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Never really thought about Verizon but I'm to the point were I've had it with sprints ****ty service, so i got a few questions im a little hesitant about jumping to Verizon since their Android lineup seems lackluster (getting the nexus but probably only for a year then would get another phone) anybody hear anything about them acquiring better Android phones in the future, also been to the development section an don't see much activity going on for the LTE version any reason for this? Maybe due to how new it is? Any comments about Verizon as a service provider would be welcome also...
In my opinion, Verizon gets a pretty good lineup of phones. The Galaxy Nexus, Rezound, Razr, etc. As far as a carrier, very expensive but you get what you pay for.
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Verizon gets pretty good Android handsets IMO.
I just recently moved one of my AT&T lines to Verizon. Prior to that I was with Sprint. Sprint's data speeds were horrendous in my area and EVERY area in traveled too. I can't even imagine what its like after the Iphone release. Voice was always good on Sprint. AT&T's data blew sprint out of the water. Verizon is as good if not quite as fast 3g wise as AT&T but its incredibly reliable. 4g is blazing. 3g speeds are usually 1 - 1.8mbs on Verizon 3g. 4g pushes 15mbs. AT&T's 3g was anywhere from 800k to 4mbs. Verizon is definitely more stable and works in more places.
Both are leaps and bounds better than Sprint. Also with Sprints $10 premium add on its the same price as Verizon if you use Google voice or another data type service for texting. Which is what I do and saves me the $20 a month. I don't need many minutes since if I get low I can use google voice and GrooveIP for free minutes. Once its set up and configured it works great even over 3g.
In other words, jump ship the grass is greener. Sprint's service has taken a dump the last few years and they run a serious risk of bankruptcy before they can put all the spectrum they have to any real use. They have made one mistake after another after another for a long time now.
The LTE roms are on another site mostly.
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Thanks a lot guys ^^ its really between getting the LTE nexus or GSM on tmo, an whats the deal with the litte dev support for the LTE version?
*what site josh...?
i moved from AT&T to Verizon and havent looked back, love my GN, but other phones are respectable too,RAZR,REZOUND are good phones too depending on youre tastes
Rootzwiki, but if you have the choice, get the GSM version.. much better battery life.
Cool, thanks guys great input, how much better battery we talking about?
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Cool, thanks guys great input, how much better battery we talking about?
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Significant amount. LTE is quite the battery drain. All depending on use patterns of course.
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Significant amount. LTE is quite the battery drain. All depending on use patterns of course.
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It's really not that bad. I mean if you hammer it on LTE it will drain quicker than usual but it's not this destroyer of batteries that people make it out to be.
while LTE may destroy ur battery, u can always turn it off till u need it. there is plenty of dev support for the LTE version, and verizon's network coverage destroys all other three carriers put together.
also.. if u are going to pay for a data plan anyways, might as well enjoy the subsidy.
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whats the deal with the litte dev support for the LTE version?
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The GSM version works on all providers in all countries all over the earth. The LTE version works on one provider, in one country.
I think the GSM-model simply has what you may refer to as a "immensely much bigger user-base" and hence more developers than what's when you look at the cold, hard facts, is basically a carrier-phone, available on one carrier only.
If you travel out of the country often get GSM. Otherwise get the LTE model. People wanna make LTE out to be some battery black hole but its not. Sprint vs vzw is no contest. Verizon 3g is actually usable and 4g knocks my socks off. It maintains 25 megs on a heavily loaded network and gives me 50+ when its lightly loaded. Honestly development is not really a problem for me because ICS is so good.
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If you travel out of the country often get GSM. Otherwise get the LTE model. People wanna make LTE out to be some battery black hole but its not. Sprint vs vzw is no contest. Verizon 3g is actually usable and 4g knocks my socks off. It maintains 25 megs on a heavily loaded network and gives me 50+ when its lightly loaded. Honestly development is not really a problem for me because ICS is so good.
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I can't seem to get above 7 anywhere in Denver. Any chance its my phone?
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I can't seem to get above 7 anywhere in Denver. Any chance its my phone?
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It's going to vary largely due to many factors. What's your signal strength, how many other people are using 4G in your area, etc...
I was traveling through Baltimore, MD and was managing only 12 MBPS with 1 bar of signal strength on New Years Eve, which honestly, is easily more than enough for anything. Keep in mind, as time goes on, more people get 4G phones, and use them more, available bandwidth is going to go down anyway. I don't understand why people think they should get 20 MBPS anyway....what are you going to do? If you don't have an unlimited plan, what's the point? You'll use up the small amount of data allotment that you have so quick you'll never even know it.
Thanks guys i think i shall pick up the LTE tomorrow...
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Never really thought about Verizon but I'm to the point were I've had it with sprints ****ty service, so i got a few questions im a little hesitant about jumping to Verizon since their Android lineup seems lackluster (getting the nexus but probably only for a year then would get another phone) anybody hear anything about them acquiring better Android phones in the future, also been to the development section an don't see much activity going on for the LTE version any reason for this? Maybe due to how new it is? Any comments about Verizon as a service provider would be welcome also...
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I left Sprint for Verizon 3 months ago, and the extra cost is well worth it - it's like having a landline in my pocket.
As far as your assessment of the Android phone lineup, I'm not sure where you're coming from. I think they have a great lineup, although certainly it's slanted toward the Motorola line. With Google buy Motorola mobility, that should end up being a very good thing.
I also don't think they meddle with the phones nearly as much as ATT does - but I have no direct experience with ATT, just what my friends tell me.
I don't know about all your guys' locations but I live in Mesa, AZ (it is about 30 min from downtown Phoenix). I get VERY slow LTE in the city. Even with 2 bars I get ~5 down and 5 up. As far as signal strength, it isn't much different to any other 4G phones I have used. I get no data in my school's basement and the phone always seems to drop the data service. This morning I had 1X until I restarted the device. At a small town in east AZ, Verizon is the only one with data service, but it is VERY!!!! slow. 3G in Phoenix area is about .8 down (on a good day).
Was hesitant due to what im hearing about battery life on LTE, but i guess I'll deal with battery issue since i do want the 32gig option an I'm hearing nothing but good things about Verizon, any other differences between LTE an GSM version?
I drop Sprint and made the switch to Verizon. I had nothing but network problems on Sprint, crappy speed on 3g/4g network. But one thing I can say is once you make the switch to an LTE phone you’ll never go back to regular 3g/4g service! is like going from DVD to bluray.
Maybe I missed this but I didn't think that Sprints 3G service allowed for simultaneous voice and data.
I'm in Canton, Ohio and I just noticed that today I'm able to both use the phone and browse the Web at the same time without WIFI.
I can only assume that this is a network vision thing. LTE isn't in my future for a little while but I thought this was a good sign. Anyone else notice this?
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I noticed this in STL over the weekend, I am not sure how long it has been this way because like you I "knew" it didn't work so never tried it. I just happened to get an email while on a call.
SVDO isn't a network feature or capability. It's only dependent on the phone having multiple data and voice antennas, and the Galaxy S3 does.
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SVDO isn't a network feature or capability. It's only dependent on the phone having multiple data and voice antennas, and the Galaxy S3 does.
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So I can use data while on the phone with my Galaxy SIII??? Wow, that's AWESOME!:good:
Going to have to try this out once I'm in an area that isn't being 'visioned'.....right now I don't have connectivity even though my phone says that I do.
I found out the same way you guys did (im in Tampa) and did some reading and was really surprised to find out that our phones did out the box....made me love the phone even more.
Yes. Today. I received a call while downloading and it still downloading...nice.
Not like my Epic4g downloading a file 100mb and on 92mb some call you to say Hi!
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This statement isn't exactly true. It is both a phone and network feature. The towers need to accept multiple connections from the same phone id, as well as the phone needs to have the multi channel capabilities. Sprint used to block this, but doesn't anymore.
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Maybe I missed this but I didn't think that Sprints 3G service allowed for simultaneous voice and data.
I'm in Canton, Ohio and I just noticed that today I'm able to both use the phone and browse the Web at the same time without WIFI.
I can only assume that this is a network vision thing. LTE isn't in my future for a little while but I thought this was a good sign. Anyone else notice this?
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Reading this thread I thought you have all gone bonkers, but since my sgs3 is not connected yet I couldn't test this myself. Well my coworker has the evo lte.....hmm they have the same internals so I got him to try, it certainly does work. This feature is not advertised, would be hilarious if sprint didn't even know this.
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Reading this thread I thought you have all gone bonkers, but since my sgs3 is not connected yet I couldn't test this myself. Well my coworker has the evo lte.....hmm they have the same internals so I got him to try, it certainly does work. This feature is not advertised, would be hilarious if sprint didn't even know this.
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I noticed it just today as well, and lo and behold here's this thread! So I called sprint here a few minutes ago and asked the rep if they knew of it working.
They didn't. ROFL!
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I noticed it just today as well, and lo and behold here's this thread! So I called sprint here a few minutes ago and asked the rep if they knew of it working.
They didn't. ROFL!
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lmfao...another thought is this is not a part of the vision upgrade, just something to do with the s4 soc , I bet Verizons sgs3 along wIth other snapdragon powered phones can do it as well
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Reading this thread I thought you have all gone bonkers, but since my sgs3 is not connected yet I couldn't test this myself. Well my coworker has the evo lte.....hmm they have the same internals so I got him to try, it certainly does work. This feature is not advertised, would be hilarious if sprint didn't even know this.
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I don't know anything about Samsung ads, but the SVDO capability is listed in all the spec sheets I've seen. Sprint had to request the capability from Samsung, so Sprint must know the feature is included.
This was discussed many times since this phone was released. Shows how much people search and or research their own phone.
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This was discussed many times since this phone was released. Shows how much people search and or research their own phone.
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Ha. When Sprint activates HD Voice, I anticipate a ton of threads with people asking why voice calls don't sound better on the S3. Then, they'll throw a fit when they're told the S3 doesn't support it. It's just like all the people in non-LTE areas asking why their 4G no longer works even though they had full signal on their Evo or Epic 4G. No one wants to spend time researching their purchases.
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I have to admin that when I finally switched from my blackberry to the S3, I was so used to having wifi on that when I was on a call and my email was still coming in or I was able to launch a browser and look things up, I nearly went crazy. Being in IT I never looked up the phone specs to be honest other than being highly anxious to install applications from the Play Store and do things I couldn't do with my old device. Now I'm just looking for a good rom to root the device for wifi, lol.
I've been driving iSheep off the iphone5 with specifically this feature (not that there aren't at least a dozen more. I think that with the financial future of Sprint in the hands of Apple and the sales of iPhones the lack of dual antennas because it has a 'dynamic antenna' is going to cripple anyone who needs/wants that feature. To me SVDO is something that killed me when we didn't have it and now that I do I can never go without it.
Is anybody can explain then why when streaming the radio if I receive a text massage the radio stops (I know because of that ring) but it goes to buffer and chokes till start streaming again. This is the same as any other phone before so SVDS no benefit here.
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Is anybody can explain then why when streaming the radio if I receive a text massage the radio stops (I know because of that ring) but it goes to buffer and chokes till start streaming again. This is the same as any other phone before so SVDS no benefit here.
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Mine doesnt choke after resuming pandora but at other times it chokes. Its just pandora not anything related svdo
Anyone know if the Sprint
Galaxy S4 will also do simultaneous voice and data on 3G like the S3 does?
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No. The chipset does not support the SVDO capability.
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/entry-343-a-short-time-from-now-in-a-galaxy-not-far-away/
As for simultaneous voice and data, the Galaxy S4 does support SVLTE but is the latest in a long line of Sprint LTE handsets now to forgo SVDO. Realistically, this comes as no great surprise, as we have not seen SVDO capability in any new handset since last summer. Either this is a limitation of the Qualcomm MDM9615 baseband modem that has become standard equipment or SVDO is no longer a strong priority as Sprint LTE coverage grows weekly. Regardless, CDMA1X and EV-DO share a transmit path (indicated in the FCC OET diagram above); hence, simultaneous CDMA1X voice and EV-DO data is not supported.
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hello all wow thats all I can say. all these readings show no voice and data call over sprints cdma network on any phone. so I did some research call sprint yes I know crazy right they said yes on 4g, then I went into a sprint store again crazy right how come sprint does not seem to really know anything about their phones crazy right! anyway the store said no. So I tested it I made sure I was on spring 4g network. my wifi off I placed a call told the person to keep talking, I pressed on my internet icon on my phone and guess what it worked a voice and data call over the sprint network while on 4g. my question is why is this not toted by sprint like it is by att? and why does sprint techs do not have a strong definitive answer I mean come on this is a easy test! anyway just wanted to spread the word and see if others have same result. pulling my hair out grrrrrrr and guess what I'm bald!
test it out folks remember turn of wifi! make sure u r getting 4g.
my 4g phone sprint phone, samsung galaxy s2 4g.
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hello all wow thats all I can say. all these readings show no voice and data call over sprints cdma network on any phone. so I did some research call sprint yes I know crazy right they said yes on 4g, then I went into a sprint store again crazy right how come sprint does not seem to really know anything about their phones crazy right! anyway the store said no. So I tested it I made sure I was on spring 4g network. my wifi off I placed a call told the person to keep talking, I pressed on my internet icon on my phone and guess what it worked a voice and data call over the sprint network while on 4g. my question is why is this not toted by sprint like it is by att? and why does sprint techs do not have a strong definitive answer I mean come on this is a easy test! anyway just wanted to spread the word and see if others have same result. pulling my hair out grrrrrrr and guess what I'm bald!
test it out folks remember turn of wifi! make sure u r getting 4g.
my 4g phone sprint phone, samsung galaxy s2 4g.
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That's nice.
There should be no Sprint users perusing this forum though, as this forum is for the GT-I9100, which is a GSM phone that doesn't even work on Sprint's network.
Maybe you want to trumpet this news in the Epic 4G Touch forum?
EDIT: ah, it finally got moved to the right forum.
Thanks for the info but honestly this is quite old news and has been known since the Evo days. Use of Wimax is so limited is the main reason I can see why anyone not knowing but rest assure this is old news. Although as an fyi - the new Galaxy SIII handles voice and data separately over 3g so now you can use data and voice on 3g as well with that phone
I upgraded from the ET4G which has WiMax 4g. There is a 4g tower literally 1/4 mile down my street and i was getting an average of 8-10Mb/sec download speed under Wimax.
I ASSUMED... (thats where i went wrong) I purchased the Note 2, and thought there was the 3g, 4g WiMAX, and 4g LTE modes/antennas. Nope. So now that I have the Note 2 without LTE in my area, I'm stuck with HORRIBLE 3g (CDMA) speeds. No more HD Netflix or even a reliable connection to Pandora (high quality).
I live in South Bay Silicon valley area in California. Now I have to WAIT until LTE rolls out before I can use a data connection speed over 100k/sec. I cant believe they made this phone without the ability to connect to WiMAX 4g. I suppose WiMAX 4g will trashed once LTE rolls out and that would be a waste of hardware in the phone but there was no warning in the tech specs or Sprint reps.
Just warning to all out there wanting to upgrade the the Galaxy Note 2 where LTE is not available but have WiMAX speeds. The phone will NOT pick up WiMAX 4G. I would have waited to upgrade. =(
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I upgraded from the ET4G which has standard 4g. There is a 4g tower literally 1/4 mile down my street and i was getting an average of 8-10Mb/sec download speed under 4g.
I ASSUMED... (thats where i went wrong) I purchased the Note 2, and thought there was the 3g, 4g, and 4g LTE modes/antennas. Nope. So now that I have the Note 2 without LTE in my area, I'm stuck with HORRIBLE 3g (CDMA) speeds. No more HD Netflix or even a reliable connection to Pandora (high quality).
I live in South Bay Silicon valley area in California. Now I have to WAIT until LTE rolls out before I can use a data connection speed over 100k/sec. I cant believe they made this phone without the ability to connect to standard 4g. I supposed 4g will trashed once LTE rolls aout and that would be a waste of hardware in the phone but there was no warning in the tech specs or Sprint reps.
Just warning to all out there wanting to upgrade the the Galaxy Note 2 where LTE is not available but have standard 4g speeds. The phone will NOT pick up 4G. I would have waited to upgrade. =(
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You could always switch back to the epic 4G Touch until LTE arrives and use the note 2 as a WiFi device.
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woah, seriously? I had no idea this was the case... major bummer. I wonder if custom ROMs have the option?
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You could always switch back to the epic 4G Touch until LTE arrives and use the note 2 as a WiFi device.
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Very true, I was just hoping to sell it for $200 and make some money back off the the beastly Note 2 price (on contract when purchased). Its so sad, I'm so used to looking at the 720p screen, it makes the E4GT look so much like a girly phone. =) I read some articles on how fast the 4g LTE should be coming out with wider coverage, I guess LTE is supposed to cover just about everywhere that has 3G coverage. Just a matter of time.Since the Optimus G and the Note 2 are being released, they are pushing LTE as "quick as they can" supposedly.
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woah, seriously? I had no idea this was the case... major bummer. I wonder if custom ROMs have the option?
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I checked as best I could. I went into the phones hidden menu using the MSL code and checked the settings. There is no mode for 4G and 4G LTE separately. Sprint tech support also confirmed this (which I don't believe the crap they say). I gave them a hard time because I had a very hard time believing that that phone would not pickup standard 4G.
The app called 'PHONE INFO' on the market show you all your options for radio settings also.
A simple, quick google search would have confirmed that this phone does not have a WiMAX antenna... Samsung tried the best they could to standardize the hardware - not only across carriers but globally as well.
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A simple, quick google search would have confirmed that this phone does not have a WiMAX antenna... Samsung tried the best they could to standardize the hardware - not only across carriers but globally as well.
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Thats why I used the words 'I ASSUMED' It makes sense to have WiMAX built in. A normal person would assume it would hence the posting. Just a warning thread.
You wouldn't think to check if, 4G would work on a 4G LTE phone.
Not to piss on ur rant bit its been said a million times by sprint and everyone else no new wimax devices wayyy back before evo lte launched its kinda a no Brainer, that this device wouldn't have wimax jus sayin
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Not to piss on ur rant bit its been said a million times by sprint and everyone else no new wimax devices wayyy back before evo lte launched its kinda a no Brainer, that this device wouldn't have wimax jus sayin
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Obviously my fault with not keeping up with tech specs. I stayed on T-mobile after switching from Sprint just phone their line of phones and recently came back to Sprint. GSM is alot more simple.
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I checked as best I could. I went into the phones hidden menu using the MSL code and checked the settings. There is no mode for 4G and 4G LTE separately. Sprint tech support also confirmed this (which I don't believe the crap they say). I gave them a hard time because I had a very hard time believing that that phone would not pickup standard 4G.
The app called 'PHONE INFO' on the market show you all your options for radio settings also.
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Even though I was basically without 4G since the inception, I am glad that they didnt include a WiMax radio on this phone. It is a battery leach (so it was always turned off) and I would not want to change the battery life of this phone ever. I am right now on 1 day 5 hours with about 15% left on this battery charge.
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Even though I was basically without 4G since the inception, I am glad that they didnt include a WiMax radio on this phone. It is a battery leach (so it was always turned off) and I would not want to change the battery life of this phone ever. I am right now on 1 day 5 hours with about 15% left on this battery charge.
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Yes, WiMAX was a leach! At least the specs for battery life are close to 3g battery life. Something i can look forward to.
Not claiming the validity of the thread but I only have one problem which is the OP calling WiMax a standard 4G. So far only LTE Advanced (not a regular LTE) is capable of such standard.
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Not claiming the validity of the thread but I only have one problem which is the OP calling WiMax a standard 4G. So far only LTE Advanced (not a regular LTE) is capable of such standard.
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I was thinking about correcting that but i figure people got the idea.... ill go ahead and change that...
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the sprint s3 the same way? Lte only, no wimax?
I'm sorry about this, but honestly this was a no Brainer. Once sprint signed on with lte, wimax was done. To expect them to put a battery draining radio they had no intention of continuing with (known for a very long time) would be unrealistic.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the sprint s3 the same way? Lte only, no wimax?
I'm sorry about this, but honestly this was a no Brainer. Once sprint signed on with lte, wimax was done. To expect them to put a battery draining radio they had no intention of continuing with (known for a very long time) would be unrealistic.
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I've been following the thread since the first page and have been waiting for someone to post exactly this. Complete no brainer IMO
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I've been following the thread since the first page and have been waiting for someone to post exactly this. Complete no brainer IMO
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Ah, oh well. I should have kept up with the High speed specs of LTE and WiMAX. I just went out and bought the lastest and greatest. I'm your typical "USER". I did some searching. obviously AFTER the fact and it seems I'm not the only one which make me feel a bit better about getting flamed.
It's not a big deal, and in fact, I'm a bit surprised you didn't get hammered sooner and harder. I'm thinking these forums are not as active or less forgiving than say the development forums.
Enjoy your new toy, I'm jealous but I'm holding off till development is further along.
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This is coming from a 4 year XDA vet? Really? Wow...
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It's not a big deal, and in fact, I'm a bit surprised you didn't get hammered sooner and harder. I'm thinking these forums are not as active or less forgiving than say the development forums.
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Duh
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Duh
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Lol! Just gonna leave leave the thread open to how much my rectum can take...
Since I purchased the phone in October I figured it was normal to NOT be able to talk and use your data... Wifi worked fine but I could never browse when I am on a call (4g etc), which was frustrating while trying to use maps. My phone was literally the first in the door at my store.
This was pre-root, and even now after Root and custom (Jedi Rom). Other than that my phone works flawless, not problems ever.
Now I may have to flash to stock rom, Reset my counter and unroot my device (such a hassle)
I am on the Monthly 4G plan with T-mo ($60)
Suggestions?
Any basic tests should I run?
Can Technical service tell I am rooted if I call them up?
Are you sure you're not on EDGE?
EDGE doesn't support simultaneous voice and data.
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This is the first time I've ever heard of this since I've been able to talk and use data even since the G1 days. I thought the only one who couldn't do that was Verizon.
Are you sure you were on EDGE back in those days?
Do a little Google search, there's hundreds of pages saying the same thing. There's even an ATT FAQ addressing it.
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This is the first time I've ever heard of this since I've been able to talk and use data even since the G1 days. I thought the only one who couldn't do that was Verizon.
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+1 been doing it since the mt3g phone after the g1 if you don't know lol I think its funny seeing those lame at&t iPhone commercials talking about surfing the web and talking at the same time... Been doing it for years you guys are a little behind lol
Was able to do this back on my g2x, usually be able to use Internet for couple minutes while on a call and then I guess the network would eventually "catch me" and it would stop working..
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Nice working just fine for me, stock un rooted. I thought AT&T was the only company that had this?
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Nice working just fine for me, stock un rooted. I thought AT&T was the only company that had this?
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Not to be a jerk but made me laugh lol we've had this for many many years.... I'm sure it worked with the g1 can't confirm cause I didn't own it but it worked with the original mytouch3g basically a g1 with no keyboard. Been talking on speaker and googling at the same time for years... Can even use the multi window and talk and surf if you wish to do it that way ...
I always thought the difference was in the technology the carrier used,
it was my impression that companies that relied on CDMA technologies, such as sprint, verizon, boost, etc, couldn't, but GSM companies could, i.e. at&t, t-mobile.
either way, if it never worked for me, i would just flash the stock rom available in the forums and hop on the phone to have a nice long conversation about what we would do to rectify this situation.
You're all missing the point, all the phones you're talking about are 3g phones, Even the venerable old G1 was 3g.
3g phones can talk and data at the same time as long as the data is on the 3g network. If you're in an area without any data service available besides edge, you will not be able to talk and do data simultaneously, whatever phone you have. That's true on any GSM network, unless you have some kind of phone that has multiple radios.
The reason the original non 3g iPhone could not do voice and data simultaneously was because it didn't have 3g. It was an edge only device. Nothing to do with being AT&T or anything like that. CDMA phones have some more limitations until the recent inclusion of multiple radios in the device, which I think started with the Thunderbolt.
The original iPhone was an amazing device for its time, big screen, no keyboard. I was happy to have one for years, but when the Nexus One came out Android has pulled studly ahead and never looked back.
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Yup. Even the g1 that I had could talk and use data at the same time. I was excited when I got the g2 because it had 4g ...until I realized the location I had moved to only got edge. Lol.
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distortedloop said:
You're all missing the point, all the phones you're talking about are 3g phones, Even the venerable old G1 was 3g.
3g phones can talk and data at the same time as long as the data is on the 3g network. If you're in an area without any data service available besides edge, you will not be able to talk and do data simultaneously, whatever phone you have. That's true on any GSM network, unless you have some kind of phone that has multiple radios.
The reason the original non 3g iPhone could not do voice and data simultaneously was because it didn't have 3g. It was an edge only device. Nothing to do with being AT&T or anything like that. CDMA phones have some more limitations until the recent inclusion of multiple radios in the device, which I think started with the Thunderbolt.
The original iPhone was an amazing device for its time, big screen, no keyboard. I was happy to have one for years, but when the Nexus One came out Android has pulled studly ahead and never looked back.
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Yes we know we are talking about 3g phones android had it right to begin with unlike apple... I did though have the first iPhone till I dropped it and half the screen decided to stop working... Lame crap! all in all we could talk and surf web for a long time and when phones were made with only edge there was not many devices that had worthy web browsing capabilities anyway. Don't think I'll ever go to CDMA I enjoy my sim cards and not relying on calling customer service to switch phones...
skater4690 said:
Not to be a jerk but made me laugh lol we've had this for many many years.... I'm sure it worked with the g1 can't confirm cause I didn't own it but it worked with the original mytouch3g basically a g1 with no keyboard. Been talking on speaker and googling at the same time for years... Can even use the multi window and talk and surf if you wish to do it that way ...
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You're not being a jerk I could care less everyone's entitled to their own opinion. Other then my GS3 I've only ever used iPhones with TMobile, and running on edge I know for a fact that never worked because I've tried it. This is the first time I tried it since I've been away from the iPhone
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Yes we know we are talking about 3g phones android had it right to begin with unlike apple... I did though have the first iPhone till I dropped it and half the screen decided to stop working... Lame crap! all in all we could talk and surf web for a long time and when phones were made with only edge there was not many devices that had worthy web browsing capabilities anyway. Don't think I'll ever go to CDMA I enjoy my sim cards and not relying on calling customer service to switch phones...
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The G1, the first Android powered phone, wasn't released until 15 months after the first iPhone; it better have done things better with that much longer time to market, don't you think? iPhone users were happily using large screen, thin form factor phones for a very long time while Android was just a dream. Your also not up to speed on VZW's current phones it seems. While they do use CDMA for the voice, the data side of the phone is GSM (LTE), and you no longer need to call customer service to switch your phone as long as you're on an LTE device, which all their newer phones are. I routinely swap SIMs among multiple VZW phones, it works just like GSM, number and account go with the SIM, not the phone.
You're still missing the point. The original post complains of not being able to talk and data simultaneously. I asked if he was sure he wasn't on EDGE, then the thread devolved into a bunch of "iPhone and AT&T sucks because my old 3G phone has always been able to do voice and data simultaneously." Totally irrelevant, even if you think iPhone and AT&T suck, because it has nothing to do with the original problem. Great, your old G1 did talk/data same time, how does that help the OP fix his problem?
As for all the Apple/AT&T hate from others, whatever blows your skirt up, I guess. AT&T has its faults, and its wins. Their network is a hell of a lot better at pushing a signal into every large building/mall/structure I go to here in Los Angeles' suburbs; most of them I get ZERO signal with my T-Mo Note 2. Verizon beats both, you pay a premium, but if you need a signal, VZW is best at getting it to you. I have high-end active phones on all three networks, and often do side-by-side compares. In my office building in Santa Clarita I have to use my VZW GS3 as a hotspot to get data flowing to my Note 2!
Re: the iPhone original being EDGE only. As I recall, in 2006 when the iPhone was being developed, and in 2007 when it was launched, 3G was only in a few major markets; releasing a 3G phone then would only have benefited a lesser portion of the customer. Apple tends to play it safe on a newer, more power hungry technologies to save battery. It's a design choice that most of their customers are happy with.
Anyways, back to the original post, technical support can tell you're on a different ROM if they ask questions about software details from the About screen and they don't match what the non-root phone should have.