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Hey was wondering if there was a way to connect a mimo usb touch screen monitor to my g2 , it would make and awesome display to use will driving .
everything that ive heard about our micro usb connectors is that there is NO video out
so i think you are out of luck...
I'm looking to do the same thing in my car someday too...
DLNA
Mog said:
everything that ive heard about our micro usb connectors is that there is NO video out
so i think you are out of luck...
I'm looking to do the same thing in my car someday too...
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NO but DLNA ???
Mog said:
everything that ive heard about our micro usb connectors is that there is NO video out
so i think you are out of luck...
I'm looking to do the same thing in my car someday too...
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MIMO Monitors are entirely USB-based, so their doesn't need any kind of video out signals on the connector (standard USB connectors do not have video out either). Unfortunately, the USB controller in the G2 does not have USB host capabilities in the current kernel, so this would have to be developed first. Then drivers for the monitor itself would need to be ported over.
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NO but DLNA ???
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While DLNA would work if you are simply trying to stream media over to a larger display in your car, the standard doesn't support displaying the entire phone's screen as is (i.e., you can't send touch responses back to phone, you won't be able to run apps on it, etc.).
No im not looking to use dlna , the mimo monitor is a usb touchscreen monitor . I'm basically looking to make a car dock for my phone and use that as the display and touchscreen .
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MIMO Monitors are entirely USB-based, so their doesn't need any kind of video out signals on the connector (standard USB connectors do not have video out either). Unfortunately, the USB controller in the G2 does not have USB host capabilities in the current kernel, so this would have to be developed first. Then drivers for the monitor itself would need to be ported over.
While DLNA would work if you are simply trying to stream media over to a larger display in your car, the standard doesn't support displaying the entire phone's screen as is (i.e., you can't send touch responses back to phone, you won't be able to run apps on it, etc.).
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Do you happen to know if it would take alot of knowledge to add USB OTG support to the kernal ? i know some other phone have been modded to allow usb host , like the droid and the nexus one .
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Hey it looks like with some work the display link drivers for linux can be used for android to connect and external usb monitor/touchscreen , Can anyone else look at this and tell me if this is some thing that can be done ?
http://sites.google.com/site/voyageofbeagleboard/Home/displaylink-for-android
I'm an EVO user that is VERY interested in seeing this come to light...I don't want this thread to die!
Here are some linux drivers that should work for the mimo monitor so with usb host enable and maybe some modification to the drivers we could get it to work , just wish i knew enough to do it .
http://touch-base.com/
wow
this would be the greatest hack ever to have a permmounted large screen for phone interaction wothis must come to life yt would change everything, 1 device plugged in wherever you are with U/I and hardware to match your usage neeeds
bhang
Hello!
I have been asked into looking for usb host support for nook touch. The hardware appears to be pretty similar to Nook Color, so there were no troubles in that area.
The kernel used by B&N for the Nook Touch is somewhat older than .32 kernel used for Nook Color, so the patch itself required some massage. Surprisingly B&N kernel already has usb host support compiled in, so you don't even need to change anything in kernel config, just apply the patch.
Just like in Nook Color, the id pin in the usb receptacle is not connected anywhere, so a special app is needed to switch the host mode on and off. The Nook Color usbhost switcher should work: https://github.com/verygreen/Nook-Color-usbhost-switcher though I cannot compile it for eclair, so I guess that needs some more massage and help here would be appreciated.
Meanwhile you can simply switch the mode from adb, type
Code:
echo host > /sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc/mode
to enable usb host mode and type
Code:
echo peripheral > /sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc/mode
to disable it.
The LED at the bottom that usually indicates charging status will light up in usb host mode even if the power is not connected.
The upside is you don't need a special OTG cable and can just use gender changer on your existing nook cable if you so desire.
Now, problems
I have not tracked why yet, but self powered mode only works when you try to enable it first with external power plugged in first.
The user-friendly tool for usbhost mode switching needs to be compiled for eclair
The self-powered mode is very faint. Keeps up with my keyboard, but not even with a simple usb hub.
Battery drain is significant, though not sure what part of it is attributed to the usbhost mode and what to adb over wifi
Eclair init is buggy so input devices are unusable without a patch, see commit 6405c6953fa02d41d9f6377f4cdb947604f481c4 in google tree to sytem/core/init. I am attaching recompiled init binary that works.
Attachments: binary.zip contains:
uImage - prebuilt 1.1 kernel with the patch
uRamdisk - root ramdisk with fixed init, adb over wifi
init - just recompiled init binary for those who might need it
usbhost_patch.zip - just the patch itself in it's current form.
THANKS TO:
andrewed, who asked me to do this and also provided me with a device. He is on a quest to touchtype on e-paper with a USB physical keyboard, all described here: Project: E-Paper Tablet (typable!)
Thats just awesome, thanks!
Now the only thing missing is a good ebook composer and publisher, and it becomes symetrical.
That is awesome! How about audio and serial ports?
Thanks!
bisbal said:
That is awesome! How about audio and serial ports?
Thanks!
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Audio will most probably require external power source. Also to make audio work there would need to be some changes to the libaudio, likely similar in nature to stuff I did for Nook Color, only for this older release of Android.
Serial ports will likely work as is as I don't think they draw too much power. The kernel support for usbserial would need to be added of course.
Possibility for Bluetooth dongle? And thus audio?
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Thiso said:
Possibility for Bluetooth dongle? And thus audio?
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Should be possible, but would require external power for the bt dongle I would think.
Verygreen,
As of now, what is the use? Can I put an external keyboard as it is? Does it need a driver (or something of the sort) for that? Can I put a usb stick? Audio and BT, as I can see, need an extra effort...
Anyway, thank you for your effort. I thought I'd never see something like that for the STR.
apeine said:
Verygreen,
As of now, what is the use? Can I put an external keyboard as it is? Does it need a driver (or something of the sort) for that? Can I put a usb stick? Audio and BT, as I can see, need an extra effort...
Anyway, thank you for your effort. I thought I'd never see something like that for the STR.
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You can use keyboard and mouse as is with just the files posted, no extra drivers need. Everything else would need more work at the android side.
for some phones it is possible to buy usb to audio jack converter, e.g.
http://www.amazon.com/Headphones-Ea...6?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1327504575&sr=1-6
I don't know how much effort and changes is needed on kernel side to make it work though.
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Do I need to copy all three binaries? Also, could you prepare uRamdisk with adb over usb (not wifi) enabled? Thank you in advance.
cceerrtt said:
for some phones it is possible to buy usb to audio jack converter, e.g.
http://www.amazon.com/Headphones-Ea...6?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1327504575&sr=1-6
I don't know how much effort and changes is needed on kernel side to make it work though.
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Those are not applicable, since they aren't actually connected to the USB port. On some phones, the USB "plug" is modified to connect with extra pins -- which carry audio signal.
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Do I need to copy all three binaries? Also, could you prepare uRamdisk with adb over usb (not wifi) enabled? Thank you in advance.
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You need the kernel uImage and uRamdisk files, init is already included.
As far as adb over usb is concerned, it's a bit pointless since there is only one usb receptacle, so you can either connect with adb over usb or connect some usb device, but not both at the same time.
That's why wifi makes more sense.
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Should be possible, but would require external power for the bt dongle I would think.
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BT USB dongle consumes almost same as USB mouse
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/squeezing-more-life-out-of-your-notebook,review-583-26.html
Since USB mouse is working, BT USB might be feasible as well...
verygreen said:
You need the kernel uImage and uRamdisk files, init is already included.
As far as adb over usb is concerned, it's a bit pointless since there is only one usb receptacle, so you can either connect with adb over usb or connect some usb device, but not both at the same time.
That's why wifi makes more sense.
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My point is that you don't need wireless access point with adb over usb. It is also more secure than adb over wifi with lower power consumption. Whenewer I need adb over wifi, I can enable it using one adb command. Moreover, using both adb and keyboard attached to nook would not be very frequent scenario (at least in my case).
Thiso said:
BT USB dongle consumes almost same as USB mouse
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/squeezing-more-life-out-of-your-notebook,review-583-26.html
Since USB mouse is working, BT USB might be feasible as well...
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I've tried a few BT dongles and they can be detected without external power, but I have yet to figure out if BT communications can be driven without external power as well.
USB Host Mode Swicth for Nook Simple Touch
Attached is a Nook Simple Touch version of verygreens USB Host Mode switching app.
Requires properly installed "su" in /system/bin
Let me know if there are problems.
Let's hope so. But I have good hopes as BT intention is to be low power communication. In the post I was referring to earlier, the power communication of BT in use was similar to USB mouse in use...
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Would this cable work for host? I've had cables refuse to work with other devices for no apparent reason before, and I don't really want to order something that won't work.
http://www.amazon.com/female-Micro-male-Cable-Adapter/dp/B005GI2VMG/ref=pd_vtp_e_77
TorimuNooter
I'll try to get this included in my TorimuNooter root! Maybe version 0.5 I'm working on 0.4 right now and I can't include your USB host support because it's not yet complete, but I will try to implement it as soon as I can.
Good work!
@Googie2149: Any standard USB cable will work as well as any other.
The ID pin on the micro USB connector on the Nook is not going anywhere so a special OTG cable is not required.
I loaded in the new uImage and uRamdisk and things act more consistently, but I still can't get a keyboard to work.
Neither of the two utilities out there seem to work correctly for me. I do have su installed. I have had more success with simple commands
Code:
echo host > /sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc/mode
echo peripheral > /sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc/mode
cat /sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc/mode
One thing is clear; the Nook adheres to the USB standard for supplying power, that is, it supplies it for 100 millisecs and if the peripheral signals back correctly it continues to supply it. Issuing a host command cause the red LED to flash for about a 1/10 of a second. Supplying power on the red wire is not necessary for host communication.
My setup has a powered hub and a cable with the red lead not carried through. I can issue a host command but it never seems to communicate. The status reads back "a_wait_vrise".
Does anybody have any insight into the FSM to say what is going on?
Hi All,
I've had a good look through the "contacts" issues and can't see a relevant thread that helps with a 2 point problem so here goes:
I have an Xperia Arc LT15i
It has suffered some water damage, though the indicator is still white.
The screen is completely dead / black rendering the phone unusable.
Connecting the phone to pc with USB lead allows me to access the SD card through PC Companion - this is the good news.
The bad news is I have no way of backing up my contacts to the PC as I assume they are stored on the phone memory and there is no way as far as I can tell to see a contacts folder.
The Contact Back Up feature on PC companion and everything else I've read requires that I access the phone directly, which I can't do.
Does anyone know how I can access my contacts to back them up using a USB connection and not needing to directly interact with the phone?
Also, is there any chance that this fault will repair itself and the phone come back to life or do I save whatever files I can and then write it off?
Thanks a lot.
BrazilNut said:
Hi All,
I've had a good look through the "contacts" issues and can't see a relevant thread that helps with a 2 point problem so here goes:
I have an Xperia Arc LT15i
It has suffered some water damage, though the indicator is still white.
The screen is completely dead / black rendering the phone unusable.
Connecting the phone to pc with USB lead allows me to access the SD card through PC Companion - this is the good news.
The bad news is I have no way of backing up my contacts to the PC as I assume they are stored on the phone memory and there is no way as far as I can tell to see a contacts folder.
The Contact Back Up feature on PC companion and everything else I've read requires that I access the phone directly, which I can't do.
Does anyone know how I can access my contacts to back them up using a USB connection and not needing to directly interact with the phone?
Also, is there any chance that this fault will repair itself and the phone come back to life or do I save whatever files I can and then write it off?
Thanks a lot.
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You had your contacts synced with your google account? Try logging from google to your account and search for the contacts page.
Phenomzye said:
You had your contacts synced with your google account? Try logging from google to your account and search for the contacts page.
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Thanks, but I'd tried that and regrettably the contacts are not there so I can't have synched them.
http://www.droidxforums.com/forum/droid-x-rescue-squad/30987-acquire-contacts-via-adb.html
Of course that would require USB debugging to be enabled.
If it's not, you can use the keyboard and usb-otg adapter to enable it like this guy did:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/sa...een-need-keyboard-sequence-usb-debugging.html
Of course his phone is different, so hopefully you're using stock gingerbread? or ICS?
play around.
Basically, for any other tool you would need ADB, so try to get that enabled.
Are you rooted?
issak42;45427155
Of course that would require USB debugging to be enabled.
If it's not said:
I'm new to all this, but as far as I can tell, the other guy is referring to a separate keyboard on his particular phone. The Arc doesn't have a keyboard - only on screen.
Not rooted.
Can anyone give me a step by step solution?
Thanks.
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Wait, don't you have HDMI out? If you don't have HDMI cable, look on ebay for that too, I'm sure you can get one for cheap, you just might have to wait a little to arrive from hong kong or china
Plug in a screen.
That guy is reffering to 'otg' keyboard:
https://www.google.com/search?gfns=...w&biw=1920&bih=986&sei=7skyUry5D4iMtAbr04HoCA
Arc s does support it, I tried. No root needed. And since Arc is pretty much exact same thing, it shouldn't cause any issues either.
Actually if you get the picture on the screen via HDMI, you're better off using a mouse. You will need the 'usb otg' connector (search ebay, they are really cheap) and USB mouse. Any should work, even wireless with dongles (logitech nano any unifying reciever both work)
issak42 said:
Wait, don't you have HDMI out? If you don't have HDMI cable, look on ebay for that too, I'm sure you can get one for cheap, you just might have to wait a little to arrive from hong kong or china
Plug in a screen.
That guy is reffering to 'otg' keyboard:
Arc s does support it, I tried. No root needed. And since Arc is pretty much exact same thing, it shouldn't cause any issues either.
Actually if you get the picture on the screen via HDMI, you're better off using a mouse. You will need the 'usb otg' connector (search ebay, they are really cheap) and USB mouse. Any should work, even wireless with dongles (logitech nano any unifying reciever both work)
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Hi, thanks for the advice. If I was in the UK, it would be much easier to get hold of these things, but I'm in Brazil travelling and (whilst not complaining), it's going to be tough to get things set up as you suggest. I still have the USB OTG that came with the phone but keyboard and particularly HDMI connection will be a problem.
But it would be definitely worth a try if I can arrange things at some point. Thanks,
The RAVPower FileHub (RP-WD02) seems to pitch 3 major features: WiFI Router, Media Sharing and Power Bank. I tested these main features, and as you can see below the device seems to do what it advertises.
- Media Sharing
I loaded a few different MP4 movies on my FileHub (microSD card) and started to stream from other devices, adding one at a time but keeping the prior device still running. I also chose a different video for each device. As a side note, I was able to copy a file directly from a USB thumb drive to the microSD card and the transfer was handled by the FileHub itself.
Devices:
NOTE: FileHub was connected (via wireless) to my home router for internet access.
1) Xbox 360 connected directly to my Linksys router and access the FileHub (via DLNA).
2) Laptop connected to the FileHub via wireless..
3) Nexus 7 connected to the FileHub via wireless.
4) Moto X connected to the FileHub via wireless.
The only time devices 2,3 and 4 had any sort of hiccup was when another devices was first starting to load a movie but it would smooth out quickly. Once the movies were all playing, the 3 devices (#2, #3 and #4 all connected directly to the FileHub via wireless) had no problem streaming 3 different videos at the same time. Device #1 had the most issues but it wasn’t directly connected to the FileHub via wireless -- it was going through another device (older Linksys router) which is likely part of the reason it had issues. Once I stopped devices 2-4, the Xbox (device #1) played the movie with no problem again.
I consider the above a “stress” test, normal use (one or two devices) shouldn’t be a problem at all especially if you connect via wireless directly to the FileHub. I didn't test MP3s or anything else -- if it can handle multiple movie streams, I am sure music / other files aren't an issue.
- WiFi Router / AP / Bridge
I connected the FileHub device directly (via ethernet cable) to my home wifi (Linksys router). Next, I used the Ookla Speedtest.net application on my Nexus 7 tablet and did 3 tests on my home wifi, and 3 test on the filehub. The download speeds, upload speeds and ping time were all within the same variance so the FileHub had no noticeable impact.
In addition to connecting to an Ethernet network, the FileHub can connect to a wireless network that way any devices connected to the FileHub via wireless can still have a connection to the Internet. If you travel this could be a useful way to setup your own wireless network in a hotel.
One thing I did notice, there isn’t really an option to set this up as a true wireless access point where it simply acts as a media converter so that you can connect your wireless device to a wired network. This device always acts as a router/AP combo, so your wireless clients are on an internal (10.10.10.X by default) network. If this device truly could act just as an access point, your wireless client would pick up an IP address from whatever network was on the other side (for my Linksys it would be a 192.168.1.X address). While this may not matter for the average user, I figure I would point it out. I contacted RAVPower support to see if maybe I am missing something.
- PowerBank
Not much to test here, it acts as a 6000 mAh powerbank. Once interesting feature that I didn’t find in the manual, if the device was off and I gave the power button a short press the battery light would turn on and the device would act as a PowerBank without the other capabilities. This could be useful if you want to charge your phone without the device itself being on (which I would assume reduces the power consumption).
Overall I am impressed so far, but am still playing with the device. If you have any questions, or can think of any tests I should consider, please let me know.
Hello.
Thanks for your review.
It's not mentioned ,but it's compatible with microSDXC , it work with my SanDisk Ultra 64 Go UHS-I SDSDQUA-064G-U46A :good:
Hi, nice review
I have a question :
What transfer speeds do you get when copying from a sd-card to a USB connected device? My wd02 takes about 10 min to copy 1 Gb...
Thanks for answering
dope649 said:
Hi, nice review
I have a question :
What transfer speeds do you get when copying from a sd-card to a USB connected device? My wd02 takes about 10 min to copy 1 Gb...
Thanks for answering
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I am no longer using a standard firmware (don't ask lol) so it really wouldn't be good for me to compare times. Are you doing the internal microSD to USB? Should be quick (in theory) since it is all on the same device.
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I am no longer using a standard firmware (don't ask lol)
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As the latest (2.000.014) fw seems to have broken some things (compared to 2.000.002 which was preinstalled), I'm asking... Want to share something mouth-watering?
steve8x8 said:
As the latest (2.000.014) fw seems to have broken some things (compared to 2.000.002 which was preinstalled), I'm asking... Want to share something mouth-watering?
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Ah nothing too interesting, I think I had a copy of the 2.000.014 before it was released. What broke on it for you?
2.000.014 apparently preserved passwords set on 2.000.002 but I had to hard reset the device. After that, I found that the "passwd" command would modify /etc/shadow while the "telnetd" would continue using /etc/passwd contents. Bad busybox?
Trying to get my hands on the GPL release now (if such a thing exists).
Shouldn't there be a .030 (for the WD01 there was a .014 too before)? How to get older fw versions?
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2.000.014 apparently preserved passwords set on 2.000.002 but I had to hard reset the device. After that, I found that the "passwd" command would modify /etc/shadow while the "telnetd" would continue using /etc/passwd contents. Bad busybox?
Trying to get my hands on the GPL release now (if such a thing exists).
Shouldn't there be a .030 (for the WD01 there was a .014 too before)? How to get older fw versions?
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I wish they did a changelog for updates, I will see if I have an older copy somewhere on one of my drives but other than that I don't know how to get them.
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I wish they did a changelog for updates, I will see if I have an older copy somewhere on one of my drives but other than that I don't know how to get them.
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I'll try to get in touch with them (Twitter? E-mail?) to get access to older FW and GPL sources. Over-optimistic, perhaps.
steve8x8 said:
I'll try to get in touch with them (Twitter? E-mail?) to get access to older FW and GPL sources. Over-optimistic, perhaps.
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What are you trying to get from the old one? Just curious. I haven't tested the new one much is it broken?
As setting the root password did work with the old FW, and I first took it over to the new one successfully (only to lose it to a factory reset), there clearly must be a difference. I know I cannot easily replace the new busybox with the old one while keeping the rest of the FW, but having the option to downgrade (for science) is somewhat appealing.
Whoa! This thing is super neat! Thanks for the heads up and review!
Few Questions...
I just got one of these and am trying to bend it to my whims. Running into a few problems, though...
1) I can't change the device's IP address to something in the 192.168.0.xxx range. If it could be done, this would ease the issue you mentioned of it not acting as a 'true' router, since it would at least be issuing IP Addresses on the right subnet as the rest of my network. I tried changing the DHCP settings, but that resulted in a hard reset since it wouldn't let me also change the IP address.
2) I'm not sure if this is specific to Xperia devices or not, but in the Storage settings, there's a feature for 'Remote Share' that basically mounts a network share as a folder in the Android file system, so it can be treated as 'local'. I've not had any luck setting the FileHub to play nice with this as of yet. It'd be great to be able to shift my music collection to the FileHub and still have it playable in the usual music players.
3) Most of the time I'm using this on-the-go. How can I maintain my LTE data connection while simultaneously connecting to the FileHub via WiFi?
4) You mentioned not using stock firmware... Where can I find other options? The built-in stuff is servicable, but limited. Might even remedy the IP Address config issue.
While I probably cannot answer your questions, I have another one myself: is there a way to add a USB 3G stick to make the device aware of mobile data networks? (I haven't found any confirmation it could, only a single hint that the WD01 wasn't able - with an older fw.)
steve8x8 said:
While I probably cannot answer your questions, I have another one myself: is there a way to add a USB 3G stick to make the device aware of mobile data networks? (I haven't found any confirmation it could, only a single hint that the WD01 wasn't able - with an older fw.)
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I just tried a 3G/4G stick on my Filehub, and while it powered up and appared to obtain a signal, there's really no way for the FileHub to know it's there or what to do with it. Good Idea, though... That'd be a great feature for them to add in the future!
Before connecting, run "lsusb" and "lsmod" as root. Repeat after having connected the USB device. The USB id may give us an idea about what will be needed; I'd not expect support for 3G devices in the kernel, and we might need GPL code from RAV before we can modify the system accordingly.
I vaguely remember a report of attempts to run OpenWRT on the device, but cannot find it anymore. (Was it real at all?)
Nice review. I just purchased this handy little device and put it through some heavy usage for testing and it works great. Only thing I cannot figure out is how to update the firmware or if there even is an update for the firmware. I am currently running on ver 2.000.002. Could anyone else confirm if this is the latest and if not how to update it? TIA
I have 2.000.014 on my WD02 (installed from a FW file d/l'd from RAV), but haven't seen any advantage. If I had access to a flashable 2.000.002 firmware I'd certainly go back!
Note that in the WD01 thread, someone reported a .030 (?) FW that even broke telnet access. RAV is trying to close holes that have been used to improve the device, it seems.
TesseractE said:
I just got one of these and am trying to bend it to my whims. Running into a few problems, though...
1) I can't change the device's IP address to something in the 192.168.0.xxx range. If it could be done, this would ease the issue you mentioned of it not acting as a 'true' router, since it would at least be issuing IP Addresses on the right subnet as the rest of my network. I tried changing the DHCP settings, but that resulted in a hard reset since it wouldn't let me also change the IP address.
2) I'm not sure if this is specific to Xperia devices or not, but in the Storage settings, there's a feature for 'Remote Share' that basically mounts a network share as a folder in the Android file system, so it can be treated as 'local'. I've not had any luck setting the FileHub to play nice with this as of yet. It'd be great to be able to shift my music collection to the FileHub and still have it playable in the usual music players.
3) Most of the time I'm using this on-the-go. How can I maintain my LTE data connection while simultaneously connecting to the FileHub via WiFi?
4) You mentioned not using stock firmware... Where can I find other options? The built-in stuff is servicable, but limited. Might even remedy the IP Address config issue.
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1) If the wifi network you are connecting the filehub to is on the 192.168.0.xx range then your internal network probably can't be the same because basically the filehub would have two networks on two interfaces.
2) I think that is an Xperia setting I don't recall seeing it on my devices.
3) As far as I know you can't since putting it on wifi makes it use that for network connectivity.
4) Best you can do is try to find the older firmware which you can actually telnet to and make config changes on if you know how.
Re older FW: Can someone try and get RAV to publish all of their FW releases, *plus* the overdue GPL pack they have to provide?
Is there like a network device that I can buy to turn my 2.5" external hard drives into NAS so I can access my movies from Stick TV running XBMC?
hydeah said:
Is there like a network device that I can buy to turn my 2.5" external hard drives into NAS so I can access my movies from Stick TV running XBMC?
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I haven't tried it myself, but something like this should work: http://www.amazon.com/HooToo-TripMate-Wireless-Pocket-Travel/dp/B00HZWOQZ6/
hydeah said:
Is there like a network device that I can buy to turn my 2.5" external hard drives into NAS so I can access my movies from Stick TV running XBMC?
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Most new wireless routers have usb with media server features.
If you use a separate router that allows you to connect your external HD & wish to keep the Fire TV connected to your current router then I believe you'll have to bridge both routers, if not then you can only connect to one wireless router at a time. The setup itself shouldn't be that hard but it does take some configuration.
Another option would be to purchase a Y-OTG cable that allows you to connect your external HD directly to the stick but I believe your external HD would need an external power source to make it work. Again, I can't confirm if what I wrote would actually work..just throwing some ideas out there.
AFTVnews.com said:
I haven't tried it myself, but something like this should work: http://www.amazon.com/HooToo-TripMate-Wireless-Pocket-Travel/dp/B00HZWOQZ6/
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Thanks, but I don't believe this will work because it works as a separate router, if it was a USB to CAT5 hub of some sort, it would be ideal but this does not function like that. Thanks for the suggestion, though.
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Most new wireless routers have usb with media server features.
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I believe they only work with one USB at a time and the one I had (Netgear AC1750) did not work properly, kept dropping connection or just would randomly not see the hard drive, the way it works is not very user friendly. In fact once it even corrupted one of my hard drives, and I freaked! Luckily Wndows was able to correct the issue. It doesn't show the folders as NAS but more like a network device like a PC, so you couldn't easily see the data in there. I now have a TP Link, WDR3600, I believe it works fine with USB Thumb Drives but it won't work with USB hard drives (multiple) but I can at least try to buy a USB HUB and try that to see if it can mount multiple hard drives. As I mentioned above, I am also concerned about corrupting the hard drives when router is finicky.
EL TEJANO said:
If you use a separate router that allows you to connect your external HD & wish to keep the Fire TV connected to your current router then I believe you'll have to bridge both routers, if not then you can only connect to one wireless router at a time. The setup itself shouldn't be that hard but it does take some configuration.
Another option would be to purchase a Y-OTG cable that allows you to connect your external HD directly to the stick but I believe your external HD would need an external power source to make it work. Again, I can't confirm if what I wrote would actually work..just throwing some ideas out there.
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I believe Fire Stick TV has only one USB port for power and power is required to keep it running. With Y-OTG, we won't be able to get power to the 2.5" external drive anyway and also there is no way to mount that drive easily , so network would be best option.
Found this but it has less than stellar reviews:
http://www.amazon.com/Addonics-NASU2-NAS-Adapter/dp/B001OC5J9U
you could try a pogo plug, also make sure the hard drive is not going to sleep. i use a netgear router and have not had an issue with the stick seeing my media. i can mount it as a dlna drive or smb. if you are looking to use it with plex then u will need an actual nas drive so u can run the plex server on it. if the router u have only has one port it is prob only going to mount one drive. but with what ever solution u use i would make sure that the sleep function is off on the hard drive as it can cause issues. if i remember correctly on some of the pogo plugs u can install arch linux and then plug a drive into and have it act as an actual nas and not just a hard drive plugged into the router.
hydeah said:
I believe Fire Stick TV has only one USB port for power and power is required to keep it running. With Y-OTG, we won't be able to get power to the 2.5" external drive anyway and also there is no way to mount that drive easily , so network would be best option.
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Correct, which is why I said the external HD would have to have a separate power supply that is not powered via USB, I do see your point though as most new external drives are powered through the USB.. The Y-OTG cable will still allow you to power your stick & utilize the other connection for data but again if your external HD doesn't have a non-usb connection for power then yes you're out of luck.
I know with the Fire TV Box, people use an app called StickMount to mount external storage, the caveat though is your AFTS has to be Rooted; my guess is with the Y-OTG cable it should allow you to connect your external HD & run the same app but that's if everything I mentioned is in order.
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Correct, which is why I said the external HD would have to have a separate power supply that is not powered via USB, I do see your point though as most new external drives are powered through the USB.. The Y-OTG cable will still allow you to power your stick & utilize the other connection for data but again if your external HD doesn't have a non-usb connection for power then yes you're out of luck.
I know with the Fire TV Box, people use an app called StickMount to mount external storage, the caveat though is your AFTS has to be Rooted; my guess is with the Y-OTG cable it should allow you to connect your external HD & run the same app but that's if everything I mentioned is in order.
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I thought about getting the box since it has better hardware and more ways to "hack" but at $19 I couldn't pass on the Stick which finally allowed me to turn off my computer completely! Now if I can get my XBMC see my storage, i'll be done. Honestly if they charged $50 for stick with USB input or for the actual fire TV box and add USB ports, that would be amazing. I think Apple TV does that, right? But can we get Amazon and XBMC on it?
pbanj said:
you could try a pogo plug, also make sure the hard drive is not going to sleep. i use a netgear router and have not had an issue with the stick seeing my media. i can mount it as a dlna drive or smb. if you are looking to use it with plex then u will need an actual nas drive so u can run the plex server on it. if the router u have only has one port it is prob only going to mount one drive. but with what ever solution u use i would make sure that the sleep function is off on the hard drive as it can cause issues. if i remember correctly on some of the pogo plugs u can install arch linux and then plug a drive into and have it act as an actual nas and not just a hard drive plugged into the router.
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What does Pogo exactly do? I thought it was a hardware for a very specific service to access your files remotely, can you even see the files locally using simple sharing process?
Is this something I can do with Raspberry Pi? I just thought of this, I remember seeing RP units with multiple USB ports and RJ45. If there is a small NAS software, or even a simple linux that allows you to share your drives with other devices, this just might be what I am looking for. I am not sure if RP can power 3 drives simultaneously,
How is something like this?
http://www.amazon.com/CanaKit-Raspberry-Ultimate-Starter-Components/dp/B00G1PNG54
Thanks again guys.
hydeah said:
I thought about getting the box since it has better hardware and more ways to "hack" but at $19 I couldn't pass on the Stick which finally allowed me to turn off my computer completely! Now if I can get my XBMC see my storage, i'll be done. Honestly if they charged $50 for stick with USB input or for the actual fire TV box and add USB ports, that would be amazing. I think Apple TV does that, right? But can we get Amazon and XBMC on it?
What does Pogo exactly do? I thought it was a hardware for a very specific service to access your files remotely, can you even see the files locally using simple sharing process?
Is this something I can do with Raspberry Pi? I just thought of this, I remember seeing RP units with multiple USB ports and RJ45. If there is a small NAS software, or even a simple linux that allows you to share your drives with other devices, this just might be what I am looking for. I am not sure if RP can power 3 drives simultaneously,
How is something like this?
http://www.amazon.com/CanaKit-Raspberry-Ultimate-Starter-Components/dp/B00G1PNG54
Thanks again guys.
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ya you can use minidlna i think it is called for the rpi. a buddy of mine does that, he says its not the best thing in the world but it does work. i think if you got a banana-pi it may work better as it has better specs and still works with all the rpi stuff. as for the pogo plug im not sure how it normally works but i do know people have been putting arch linux on them to use them for dlna stuff and the model for that is under 20$ iirc
this is the banana pi http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...44&cm_re=banana_pi-_-9SIA6DB2337144-_-Product
http://www.amazon.com/EP-3701-Wireless-Access-Drive-Android/dp/B00IR5DJ4E
pbanj said:
ya you can use minidlna i think it is called for the rpi. a buddy of mine does that, he says its not the best thing in the world but it does work. i think if you got a banana-pi it may work better as it has better specs and still works with all the rpi stuff. as for the pogo plug im not sure how it normally works but i do know people have been putting arch linux on them to use them for dlna stuff and the model for that is under 20$ iirc
this is the banana pi http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...44&cm_re=banana_pi-_-9SIA6DB2337144-_-Product
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I've been checking these, I thought r-pie was about $20 but it seems it will cost a bit more than that if I consider using it as NAS after case, etc it will be $50-$60 or so looks like it. Found this page, btw: http://www.howtogeek.com/139433/how-to-turn-a-raspberry-pi-into-a-low-power-network-storage-device/
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http://www.amazon.com/EP-3701-Wireless-Access-Drive-Android/dp/B00IR5DJ4E
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Thanks, but I think I need couple of these, one for each drive, also not sure how the drives get their power or how this one is powered. If it is possible to use this with a hub, maybe it might work, but I am not sure.
In case this thing doesn't work as planned (if I can't easily get XBMC to see external drives) what would you guys recommend as a device that I can run Amazon Prime Video AND be able to access my local videos without having to run my PC 24/7 or at least having to run it whenever I want to watch something off-line.
This will allow pass-through of wifi.
http://www.staples.com/Kingston-MobileLite-Wireless-Flash-Reader/product_195697
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http://www.amazon.com/EP-3701-Wireless-Access-Drive-Android/dp/B00IR5DJ4E
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It do want to point out that these wireless dongles that connect to the external HD need the option to work in infrastructure mode & not in ad-hoc mode (peer to peer).
If they strictly work in ad-hoc mode then you'll only be able to connect to the ad-hoc device (in this case whatever is physically connected to the dongle), which means you won't be able to connect to your home's wireless network at the same. In others words you'll have to disconnect & then reconnect to each different wireless connection as needed.
"An ad hoc network is one where computers connect directly to each other on a one-to-one basis. This is useful for impromptu file sharing between two computers. An infrastructure network is one where computers connect to a shared access point. This kind of connection is useful when sharing a printer, Internet connection, and/or file sharing server." - via Amazons Q&A page.
adfurgerson said:
This will allow pass-through of wifi.
http://www.staples.com/Kingston-MobileLite-Wireless-Flash-Reader/product_195697
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Thanks for the suggestion, but it seems like this is a one-to-one connection. Sort of like how new "wifi" cameras worked until they changed the way they work, they could only act as hotspot so you could get pictures from your camera with direct connection from PC and not via router.
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It do want to point out that these wireless dongles that connect to the external HD need the option to work in infrastructure mode & not in ad-hoc mode (peer to peer).
If they strictly work in ad-hoc mode then you'll only be able to connect to the ad-hoc device (in this case whatever is physically connected to the dongle), which means you won't be able to connect to your home's wireless network at the same. In others words you'll have to disconnect & then reconnect to each different wireless connection as needed.
"An ad hoc network is one where computers connect directly to each other on a one-to-one basis. This is useful for impromptu file sharing between two computers. An infrastructure network is one where computers connect to a shared access point. This kind of connection is useful when sharing a printer, Internet connection, and/or file sharing server." - via Amazons Q&A page.
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I don't understand why they can't just make these devices with an ethernet port instead... That would solve the problem.
hydeah said:
Thanks for the suggestion, but it seems like this is a one-to-one connection. Sort of like how new "wifi" cameras worked until they changed the way they work, they could only act as hotspot so you could get pictures from your camera with direct connection from PC and not via router.
I don't understand why they can't just make these devices with an ethernet port instead... That would solve the problem.
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Look here for where it says "create an Internet briigde to access the web" http://www.kingston.com/us/wireless/wireless_readers#mlw221
or check out the app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kingston.mobilelite&hl=en
or download the user manual
https://www.google.com/url?q=https:...g&sa=D&usg=AFQjCNFYGaP4eemi_KkjPmUYtyB_aVr15g
I know this feature works as I have used it myself, but the only storage that I have used are thumb drives and sd cards.
It is supposed to work with USB hard drives up to 1tb but I don't have any to test with.
Edit....the G2 model.has an ethernet port. In the questions section someone replied that the G2 will work with 2tb HD's and I see that up to eight devices can hook to it rather than only three.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KU2E9IW?tag=wwwkingstonco-20
Pogo with archlinux
The Pogoplug e02 hacked with archlinux and minidlna works nice. Cost 20$ on amazon, a bit slow but gets the work done.
adfurgerson said:
Look here for where it says "create an Internet briigde to access the web" http://www.kingston.com/us/wireless/wireless_readers#mlw221
or check out the app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kingston.mobilelite&hl=en
or download the user manual
https://www.google.com/url?q=https:...g&sa=D&usg=AFQjCNFYGaP4eemi_KkjPmUYtyB_aVr15g
I know this feature works as I have used it myself, but the only storage that I have used are thumb drives and sd cards.
It is supposed to work with USB hard drives up to 1tb but I don't have any to test with.
Edit....the G2 model.has an ethernet port. In the questions section someone replied that the G2 will work with 2tb HD's and I see that up to eight devices can hook to it rather than only three.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KU2E9IW?tag=wwwkingstonco-20
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Is the app only way to change settings or access the device? Does it have SMB or DLNA type file server? Every single device shown on their product page is either a phone or a tablet, how do you get your data on Windows (it lists windows as compatible)?
It also says "For Android and Kindle Fire, video support is limited to 2GB." I believe that doesn't matter if we use XBMC on any device including Android based Fire Stick, right?
Found the video here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tQ1GRf38e8
Thanks, the G2 model's ethernet port is acting as WAN port to turn wired connection to wireless, so only way to connect with this device locally is still wireless, which is still OK since it seems like this is the only device that can do this. I have 3 devices, varying from 500 to 2TB so it sounds like I definitely need G2.
hydeah said:
Is the app only way to change settings or access the device? Does it have SMB or DLNA type file server? Every single device shown on their product page is either a phone or a tablet, how do you get your data on Windows (it lists windows as compatible)?
It also says "For Android and Kindle Fire, video support is limited to 2GB." I believe that doesn't matter if we use XBMC on any device including Android based Fire Stick, right?
Found the video here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tQ1GRf38e8
Thanks, the G2 model's ethernet port is acting as WAN port to turn wired connection to wireless, so only way to connect with this device locally is still wireless, which is still OK since it seems like this is the only device that can do this. I have 3 devices, varying from 500 to 2TB so it sounds like I definitely need G2.
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I have to admit it was an impulse buy from Staples store and other than connecting to it to make sure it worked I haven't used it at all. Sorry I can't answer any more questions, but in the question section of Amazon for the G2 there were responses from a Kingston agent named Jewell and she gave this at the end " For any further assistance, please call us at 1-800-435-0640 (USA and Canada only) M - F 6am - 6pm PT and I or another available Technician will assist you. Thank you for choosing Kingston".
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I have to admit it was an impulse buy from Staples store and other than connecting to it to make sure it worked I haven't used it at all. Sorry I can't answer any more questions, but in the question section of Amazon for the G2 there were responses from a Kingston agent named Jewell and she gave this at the end " For any further assistance, please call us at 1-800-435-0640 (USA and Canada only) M - F 6am - 6pm PT and I or another available Technician will assist you. Thank you for choosing Kingston".
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Sorry! It sounds like I overwhelmed you with my question, which I admit might have been excessive. :angel:
I'll check out more info on Amazon.
Also found this:
http://www.amazon.com/Cirago-International-NUS2000-CiragoLink-Network/dp/B005C31H34