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mem info?

i just checked and its at 128/413?
is that even normal that doesn't sound right

bongholio said:
i just checked and its at 128/413?
is that even normal that doesn't sound right
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Internal storage?
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newtoroot said:
Internal storage?
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I think he's talking about the RAM. Android manages memory different than OS X or Windows. Full is actually good. People are always going overboard with task killers trying to free up RAM. Android will free up RAM as necessary, so you really shouldn't ever have to worry about it. Unlike Windows when it gets full it puts memory into swap on the HDD slowing it down. Android will just quit the app, because you haven't used it in a while.
Just for reference I have 246MB available on CM7 with a fresh boot. After using it a few hours, I generally have about 90MB free on average.

[Q] How much free memory do you have?

I´m just curious here, how much memory do you have free on your phone?
Mine are 148 MB free ROM and 281 MB free RAM.
Does this in anyway correlate to how fast games run?
Bring me some of your numbers! =)

the xperia play has a total of 380 MB ROM , its enough for lots of apps , and if its not , you can always move your apps to SD Card and free some space

silmes said:
I´m just curious here, how much memory do you have free on your phone?
Mine are 148 MB free ROM and 281 MB free RAM.
Does this in anyway correlate to how fast games run?
Bring me some of your numbers! =)
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More space make more speed.. if u want mor, just push your app to SDCARD..

On ics beta i have ~150m RAM
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Nxmate said:
On ics beta i have ~150m RAM
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That´s interesting. My numbers in the first post is on 4.0.2.A.0.42. I have removed apps that I deem unneccesary and want to make gaming run as speedy as possible.
I wonder if the new update will use more or less RAM than before, or if it even will be a difference?

Click the link in my signature to add more internal memory on your phones. I have about 275MB free on my internal memory now btw.

I have 52MB free

345MiB woot

86mb free. It looks like I need ti move more apps to sd.
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internal total 380mb..247mb free..use link2sd 2ext with 0.96gb total...598 free and about 180mb ram free..

About 20mb
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It's this bad
How do you guys have plenty of memory? I'm unrooted but even if I was I don't see how I could bring about drastic changes.
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anbu187 said:
Click the link in my signature to add more internal memory on your phones. I have about 275MB free on my internal memory now btw.
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Can't see anything in your sig on xda app?
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KindaUndisputed said:
It's this bad
How do you guys have plenty of memory? I'm unrooted but even if I was I don't see how I could bring about drastic changes.
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If you´re rooted you can bring about drastic changes in the memory-area, turn off stuff running in the background eating RAM-memory etc.
I have used titanium backup and deleted a lot of system apps that I don´t use. I use my phone for: Telephoning, Messaging, Surfing, Gaming (emulator), and Google Maps. Nothing more.

KindaUndisputed said:
It's this bad
How do you guys have plenty of memory? I'm unrooted but even if I was I don't see how I could bring about drastic changes.
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All I can tell you do is root and remove system apps. That frees up a lot of space. Also put everything on the sd card.

Only 150 ram on ics beta

SirDeadly said:
Only 150 ram on ics beta
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Is that it ? how the hell are we supposed to run games like Shadowgun and GTA 3 on Ice Cream Sandwich with that much free RAM ?!

sufy1000 said:
Is that it ? how the hell are we supposed to run games like Shadowgun and GTA 3 on Ice Cream Sandwich with that much free RAM ?!
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You must have a misunderstood concept of free RAM. Actually, the less free RAM you have, the faster your apps get. This free RAM is consumed by cached processes invisible to anything else that is not a system app. You can go to the Free RAM screen, press Menu and select Show Cached Processes to see your true free RAM. The more cached RAM there is, the faster it gets. I remember someone here at these forums actually posted the difference between "free" and free RAM, can't remember though. The Xperia Play can run BOTH of them at the same time, just like an iPhone 4S, especially if you are supercharged.
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320 could be 360 if I flash the 40mb increase. No apps on SD
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Also using Link2sd with a 2ext 1gb partition(575mb used/443mb free). Internal memory's at 201mb free. RAM is ~200(240 on boot, settles around 202).
-Stock R800x 2.3.3 rooted w/o vzw's bloatware. Ive got zeppelinrox's v6 Supercharger update9 r7 running with option 6 and bulletproof important apps. SetCPU stock speeds, just some profiles. Dalvik linked to sd as well.
I've gotta say it took some tweaking, but this phone is SNAPPY. All thanx to the devs here at xda. Lots of love fellas!

System memory

I've been curious about this for quite some time now. Our phone has 768mb of total ram space. I've noticed AOSP roms allow 602mb to be used and Sense gives 573mb. Is it possible to substitute system memory for ram enabling more free ram for our device?
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eriknors said:
I've been curious about this for quite some time now. Our phone has 768mb of total ram space. I've noticed AOSP roms allow 602mb to be used and Sense gives 573mb. Is it possible to substitute system memory for ram enabling more free ram for our device?
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Substitute system memory for ram? You mean like a pagefile on windoze? Or just freeing up more ram? Not really following what you mean.
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Ok I know "x" amount of ram is required to run a rom. What I wanna know is can any of that be transferred into say the system memory so that instead of having only 573mb of 768mb we could have something like say 625mb of our 768mb? I guess I should of clarified earlier.
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eriknors said:
Ok I know "x" amount of ram is required to run a rom. What I wanna know is can any of that be transferred into say the system memory so that instead of having only 573mb of 768mb we could have something like say 625mb of our 768mb? I guess I should of clarified earlier.
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Like for example, virtual memory in windows, it uses the hard drive to hold running processes, though it may be slower....it works....sort of lol
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Triscuit said:
Like for example, virtual memory in windows, it uses the hard drive to hold running processes, though it may be slower....it works....sort of lol
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Yes like vm in windows. So it wouldn't speed up our phones if this was done? That is what I was trying to accomplish by all of this in the first place. I figured if I was able to make the RAM larger in size overall that would in turn allow bigger apps to run smoother. I know there's a lot more at play like processor speed and kernel but its just a thought
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eriknors said:
Yes like vm in windows. So it wouldn't speed up our phones if this was done? That is what I was trying to accomplish by all of this in the first place. I figured if I was able to make the RAM larger in size overall that would in turn allow bigger apps to run smoother. I know there's a lot more at play like processor speed and kernel but its just a thought
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I'm not saying it will run slower, I don't have the knowledge to tell you if it would improve things or not. Just making it easier to understand
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Haven't really looked at it, but it depends on whether we use up all the RAM often, and I don't think we do.
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I think NO.. we can only adjust CPU frequency though

My knowledge of linux is very limited, but I think that you are thinking of it too much like Windows. In Windows more free ram means better performance. That is because Windows doesn't kill processes that aren't being used when ram is needed, instead it uses vm to allow the program to run.Android will kill processes that aren't in use if additional ram is needed so vm is not necessary. This means that performance isn't really effected by free ram.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong here.
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cstone1991 said:
My knowledge of linux is very limited, but I think that you are thinking of it too much like Windows. In Windows more free ram means better performance. That is because Windows doesn't kill processes that aren't being used when ram is needed, instead it uses vm to allow the program to run.Android will kill processes that aren't in use if additional ram is needed so vm is not necessary. This means that performance isn't really effected by free ram.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong here.
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I also thought the other way before. But after some googling I also found that linux is something like that.
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cstone1991 said:
My knowledge of linux is very limited, but I think that you are thinking of it too much like Windows. In Windows more free ram means better performance. That is because Windows doesn't kill processes that aren't being used when ram is needed, instead it uses vm to allow the program to run.Android will kill processes that aren't in use if additional ram is needed so vm is not necessary. This means that performance isn't really effected by free ram.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong here.
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After a crash course in Linux over the past couple days I've learned that u r right my friend. I guess I was to caught up in thinking it was like windows.
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eriknors said:
After a crash course in Linux over the past couple days I've learned that u r right my friend. I guess I was to caught up in thinking it was like windows.
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No worries. I think most people here think the same way because most of us use Windows. I wouldn't have known differently if I hadn't read it previously on here. That's the same reason why task killers are bad.
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Android puts background processes that arent running in the foreground in cache memory, that way it's not eating up ram like if it was still running but since its in the cache, if you open the program though it will still come up quickly since it is cached, only certain programs that are frequently used are like that though...
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[Q] Free up Ram

I'm running AOKP build 5 and I was wondering what's the best way to clear up some ram on my phone, make it run faster. I close apps when I'm not using it and I'm on stock kernel...maybe different kernel....? Any advice would be nice. Thanks in advance.
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The topics don't correlate. When Android needs more RAM, it'll close applications automatically - that being said, your speed issue isn't RAM related.

fast reboot is a nice app to use. its kinda like a reboot but without rebooting. it frees up ram. android might free up ram on its own when needed, but it does not do a good enough job, no matter what other people say. fmr memory cleaner is also a nice app to use.
fast reboot https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.greatbytes.fastreboot&hl=en
fmr memory cleaner https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fantasmosoft.free_memory_recover&feature

sshede said:
The topics don't correlate. When Android needs more RAM, it'll close applications automatically - that being said, your speed issue isn't RAM related.
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What he said.

sshede said:
The topics don't correlate. When Android needs more RAM, it'll close applications automatically - that being said, your speed issue isn't RAM related.
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Pretty much said it all. That said unused ram isn't going to make your phone faster. If anything having more apps cached in the ram will. Unused ram is wasted ram Imo.

Thanks for the clarification guys
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how to have more RAM free space ?

how to control running background app to free more RAM on my Arc ?
i used task killer, but apps return to open again and used Autostart to limit the starting apps with system starting, but RAM is consumed by the apps running in the background.
lagging is the meaning of my ARC now.
it's very very annoying .. any help here ?!
Rom : Xperia Ultimate HD™ 2.0.3
kernel : LuPuSv9

the free RAM range always bet. 40 ~ 130

Seems normal for me. I had to disable apps i didn't really use that were using any ram =/
maybe try this script? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1928200

Go to settings - programs - all
Tap the ones you dont need and disable

Task killers waste more energy and make your phone even more laggy because you keep clearing processes from the RAM. I could explain all that but it'd take some time which I dont have now -
So I'll just say that free RAM is wasted RAM. Task killers are stupid, something else is causing the lag.
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1st .. thanx all for attention and reply.
jman2131 said:
Seems normal for me. I had to disable apps i didn't really use that were using any ram =/
maybe try this script? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1928200
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the script didn't work with me, it stopped the system.UI
i installed the apps that i use, so which apps can i remove from the system safely.
TheHaso said:
Go to settings - programs - all
Tap the ones you dont need and disable
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regarding that i install what i use.
what also can i remove ?
tangosierra_ said:
Task killers waste more energy and make your phone even more laggy because you keep clearing processes from the RAM. I could explain all that but it'd take some time which I dont have now -
So I'll just say that free RAM is wasted RAM. Task killers are stupid, something else is causing the lag.
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OK. i feel the lag obviously when closing recently using apps.
it may take more time in opening an app after recently closing another One.