From what I could tell, with the new update google changed things up quite a bit in google wallet. I was wondering if the new version will still have the secure element bricking problems.
Anyone know?
endertux said:
From what I could tell, with the new update google changed things up quite a bit in google wallet. I was wondering if the new version will still have the secure element bricking problems.
Anyone know?
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I sure hope not, after flashing the latest ROM my google wallet is completely bricked, and what is even more weird is that it also stopped google wallet from working on my tablet as well which has not had any issues until i flashed a new ROM
I do not have a Nexus but here's what I have experienced with Google Wallet. I flashed several Roms always being careful to reset wallet before doing a full wipe. Sometimes I would get stuck at the adding card phase of setup but eventually it would work. The most recent time I flashed I completely forgot to reset wallet thought I was done. But fortunately wallet setup fine and I was able to use it. I attested it to the updated app, but I'm not 100% sure. Have you tried updating to the latest wallet?
Well r96 didnt fix it for me.
Just bricked the wallet app on my note 2
Heres to if I can find a solution. Maybe I can lie my way into sprint fixing my nfc.
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One of the features I like about the GN is Google Wallet, but I want to root my device and check out all of the cool stuff associated with that.
I've read in passing elsewhere that rooting/flashing might screw up Google Wallet on the device permanently and I want to see if that was true and if there is a way to avoid it.
XDA's search is down or else I would have tried searching the forums first for my answer.
Thanks in advance.
Prior to flashing new roms open wallet > reset app.
NOT clear data from the app manager.
But actually reset app.
Personally...I've forgotten quite a few times.
And have yet to run into the secure element error.
*knock on wood*
But doing so will ensure you don't either.
I still consider myself a noob, and with my inexperience i too have yet to mess up the secure element by flashing different roms. I should knock on wood as well. If you follow Jubakuba's directions you will be fine. This is how i do it everytime too now.
Jubakuba said:
Prior to flashing new roms open wallet > reset app.
NOT clear data from the app manager.
But actually reset app.
Personally...I've forgotten quite a few times.
And have yet to run into the secure element error.
*knock on wood*
But doing so will ensure you don't either.
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Is that an option within the app itself or is that a system option?
In the app itself.
It clears this embedded "secure element" that is causing problems.
Yup been flashing roms and paying for Google wallet everything working fine so far!!
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Awesome, thanks!
So I saw on DL today that if you wipe your phone, your NFC stops working? Did I read that correctly? I just got my (VZW) nexus yesterday and as soon as I got home I rooted and wiped and ROMed it. I didn't install Google wallet prior to wiping and I still haven't installed it. Did I screw up my NFC?
Thanks
I read that today too after already rooting and throwing on a rom. I had been meaning to set up wallet but hadn't yet. So when I saw that I figured I'd give it a shot and see if it works. It did and I got my free $10 credit.
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I wonder this too. It would seem to me that if you never setup wallet in the first place, there's no reason the secure element could be disabled (for lack of a better phrase). But since I have had this phone long, I'm not sure.
But I did root -> wipe -> install AOKP and wallet didn't complain, but after flashing a new kernel, I got an unsupported device warning.
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geoffcorey said:
I wonder this too. It would seem to me that if you never setup wallet in the first place, there's no reason the secure element could be disabled (for lack of a better phrase). But since I have had this phone long, I'm not sure.
But I did root -> wipe -> install AOKP and wallet didn't complain, but after flashing a new kernel, I got an unsupported device warning.
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The unsupported device warning shows if you're rooted.
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The suggested practice for doing a wipe is to go to the Wallet App- Settings- reset Wallet. Then do your wipe or flash as usual.
Haven't tested it either way. Just passing along useful info.
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If you have setup google wallet and then wipe and flash a new rom there is the possibility of killing your secure element. It is suggested to reset wallet within the wallet app before wiping and flashing a new rom.
There is a huge thread in the galaxy apps forum that is usually within the first few pages.
A simple wipe will not affect NFC.
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streetlightman said:
So I saw on DL today that if you wipe your phone, your NFC stops working? Did I read that correctly? I just got my (VZW) nexus yesterday and as soon as I got home I rooted and wiped and ROMed it. I didn't install Google wallet prior to wiping and I still haven't installed it. Did I screw up my NFC?
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Wiping does not ruin your NFC. What these articles were talking about is wiping and flashing a new ROM without first de-authorizing your Google Wallet app/account. Its a security measure that once the phone has been wiped w/o first de-activating it won't respond to Google Wallet anymore.
Just de-authorize your Google Wallet app before wiping and switching ROMs and you're fine.
I really wish people would understand the difference between NFC, which is the connection standard and radio in your phone to initiate data transfers... and Google Wallet, which is just an app that uses NFC to make mobile payments.
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Wiping does not ruin your NFC. What these articles were talking about is wiping and flashing a new ROM without first de-authorizing your Google Wallet app/account. Its a security measure that once the phone has been wiped w/o first de-activating it won't respond to Google Wallet anymore.
Just de-authorize your Google Wallet app before wiping and switching ROMs and you're fine.
I really wish people would understand the difference between NFC, which is the connection standard and radio in your phone to initiate data transfers... and Google Wallet, which is just an app that uses NFC to make mobile payments.
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well i guess the question i'm asking is: if i've NEVER set up google wallet in the past and have previously wiped, will google wallet be affected?
streetlightman said:
well i guess the question i'm asking is: if i've NEVER set up google wallet in the past and have previously wiped, will google wallet be affected?
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I believe the answer is no.
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streetlightman said:
well i guess the question i'm asking is: if i've NEVER set up google wallet in the past and have previously wiped, will google wallet be affected?
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No... theres was no Google Wallet data to wipe and deauthorize in the first place lol.
That's cool, I haven't set up Google wallet yet and wiped about a dozen times already.
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well i guess the question i'm asking is: if i've NEVER set up google wallet in the past and have previously wiped, will google wallet be affected?
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From what I can tell you should be fine, I did a factory reset right after I got my Galaxy Nexus never having set up Wallet at the time and from what i can tell nothing went rotten on me i.e. no errors when I launch Google wallet. Haven't tried to make a payment though which I should do soon apparently there's a 2 dollar a month upkeep fee on the Google prepaid card if you don't touch it for a 30 day period running on a tangent now, cheers!
Many figured out on the HTC EVO 4G LTE forums that Google Wallet and root don't mix as well as me seeing the same "unsupported device" on a new android device. So here is the quick fix until someone can verify someone elses modified Google Wallet apk will work on our device.
Posted by Dark_shadow70 (the method of the quick fix has been found by many)
if you are rooted and you're using google wallet you'll see an unsupported device warning, wallet still works but it's annoying.,
here's what I did.
Make sure you wallet is not been setup, if it has, reset it to factory.
before you start wallet,disable super user (I'm running super SU v0.93)
(open super SU,settings, UNCHECK enable super SU)
setup wallet until you see your balance and the wallet is activated.
exit wallet.
enable super SU
open wallet, set it up and that's all, it worked for me, I hope it works for you..!
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The other question is can anyone confirm their NFC chips on their tablet is fine after flashing a rom? On the Evo's side, their chips were ruined if they didn't clear the settings before flashing a new rom.
kmyerslp said:
The other question is can anyone confirm their NFC chips on their tablet is fine after flashing a rom? On the Evo's side, their chips were ruined if they didn't clear the settings before flashing a new rom.
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You should always reset wallet from within wallet before flashing new rom's. The same thing happens on the Galaxy Nexus - secure element errors.
Wallet works fine with root. The only difference is the notification at the top, but it still functions the same.
You're saying to not flash a rom until you clear wallet data?
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Don't flash a rom or update on if you use Google wallet without going into the wallet app and using the built in clear settings (If you wipe app data you will not be able to use wallet any more)
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wallet works fine with root, you just don't get any support if you have issues.
Google Wallet no longer shows up in play after rooting jr003d.
i'm not sure if this is the right place to be asking this, but here goes.
so i had a modified version of Google Wallet installed on my rooted Galaxy Nexus. well, i then started to prep the phone to be sold, so i wiped the phone, and flashed a ROM. not realizing until after that i guess there's some weird authentication things with Google Wallet? or something?
well anyways, i didn't make a nandroid backup because my primary device is my (non-rooted) Galaxy S3.and so my Galaxy Nexus was more like a music and games player with a working Google Wallet.
i haven't tried this yet, but would i be able to install Google Wallet again on the phone, then unlink/reset it, and then wipe the phone?
mrhomiec said:
i'm not sure if this is the right place to be asking this, but here goes.
so i had a modified version of Google Wallet installed on my rooted Galaxy Nexus. well, i then started to prep the phone to be sold, so i wiped the phone, and flashed a ROM. not realizing until after that i guess there's some weird authentication things with Google Wallet? or something?
well anyways, i didn't make a nandroid backup because my primary device is my (non-rooted) Galaxy S3.and so my Galaxy Nexus was more like a music and games player with a working Google Wallet.
i haven't tried this yet, but would i be able to install Google Wallet again on the phone, then unlink/reset it, and then wipe the phone?
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google wallet is unique to the device b/c of the 'secure element'. If you didn't break the secure element, then a re-install of wallet should be fine.
You may have just encountered the secure element error where you didn't restore Google Wallet completely before you wiped your device. If that really is the case, you won't be able to use Google Wallet on it ever again unless somebody devises a fix for it.
I tried to install Google wallet to the phone on the same ROM and different ROMS.
I'm getting the your device isn't supported error now. I've tried 2 different APK files, and I can't download it from Play store.
Any suggestions?
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Device isn't supported just means that you are rooted - doesn't effect functionality...
Correct unsupported device is normal, that means your phone is rooted and money market is not responsible for any loss of money because they feel that a rooted device is less secure. The secure element issue is when your device is broken and the wallet will never work again. At this point your perfectly fine and just like everyone else. If you flash stock and lock the bootloader your unsupported device message should go away.
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the only thing that weirds me out though, is that i had Google Wallet working on it while rooted, but now it's not working.
before, when it was working, that dialog would come up, but then still let me use the app. now it's just auto closing after the alert dialog.
guess i shouldn't worry about it too much since i'm trying to sell it.
Please see wallet.google.com
You can remove all devices, and as soon as the device opens the Google Wallet app, it blows itself up!
Well, since we haven't seen a full restore available for MA7 I'm going to do what I did with MA5 and make one clicks for all but the modem.
If the situation changes I'll repost with new one clicks.
[ROM][ODIN][TAR]SPH-L900 MA7 (MA7 Modem/Kernel/ROM - Stock) - SXTP Developers
NOTE: THIS THREAD WILL NOT BE MAINTAINED ANY FURTHER BY OP AS IT HAS A MORE CURRENT VERSION AVAILABLE.
PLEASE CONTACT IF THERE ARE ANY ISSUES. THANK YOU.
Cool nice to see you on the job...
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Faaaaaannnn-tastic.
Awesome!
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Please mention this in your instructions, it's very, very important for Google Wallet users:
Before wiping your current ROM, you MUST reset your Google Wallet app by going into Settings --> Reset Google Wallet in the Wallet app, or you will permanently lock out your secure element and will never be able to use Google Wallet again - you will have to get a new phone!
This is because your Google Wallet app is married to the secure element with a unique crypto key when you first set up Google Wallet on your phone and if you wipe your phone without first resetting Google Wallet, that key will be lost forever, rendering the secure element useless.
Performing a Google Wallet reset will unmarry the app from the secure element and reset it to its original state so that it can accept a new Google Wallet installation when you wipe your phone and then restore it to stock.
siraltus said:
Please mention this in your instructions, it's very, very important for Google Wallet users:
Before wiping your current ROM, you MUST reset your Google Wallet app by going into Settings --> Reset Google Wallet in the Wallet app, or you will permanently lock out your secure element and will never be able to use Google Wallet again - you will have to get a new phone!
This is because your Google Wallet app is married to the secure element with a unique crypto key when you first set up Google Wallet on your phone and if you wipe your phone without first resetting Google Wallet, that key will be lost forever, rendering the secure element useless.
Performing a Google Wallet reset will unmarry the app from the secure element and reset it to its original state so that it can accept a new Google Wallet installation when you wipe your phone and then restore it to stock.
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Added here. Thanks for the heads up.
garwynn said:
Added here. Thanks for the heads up.
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No worries. I had to get another Note 2 when this happened to me... thankfully had phone insurance.
That truly happens on the Note2? I remember others saying it happens on other phones but I could never brick my secure element as I tried about a hundred times it seemed. Chalked up as one of those rumors.
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digiblur said:
That truly happens on the Note2? I remember others saying it happens on other phones but I could never brick my secure element as I tried about a hundred times it seemed. Chalked up as one of those rumors.
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It doesn't matter what phone you use, that's just how Google Wallet and the secure element work together. Google "Secure element has stopped responding" and you'll see how many people have bricked their secure element because they didn't know this.
This only happens in a very specific situation - when you go to a different ROM or do a factory reset without resetting Wallet first, in which case the secure element remains forever married to a Wallet installation that's lost.
If y
siraltus said:
It doesn't matter what phone you use, that's just how Google Wallet and the secure element work together. Google "Secure element has stopped responding" and you'll see how many people have bricked their secure element because they didn't know this.
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I remember when google wallet 1st came out it store info to the secure element and MANY Evo LTE users bricked the element when the Evo 1st came out then google pulled the wallet apk for afew weeks and switched where the info is now stored to avoid this issue...ive flashed away plenty on my evo lte and this now without reseting wallet......its an urban myth now.
Edit: Heres thelink its stored on the cloud and not the secure element
http://googlecommerce.blogspot.com/2012/08/use-any-credit-or-debit-card-with.html
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siraltus said:
It doesn't matter what phone you use, that's just how Google Wallet and the secure element work together. Google "Secure element has stopped responding" and you'll see how many people have bricked their secure element because they didn't know this.
This only happens in a very specific situation - when you go to a different ROM or do a factory reset without resetting Wallet first, in which case the secure element remains forever married to a Wallet installation that's lost.
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Except that's not true because many people have done both of those many times and it still worked fine. I have myself.
And, people have lost their secure element when they did reset wallet, and people have lost it even when they hadn't flashed anything or even so much as rebooted. Just worked one day and not the next.
So we don't know what kills them yet.
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Rite on! Thanks for this Garwynn! Much appreciated man.
siraltus said:
It doesn't matter what phone you use, that's just how Google Wallet and the secure element work together. Google "Secure element has stopped responding" and you'll see how many people have bricked their secure element because they didn't know this.
This only happens in a very specific situation - when you go to a different ROM or do a factory reset without resetting Wallet first, in which case the secure element remains forever married to a Wallet installation that's lost.
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I've never had a single issue on either my gs3 or my gn2 flashing or upgrading firmware and being able to use google wallet. Even with the gn2 and Wallet not being "officially" supported. I have a hard time believing any of this is true...it certainly hasn't been in my case. I'll toss my Nexus 7 in there as well. Flashed plenty roms and upgraded firmware...no issues whatsoever.
superuser is denying all requests...flashed the rooted restore
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superuser is denying all requests...flashed the rooted restore
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nevermind one clicked back to stock and rooted via toolbox with supersu...all working fine
I just flashed the MA7 FULL STOCK RESTORE one click. The build updated but the kernel and baseband were still LJC. Did I do something wrong?
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Except that's not true because many people have done both of those many times and it still worked fine. I have myself.
And, people have lost their secure element when they did reset wallet, and people have lost it even when they hadn't flashed anything or even so much as rebooted. Just worked one day and not the next.
So we don't know what kills them yet.
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Except that read this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721222
I destroyed my secure element on my GN2 just two days ago and NOTHING was able to make Wallet work again. I went from the NoWiz ROM to stock rooted MA7 and wiped the entire phone (including /data and /.android.secure) in the process, installed Wallet, it threw the "secure element has stopped responding" error and NOTHING could make it work again because I didn't back up my previous ROM. I had to get my phone replaced under carrier insurance.
What's wrong with including the modem? I just got this phone like 3 days ago so im just wondering why no modem?
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Except that read this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721222
I destroyed my secure element on my GN2 just two days ago and NOTHING was able to make Wallet work again. I went from the NoWiz ROM to stock rooted MA7 and wiped the entire phone (including /data and /.android.secure) in the process, installed Wallet, it threw the "secure element has stopped responding" error and NOTHING could make it work again because I didn't back up my previous ROM. I had to get my phone replaced under carrier insurance.
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So what? All that web article does is parrot stuff people have been guessing at here. It's not sourced from Google.
The fact that your SE bricked doesn't prove anything except that sometimes they brick. No one disputes that.
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Err quick question
Do i need to reset all back to stock ljc to flash the tar in odin or can i just flash (Modem and firmware) over ma5?
Wrong kernel in OCs... that's what I get for doing in early am. Will fix tomorrow.
Modem cannot be included because dump is too big to flash via Odin.
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