turning it back on.
But I am concerned by this, because well, while I can live with a phone that lasts a day in a bad signal area, 5 hours for me is beyond ridiculous, even my HTC Hero would last longer in a low/non-signal area. That is my big concern.
What are other people averaging in their speedtest.net apps for this phone?
Try turning off the proxies and see if that helps you. (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1283229) it maybe the proxies in your area are particularly bad.
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I do have an airave, however, I had turned it off as I was wanting to do some experimental testing with our home network. Was wanting to eliminate that as a cause of the problem.
Seems like I have fixed the problem since then, so I will be turning it back on.
But I am concerned by this, because well, while I can live with a phone that lasts a day in a bad signal area, 5 hours for me is beyond ridiculous, even my HTC Hero would last longer in a low/non-signal area. That is my big concern.
What are other people averaging in their speedtest.net apps for this phone?
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3G is wildly unreliable for me. Most times I'll get miserable speeds like in the first shot and then sometimes I'll decent speeds like in the second screenshot.
4G is okay although I should note that I had to go to my yard to get signal because despite the fact that I live in a strong "in-building" 4G signal area, I can't get signal inside my place anywhere.
:doh:
I haven't had to mess with the airave in so long, that I forgot what port it has to be plugged into.
I have it setup so that it goes:
Modem > Router > Airave
Does it need to be plugged into WAN, LAN1, LAN2. Obviously it shouldn't be plugged into WAN, but, I am not sure if the WAN port automatically falls over to a LAN Port if recognized as such.
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Try turning off the proxies and see if that helps you. (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1283229) it maybe the proxies in your area are particularly bad.
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This didn't really help. It actually made my problems much worse at my house.
Thats surprising air wave insanely increases 3G speed. Here are my speeds on 3G
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Sprint is the worst of the big four U.S. carriers as far as network goes. Their 3G speeds are slower than 1990's dial up modems. And WiMax 4G is so spotty and hard to hold it seems more like a gimmick, than actually something meant to be used regularly.
ATT, T-Mobile, and Verizon 3G speeds are easily ten times faster. Sprint's 3G feels like it is stuck on 1x or Edge all the time
Now the Epic 4G Touch is an awesome device itself, I love this phone, best smartphone I ever owned. But Sprint just sucks, not in the same league as Verizon or ATT.
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Thats surprising air wave insanely increases 3G speed. Here are my speeds on 3G
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As I mentioned, I didn't have it plugged in as I was doing testing on my network.
However, I need some confirmation as to what LAN/WAN port to plug it into behind a router. As I have forgotten, and regardless of what port I plug it into, the Airave still fails to give me a confirmed status check (by dialing *99).
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As I mentioned, I didn't have it plugged in as I was doing testing on my network.
However, I need some confirmation as to what LAN/WAN port to plug it into behind a router. As I have forgotten, and regardless of what port I plug it into, the Airave still fails to give me a confirmed status check (by dialing *99).
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WAN Port. Mine Goes Modem -> Router -> WAN Port on Airave (I have the "Airvana", which is the 2nd generation of this device).
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Compared to Verisons 1.5Mb/sec - 2.5Mb/sec 3g my .8Mb/sec - 1.2Mb/sec 3g on. Sprint seemed slow to me. But after seing some of you guys that are experiencing .1 - .3Mb/sec i feel lucky to be clearing 1Mb/sec some times. I cant beleive you guys stick around getting 150kps. I would havr bailed a long time ago with those speeds.
bars dont indicate data signal strength. it indicates voice signal strength. you can have no bars and still get 3g, or all bars and no 3g.
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Sprint is the worst of the big four U.S. carriers as far as network goes. Their 3G speeds are slower than 1990's dial up modems. And WiMax 4G is so spotty and hard to hold it seems more like a gimmick, than actually something meant to be used regularly.
ATT, T-Mobile, and Verizon 3G speeds are easily ten times faster. Sprint's 3G feels like it is stuck on 1x or Edge all the time
Now the Epic 4G Touch is an awesome device itself, I love this phone, best smartphone I ever owned. But Sprint just sucks, not in the same league as Verizon or ATT.
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Do you remember how slow dialup was? The majority of us beat that quite significantly. Also once I changed my proxies (shame it didn't work here) Sprint is on par with Verizon 3g here
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Sprint sucks. At my house I'm lucky if I get 100kbps. But if I drive 5 miles I'm next to a good tower and getting 1400kbps during peak hours.
I keep my phone on wifi as much as possible and use verizon towers, this combo with the cost I'm paying is worth it to me.
Check out 3G improvements being worked on in your area: https://network.sprint.com/
Received my GSM Nexus from the Google Play store last week and have noticed thus far that it seems I am receiving fairly low signal at home and at work. I compared the signal to my wife's iPhone 3GS and it was around 5 to 6 dBm less on my Nexus. My signal at home has never been that great and I just started a new job in a different part of town so I can't really compare definitively but it just strikes me as odd. I haven't taken the phone out much because I'm waiting for my case.
Try flashing a new radio.
only 5 or 6 dBm lower? I would write home about it. The Galaxy Nexus has never had the strongest radios, but as long as your speeds are fine and you're not dropping calls I wouldn't worry about it.
5-6dBm isn't a large difference. But play around with keeping your hand away from the bottom left corner of the phone, that's the antenna. Its pretty sensitive to the hand.
Similar problem for me.
I was constantly going out of service every 3 or so minutes and one morning it just wouldn't work at all. Google support had me reset to factory, sent me down to T-Mobile to get a replacement SIM and then transferred me to Samsung Support. Sammy Scriptreader wanted me to buy a new one and I would be credited back when they looked at my returned one which is really unreasonable. However, they did ask me if I had done a factory reset after I got the new SIM and what do you know but it started behaving.
Now I'm not sure what the problem was but it seems to have been resolved. Here's the list of things I did along the way. The selection of network operator came from me remembering the reset network option on my iPhone (see, it is good for something).
Factory Reset
Got a new SIM
Factory Reset
Manually selected T-Mobile as Network Operator
Factory Reset
The new SIM is one of the new 4G MicroSIMs TMO is now using.
Well as soon as I stepped outside of the building at work and all the way home I had a consistent three to four bar signal indicator. I reckon that this is an issue with the European radio not preferring the 850MHz carrier and therefore selecting a higher frequency that attenuates more easily indoors. I actually fired my Microcell back up at home to deal with the coverage issue at home for the time being. Will have to get around to messing with flashing other radios one of these days.
Just to follow up I brought my Atrix 4G with me to work today to compare signal reception with my Galaxy Nexus. In using the same AT&T SIM and taking a measurement every minute I found the following:
Over a five minute period the Galaxy Nexus averaged -102.6 dBm and 50% (2 of 4) bars.
Over a five minute period the Atrix 4G averaged -98.4 dBm and 60% (3 of 5) bars.
So the Galaxy Nexus, using the stock baseband, definitely receives a lower signal. From my years working at a cable company I know that a 3 dB drop in signal is a 50% reduction in power, though I don't know what the ideal signal range is for GSM so I don't know how big of a deal it is at this point.
Same experience on AT&T in south FL. I also have an unlocked Note and the signal is much better, although I'm sure the antenna is much larger too.
I am getting -95dbm, Google Play Nexus on Att between Western and Upstate NY. The tower is right down the street from me though. Samsung isn't know for their "excellent" radios, but this device has been great for me so far. No dropped or missed calls, great reception, fast data speeds and gps lock.
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Just to follow up I brought my Atrix 4G with me to work today to compare signal reception with my Galaxy Nexus. In using the same AT&T SIM and taking a measurement every minute I found the following:
Over a five minute period the Galaxy Nexus averaged -102.6 dBm and 50% (2 of 4) bars.
Over a five minute period the Atrix 4G averaged -98.4 dBm and 60% (3 of 5) bars.
So the Galaxy Nexus, using the stock baseband, definitely receives a lower signal. From my years working at a cable company I know that a 3 dB drop in signal is a 50% reduction in power, though I don't know what the ideal signal range is for GSM so I don't know how big of a deal it is at this point.
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It could be that the carrier controlled Atrix signal is a little inflated. I'd say if you're getting good speeds it's probably nothing to worry about.
My Gnex has been an absolute dream on T-Mo.
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It could be that the carrier controlled Atrix signal is a little inflated. I'd say if you're getting good speeds it's probably nothing to worry about.
My Gnex has been an absolute dream on T-Mo.
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I was already assuming that the bars could easily be inflated but I doubt the actual signal level could be. Obviously the Atrix's radio is tailored around AT&T's bands so it came as no surprise that it fared better.
I'm getting -75dbm in downtown Minneapolis, phone has been awesome
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Right, look, I'm not trying to compare random signal strengths across the nation. I'm just saying that it seems that compared to another device the Galaxy Nexus receives a signal that is 3 dB to 6 dB lower at times. That's a 50% to 75% decrease in power, which, in fringe areas like my home and new workplace, causes issues. My Galaxy Nexus gets decent signal elsewhere; -70s while stopped in traffic on the freeway, -80s while shopping at Target, -60s at home with the MicroCell cranking.
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5-6dBm isn't a large difference. But play around with keeping your hand away from the bottom left corner of the phone, that's the antenna. Its pretty sensitive to the hand.
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So I need to hold the phone the way L does?
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dru858 said:
Just to follow up I brought my Atrix 4G with me to work today to compare signal reception with my Galaxy Nexus. In using the same AT&T SIM and taking a measurement every minute I found the following:
Over a five minute period the Galaxy Nexus averaged -102.6 dBm and 50% (2 of 4) bars.
Over a five minute period the Atrix 4G averaged -98.4 dBm and 60% (3 of 5) bars.
So the Galaxy Nexus, using the stock baseband, definitely receives a lower signal. From my years working at a cable company I know that a 3 dB drop in signal is a 50% reduction in power, though I don't know what the ideal signal range is for GSM so I don't know how big of a deal it is at this point.
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One thing that I will add to here is Motorola has been known for very strong radios (however they do it). You are comparing top notch radios to middle of the road.
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dru858 said:
Received my GSM Nexus from the Google Play store last week and have noticed thus far that it seems I am receiving fairly low signal at home and at work. I compared the signal to my wife's iPhone 3GS and it was around 5 to 6 dBm less on my Nexus. My signal at home has never been that great and I just started a new job in a different part of town so I can't really compare definitively but it just strikes me as odd. I haven't taken the phone out much because I'm waiting for my case.
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What baseband is currently on your phone?
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Right, look, I'm not trying to compare random signal strengths across the nation.
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^This, although you kind of did set yourself up for a bunch of stupid responses ... we need to compare signal from the same carrier in the same location - looking at info from two different carriers in different locations is pointless.
Generally speaking, compared to previous generations, the Galaxy Nexus is improved. For example, my GN always keeps 3G signal in areas where my Nexus One regularly drops to EDGE. Seems like others have reported the same for the Nexus S: http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...n-the-Nexus-Galaxy-is-better-than-the-Nexus-S
However, I would not be surprised if the GN has worse reception than the 3GS. Reports I've read seem to indicate that the 3GS is very good. Compare it with the iPhone 4 (also very good... until you touch it ): http://www.anandtech.com/show/3794/the-iphone-4-review/2
I would really like to see comparisons between the GN and other phones of the same generation (GS2, Sensation, for example)
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what baseband is currently on your phone?
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I know we are dealing with DBM here, but on a side note AOSP roms display data signal on the bars.
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Hey Wilsonium what adapter are you using for micro sim. I have been thinking of upgrading to one S but want to be able to go back to my GNex on the fly.
I am going to put this here. Any comments from developers that can help us?
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/entry-312-sprint-lte-launch-market-connection-issues/
This has been confirmed by myself and others on that site. My nick is troyd96 on there.
Can a developer figure out how to manually adjust the signal thresholds so that the phone knows weak LTE signals are preferable to stronger 3G signals. An OTA might fix this, but I am not holding my breath of it coming.
There is no hidden menus where you can adjust this threshold.
I've been looking for setting to change threshold like I did for Wi-Max
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Just trying to read the LTE signal strength can be challenging because the Android standard doesn't cover it yet. So even discovering what OEM voodoo is being done to read that on this phone would be interesting. See my post at S4GRU here.
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Just trying to read the LTE signal strength can be challenging because the Android standard doesn't cover it yet. So even discovering what OEM voodoo is being done to read that on this phone would be interesting. See my post at S4GRU here.
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It may be voodoo, but it is obvious that places that should be getting LTE with live towers, on their weakest coverage area the phone does not like it and rejects it. Regardless of what the true signal levels are. There are enough people that have tested this, for me to believe. So regardless there is an issue here. It would be nice to try to play around with the threshold to see if it helps. IMHO it would.
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It may be voodoo, but it is obvious that places that should be getting LTE with live towers, on their weakest coverage area the phone does not like it and rejects it. Regardless of what the true signal levels are. There are enough people that have tested this, for me to believe. So regardless there is an issue here. It would be nice to try to play around with the threshold to see if it helps. IMHO it would.
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I am not arguing with you or with the content of the S4GRU article. I just thought I might bootstrap the conversation with a little additional research on what to look for in the code. However this fallback threshold is being handled under the hood, it must include reading some metric for LTE signal strength.
I do not think this is a hardware issue.. I think it is more of a Sprint is lying about how many towers are actually live..
case in point.. I can go to the woodlands or to Copperfield and my phone locks into LGE4G and switches seamlessly as needed..
however.
anywhere else that Sprint is showing as active is pretty much dead with no 4G and patehtic 3G even though if you go to the LGE coverage map as of Sunday it is showing as covered..
I think a large portion of what they think is covered now.. really isn't.
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I do not think this is a hardware issue.. I think it is more of a Sprint is lying about how many towers are actually live..
case in point.. I can go to the woodlands or to Copperfield and my phone locks into LGE4G and switches seamlessly as needed..
however.
anywhere else that Sprint is showing as active is pretty much dead with no 4G and patehtic 3G even though if you go to the LGE coverage map as of Sunday it is showing as covered..
I think a large portion of what they think is covered now.. really isn't.
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I don't believe you are correct here. The creator of that site gets official info from Sprint about what towers are live, and he also has official info on Towers that will be upgraded and not live yet. People can force their phone to use LTE in those weak areas where it wants to go 3G by ##data## HDR/1X settings checking LTE only. The only issue with that is that you lose voice/text. So it is indeed something software wise on the hardware telling the phone to accept the 3G signal and reject the weak LTE signal.
The amount of towers live is accurate on that site. I am unsure of what maps you can see on the site if you are not a sponsor, but I have seen the maps they are accurate, but it does take sometimes up to two weeks for the info the be released to where he can update the "live" maps.
The LTE in the Atlanta area where I am is probably 20-30% complete, but the problem I am talking about is people on the edge of what should be coverage on a known active site (meaning it has been verified by users and by the site as a live tower) are getting switched to 3G.
There is known range of what LTE towers can do at certain frequency when it comes to coverage. People are within these ranges and on the weaker ranges of the LTE signal area they are being forced to 3G, when they can force their phone to LTE and it works fine.
So it is definitely software/firmware/modem based.
CVSiN said:
I do not think this is a hardware issue.. I think it is more of a Sprint is lying about how many towers are actually live.
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Nobody said it was a "hardware issue." The hypothesis in the article, proved in disabling the fallback, is that a firmware issue is a factor. There is a programmed threshold level of signal strength that forces the phone to fall back. The hypothesis is that this threshold would work better if it were set lower, because even a weak LTE connection can be better than a stronger EVDO signal.
And this is not mutually exclusive vis a vis your complaint about thin tower coverage. It is well known, at least to those who follow this closely at S4GRU, that these markets were launched with thinner coverage than originally planned but are continuing to be built out.
In fact, the fallback-threshold problem and the thin-coverage problem just magnify each other, because only those devices with very strong LTE signal will avoid falling back to 3G.
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I don't believe you are correct here. The creator of that site gets official info from Sprint about what towers are live, and he also has official info on Towers that will be upgraded and not live yet. People can force their phone to use LTE in those weak areas where it wants to go 3G by ##data## HDR/1X settings checking LTE only. The only issue with that is that you lose voice/text. So it is indeed something software wise on the hardware telling the phone to accept the 3G signal and reject the weak LTE signal.
The amount of towers live is accurate on that site. I am unsure of what maps you can see on the site if you are not a sponsor, but I have seen the maps they are accurate, but it does take sometimes up to two weeks for the info the be released to where he can update the "live" maps.
The LTE in the Atlanta area where I am is probably 20-30% complete, but the problem I am talking about is people on the edge of what should be coverage on a known active site (meaning it has been verified by users and by the site as a live tower) are getting switched to 3G.
There is known range of what LTE towers can do at certain frequency when it comes to coverage. People are within these ranges and on the weaker ranges of the LTE signal area they are being forced to 3G, when they can force their phone to LTE and it works fine.
So it is definitely software/firmware/modem based.
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I don't care where he is getting his info from.. do you honestly think Sprint would come out and say they lied about coverage?
They are flat lying and covering their asses.
There is no 4G coverage in 2/3s of the areas down to street view where they say there is supposed to be live towers at least here in Houston.
and the fact that in the 2 places that have been confirmed in the other thread by other users just solidify my theory.
The hardware is working fine at least on the GS3.. it swiches in and out of 4G perfectly when it senses it..
you can sit in these 2 areas and it will pick it uip every time no reboot needed..
yet go to most of the other so called covered areas.. and reboot till your phone blows up or force to LTE and still not get crap..
they are lying..
I will post flat GPS pics of my exact location and then post the Sprint service map right over my coords.. and prove it to you.
I am right smack dab in the middle of a heavy LTE covered area on the sprint map..
but no matter what you do on the device there is no signal.
In the woodlands just as in Conroe, I have areas where no 4g, mid range, or full strength. I even went to Houston the other day. No 4g in sight around 1960 area or greater. I can say that it's not a 4g blanket as the coverage map wants you to believe. Seems that's actually a when completed map.
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In the woodlands just as in Conroe, I have areas where no 4g, mid range, or full strength. I even went to Houston the other day. No 4g in sight around 1960 area or greater. I can say that it's not a 4g blanket as the coverage map wants you to believe. Seems that's actually a when completed map.
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Exactly my same experience.
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In the woodlands just as in Conroe, I have areas where no 4g, mid range, or full strength. I even went to Houston the other day. No 4g in sight around 1960 area or greater. I can say that it's not a 4g blanket as the coverage map wants you to believe. Seems that's actually a when completed map.
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I agree. Dallas is same way. SHows a large portion of Dallas as covered and everywhere I have been I have connected in only 2 places.
The coverage map is very deceiving as this is clearly not all the covered areas. Now, maybe in future build out it will be, but certainly not right now.
I was in San Antonio over the weekend and for the most part I was unable to connect to LTE. That is until I was on the runway of San Antonio International Airport. Then afte I landed in Dallas I didnt recieve LTE at all. I walked all over the airport since I had a long as hell layover. Still no LTE. However the DFW airport seems to be sponsored by Samsung. They have a Samsung lounge as well as NFC chips everywhere to download stuff for free.
Uh, this thread is not about how overly optimistic Sprint's published coverage maps are. (I actually agree that they are way overstated, on the basis of credible reports on forums.)
That does not mean that the fallback-threshold setting does not also contribute to the problem! And that is what this thread is about -- actually seeking technical solutions. If people just want to rant about Sprint, there are lots of other threads for that.
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I don't care where he is getting his info from.. do you honestly think Sprint would come out and say they lied about coverage?
They are flat lying and covering their asses.
There is no 4G coverage in 2/3s of the areas down to street view where they say there is supposed to be live towers at least here in Houston.
and the fact that in the 2 places that have been confirmed in the other thread by other users just solidify my theory.
The hardware is working fine at least on the GS3.. it swiches in and out of 4G perfectly when it senses it..
you can sit in these 2 areas and it will pick it uip every time no reboot needed..
yet go to most of the other so called covered areas.. and reboot till your phone blows up or force to LTE and still not get crap..
they are lying..
I will post flat GPS pics of my exact location and then post the Sprint service map right over my coords.. and prove it to you.
I am right smack dab in the middle of a heavy LTE covered area on the sprint map..
but no matter what you do on the device there is no signal.
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You are not getting my point. We are not talking about the official sprint.com coverage maps. We all know those are inaccurate to what really is going on. He has specific placemarked towers on Google maps, he has several actually (known live maps which only sponsors can see, and planned towers which lump the live and not-live together on a non-interactive map). The completed ones (which have been verified by him and this is through internal sprint info) They have also been proven by people with phones going right where the known "live" sites are on his map and getting full bar 4G service. You obviously have not looked at his maps at all and are just assuming things, and you are assuming wrong. I have a tower that is "live" about 0.5 miles from my house I get almost full bars in my house. I go to other places pull up his maps and where he says they are live they are indeed live.
So now that we have gotten that out of the way. It is widely known how far LTE coverage will go per tower based on frequency and power broadcast. There is no disputing that. The problem lies within places that are in the outer range of that specific (or any specific tower) they are connected to. Forcing the phone to LTE only does make the phone connect to the LTE tower with verified speed and data flowing, so no the users aren't lying either. Once they turn their phone back to LTE/CDMA/EVDO, the phone again sees the stronger 3G signal and refuses to connect to LTE in the EXACT SAME LOCATION THEY WERE WHEN THEY TOGGLED LTE ONLY.
Stick your head in the sand and be negative about Sprint all you want, meanwhile the rest of us will continue to try to find a way to fix the threshold problem that indeed exists.
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Uh, this thread is not about how overly optimistic Sprint's published coverage maps are. (I actually agree that they are way overstated, on the basis of credible reports on forums.)
That does not mean that the fallback-threshold setting does not also contribute to the problem! And that is what this thread is about -- actually seeking technical solutions. If people just want to rant about Sprint, there are lots of other threads for that.
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But that is the issue.. if there was coverage where they say it is.. your phone would not need tweaked..
They are one and the same issue.
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But that is the issue.. if there was coverage where they say it is.. your phone would not need tweaked..
They are one and the same issue.
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It can be both causes. They are complementary, not mutually exclusive. (Sorry to interrupt your emoting with logic.)
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You are not getting my point. We are not talking about the official sprint.com coverage maps. We all know those are inaccurate to what really is going on. He has specific placemarked towers on Google maps, he has several actually (known live maps which only sponsors can see, and planned towers which lump the live and not-live together on a non-interactive map). The completed ones (which have been verified by him and this is through internal sprint info) They have also been proven by people with phones going right where the known "live" sites are on his map and getting full bar 4G service. You obviously have not looked at his maps at all and are just assuming things, and you are assuming wrong. I have a tower that is "live" about 0.5 miles from my house I get almost full bars in my house. I go to other places pull up his maps and where he says they are live they are indeed live.
So now that we have gotten that out of the way. It is widely known how far LTE coverage will go per tower based on frequency and power broadcast. There is no disputing that. The problem lies within places that are in the outer range of that specific (or any specific tower) they are connected to. Forcing the phone to LTE only does make the phone connect to the LTE tower with verified speed and data flowing, so no the users aren't lying either. Once they turn their phone back to LTE/CDMA/EVDO, the phone again sees the stronger 3G signal and refuses to connect to LTE in the EXACT SAME LOCATION THEY WERE WHEN THEY TOGGLED LTE ONLY.
Stick your head in the sand and be negative about Sprint all you want, meanwhile the rest of us will continue to try to find a way to fix the threshold problem that indeed exists.
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I have that map as well.. they are flat wrong.. at least for Houston and other members that have the same maps are reporting the exact same thing. So whose head is in the sand?
I literally work 5 blocks from 1 on his list and live right next to another.. and no 4G on those towers at all in LTE forced mode or not.
Ive been with Sprint for 8 years.. so I have earned the right to be a little angry over this broken promise and lied about coverage maps.
I would never have bought the phone this early had it not been for his maps which show coverage in my area. but in reality there is none.
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I have that map as well.. they are flat wrong.. at least for Houston and other members that have the same maps are reporting the exact same thing. So whose head is in the sand?
I literally work 5 blocks from 1 on his list and live right next to another.. and no 4G on those towers at all in LTE forced mode or not.
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Are you looking at a sites complete map, or a map of the whole NV project for the area? Since only 14 percent of the total sites in the Houston market are reported complete, most of them have no LTE yet.
There's an LTE test app (maybe 2) in /system/app that may hold the answers. Just go ahead and create a shortcut to its activity with your launcher and see what's there. I've frozen it so I can't really comment on if it works for changing thresholds or not
i left verizon yesterday and switched over to go gsm but also to save money and get unlimited data back. i got the note 2 and my wife got the gs3. great phones and they work fine except my data speeds are horrid. i live in a superb coverage area to, i get 3-4 bars constant but cannot pull even close to 1 meg down on 4g or edge. this is happening on both phones. :crying:
i called tmobile today and they say it sounds tower related as i live right by it. they opened a ticket to have it looked at but im fearing if i wait this out and it doesn't get fixed im stuck, i believe i can return the phones and cancel the contract within 14 days. do you guys think i could have a couple bad sims cards or does this sound tower related? i did port our number over from verizon too. both phones are rooted with the toolkits and unlocked bootloader if that makes a difference.
i need advice as i hate to leave and go to at&t or sprint which is far worse.
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i left verizon yesterday and switched over to go gsm but also to save money and get unlimited data back. i got the note 2 and my wife got the gs3. great phones and they work fine except my data speeds are horrid. i live in a superb coverage area to, i get 3-4 bars constant but cannot pull even close to 1 meg down on 4g or edge. this is happening on both phones. :crying:
i called tmobile today and they say it sounds tower related as i live right by it. they opened a ticket to have it looked at but im fearing if i wait this out and it doesn't get fixed im stuck, i believe i can return the phones and cancel the contract within 14 days. do you guys think i could have a couple bad sims cards or does this sound tower related? i did port our number over from verizon too. both phones are rooted with the toolkits and unlocked bootloader if that makes a difference.
i need advice as i hate to leave and go to at&t or sprint which is far worse.
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Goto settings>About Device>Status and post your Signal Strength data. With -83dBm and 15 asu I get a constant 11mb down with speedtest.net.
Where else have you tested your data speeds?
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Goto settings>About Device>Status and post your Signal Strength data. With -83dBm and 15 asu I get a constant 11mb down with speedtest.net.
Where else have you tested your data speeds?
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i have not tested it anywhere else but will tomorrow.
im getting 89 dbm 12 asu on 4g. i cannot even get close to 512 on speedtest.
does it take time for data to provision or something? i know he told me it could take up to 24-48hrs for my number to be ported. but that happened late last night.
Deleted. shinkinrui you were right. Thank god I use titanium backup.
It sounds like a bad tower
-81 dBm 18 asu here
15.06 mbps down 1.71 up
You should go out and see if you get better speeds around where you are. If you go a few miles away and get great speeds then it's the tower for sure
Agree, it could be a bad tower. They were working on a tower near my office, exact same scenario. A week later, works like a charm.
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Not sure. You can try to enter *2767*3855# in the dialer and reprovision. Might have to do it two times to get it to stick. That will force a reprovision.
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This code is the factory data reset code for most Samsung devices. It doesn't have anything to do with provisioning.
my money is on bad tower too. just switched yesterday from sprint. i got the note 2, girlfriend got the s3. our speeds are INSANE compared to sprint
stretchwookie said:
my money is on bad tower too. just switched yesterday from sprint. i got the note 2, girlfriend got the s3. our speeds are INSANE compared to sprint
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My dead cat can transfer data faster than Sprint...
Drive somewhere else in their HSPA+ coverage area and run the speedtest again to verify.
It's T-mobile, when I get on train station I get constant -53dBm and below 0.05Mbit, Wanna proof ?
Try the app "fresh network" , and look at your speed test app to see that you are on HSDPA, and not umts.
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fix-this! said:
i get 3-4 bars constant but cannot pull even close to 1 meg down on 4g or edge. this is happening on both phones. :crying:
i need advice as i hate to leave and go to at&t or sprint which is far worse.
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It's the tower. The T-Mobile tower near my house has line of sight and it went down to edge speeds (like .12Mbps down, .002Mbps up) last month. I called them on the 15th and it took them about two weeks to fix it. My speeds are back to normal now, so my advice would be to notify them that the tower is FUBAR, and wait it out. That is of course assuming you get normal speeds other places too, but it would be a moot point if your home has crappy speed. Here's my latest ST:
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Different areas different speeds me and my wife got the same phones and we get average 8mbps down.
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The cause of slow speed might be the fact that T-mobile is restructuring their 1900 band on certain towers. Here in California, I happen to live in an area where they are restructuring the cell tower I am using, so I get download speed of 0.01mbps to 0.15mbps. However, as soon as i walked out of the range of that particular tower, my download speed goes up to 12mbps to 15mbps.
haha438 said:
The cause of slow speed might be the fact that T-mobile is restructuring their 1900 band on certain towers. Here in California, I happen to live in an area where they are restructuring the cell tower I am using, so I get download speed of 0.01mbps to 0.15mbps. However, as soon as i walked out of the range of that particular tower, my download speed goes up to 12mbps to 15mbps.
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I hope this is true. I'm a new T-mobile customer and have had the spottiest reception in the bay area. I've read this article (http://blog.t-mobile.com/2012/11/20...-metro-areas-just-in-time-for-holiday-travel/) and am crossing my fingers. I'm constantly stuck on EDGE when i'm indoors as well.
Same here, I pop in the TMobile sim and I get 1.5Mbps and .3 up. Pop in ATT and I get 6Mbps and 1.2 up. So it's not the phone. I'll try different areas. So far I'm not impressed with their Customer Service and Data. I was happier on GoPhone.
haha438 said:
The cause of slow speed might be the fact that T-mobile is restructuring their 1900 band on certain towers. Here in California, I happen to live in an area where they are restructuring the cell tower I am using, so I get download speed of 0.01mbps to 0.15mbps. However, as soon as i walked out of the range of that particular tower, my download speed goes up to 12mbps to 15mbps.
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yeah that's what was causing it as i called tech support. the issue was resolved within 24hrs. i have decent speeds again now.
I had a similar issue when I first bought my note 2 on release day. Was getting on average about .22 down speed and the up speeds where so slow the speedtest app could never finish running it. Called tmobile and they opened a ticket and got it working within the week. Now I get anywhere from 14-16 down at home and roughly 3 up. Guve it some time if they say they are working on it its just a matter of time.
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fix-this! said:
yeah that's what was causing it as i called tech support. the issue was resolved within 24hrs. i have decent speeds again now.
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Glad to hear your problem is fixed. I've found T-Mobile to be iffy sometimes. But 99% of the time my phone has very acceptable data speeds.