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Some questions about DHD before ill buy it

Hey everyone,
My first post here .
So im planning to buy HTC Desire HD, but i heard that it has some issues with proximity sensor. But there was update which should have fixed that issue, and as i readed for most people that update fixed issue, but for some it didnt. So im asking is this really fixed for everyone? Also how about screen? I contacted HTC and they said it has 16million colors and its S-lcd, but i saw some video clips in which people complained that screen look kinda washed out. also it has same resolution as the desire or desire z, so perhaps on Desire hd screen is pixelated (bigger screen) or when you view web page in very small font, instead of clear symbols i would see just black dots (because the resolution is not that big?). Also i heard complaints about poor battery life, but some people say that its because you use network intense apps like skype in background. Well i dont use any social stuff (facebook, twitter) or skype (i use it only on my pc), so the battery life should be good right? I would be happy if it would last at least 1 day. About the build quality i heard that battery cover and sim card cover doesnt get perfectly fitted in its positions, is this true? So far ive been thinking at first to buy htc desire, but now when desire hd price lowered, and since i heard that desire hd has less problems than original desire im thinking on buying one. I also thinked perhaps nexus s? but its price is bigger and it has less RAM, also it has super amoled (amoled is a minus, really). So far for now Desire hd looks like the best choice to me, currently im owning Samsung s5230 star.
Cheers

Its suprising that nobody did answer
By the way i have few other questions to add. How well does the phone sits on a hand? i mean can you touch all edges of the screen without using another hand? Also, i heard that HTC desire had lots of problems with random rebooting and overheating, but how about desire hd? does it still have those problems?
thanks again for answers

Nece228 said:
Its suprising that nobody did answer
By the way i have few other questions to add. How well does the phone sits on a hand? i mean can you touch all edges of the screen without using another hand? Also, i heard that HTC desire had lots of problems with random rebooting and overheating, but how about desire hd? does it still have those problems?
thanks again for answers
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ive never had a problem with the sensor, screen acts well during calls the screen is big, but just about fully useable with one hand, the pvt1 & 2 desires had faulty mainboards, thats where the random reboot problem came from, the DHD dosent have this problem

If you would of done some research you could find all the answers already.
I have no issue with the proximity sensor but if you can test it out before buying and make sure it works properly then you have nothing to worry about.
Screen is really really good. When you view the phone on about a 45degree angle it does become a little washed out but why would you view it on a angle. I much prefer a S-LCD then AMOLED or those other newer screens since I feel they don't look very natural at all, they provide better black for sure but everything else looks very saturated with a weird tint. For me the phone fits great in my hand and I can use it with just one hand.
Battery is good for a smartphone with such a huge screen, you can easily get 2 days with little use. I also don't use facebook and that other crap so I find battery life just great. Playing games non stop the battery lasts about 6 - 8 hours, depending on the game.
I find build quality excellent. I too heard complaints like you've mentioned but I find everything fits perfectly and very easy to remove and put back on.
I would very much recommend this phone, you simply can't go wrong. I came from a older phone so the upgrade was huge for me and I really like Android now, bye bye WinMo.

The phone is junk. I'd recommend a Nokia N91 over this crap. I've heard that phone even has a hard drive.
Obviously I'm lying. Best phone ever. Mostly you will find that the unsatisfied buyers are more vocal than the happy ones.
It's not too big unless you have tiny hands, screen is beautiful, chances of getting a faulty one are small.
I charge every night but I could get 48 hours if I am conservative with usage.
Someone swyped my idea.

AndroHero said:
ive never had a problem with the sensor, screen acts well during calls the screen is big, but just about fully useable with one hand, the pvt1 & 2 desires had faulty mainboards, thats where the random reboot problem came from, the DHD dosent have this problem
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thanks for info. what do you mean pvt1 and 2 have that rebooting problem? so if i buy now htc desire i will not get this overheating and random rebooting issue?
@ErOr22 Thanks. ive already done lots of research and as i said for some people update fixes issue for some not. in fact all those posts where like posted in october, perhaps the newest line of desire hd does no longer have that problem. Well i also heard that htc desire hd has not as good viewing angles as original desire with s-lcd. But when you look at different angles to the screen does the washout effect is big or almost unsignificant? I currently own samsung s5230 a cheap touchscreen phone, but its screen is good imo, viewing angles are brilliant, so i wouldnt like to buy expensive phone with worse screen that the cheap phone.
@dr.m0x Thanks. i do also see that many people complain about this phone and many others. thats why i want to hear opinions from a little more optimistic people

Nece228 said:
thanks for info. what do you mean pvt1 and 2 have that rebooting problem? so if i buy now htc desire i will not get this overheating and random rebooting issue?
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they are diffrent hardware revisions, but that was on the desire, the desire hd has never had this problem

i'm really satisfied with DHD, colors look brillant, screen size is the one i wanted and battery capacity is still on try,, but i use wifi 24h and social stuff. I've not encountered any problem on cover slot, it was the first thing i've checked and it fits well.

But when you look at different angles to the screen does the washout effect is big or almost insignificant?
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On a 45 degree angle the washout effect is pretty small, its noticeable but nothing to really cry about, I would say my i900 Omnia had a better viewing angle but not by much. I wouldn't really concern too much about it, just go to some shop and have a play and see for yourself.

Hi everyone, I m also a potential Android owner and was rocking back and forth between the Desire and the DHD. (since I dont like a iPhone copy like Galaxy S)
I've been doing my research in the background since a while and seeing this thread i thought of doing this post.
The main reason I was considering Desire over DHD was the battery life problem, in fact I was about to order my desire a while back but changed my mind and thought of doing more research. All I really need to know is how the battery perform in DHD COMPARED to the original Desire. (because every other aspect about the Desire perfectly suits my needs.) Like the @nece228 i really dont care fb twitter etc syncing all the time, even I am happy with the manually pressing the refresh button on the widget whenever i feel like checking for an update.
What I do plan to do with it is mostly try apps, rooting, hacking, play games (show off the capabilities of Adreno 205 to my friends) watch videos, take a snap and some HD footage, and of course the basic functions of a phone, texting, calling and some browsing.
I really want it to last solid 24 hrs with moderate usage because I dont have anywhere to charge it up during the day.
Would someone having experience from both worlds give an opinion about the DHD battery life COMPARED to Desire? It will make my decision about DHD or original Desire.
PS: I ve seen the huge support and userbase behind the Desire (6000+threads vs 1000+ in DHD forum) will there be that kind of community building around DHD too? (given the same time of existence) And this phone will be my first Android experience too. Looking forward to make a good choice of a phone in the first attempt)

@AndroHero, so you mean that those two revisions of motherboards had that problem? So as of now if ill buy the latest revision of motherboard i wont get those problems with overheating and random rebooting right? If so, then perhaps i should reconsider, and buy original desire, because that was the biggest problem why i didnt want to buy that phone. Also the problem is multitouch, i would usually ignore that because i dont play games (only they require proper multitouch), but since new google earth came with those cool multitouch gestures i saw a video in youtube in which those gestures doesnt work that smoothly, because of those multitouch issues. But this isnt that big problem, the only serious problem is overheating and random rebooting, which i really dont want to see.
@Spaghetti-XRY, thanks for informing me.
@ErOR22, well in the video which shows desire and desire screen comparisons (both s-lcd) desire screen has better angles and no washout effect. but i guess ill go to shop and compare those two devices by myself.
@XartzMAX, i think i can help you. well actually if you count mathematically how much different is 1230 miliamper and 1400 miliamper battery math shows that you gain only about ten minutes of usage, so thats definitely not a problem. as i know all android devices has more or less same battery life. Actually in all what you want both devices will perform well except on gaming. The original desire's gpu is twice times slower than desire hd, so in original desire you wont be able to play newest games smoothly. So i would recommend you desire hd, it has much faster gpu, even latest games are smooth, also this will affect movie playback performance and since bigger screen is better for movies and games i would recommend you desire hd.

XartzMAX said:
Hi everyone, I m also a potential Android owner and was rocking back and forth between the Desire and the DHD. (since I dont like a iPhone copy like Galaxy S)
I've been doing my research in the background since a while and seeing this thread i thought of doing this post.
The main reason I was considering Desire over DHD was the battery life problem, in fact I was about to order my desire a while back but changed my mind and thought of doing more research. All I really need to know is how the battery perform in DHD COMPARED to the original Desire. (because every other aspect about the Desire perfectly suits my needs.) Like the @nece228 i really dont care fb twitter etc syncing all the time, even I am happy with the manually pressing the refresh button on the widget whenever i feel like checking for an update.
What I do plan to do with it is mostly try apps, rooting, hacking, play games (show off the capabilities of Adreno 205 to my friends) watch videos, take a snap and some HD footage, and of course the basic functions of a phone, texting, calling and some browsing.
I really want it to last solid 24 hrs with moderate usage because I dont have anywhere to charge it up during the day.
Would someone having experience from both worlds give an opinion about the DHD battery life COMPARED to Desire? It will make my decision about DHD or original Desire.
PS: I ve seen the huge support and userbase behind the Desire (6000+threads vs 1000+ in DHD forum) will there be that kind of community building around DHD too? (given the same time of existence) And this phone will be my first Android experience too. Looking forward to make a good choice of a phone in the first attempt)
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I think desire HD is far better as I'm having both phones. DHD battery last longer than desire atm
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

What everyone said.
As for battery life, you have to give it a few recharges before you can really see how much it can hold, also there's some info on some sort of battery calibration that is supposed to double your battery life but I haven't tried that.
I keep Gmail chat, SKYPE and a bunch of other online stuff on ALL DAY because of work, plus have it turned on (the screen) a lot of the time, for work, playing intensive 3D games / or not and showing off to iPhone users . It has no problem to get me through a full day until I get home and plug it in.

I have owned an HTC before but switched to an iPhone 3G which I had for 3 years, did loads of research before buying this phone and when I got it all I can say is AMAZING this is the best phone I have ever owned.
Cons: Big phone means one handed operation s difficult but that's something of a trade off for having a big screen.
Pros: camera and video is brilliant, internet is faster than my old 3G and I kept the same SIM card, phone is super fast, never seen a phone boot up so quick. Web browsing made acceptable due to big screen.
I've had this phone since Christmas and I still have only scratched the surface of what it is capable of doing.
AWESOME

[Q] Should I buy the HTC Desire Z?

I want to buy the HTC Desire Z but a few things that I read on the net are really freaking me out:
1) BATTERY LIFE: Some users say the battery lasts for less than a day, while others say they have no problem for 2 days. Now I have a ZTE Blade(which I plan to sell) that also has bad battery life, somewhat similar, so its kinda OK as long as its not really that bad.
I wont really have the Wifi turned on 24/7, coz I am a conservative user(although when I get the phone initially I'll check it out every 10 seconds... only for some days).
Can the battery life be fixed by using custom ROMs or Kernels or is it just the underpowered battery pack?
2)Keyboard Hinge: It seems that the screen falls loose when you turn the phone upside down. Some people complain of loose hinges .
I will be using the keyboard frequently.
3)LAG AND BUGS: Actually, its software related so it doesn't really matter I would probably flash a Custom ROM as soon as I get.
So should I buy this phone or not? Please tell me about the other problems in this phone...
If you say "NO", then please suggest an alternative in the same price segment!
Thanks a lot!
Regards,
jj_95nano

I've had my Desire Z since august last year.
Pros:
-great dev support with PLENTY of ROMs to choose from, you get choices between AOSP, GB Sense, GB MIUI, ICS Sense and ICS MIUI.
-good sound quality output through headphone jack
-great screen with nice viewing angles and colours.
-good battery life lasting 2 full days regularly for me under light to medium use.
-great keyboard which has a good feel to it.
-fantastic build quality, i've dropped my DZ a bit more than a handful of times and it barely has any scratches anywhere.
-the "z-hinge" is much more sturdy than it seems and it will definitely last the test of time.
-the phone is blazing fast with AOSP ROMs and can play pretty much every game right now.
-Call quality is really good when there is good reception (read below)
Cons:
-sometimes not-so fantastic performance when it comes to Sense ROMs.
-my keyboard is becoming unresponsive and requires very hard pushes to register the keys Q,W,E and more recently the space bar is having this issue too.
-i have had both wifi and cellular signal death grip issues that occur when the keyboard is out and my hands are wrapped around the device.
-With wifi, a full bar signal can drop down to half signal or less than half if you hold the device as i described.
-With cellular signal, i have very poor reception at my house where i'll get 3/4 bars at the most but a lot of the time, if i hold my phone for more than 30 seconds while the keyboard is out with my hands wrapped around it, i will end up completely losing reception. That said, this has been an issue with previous phones of mine anyway though.
-The device does get hot at times where it can make your hands sweaty but it never really gets burning hot.
-call quality is quite terrible for me at times at my house due to the bad reception that i have and the death grip issues seem to interrupt calls as well at times as i've had a drop outs during calls before.
I hope that helps a bit. Oh and about the tightness of the Z-hinge, i can hold my phone upside down with the keyboard open without it closing, it takes a little bit of practice but my hinge is quite tight and it's still as tight as it was when i bought my phone so as mentioned earlier, the hinge will definitely last the tests of time.
Overall, the pros outweigh the cons for me simply because of how much i love android, so i'd give the phone about an 8/10. If you can find it for like $250USD or less, i'd buy it if i were you, but otherwise, i would just wait for the next best qwerty slider.

magic_android said:
I've had my Desire Z since august last year.
Pros:
-great dev support with PLENTY of ROMs to choose from, you get choices between AOSP, GB Sense, GB MIUI, ICS Sense and ICS MIUI.
-good sound quality output through headphone jack
-great screen with nice viewing angles and colours.
-good battery life lasting 2 full days regularly for me under light to medium use.
-great keyboard which has a good feel to it.
-fantastic build quality, i've dropped my DZ a bit more than a handful of times and it barely has any scratches anywhere.
-the "z-hinge" is much more sturdy than it seems and it will definitely last the test of time.
-the phone is blazing fast with AOSP ROMs and can play pretty much every game right now.
-Call quality is really good when there is good reception (read below)
Cons:
-sometimes not-so fantastic performance when it comes to Sense ROMs.
-my keyboard is becoming unresponsive and requires very hard pushes to register the keys Q,W,E and more recently the space bar is having this issue too.
-i have had both wifi and cellular signal death grip issues that occur when the keyboard is out and my hands are wrapped around the device.
-With wifi, a full bar signal can drop down to half signal or less than half if you hold the device as i described.
-With cellular signal, i have very poor reception at my house where i'll get 3/4 bars at the most but a lot of the time, if i hold my phone for more than 30 seconds while the keyboard is out with my hands wrapped around it, i will end up completely losing reception. That said, this has been an issue with previous phones of mine anyway though.
-The device does get hot at times where it can make your hands sweaty but it never really gets burning hot.
-call quality is quite terrible for me at times at my house due to the bad reception that i have and the death grip issues seem to interrupt calls as well at times as i've had a drop outs during calls before.
I hope that helps a bit. Oh and about the tightness of the Z-hinge, i can hold my phone upside down with the keyboard open without it closing, it takes a little bit of practice but my hinge is quite tight and it's still as tight as it was when i bought my phone so as mentioned earlier, the hinge will definitely last the tests of time.
Overall, the pros outweigh the cons for me simply because of how much i love android, so i'd give the phone about an 8/10. If you can find it for like $250USD or less, i'd buy it if i were you, but otherwise, i would just wait for the next best qwerty slider.
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Thank you for answering!
But there are a few new problems(Call reception, bad signal) that you have just enlightened me about. But should it really matter at a place with full network strength?
But seriously, the PROS seem tooo attractive! The number of ROMS is amazing.
I guess I might just go to an E-store and check out the DZ today!
Then I'll make up my mind.
Thanks again for your helpful post.

jj_95nano said:
Thank you for answering!
But there are a few new problems(Call reception, bad signal) that you have just enlightened me about. But should it really matter at a place with full network strength?
But seriously, the PROS seem tooo attractive! The number of ROMS is amazing.
I guess I might just go to an E-store and check out the DZ today!
Then I'll make up my mind.
Thanks again for your helpful post.
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I bought my DZ a year and a half ago and i've never encountered major issues other than ROM depending ones.
I live in a french "big city" and never have signal troubles.
Sure he doesn't have incredible performances (mostly with Sense 3.x Roms) and if you want to use it while lying on your bed and holding it above you you will suffer of a loose hinge but if you can find it at a reasonable price, it's still a good deal and one of the best with an HW Keyboard.

Might be worthwhile to check out the official review thread in the General section.
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If you live somewhere with good reception and you can get the desire z at a good price, then i'd say go for it . When i have good reception, calls sound pretty much perfect. It's just that my carrier somewhat sucks haha.

magic_android said:
If you live somewhere with good reception and you can get the desire z at a good price, then i'd say go for it . When i have good reception, calls sound pretty much perfect. It's just that my carrier somewhat sucks haha.
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Thanks for replying!
My carrier sucks too, but only outside the city, but I get full signal strength with my ZTE Blade in my house. Considering that the ZTE Blade has similar network issues, I think I don't mind the bad reception issue. Things are getting positive for this phone... I couldn't go to see it today, but I'll try tomorrow!
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Might be worthwhile to check out the official review thread in the General section.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA
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Its great you pointed me out to that thread, it added to my knowledge about the DZ!
And I also found a ZTE Blade owner who had upgraded to DZ on that thread!
TenMaKo said:
I bought my DZ a year and a half ago and i've never encountered major issues other than ROM depending ones.
I live in a french "big city" and never have signal troubles.
Sure he doesn't have incredible performances (mostly with Sense 3.x Roms) and if you want to use it while lying on your bed and holding it above you you will suffer of a loose hinge but if you can find it at a reasonable price, it's still a good deal and one of the best with an HW Keyboard.
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Yes, HW keyboard is important as I always face issues with my existing phone when it comes to using the on-screen keyboard. Well, I'll just grin and bear the loose hinge.
Thanks to everyone on this thread. I seem to like the phone now.I just need to see it in reality to make up my mind.

it's just the keyboard issue, other than that , the phone is awesome

Very quick fix if you feel the keyboard is loose. Check the thread on the spring fix. I did both mine and my girlfriends g2s in 20min. As for reception there are more radios to pick from then on any other device I've used so chances are at least one is good in your area and this may help with battery life too. Also I get about 20 hrs give or take with most roms and I'm a heavy user. My gf still has over 80% battery when she plugs in at night as a light user. Not to mention many after market batteries to pick from.
Did a lot of research before I bought us both g2s and I could not find a better option for us as the keyboard was the hw biggest need for us
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The screen is meant to be loose, in that it allows you to flip the keyboard open and closed with almost no effort. I actually find it pretty tough to hold the phone in such a way, that it opens when upside down. Any contact with your fingers/hands on the "screen" portion of the phone will prevent it from opening accidentally. You actually have to be holding the back "half" of the phone without touching the front "half" in order for it to open while upside down. A few people have mentioned that the phone opens when they are using the phone and laying down. But I often use my Z while laying on the couch, and have never found this to be an issue. My opinion is that the hinge "issue" has been completely overblown, and don't let it negatively sway your opinion of the phone.
Battery life is obviously a very difficult thing to compare between users, as its very dependent on how you use your phone, and also reception. But with fairly moderate use, the Z will easily get you through the day, and then you charge overnight. With light usage, I can often get 2 days. On the other hand, when I'm hiking in the woods, in poor reception areas, I can kill the battery in 8 hours or less, without even using it. Forcing the phone to EDGE seems to help, as some of the battery drain seems to be from the phone constantly trying to connect to a dodgy 3G signal. Similarly, in less populated areas (but still in built up towns) I will sometimes get battery life much less than the usual 1-2 days I can get at my home and work locations. I guess the moral of the story, your mileage will certainly vary. But for average conditions, I'd say the Z has pretty good battery life for a smartphone.
All that said, the Z is a solid phone, and a great community here. But I'd be hard pressed to recommend buying one at this time. The phone is a year and a half old. The CPU and memory specs are really showing their age. And its unfortunate that flagship devices with hardware keyboards seem to be becoming an extinct species. I'd only consider this device if you really require a hardware keyboard, and can get a good price.

redpoint73 said:
The screen is meant to be loose, in that it allows you to flip the keyboard open and closed with almost no effort. I actually find it pretty tough to hold the phone in such a way, that it opens when upside down. Any contact with your fingers/hands on the "screen" portion of the phone will prevent it from opening accidentally. You actually have to be holding the back "half" of the phone without touching the front "half" in order for it to open while upside down. A few people have mentioned that the phone opens when they are using the phone and laying down. But I often use my Z while laying on the couch, and have never found this to be an issue. My opinion is that the hinge "issue" has been completely overblown, and don't let it negatively sway your opinion of the phone.
Battery life is obviously a very difficult thing to compare between users, as its very dependent on how you use your phone, and also reception. But with fairly moderate use, the Z will easily get you through the day, and then you charge overnight. With light usage, I can often get 2 days. On the other hand, when I'm hiking in the woods, in poor reception areas, I can kill the battery in 8 hours or less, without even using it. Forcing the phone to EDGE seems to help, as some of the battery drain seems to be from the phone constantly trying to connect to a dodgy 3G signal. Similarly, in less populated areas (but still in built up towns) I will sometimes get battery life much less than the usual 1-2 days I can get at my home and work locations. I guess the moral of the story, your mileage will certainly vary. But for average conditions, I'd say the Z has pretty good battery life for a smartphone.
All that said, the Z is a solid phone, and a great community here. But I'd be hard pressed to recommend buying one at this time. The phone is a year and a half old. The CPU and memory specs are really showing their age. And its unfortunate that flagship devices with hardware keyboards seem to be becoming an extinct species. I'd only consider this device if you really require a hardware keyboard, and can get a good price.
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I guess if I buy the phone, I'll have better battery life as I have my cellular plan limited to 2G so that is going to make a big difference. Anyways its not like my existing phone(ZTE Blade) has great battery life and reception, so I'm used to this.
And ay the community here is AMAZING, the number of ROMs and Radios is superb! I am no fan of OC'ing so CPU speed doesn't matter. HW keyboard is soo tempting.
Thanks a lot for all your responses... I'll search for the spring fix for the keyboard...

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I am no fan of OC'ing so CPU speed doesn't matter.
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Actually have to say that this statement is a bit backward. If you were into overclocking, that would make up a bit for the lower "stock" CPU clock speed of 800 MHz. As it is, the CPU on the Z is good enough for most tasks. But newer CPUs are pushing 1.5 GHz, and multi cores, and you can really tell the difference. My tablet is a HTC Flyer, with a 1.5 GHz CPU, and it just, well . . . flies. So much more smoother interface experience (even with Sense), smooth video playback (Rockplayer), and this is only with single core (most phones are now coming dual core, and quad core coming soon). Plus 1 GB of RAM means much less dropping of apps from memory. My Flyer acts like I wish my Z would.
Again, don't get me wrong. The Z is solid, and will still have plenty of life left, if you really need the keyboard. But its nowhere near cutting edge, and for me its time to move on. I'll likely be picking up the One X when its released.

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Actually have to say that this statement is a bit backward. If you were into overclocking, that would make up a bit for the lower "stock" CPU clock speed of 800 MHz. As it is, the CPU on the Z is good enough for most tasks. But newer CPUs are pushing 1.5 GHz, and multi cores, and you can really tell the difference. My tablet is a HTC Flyer, with a 1.5 GHz CPU, and it just, well . . . flies. So much more smoother interface experience (even with Sense), smooth video playback (Rockplayer), and this is only with single core (most phones are now coming dual core, and quad core coming soon). Plus 1 GB of RAM means much less dropping of apps from memory. My Flyer acts like I wish my Z would.
Again, don't get me wrong. The Z is solid, and will still have plenty of life left, if you really need the keyboard. But its nowhere near cutting edge, and for me its time to move on. I'll likely be picking up the One X when its released.
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I mostly agree with this post and his previous one.
I'm also considering buying an HTC One X.
It seems so great : Tegra3 1.5Ghz QuadCore - 1GB RAM - Screen resolution : 1280*720px, Internal Memory 32GB, Front Camera, NFC, Native ICS + Sense 4 in its full version
Compared to our DZ, that's just like WOW !!
But no hardware keyboard anymore and no real HDMI connection (you need a special cable).... for a 600€ phone.... that really pisses me off.

@ the OP, i think you should wait a couple of months until some new phones come out so that you have more choice. I'm personally HIGHLY considering getting a One X or One S if i can find the money for it as the keyboard on my phone is driving me nuts xD.

redpoint73 said:
Actually have to say that this statement is a bit backward. If you were into overclocking, that would make up a bit for the lower "stock" CPU clock speed of 800 MHz. As it is, the CPU on the Z is good enough for most tasks. But newer CPUs are pushing 1.5 GHz, and multi cores, and you can really tell the difference. My tablet is a HTC Flyer, with a 1.5 GHz CPU, and it just, well . . . flies. So much more smoother interface experience (even with Sense), smooth video playback (Rockplayer), and this is only with single core (most phones are now coming dual core, and quad core coming soon). Plus 1 GB of RAM means much less dropping of apps from memory. My Flyer acts like I wish my Z would.
Again, don't get me wrong. The Z is solid, and will still have plenty of life left, if you really need the keyboard. But its nowhere near cutting edge, and for me its time to move on. I'll likely be picking up the One X when its released.
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I don't want to contradict you, but I never overclocked my existing phone which is only 600MHz and I was pretty satisfied because I used custom ROMs. The only Overclocking that I did was to OC the GPU. But the stock 800MHz on DZ is good with custom ROMs as I saw on youtube...
Well I'm still a teen so the One X is a tad too expensive. I txt, so HW keyboard is a necessity. I have an iPod touch 4 for 1GHz . I use that for Gaming, media, etc(you obviously know)...
Yes the market is full of Dual and Quad core phones and tabs out there but I might just venture out to that segment when I'm actually looking for a good quality phone to use long-term when I'm older(Coz my parents don't think I'd handle those kinda expensive Gizmos)
magic_android said:
@ the OP, i think you should wait a couple of months until some new phones come out so that you have more choice. I'm personally HIGHLY considering getting a One X or One S if i can find the money for it as the keyboard on my phone is driving me nuts xD.
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After reviewing the phone in a store I was pretty impressed and there really wasn't anything wrong with the keyboard(firm enough) on that piece so I think I'll just have to have my fingers crossed to get a piece that has a stiff keyboard.
I need to buy a phone quick as my ZTE Blade's value is going down and I don't want to spend too much on upgrading. The only competitor IMHO to the DZ is Xperia Pro. So I think I'd either buy the DZ or the Xperia Pro...

You're talking about the mini pro? Or is there another version of it? The dz will probably have a larger community since that device wasn't advertised too much. It's still a great device though, a friend of mine's got it and I had the chance to play around with it.
The phone's hardware, as redpoint73 stated, is indeed starting to age. It can last for a bit more than a year, if you don't mind the slower hardware. So, it might just be worth it if you upgrade every 1,5-2 years.
Sent from my DZ.

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You're talking about the mini pro? Or is there another version of it? The dz will probably have a larger community since that device wasn't advertised too much. It's still a great device though, a friend of mine's got it and I had the chance to play around with it.
The phone's hardware, as redpoint73 stated, is indeed starting to age. It can last for a bit more than a year, if you don't mind the slower hardware. So, it might just be worth it if you upgrade every 1,5-2 years.
Sent from my DZ.
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No I'm talking about this: http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_pro-3779.php <<< It has a resolution of 480x854, so its bigger and it has a 1GHz processor. Only thing is that it does not have a good community(or maybe no community...)
I bought my ZTE Blade just 5 months back, so you know that's pretty short... I will obviously upgrade in the future if there is another phone that I fall in love with
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_pro-3779.php

jj_95nano said:
I don't want to contradict you, but I never overclocked my existing phone which is only 600MHz and I was pretty satisfied because I used custom ROMs. The only Overclocking that I did was to OC the GPU. But the stock 800MHz on DZ is good with custom ROMs as I saw on youtube...
Well I'm still a teen so the One X is a tad too expensive. I txt, so HW keyboard is a necessity. I have an iPod touch 4 for 1GHz . I use that for Gaming, media, etc(you obviously know)...
Yes the market is full of Dual and Quad core phones and tabs out there but I might just venture out to that segment when I'm actually looking for a good quality phone to use long-term when I'm older(Coz my parents don't think I'd handle those kinda expensive Gizmos)
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Its largely a matter of personal preference and needs, so feel free to disagree! Its you buying the phone, after all. But for me, its really quite evident when comparing the Z to more modern phones, the difference in CPU. Lightweight ROMs help, but its really just a Band-Aid when the CPU is falling this far behind. But if you're on a budget, and can get a good deal on a Z, its still a solid phone.
Slightly off topic, but speaking of CPUs on newer phones, have you guys seen the recently posted benchmarks on the US (AT&T) version of the One X (actually One XL)? Dammmnnnn, this thing embarrasses every phone currently on the market, including the Galaxy Nexus. Much less an older phone like the Z:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1565181

jj_95nano said:
No I'm talking about this: http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_pro-3779.php <<< It has a resolution of 480x854, so its bigger and it has a 1GHz processor. Only thing is that it does not have a good community(or maybe no community...)
I bought my ZTE Blade just 5 months back, so you know that's pretty short... I will obviously upgrade in the future if there is another phone that I fall in love with
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_pro-3779.php
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I think that we don't care about the slight difference between the 2 processor as you can OC your DZ from 800Mhz to 1.8Ghz without problems (i know u can even go higher but i've never tried). Even if you're not fond of OCing, that's still a possibility.
Screen resolution doesn't seem relevant to me neither. 480*800 VS 480*854.....
On the other hand, the community should be a major argument as it's the one thing that allows our DZ not to be totally outdated.
P.S: Sorry, i'm pretty sure my english is terrible

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P.S: Sorry, i'm pretty sure my english is terrible
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Um, almost perfect, actually. And more better than many native English speakers on XDA. ;-)

I have got mine! (Early impressions)

I have got my One X on Saturday (Tegra version, HT24 batch) and I am posting my quick impressions.
GOOD THINGS:
- Build quality is superb, after reading horror stories here I was really worried, but happily my device is perfect - no creaking, flex, gaps, yellow spots etc.
- Polycarbonate body looks really great, although it is a bit slippery. Rubber-like back of my HD2 felt more secure in hand.
- Display is just amazing, colours are vivid and natural (compared to oversaturated, 'radioactive' mess on SAMOLEDs), resolution is perfect (no pen-tile absurd). I don't think any screen in the near future can get much better than this. I haven't observed any flickering at all or graphics corruption a lot of people complain about. My LCD is slightly on the warmer side (but not yellowish), colour calibration and gamma are surprisingly good (this is not something you see on mobiles displays often). If I wanted to be really picky, there is a small particle of dust behind the glass (about one pixel size, looks like a dead pixel), which I can only see under the microscope (sic!) really.
- Touchscreen is very responsive and the glass has got this nice 'soft' feeling under the fingers (some kind of coating?).
- Performance is great, UI is smooth, internal storage is blazing fast (> 30MB/s). It is a joy to use this phone.
NEUTRAL:
- Battery life. Not great, but not terrible either (sofware 1.28). The battery can easily last the whole day (6AM - 11PM) with moderate usage: a lot of phone calls & texts, 1 hour of internet browsing and music, a bit of gaming, 3G / Wifi on + Exchange & GMail push synchronization enabled all the time.
- Sense. I prefer stock ICS, but Sense is not that bad. It has got some nice widgets and sync features. It would be perfect if HTC could just provide stock ICS experience, will some additional wallpapers, themes, widgets and sync options. The biggest problem is that Sense alone eats almost 800MB of RAM on One-X.
BAD THINGS:
- Quality of headphone output is really terrible. There is huge amount of noise (SNR must be really low) and even at the maximum level volume is just OK on pretty sensitive Ultimate Ears 700 IEMs. My old HD2 sounds like audiophile device when compared to One X. Really disappointed here.
- GPS works well indoors and fix is quick, but erratic. Position on Google maps is just floating all over the screen (it looks quite funny), in most cases it stabilizes after a while though. It seems like some output filtering / accuracy reporting issue (GPS reports 1m accuracy which I find hard to believe), hopefully this can be corrected by further software updates. At this point GPS is quite unusable in applications that rely on distance / speed calculations (Sports tracking, Car Nav, etc).
- Camera is overhyped IMHO. The pictures are VERY grainy, oversaturated and lacking details (too much noise reduction?). They actually look worse than from HD2, not to mention my old Nokia N82. The photos I saw in various 'camera is great' threads on XDA are also pretty bad, I am not sure what all this fuss is about. It is probably some mass-hallucination The camera is just average, at best. However, you can't deny that speed of capture application is great.
- Not enough RAM - when Android + Sense consumes almost 800MB, 1GB is just not enough. Because of lack of RAM, applications are killed very quickly and multitasking is significantly affected. This device should ship with at least 1.5GB of RAM.
- Software is still unpolished and outdated (2.x kernel, Android 4.0.3 base in 2012 flagship model - HTC, seriously?), Tegra power management is lacking, there are a lot of small bugs. This should be resolved within a few months (hopefully!)
- Lack of MicroSD slot. I am not that concerned about replacement battery, but absence of SD card slot is a MAJOR design fault. First of all, with microSD you could expand your phone with 32GB of extra space for 15 quid or so and not waste quick internal memory for data like movies, music or pictures. Second (I think more important) point is that memory card is great for quickly transferring data between devices and storing / taking backups (Titanium Backup, CWM). If something goes wrong with the phone (it dies, gets damaged, etc.) then you can say goodbye to your data on the internal memory. With microSD card, you just move it to another device / card reader and easily recover your files from it.
It might look like there are more bad points than good ones, but I am actually loving this device. It has just got this 'premium' felling (build quality, screen), it is really hard not to like it. It is just a shame that sound quality is dire (despite of 'Beats Audio' branding) and the phone is plagued with various QC / software issues. I really hope HTC will be able to rectify them soon, this handset deserves it.

aszu said:
I have got my One X on Saturday (Tegra version, HT24 batch) and I am posting my quick impressions.
GOOD THINGS:
- Build quality is superb, after reading horror stories here I was really worried, but happily my device is perfect - no creaking, flex, gaps, yellow spots etc.
- Polycarbonate body looks really great, although it is a bit slippery. Rubber-like back of my HD2 felt more secure in hand.
- Display is just amazing, colours are vivid and natural (compared to oversaturated, 'radioactive' mess on SAMOLEDs), resolution is perfect (no pen-tile absurd). I don't think any screen in the near future can get much better than this. I haven't observed any flickering at all or graphics corruption a lot of people complain about. My LCD is slightly on the warmer side (but not yellowish), colour calibration and gamma are surprisingly good (this is not something you see on mobiles displays often). If I wanted to be really picky, there is a small particle of dust behind the glass (about one pixel size, looks like a dead pixel), which I can only see under the microscope (sic!) really.
- Touchscreen is very responsive and the glass has got this nice 'soft' feeling under the fingers (some kind of coating?).
- Performance is great, UI is smooth, internal storage is blazing fast (> 30MB/s). It is a joy to use this phone.
NEUTRAL:
- Battery life. Not great, but not terrible either (sofware 1.28). The battery can easily last the whole day (6AM - 11PM) with moderate usage: a lot of phone calls & texts, 1 hour of internet browsing and music, a bit of gaming, 3G / Wifi on + Exchange & GMail push synchronization enabled all the time.
- Sense. I prefer stock ICS, but Sense is not that bad. It has got some nice widgets and sync features. It would be perfect if HTC could just provide stock ICS experience, will some additional wallpapers, themes, widgets and sync options. The biggest problem is that Sense alone eats almost 800MB of RAM on One-X.
BAD THINGS:
- Quality of headphone output is really terrible. There is huge amount of noise (SNR must be really low) and even at the maximum level volume is just OK on pretty sensitive Ultimate Ears 700 IEMs. My old HD2 sounds like audiophile device when compared to One X. Really disappointed here.
- GPS works well indoors and fix is quick, but erratic. Position on Google maps is just floating all over the screen (it looks quite funny), in most cases it stabilizes after a while though. It seems like some output filtering / accuracy reporting issue (GPS reports 1m accuracy which I find hard to believe), hopefully this can be corrected by further software updates. At this point GPS is quite unusable in applications that rely on distance / speed calculations (Sports tracking, Car Nav, etc).
- Camera is overhyped IMHO. The pictures are VERY grainy, oversaturated and lacking details (too much noise reduction?). They actually look worse than from HD2, not to mention my old Nokia N82. The photos I saw in various 'camera is great' threads on XDA are also pretty bad, I am not sure what all this fuss is about. It is probably some mass-hallucination The camera is just average, at best. However, you can't deny that speed of capture application is great.
- Not enough RAM - when Android + Sense consumes almost 800MB, 1GB is just not enough. Because of lack of RAM, applications are killed very quickly and multitasking is significantly affected. This device should ship with at least 1.5GB of RAM.
- Software is still unpolished and outdated (2.x kernel, Android 4.0.3 base in 2012 flagship model - HTC, seriously?), Tegra power management is lacking, there are a lot of small bugs. This should be resolved within a few months (hopefully!)
- Lack of MicroSD slot. I am not that concerned about replacement battery, but absence of SD card slot is a MAJOR design fault. First of all, with microSD you could expand your phone with 32GB of extra space for 15 quid or so and not waste quick internal memory for data like movies, music or pictures. Second (I think more important) point is that memory card is great for quickly transferring data between devices and storing / taking backups (Titanium Backup, CWM). If something goes wrong with the phone (it dies, gets damaged, etc.) then you can say goodbye to your data on the internal memory. With microSD card, you just move it to another device / card reader and easily recover your files from it.
It might look like there are more bad points than good ones, but I am actually loving this device. It has just got this 'premium' felling (build quality, screen), it is really hard not to like it. It is just a shame that sound quality is dire (despite of 'Beats Audio' branding) and the phone is plagued with various QC / software issues. I really hope HTC will be able to rectify them soon, this handset deserves it.
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Just would like to offer my own experience on the bad poings you covered:
Audio is Great with my Marley Zions, On the Beats profiles and no effect settings its above and beyond my Desire HD and HD2. Not sure how you'd. Put the HD2 above it, as IMO that was a horrible sounding device (It lasted me two weeks). But of course audio is subjective.
GPS, this may be your device, as I was using GPS extensively saturday night for a car cruise where we'd be texted the next location and have to find our way there (all 500+ of us )
But GPS lock on in Essex, Took 2-5 seconds, withvabsolutely no disconnections for 2 hours estimated total, I was very impressed as my DHD had awful GPS performance.
I partly agree with the Camera, In low light it struggles due to the over compression, which should be sorted via software update, but in good light It's one of the best Or the best cameraphones I've used.
Ram- 1GB is quite sufficient, I have around 350MB free RAM when I'm not using any other applications, and I don't know of any apps that require 350MB of Ram , Games like GTA and Riptide GP etc will use 100MB at It's max. I can run Stick it while browsing facebook. and listening to music, etc.
More RAM isn't really necessary yet, until battery improvements arise, and of course the requirement for it, but if It's a concern then LG have a phone with 2GB of RAM, but like I said its not necessary and wouldn't be utilized.
SD card issue is also subjective. sure I agree It's a little inconvenient as I like to swap data around, but the improved read and. write speed is a welcome trade off , 25+MB/s compared to around 6-10MB/S On my DHD.

Good review but:
- Battery will improve in a week, especially on 1.29
- Camera is like you described in low light but its amazing in daylight reduce sharpness to -2
- Audio output is amazing, earphones are a nodge better than iPhone4/4s earphoens, what are you talking about

Regarding sd card, everything seems to be going the way of the cloud. I never switched my sd card on previous phones anyway.
Music is backed up on Google music, photos on dropbox, titanium backup can sync with multiple cloud services, so there's not too many important things that can be lost.
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I bought my over the weekend.
Battery Life will alway seem rubbish when you first get the phone, mostly because it a new toy so we keep playing with it.
My Desire was rubbish.. but once got over the wow new toy.. i could take it off charge at 7am and at 11pm it was at 75% (sometimes 90% if untouched).
So i am hoping the same will be true with the HOX.
I like to watch videos, (on holiday) so i do hope it can handle a 2hour film and still be at 50+% charge when done.
I wasn't really that bothered the battery cannot be removed, really the only time i needed to remove battery on the Desire was due to some apps not liking the new Custom ROM. i can alway use a portable charger.
The Screen is gorgeous, just stunning.
Now i was shocked to find only 300megs was left on a 1GB phone... wow, the desire only had 480 and i still had 120mb free.
The big problem was that HTC failed to give us update and blamed the limited amout of Memory... I really hope they dont pull that trick again, eg Jelly Bean comes out and say sorry your 1gb Quad core phone doesn't have the space to run it!
there is some lag here and there but overal an impressive phone.

The dancing GPS will not affect car navigation. You can only really see it when using Google maps and standing still. It is due to a firmware bug from what I can tell, whereby it is not utilising all available satellites, and seemingly also misinterpreting A-GPS info. I find it better if Wi-Fi is switched off for example. I am confident that this will improve with a subsequent firmware update.

If you havent done this yet.
Go to Settings - Sound - Sound Enhancer -
Then at the very top on the black bar there is an Arrow. Select this it will be on Other for Heandphones. Select one of the other 2 options and see wich works better.
The other default sounds horrible. You will notice an increase in volume as well.
Also - you need the headphones plugged in or Sound Enhancer is greyed out.

why on earth would anyone buy a phone w no SD card slot just to complain about it? It's like buying an Iphone but complain about the 3.5 inch screen. Just to remind you the fact that it has no SD card slot --> unibody --> why it's beautiful --> why people choose it over the S3.
Anyway it's your phone, your money, your experience. Complain as much as you want or just return it and move on.

jonstatt said:
The dancing GPS will not affect car navigation. You can only really see it when using Google maps and standing still. It is due to a firmware bug from what I can tell, whereby it is not utilising all available satellites, and seemingly also misinterpreting A-GPS info. I find it better if Wi-Fi is switched off for example. I am confident that this will improve with a subsequent firmware update.
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I hope you're right about firmware fiing this.
I tried to use Runkeeper and Endomondo sports tracker today for a walking trip. After 1 mile walking, the SGPS track reported me covering 6 miles at a speed of 20-something miles per hour. The track was all over the place. USELESS!
I had a Galaxy Nexus as backup...track was flawless.

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Software is still unpolished and outdated (2.x kernel, Android 4.0.3 base in 2012 flagship model - HTC, seriously?
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Blame Nvidia (or HTC for choosing their SoC). Not a single Teg3 device released is on a ICS kernel (the XL is). The biggest and most common issue with the phone right now is graphics drivers problems that are clogging the front page of the forum and really frustrating people. The same thing happened when the Asus Prime launched. Not letting HTC off the hook but, based on some of the Teg3 related problems the One X is experiencing that neither the XL or S are, I'm betting their not real big Nvidia fans right now either.

TommUK said:
... I was using GPS extensively saturday night for a car cruise where we'd be texted the next location and have to find our way there (all 500+ of us ) ..
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That sounds like a lot of fun.

I'm hoping the Tegra problems are taking a while because Nvidia are working on the 3.x kernel.

As someone else has already pointed out, I'm not sure what's up with the sound on your HOX but I don't have any noise on mine. I'm using a mix of Denon in ear (got them on a Play.com offer for travelling around with) to high end Sennheiser full size headphones and with decent quality FLAC files the sound is very good.
Using the Sennheisers the volume is quite loud but it's not as loud as on some other kit, the Denon's go louder than I could ever want them, so it does depend on sensitivity of the headphones but sure, the output isn't as high as some others.
Agree with you on the camera though, it is pretty grainy on most pics I have seen, not that I bought the phone for the camera, but it's a bit disappointing seeing how HTC seem to make a point of how great the camera is.

jonstatt said:
The dancing GPS will not affect car navigation. You can only really see it when using Google maps and standing still. It is due to a firmware bug from what I can tell, whereby it is not utilising all available satellites, and seemingly also misinterpreting A-GPS info. I find it better if Wi-Fi is switched off for example. I am confident that this will improve with a subsequent firmware update.
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I am afraid it does affect car navigation badly, i.e when car waits on the traffic lights, position just jumps all over the place and causes route to be constantly recalculated. I really hope it could be solved by software patch. Allegedly 1.29.401.11 (not in UK yet) provides some fix for this problem, can anyone confirm?
louis.b said:
why on earth would anyone buy a phone w no SD card slot just to complain about it? It's like buying an Iphone but complain about the 3.5 inch screen. Just to remind you the fact that it has no SD card slot --> unibody --> why it's beautiful --> why people choose it over the S3.
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I am not complaining, just providing feedback. I was aware of the lack of SD card slot before I bought the phone and I decided I can live with it. This however does not change the fact that SD card can be very useful in some cases and removing this feature from One X was IMO bad HTC design decision. While I agree that absense of removable battery is a tradeoff required for solid unibody design, in microSD case HTC could just add another small slot on the side (like the one for microSIM). I think users should be vocal about issues like this, so possibly HTC will think twice when designing the next model.
Regarding sound quality, I played a bit more with various equalizer / DSP / Beats Audio options and I can agree I exaggerated a bit calling it 'terrible'. The quality is actually passable (nothing spectacular though), it might even sound good if you don't do A/B testing with some better kit. The thing that bothers me the most is very high noise floor (I am not used to hear noise in my earphones when there is silence on the music track) and realatively low output power. My old HD2 sounded very dull and harsh out of the box, but after doing EQ tweaks in Poweramp it was IMO great (for a phone), no noise at all either. One X sounds initially better without tweaks, but EQ does not help that much. The sound is somehow muffled / lacking details though. BTW: In my case the noise in quesiton is only heard on sensitive IEMs. I don't have this problem when using regular headphones.

I think the headphone output is superb personally, especially on my Sony DJ headphones. Better quality than my iPod anyway.
Completely disagree about the battery though, I've bearly used my phone today and I'm on 80% already. I'm scared to use my phone in case the battery goes flat
I think the camera is pretty good, in the right light it can take some great pics. Took some amazing shots when I went to Tunisia
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Need help getting convinced

It's time for me to get a new device and having been very happy with a HTC Magic, HTC Hero and now happily using a HTC Desire Z and HTC Flyer, I find myself gravitating towards the One X. I love the looks and since Nvidia keeps buying out the shiniest games I believe Tegra 3 is the CPU to get.
I do have some concerns:
- No removable battery
Charging every night is no problem for me, but I'm a compulsive romflasher and pulling the battery on a loop/crash has saved my devices multiple times.
- No external SD
I don't think this will be a big problem, but I like being able to pull the card from my phone and plug in my PC.
- Humongous screen
As far as I'm concerned, the 3.7 inch on my Desire Z is perfect: I can hold it and reach all the way across the screen with the same hand. I like being able to use my phone with only one hand available. Also, the Desire Z fits in my pockets easily. I'm not sure the One X will fit as easily.
- Development community
Like I said, I love tinkering with my device. The Desire Z is still supported by a huge amount of (great) developers. Will the One X stay supported as well?
- Hardware keyboard
I love my physical keyboard, but I find myself using it less and less.
Any One X users here that can alleviate my worries?

Quistnix said:
It's time for me to get a new device and having been very happy with a HTC Magic, HTC Hero and now happily using a HTC Desire Z and HTC Flyer, I find myself gravitating towards the One X. I love the looks and since Nvidia keeps buying out the shiniest games I believe Tegra 3 is the CPU to get.
I do have some concerns:
- No removable battery
Charging every night is no problem for me, but I'm a compulsive romflasher and pulling the battery on a loop/crash has saved my devices multiple times.
- No external SD
I don't think this will be a big problem, but I like being able to pull the card from my phone and plug in my PC.
- Humongous screen
As far as I'm concerned, the 3.7 inch on my Desire Z is perfect: I can hold it and reach all the way across the screen with the same hand. I like being able to use my phone with only one hand available. Also, the Desire Z fits in my pockets easily. I'm not sure the One X will fit as easily.
- Development community
Like I said, I love tinkering with my device. The Desire Z is still supported by a huge amount of (great) developers. Will the One X stay supported as well?
- Hardware keyboard
I love my physical keyboard, but I find myself using it less and less.
Any One X users here that can alleviate my worries?
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Ok. I'll Do my best.
1. You can hold the Power Button 10 seconds and a battery pull is simulated. This works perfect. No need for a replacable battery for that.
2. Nothing to say. No way to use storage without phone Booted. You can adb push in recovery. Thats it. Love it or leave it.
3. In fact I had the same concerns. You'll need 10 minutes to get used to it. And all pants I own are hox compatible ;-) (i do wear thinght pants to...) But in fact it's again up to your likeing. Test it and if you don't like it, return it...
4. The community us growing. But to now sense 4 in ics is top of the line. So only space for mods and small improvements. At least there are some roms to test. We got official miui an cm9 is around the corner. I think the devs here are awesome and came up with great improvements. So expect big things to come ;-)
5. The soft keyboard on 4.7 inch is big enough to replace a hardware keyboard for me. And again, it's a question of loveing it or not. The keyboard is much bigger than the desire z's. I think it's more than an replacement. It's far better than a hardware keyboard.
I hope I was able to help you a bit with your concerns.
I would say there aren't any better phones to get by now. And the build quality is great. Also HTC has delivered some fast ota's.
In the end its up to you. Just my two cents...
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- No removable battery
You can hold down the power button for 10 seconds to simulate a battery pull. The battery is good and it'll last a whole day on medium usage. If you use it heavily (wth the screen on) for something like 4/5 hours straight with really heavy usage then you'll find you'll need a charger with you at least 2 times a day.
- No external SD
32GB onboard, Dropbox is 25GB storage which you can use to stream videos if you have an unlimited/high data plan. You can plug in the phone straight away which might be easier than taking a card out.
- Humongous screen
It'll fit in every pocket, i had the same concern as you but it really does fit in every one. The screen is ever so slightly too big to use with one hand, unless you have large hands. But you get used to it and it's really only the extreme corners of the screen you can't touch.
- Development community
It's HTC one and only flagship phone this year. Already loads of roms including MiUi and CM9 so it'll stay supported. Not S-OFF at the moment but give it some time.
- Hardware keyboard
Keyboard is large and easy to use. + android market has plenty of keyboards available. HTC keyboard also support swype input. Personally i use smart keyboard pro because it's clean.
Overall it's a great phone, but like i said, battery life is the only issue if you are a really really heavy user. (mine can go from 100% to dead in around 4 hours straight on screen time) But the new phones have excellent build quality and the design is nice and easy to hold. Software updates on the way to fix minor bugs.
The S3 is a good alternative, but we are yet to see how good it actually is compared to the One X. So if you need a phone now, go with the One X if you're conviced. If you have time see what people say during launch week of the S3.

thanks for the replies. The battery pull stuff was my biggest concern, glad that won't be a real issue. I've been looking at the galaxy s III, but while I like most of it I really miss the Tegra on that one. And, based on the photos, I think it is really ugly.

Quistnix said:
thanks for the replies. The battery pull stuff was my biggest concern, glad that won't be a real issue. I've been looking at the galaxy s III, but while I like most of it I really miss the Tegra on that one. And, based on the photos, I think it is really ugly.
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I just sold my one x to get s3. Multitasking was the deal breaker issue for me.
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How is it so far?

Hi all, haven't got one yet and still have my n7 (2012). They're are sold out right now at my local store. My question is what the title says. How is it? I haven't got the chance to get one in my hands yet. Is it leaps and bounds better!? I've read reviews and check forums and am still unsure if I want one. Any opinions are appreciated.
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Just read some of the threads.
There are some issues with the screens right now on some devices. Still worth the risk as it is a huge upgrade to the 2012 Nexus 7. No more lag, unbelievable screen, lighter, and thinner. Definitely worth the money.

Well, I usually do not do reviews of mainstream devices, since that is well covered by the "big boys",
But I was secretly waiting for an opportunity to make some comments:
In short, it is an incredible tablet.
Much nicer to hold than any other tablet I've owned/tried. I really like how thin it is, and the texture of the back.
I handed it to my son, and he loaded one of these games where you control something using the accelerometers. He has a Nook Color (With CM7), so he has a similar device to compare it too. He immediately commented how nice it was to hold and play the game.
The screen is incredible too. Way more resolution than my old eyes need, but even with my glasses things look great.
Web pages look more Desktop-like than any other tablet, including 10 inchers. Page rendering is also desktop fast. (Actually faster than this 10+ year old AMD machine I am typing on now, even with lots of RAM, and Xubuntu 12.04, which I credit with prolonging it's life this long).
WiFi, Works great with solid connections, great speed and lots of (indicated) signal. (As compared to other devices).
An iDM5 combination bluetooth speaker, and keyboard paired over BT with no problem at all. I am also using an Apple magic mouse. All re-connect quickly too.
Works (as one would expect) seemlessly with my Chromecast.
Another big plus for me was Standard USB charging. Pretty much anything charges it with no problem.
Now the complaints:
Yes, it has stereo speakers, but they are not that loud or great sounding. Using the EQ in Google Music does not help. Attempting to add Bass only causes it to sound muffled.
I have a Huawei u9508 with 2 speakers on the back, near the bottom (close together). It gives me more volume, more bass, and more stereo effect (OK, that last one may just be a perception thing).
Take the stereo speakers out of your purchasing decision. As of right now, it effectively does not have any better audio than a (than some) single speaker tablet(s).
To be clear (pun) The sound is by no means bad, it's just disapointing considering all the Fraunhofer hype.
Lack of an SD slot almost made me not buy the Nexus. I really miss it. I have a lot of things that use those cards, and not being able to just slot them in the Nexus is a big hit.
I also wish Google would stop "Apple-izing" things. Android had USB Storage mode for most of it's life. I wish it still did. Yes, there are work-arounds, and perhaps it is "safer" not to have it, but it is a clear case of "Defective by Design", in my opinion.
I miss the standard Android (AOSP) Browser and Music Player. (See these forums for installing the AOSP browser, and recommendations for other audio players.)
I do like the fact that it is (except for the Google Stuff) bloat-ware free. It is a very clean, fast, and good-looking factory ROM (I'm an Android purist.)
Also, you know that the community will support the device for years to come, whether or not Google does.
I have not tried Qi charging or NFC.
Should you buy one?
Well, you should not buy any other 7 inch tablet over this one -- I think that is pretty clear.
It is just a question if you need a (another) 7 inch tablet. In my case, I really needed a new tablet. My Archos 80 G9 was (something I cannot describe here with out getting banned) on the day it was made, and I had dissasembled it many times to fix broken USB connections, etc. Lately it would reboot everytime I squeezed the case a bit too hard.
Alternatives I concidered:
Acer A700 -- Same True HD resolution on a 10" screen -- SD card slot -- Dolby Stereo Speakers -- NVIDIA Tegra 3.
Chinese iFive X2 -- Same True HD resolution on an 8.9" screen -- SD card slot -- Front facing stereo speakers -- USB charging.
Say what you want about Chinese tablets, but the iFive X2 was the only one that really met my requirements (desirements). If you believe the iFive website, and some of the reviews, it actually looks like the build quality is pretty good. I may still buy one.

Awesome, zero complaints. Don't let all the negative threads get you down, mine arrived flawless shipped from New York to Ontario, Canada.
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In short, it is an incredible tablet.
Much nicer to hold than any other tablet I've owned/tried. I really like how thin it is, and the texture of the back.
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So true...
It was the first thing I noticed after opening the box and even after 1 week, I am still amazed by the weight, the texture and how fast everything is... Switching between apps is so fun now
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My God is it ever amazing. Such a huge upgrade over last gens model. It is a joy to do everything with this tablet. Feels and looks oh so premium as well. Unbelievable how it costs so little in comparison to other tablets. I don't want to type an extremely long review, but even if I did, words cannot express how happy I am with this tablet.
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Awesome.
I was convinced last year that the original nexus 7 was too small so I got the iPad mini which was great for 6+ months. After I downloaded iOS 7 I thought what a joke ios7 will be and in general for traveling the mini was a major pain(loading movies, documents etc for offline use).
So recently I replaced my mini with a note8 for 2 weeks traveling and thought this is a keeper...then the new nexus 7 came out and I picked it up with the plans to return it after some testing....WOW I ended up returning the note 8 and keeping the N7!
No regrets...love the form factor even with a few hiccups (sometimes screen will just pause for a second and rare crashes).
SO I am using my N7 so much I might sell my Samsung s4 and get something cheaper (I.e. nexus 4) since it just sits when at home.
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This is my first tablet ever. And the second android device. The first being HTC Desire, which after OC-ing didn't feel bad.
But I wanted something that could deliver superb performance without the whole process of rooting, unlocking and flashing. So I bought this one, and I can say that this one's the best I've used ever. I have had my hands on those iPads some of my friends have, but they don't sound all that convincing.
There have been no lags at all that I have been able to identify. But still, I'm planning on going through the fun of rooting unlocking and flashing process. Just because I'm a flashaholic.
Regarding the device itself, I have found that the display is more blue-oriented. It has a much colder display than my HTC Desire. But it does look good on it. The data transfer speeds are superb. No performance issues so far. Battery lasts about two days, since I don't actively use it, occasional wifi and browsing, but no more than that. I mainly read books on it, and have successfully devoured 5 books in two weeks (I'm an avid reader , never mind). Others have been facing Wifi issues, but not me. Mine seems adequate. I've got a 3mbps connection in my country, which is the fastest here
There is some dust on the upper left corner, but since there are no dead pixels, I haven't returned mine for the fear of getting a dead-pixels-infected one. I use the tablet without any external peripherals, apart from my custom made earphones, which give a good amount of clear sound with good levels of bass, even without any audio mod.
I don't use the stock things, no... That's right, I've never learned how to use those For music, I have PowerAmp, for movies, MXPlayer, for pictures, QuickPic, for internet, OperaMini, the legendary ES for file browsing, and upcoming root mode
So far, all these apps have been superb in performance at least compared to my HTC Desire.
I should probably be saluting Asus and Google, for this combined effort to hand us quadcore Snapdragon 1.5 GHz, HD display equipped, nice tablet for under 30k in my country.

Thanks for the in depth answers. Went and got one at office max Friday. Last one with too plus a 20% discount from my boys at drippler.. App. Haven't even opened it yet Lol waiting on my screen protector n case from amazon. Now what to do with the old one?
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