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Hi guys, i have just gotten my desire sometime back, been exploring it and recently downloaded a awesome apps call JetVD that allows me to download 720P videos from youtube directly to my desire.
However, after downloading, when trying to play the video using default player mzxing player, rockplayer, astroplayer, all i get is a black screen but the audio is actually running fine...just want to check if 720p playback is supported on the desire??
I am running android 2.1.
advice please. thanks millions.
well, i've played back 720p vids, but not at it's proper framerate. i assume that since the 720p recording we get it a low fps version, then the playback is also limited
Is this going to be fixed in the official 2.2?
who knows. we'll have to wait and see.
i assume not though
I've played succesfully 720p H.264 baseline L3.1 @ 8000kbps in MP4 container without any perfomance problem, so the device is indeed able to play 720p videos.
I have played 720 from youtube on the Desire just fine. I must say though... don't try the 1080p...lol. It ATTEMPTS to play it, but, well... it's just a mess. lol.
Hello,
I'm having some problems about playing 720p videos from HTC Desire Z. It plays some 720p videos smoothly which are recorded by itself (also there is a fps problem in there, some are about 19fps).
I wonder which {container, codec} we should use to play 720p videos smooth. I tried with several media players like Vplayer, Moboplayer, Rockplayer and Android's default media player.
I tried some files. Here their properties:
Container: MKV
Video Codec: H264
Audio Codec: AC3
Overall Bitrate: ~4.5Mbps
Length: 71min
Size: 2.2GB
This was a concert video.
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Container: MKV
Video Codec: H264
Audio Codec: AC3
Overall Bitrate: ~4.5Mbps
Length: 40min
Size: 1.1GB
This was a tv show.
Rockplayer can play this videos but not smooth enough. It freezes for 5-10 milliseconds at every 1-2 seconds.
Using stock 2.3.3 ROM and stock SD Card.
Phone can play 480p videos smoothly but I think it can play 720p videos since it can record 720p videos.
Thanks in advance.
The DZ isn't actually powerful enough to play 720p videos from an external source. I can barely play 480p AVI smoothly. MKV and MP4 are a total lost cause for me. Haven't tried after I installed Virtuous 2.0 and had it OC'd to 1.5GHz though.
ArmedandDangerous said:
The DZ isn't actually powerful enough to play 720p videos from an external source. I can barely play 480p AVI smoothly. MKV and MP4 are a total lost cause for me. Haven't tried after I installed Virtuous 2.0 and had it OC'd to 1.5GHz though.
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As far as I know, DZ has hardware decoding for 720p videos. So it can play 720p videos and DZ records with 8mbps and encodes with h264 and its container is 3gp. Only difference is container. Maybe changing container will fix this but I tried with avi, mkv. Maybe I should try with 3gp container.
Anyone tried?
Try dice player
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tcchuin said:
Try dice player
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Tried with its trial version but it says "sorry, this video can not be played" when i try to play video which I mentioned at my first post (tv show one) and also another video which is a mp4 video.
DicePlayer can not play any video in the phone
I use Rock Player Lite and it can play MP4 vids properly. Granted, I just OC'd my DZ to 1.5GHz, and an MP4 file encoded in h.264 with an average bitrate of 1.5kbps plays flawlessly. At stock speeds the audio goes out of sync and artefacts get introduced. Haven't tried MKV files since I OC'd yet though. Software decoding in RPL.
Hardware decode basically is the same as the default media player, software decoding takes up more CPU resources, but is able to play more formats and containers.
I haven't found any way to reliably open mkv container on desire z. MX video player by far does the best job (and yes, I've used other players like rockplayer, dice player, etc) but it still plays 720p mkv h264 slightly choppy. 720p h264 mp4 plays fine with software and hardware decoder, while 720 avi xvid can play smoothly on a small overclock.
I try to avoid 720 anyway because the difference between 720 and 480 on a 3.7inch screen is barely visible to me lol
Exactly lol. As long as it can play 480 on the DZ it's more than fine by me. 720p on a 480x800 screen... ~_~
MX Video Player.. Never heard of it. Gonna search and try that out. How does it compare to Rock Player?
i really liked rockplayer for a long time until i found out mx player had software codecs tweaked for ARMv7. Check it out on the market, its free anyway lol
I tried mx player but still there is the same problem.
I also tried to change the container to mp4. PC plays well but when I try to play on phone, video is smooth but there is no sound and audio codec is ac3. Maybe the problem is here.
I tried with rockplayer using software decoding, there is sound but laggy video.
Try MX with SW. Works fine on any container and format so far for me.
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Try MX with SW. Works fine on any container and format so far for me.
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Tried in 3 available mode in MX Player but still laggy video
The trick is to use video in the correct settings for the hardware decoder. If you do that then it won't matter if it's in mkv or mp4.
For the video portion, use baseline profile h.264 with the maximum bitrate (VBV) capped at 8mbps up to 720p
For audio, use AAC-LC in stereo.
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ChronoReverse said:
The trick is to use video in the correct settings for the hardware decoder. If you do that then it won't matter if it's in mkv or mp4.
For the video portion, use baseline profile h.264 with the maximum bitrate (VBV) capped at 8mbps up to 720p
For audio, use AAC-LC in stereo.
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I think so. But there is a problem when playing MKV files. There is problem after I changed container to mp4, though.
But the audio codecs of videos which I tried are not AAC. Maybe this causes the problem.
I don't know, how hard can it be to play videos which have AAC audios.
Use Handbrake to encode and it'll be easy to specify AAC for audio. You can use the iphone profile for encoding.
Hi again,
I've solved my problem. I use dice player which plays 720p mkv videos (even with ac3 audio codec).
I wrote here dice player can't play any video in the phone. That was a hardware decoding problem, I think. When I try to play an unsupported video format with hardware decoding, hardware decoding crashes and unable to play videos as it should be.
So, after that if I restart the phone hardware decoding comes back and plays videos perfectly.
Is this a common issue? If it is not should I do a factory reset to my phone?
To be honest, with our default 800*480 screen, we would not be able to take advantage of 720p quality as 720p is 1280*720 (Unless we stream it to a HDTV or Monitor). Re-encoding it to 800*450 is wiser to conserve file size as well
found this recommended settings at afterdawn for Handbrake or MEGUI. Tried it with rockplayer hardware decoding and it is smooth i used mp4 format
full link is here http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/converting_video_for_the_htc_desire_z.cfm
Code:
Recommended Video Options
Format H.264 (MPEG-4 AVC)
Profile Baseline
Level 3
Average Bitrate 800kbps - 1800kbps
Max Resolution 800×480 @ 24fps
800×480 @ 25fps
800×432 @ 30fps
768×448 @ 30fps
720×480 @ 30fps
Maximum GOP Length 250
Minimum GOP Length 25
B-frames None
CABAC Off
Other Recommended Settings
Audio Format AAC
Audio Channels 2
Audio Bitrate 128kbps - 256kbps
Container (File Type) MP4*
Subtitle Format Timed Text or SRT **
Hello, my friends. I'm currently using ICS Arconium ROM (.64 baseband) in My Arc S and I'd like to know if is there possible to run mkv hd (720p) videos (movies, series etc) smoothly. When I try to do so, most of the times it goes laggy. Is there any app or tweak to fix this? Thanks.
Try MX Video Player, i can play my video smoothly with it
I tried this player, but it doesn't work very well here. It keeps laggy. I heard that DICEPLAYER is the best mkv player for android, and I just bought it (about 6 dollars), but when I start it, it crashes... =\ Thank you anyway
I have tried 1080p streams on the phone, and it was smooth, but I had the stock ROM when I tested that.
I believe our phone doesn't support .mkv out-of-the-box(correct me, if wrong), but you can get it work with RockPlayer(also plays .avis!)
I am using vplayer which can play most of the file formats.
I tested all of these, guys... Not successfully =\ Some of them screw up the subtitles (my native language is portuguese, they doesn't accept characters as ^ ´ ´ ~ etc) and in ALL of them mkv doesn't work well. I think that Arc S has a strong enough processor to run this format without any lag, but it's not working...
You can try MoboPlayer. But make sure, that you Enable "Soft decoding" in menu. If still doesn't work, you should try to download "MoboPlayer codecs" but you must download right version for arc S prosessor. I think it is ARMV7VFP3 but I am not sure of that.
Just tried Moboplayer... But no changes.
I'm sure that my Arc S is powerful enough to run this kind of video, but it's not working fine. The video/audio are pretty out of sync... The audio runs normal, but the video gets slow and/or laggy. I tried overclocking my processor to almost 2Ghz, but for nothing.
I contacted the developer of DicePlayer and he responded... He provided me with a working version of the app (no crash when starting), but the lag/sync problem continued.
See what he said: "I may need to check with the device, but currently I don't have the device. In my opinion, ICS needs more heap memory than Gingerbread, so the main problem is from lack of memory. Anyway I'll check it and try to resolve the playback issue."
Obviously the Arc S processor is nor guilty for the lag, but possibly the low level. Maybe a memory optimizer will answer my problem?
New response:
Hi,
The single core Qualcomm chipset has some weak point to decode the H.264 MP/HP video frames, so it may depend on the video files. I don't know that is the reason or not. I'll check the issue when I get the device, but I don't know when it is.
We can watch mkv videos @720p with hardware acceleration but most of the films and shows are encoded with profile level 4.1 and our phone can play only videos with profile 3.1/4.0. This levels can be changed within 1 second using H264LevelEditor. I always change it to 3.1 and almost every movie is running perfectly. With 4.0 I can't get it to play. But even with this change I couldn't play one video. Don't know why but the only one difference I noticed was "Format settings, ReFrames". Sometimes it is 5 frames and someetime 8 or 9. But dunno if it's the problem
I use diceplayer on arconium 7.2 with latest doomkernel.
btw. It was discussed before. Use search next time.
4.1, 4.0 or 3.1 or even 3.0 mkv 720p videos are running exacly the same way... It plays, the audio is OK but the video is laggy and slow, what makes them become out of sync with the audio...
Because you are playing videos with app that plays it in software mode, not in hardware mode. It's normal that phone can't decode 720p video with software mode. You need to get videos to play in hardware mode. BSplayer has it's own hardware support but it's still not what it's suppouse to be. The only app that play in hardware mode mkv videos with profile level 3.1 for me is DicePlayer. And it's doing it without any glitches or lags. It's perfectly A/V synced
I bought DicePlayer yesterday, I'm running my videos on it. All levels are now in 3.1, and I realized that some of them run in SW mode, and some in HW mode. When it runs in hardware mode, everything goes pretty fine... When in software mode, I get the problems. How can I "force" HW mode? Is there a way? Thanks.
You can't force hardware mode. I don't know why some videos can't be played. It must be something with encoding videos, some settings. You can compare parameters of videos that are working with those played in software mode. There must be some difference and maybe there is a way to change it fast.
I also use MX Video Player with the additional codec on my LT15i but experience no lagg at all.
I watch mostly The Walking Dead in 720p MKV
I am at 1.5 GHZ on doomkernel so maybe you could consider overclocking.
Greetz
MX player. No lag at all. I am watching Bleach episode right now
Alright, some updates.
All my mkv files are level 3.1 level now... But still some of them can't run in HW mode. The video starts to play (diceplayer, of course) in HW mode but 1 second later it gets an error and returns to SW (laggy) mode. Half of my 720p mkv videos can run like a dream in hardware decoding (3.1 level), but some of them just can't, even in 3.1 level.
For example, The.Big.Bang.Theory.S05E05.720p.HDTV.X264-DIMENSION can run very smoothly. Hardware deconding. Butt The.Big.Bang.Theory.S05E17.720p.HDTV.X264-DIMENSION can't do the same, it goes only in SW.
What's the difference?!?! What else can I change?
Thanks.
Maybe is because your video was compiled in 10bits, nothing to do until somebody releases a player that supports 10bits well
But you can try MOBO, it lags at the start but after 2mins start running normal
I think you have to play it with MoboPlayer dude
Hey, I'm not sure if I had already posted this before but it didn't show up under similar threads.
What is the best setting to convert videos so that my arc S can play it flawlessly?
So far the settings that I've tried always makes the video a little choppy here and there. Any help would be appreciated since I really want to use my arc S to watch movies on my travels.
The settings that I need would be
1) Resolution Size
2) Frame Rate
3) Bitrate
4) What file type and etc.
Thanks
P.S. If you can share what program you use and put a download link that would be great.
i used to convert videos using these settings
resolution: 854x480, must fit arc's screen
frame rate: 30fps
bitrate: >1.5Mbps is fine to me
encoded in H.264, mp4 format
audio: AAC 128Kbps
i was using cyberlink media espresso
for freeware try http://www.hamstersoft.com/free-video-converter which supports hardware acceleration
how was the quality when it played on the arc?
heihei_ivan said:
i used to convert videos using these settings
resolution: 854x480, must fit arc's screen
frame rate: 30fps
bitrate: >1.5Mbps is fine to me
encoded in H.264, mp4 format
audio: AAC 128Kbps
i was using cyberlink media espresso
for freeware try http://www.hamstersoft.com/free-video-converter which supports hardware acceleration
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Yes, you will have the best quailty playback if you set the resolution as 854x480.
Because the full resolution of arc is 854x480. If you have a video which the resolution is 1280x720, it will only play as 854x480 on the arc's screen.
mp4 is a good format of video to play on arc, too. because it can decode mp4 video using the hardware but not the software, so you can play mp4 smoother than other formats.
If you aim at best quality, then set higher bitrate say >3Mbps, but not too much because it will cause lag
I tried 1280*720 with 10Mbps @ mp4. Worked fine.
I've been using MoboPlayer and it works well. It's been playing all files that I've thrown at it without hiccups.
Today I tried to play Game of Thrones 720p.mkv video on my arc S, and it was't really smooth. It lagged a lot. I tried vPlayer and MoboPlayer, and neither of them worked.
So, what can I do, exept thah I convent video?
Sorry for my bad English.
EDIT:Nevermind, just tried DicePlayer, and it plays very well.
my xperia arc s doesnt support h264 video. is there any mod for that
my xperia arc s doesnt support h264 video. is there any mod for that.
i tested it on official ics and ultimate hd both rom.
many thanks
Hi,
I was just curious as to why the Full HD 1080p videos (for e.g. H.264 trailers from Apple) refuse to play smoothly on any CM9 and CM10 custom ROMs (with Moboplayer, Acer Media), while the same videos play buttery smooth with the same players on the official stock ROM? Do I need to tweak any settings or install any add ons in the custom ROMs to enable such playback. I am assuming that it is a hardware-acceleration issue because the setting for software decoding in Moboplayer has been turned off. However, 720p videos play fine.
Thanks.
rockthegod said:
Hi,
I was just curious as to why the Full HD 1080p videos (for e.g. H.264 trailers from Apple) refuse to play smoothly on any CM9 and CM10 custom ROMs (with Moboplayer, Acer Media), while the same videos play buttery smooth with the same players on the official stock ROM? Do I need to tweak any settings or install any add ons in the custom ROMs to enable such playback. I am assuming that it is a hardware-acceleration issue because the setting for software decoding in Moboplayer has been turned off. However, 720p videos play fine.
Thanks.
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Never had this issue, 1080 plays fine for me. Is this over HDMI or doesn't matter, just always? I use dice player and occasionally mx player, both play OK for me.
Some are encoded differently then others so some may need a bump up in CPU frequency but most generally play fine at 1ghz with deadline. Of course this is my device with my movies on my build, any number of things vary between the files and roms and players used.
Tapatalked from my Galaxy S II.
Thanks..
pio_masaki said:
Never had this issue, 1080 plays fine for me. Is this over HDMI or doesn't matter, just always? I use dice player and occasionally mx player, both play OK for me.
Some are encoded differently then others so some may need a bump up in CPU frequency but most generally play fine at 1ghz with deadline. Of course this is my device with my movies on my build, any number of things vary between the files and roms and players used.
Tapatalked from my Galaxy S II.
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OMG Thanks.. DicePlayer works like a charm. :good: :good: :laugh: The files I use for standard video play testing are Apple Movie Trailers 1080p H.264 / AAC 6 channel MOV files.
Now I am observing a very interesting development in the latest CM10 preview. Acer Media and Acer Video Player won't even detect the MOV video files. MoboPlayer and MxPlayer detects the videos but shows laggy playback on the device screen as well as over HDMI.
Only DicePlayer plays them like a charm, without hiccups or lags and going to be the only player I will ever use from now on. I think the issue is probably some proprietary codec related because when I am on the official ICS ROM, all these players detect and play those same MOV files smoothly both on-screen as well as over HDMI ..
Glad it works for you, it seems to "force" hw decode more reliably then other players so far and seems almost infinite in what it will play. MX in fast software fills in where dice fails for me, which is rare. MX seems to handle web streams better though.
Tapatalked from my Galaxy S II.