Guys,
I know there are many posts like this, but to be clear some of those who prefer to stick to desire rather than one x are hoping for sense 4 including me. Unfortunately shaky discontinued his work and no one is interested so I speak for those sense 4 fanatics that we hope this project is continued again, no ETAs no nagging.
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panpjp said:
no ETAs no nagging.
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Good luck on this. Just on the other thread I saw someone pleading for Sense 4 like his entire life is depending on it.
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Guys,
I know there are many posts like this
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most of them locked, why open another? why cant people just let it go?
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I guess some things are too much of a trouble for the devs, think audio was the main issue apart from other stuff of course. And yeah, let it go dude there are already decent ICS roms out there if u want ICS... Btw if you plan on investing in a decent budget phone with Sense 4 I would suggest the One V - bought it for my girlfriend a few months ago and she loves it! And to be quite honest it simply delivers - it is very smooth and fluid, you get the whole sense 4 experience with a very few corners cut, being a few animations here and there and the helicopter view.
I think we can port desire V rom to desire,the spec of desire v is similar than desire
Yes it was a suicide. It didn't find the sense of life.
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rommanager said:
I think we can port desire V rom to desire,the spec of desire v is similar than desire
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If you keep saying that, you'll never port sense 4.
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erklat said:
If you keep saying that, you'll never port sense 4.
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I try to port it but unflashable so I want someone help
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I guess some things are too much of a trouble for the devs, think audio was the main issue apart from other stuff of course. And yeah, let it go dude there are already decent ICS roms out there if u want ICS... Btw if you plan on investing in a decent budget phone with Sense 4 I would suggest the One V - bought it for my girlfriend a few months ago and she loves it! And to be quite honest it simply delivers - it is very smooth and fluid, you get the whole sense 4 experience with a very few corners cut, being a few animations here and there and the helicopter view.
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My friend said one v is super laggy and that is what I first planned to buy but already spent all my money on fixing desire motherboard :sly:
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Related
I was able to boot up Blissymede V1 in my desire from here.. (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1285099)
It has beats included in it and it works fine. I saw some comments regarding its volume at the development threads, its right that its sound is abit low compared to other roms and when i installed DSPManager and configured its Headset Virtual Room Effect to Large room or just room, the volume was considerably louder.
I am so happy, now my beats earphone is loving its companion in my desire!! Thanks to the developer coolexe and shubhamchamaria and everyone who makes this xda community the best!! Cheers!!
maybe you should post it in the thread for the rom to help the other users
also under equalizer turn loudness compensation to strongest then its alot better
Would the beats software work as the technology isn't present in the phone?
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elliottg61 said:
maybe you should post it in the thread for the rom to help the other users
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Maybe he can't!! because he has only 2 posts.
super34 said:
Maybe he can't!! because he has only 2 posts.
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Yes, you are right, could not post it. I need at least 10 posts before i can post it there. so i posted this here
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Would the beats software work as the technology isn't present in the phone?
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I dont know about that but all i have felt after using it is, it certainly gives out high performance audio with every tiny details the artist has added in the song for us to hear. That makes it so so different than normal softwares.
Cool to know. As the stock music apps have been pretty damn poor. Although the HTC dhd music app was ok. Although i will probably still use doubletwist as i have purchased the "air sync" feature which i love.
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Cool to know. As the stock music apps have been pretty damn poor. Although the HTC dhd music app was ok. Although i will probably still use doubletwist as i have purchased the "air sync" feature which i love.
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oh yes, double twist is also a good one. Syncing is so easy with it. Enjoy the music mate
I may have to try this rom out. Cheers mate.
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I may have to try this rom out. Cheers mate.
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I am pretty sure you will like the sound quality but be warned rom gets sluggish sometimes!! All the best
Yeah I have an issue with the sense3.0 and3.5 roms for doing that. I have mentioned that in my thread. But I will still give it a go.
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Yeah I have an issue with the sense3.0 and3.5 roms for doing that. I have mentioned that in my thread. But I will still give it a go.
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Have you tried it yet??
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also under equalizer turn loudness compensation to strongest then its alot better
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oh ya, thats right!!
I haven't tried it yet. But will do when I get home from work. I wonder if I could pull the software from the Rom and flash it to my supernova Rom as a zip!?!?
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If you can, please send me the zip as well please!!
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I haven't tried it yet. But will do when I get home from work. I wonder if I could pull the software from the Rom and flash it to my supernova Rom as a zip!?!?
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Actually I got desire HD now so no worries!
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but too bad still lots of bugs in the rom hard for everyday use
Want to try it too but the UI of all the 3 & 3.5 sense roms are too slow for my daily Rom :-( let's hope someone will be able to port it and in other roms.
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Kalevi you're brave going to dhd as that's been around a year and a bit now. I'm being patient. Lol
And I guessed that it will.be pretty buggy. Which is a shame. But the desire wasn't built for that unfortunately.
I bet this Rom that is ported to the HTC hero is sooooo slow. Lol
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I'm using incredible s .. I'm preferring to buy one x 32gb .. is this worth ? are the development team in one x are effective ? do the custom roms are great and rom support is frequently to this device ah? plz help me friends !
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It's like asking a little girl....do you like candy
!!!!!!!
Pfffff really ! Get a grip !
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I'm using incredible s .. I'm preferring to buy one x 32gb .. is this worth ? are the development team in one x are effective ? do the custom roms are great and rom support is frequently to this device ah? plz help me friends !
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Well, you know - at the end it is your decision.
But - just for your information - I came from DHD ( let`s say a "brother"of Incredible S) and I am very satisfy from my new One X.
Of course there are some disadvantages - eg. locked system end such, but I believe that sooner or latter we will have fully unlocked device and we will use it as we want.
So, in summary - my advice is: GO FOR IT!
Regards.
When i bought my One X I thought it was the best phone in the market but now I would say I'd rather go with Nexus 4
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I'm using incredible s .. I'm preferring to buy one x 32gb .. is this worth ? are the development team in one x are effective ? do the custom roms are great and rom support is frequently to this device ah? plz help me friends !
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Just buy it and install Android Revolution HD rom - the most popular rom for HTC ONE X. Link here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1562603
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Hi there, I think you should keep your incredible s and your hard earned cash. Buying a new phone will mot make you a better person or make you any happier.
You can't help it though....your gonna get one!
Now I would prefer nexus 4, because it is little bit better and much cheaper... Google kills with price
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Zlotin said:
Now I would prefer nexus 4, because it is little bit better and much cheaper... Google kills with price
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It's hard to say because I'm HTC user but You are right... Nexus will be good alternative... money,money,money
Don't buy it, the device sucks big time. :cyclops:
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I'm using incredible s .. I'm preferring to buy one x 32gb .. is this worth ? are the development team in one x are effective ? do the custom roms are great and rom support is frequently to this device ah? plz help me friends !
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Ya you should buy it.. totally worth it and got some great looking roms.. I'm using ARHD and it rocks \\m//. Lots of custom kernel and mods.
Probably if you want a One X you should get a One X+ at this time.
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Probably if you want a One X you should get a One X+ at this time.
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Get either one,you cannot go wrong.onex+ is ofcourse marginally better.
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TBH this forum seems a bit lonely... and my EpicParts question was easily abandoned
Whatever, greetings and happy new year to every one out there!
Today I happen to dig out a Sense 4 ROM for our E4G which boots, doesn't reboot THAT often and is resized well (what, you want links? I think that's a private workspace and maybe I shouldn't tell). But what bugs me most is that SystemUI (statusbar) always FCs for no reason and I can't do anything with that.
So here I got a HTC Incredible S ("vivo", which is the port base for our Sense 2.1 ROM) with a fully-functional Sense 4.1 build. Everything's working and things are better sized for WVGA. And it's smooth. Considering it's a single core device, I think there is already no obstacle blocking the port (I know that Sense4All project paused because One X is a quad core device and gets all sorts of reboots. Correct me if I'm wrong).
Thus, I wanna ask, as a non-coding noob:
1) Is porting process the same as common tutorials (copying frameworks, libs, etc)?
2) If not, is this even possible (to have Sense 4.1 ported from vivo)?
3) If not, again, what can I do to improve my current build on hand (i.e. simply stopping the SystemUI FC and maybe adding more HWA)? I don't intend to use the ROM as a daily driver... Just a tool for showing off
So... Thanks again for reading the thread and hope you can offer some guidance
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If there was a stable version of Sense 2.1 or 4.0, it would be my daily driver. I really hope this project isn't abandoned.
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If there was a stable version of Sense 2.1 or 4.0, it would be my daily driver. I really hope this project isn't abandoned.
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2.1 is already very usable apart from BT (nah I don't use that), but many devs have already left or are silent. Must be with their new toys. That's why I'm trying to help. If I had time in winter vacation I'll try a bit, but hope not too high
And so I need some guidance and answers... Please. Even one answer will do.
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AndyYan said:
2.1 is already very usable apart from BT (nah I don't use that), but many devs have already left or are silent. Must be with their new toys. That's why I'm trying to help. If I had time in winter vacation I'll try a bit, but hope not too high
And so I need some guidance and answers... Please. Even one answer will do.
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You can try to pickup where our last dev left off,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1717089&page=18
The issue last reported by xboxfanj was that he too, got many force-closes.
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You can try to pickup where our last dev left off,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1717089&page=18
The issue last reported by xboxfanj was that he too, got many force-closes.
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I do want to, but I'm not a code dev and know almost nothing except that "brute-force" porting method, and I don't know whether that will work.
I mean, here I got a fully working Sense 4 build on a SINGLE-CORE device, so is this a proof that porting to us is also possible?
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You ported sense 4 to an htc phpne which is much easier than porting it to something not even close to compatible with the hardware so it will be more difficult
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phonehunter59 said:
You ported sense 4 to an htc phpne which is much easier than porting it to something not even close to compatible with the hardware so it will be more difficult
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But... I said
1) We HAD a now paused project that has ported Sense 4 and made it boot
2) I have a better Sense 4 base ROM (for our device, not HTC's) at hand with fewer random FCs
3) xboxfanj said that the port reboots because One X is quad core, and the ROM will keep searching for the extra cores. But IncS is single core and runs that beautifully (its port is based on One V and Desire X)
And that's why I'm seeking answers.
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But... I said
1) We HAD a now paused project that has ported Sense 4 and made it boot
2) I have a better Sense 4 base ROM (for our device, not HTC's) at hand with fewer random FCs
3) xboxfanj said that the port reboots because One X is quad core, and the ROM will keep searching for the extra cores. But IncS is single core and runs that beautifully (its port is based on One V and Desire X)
And that's why I'm seeking answers.
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Part of the problem is that we couldn't port qualcomm roms which would be stable if they booted, but we never got it booting. Tegra is all intercoded into libs and looks for kernel files we don't have which causes it to reboot and be unstable.
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Part of the problem is that we couldn't port qualcomm roms which would be stable if they booted, but we never got it booting.
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...And why?
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...And why?
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To be honest, we never quite figured it out. We never got a proper logcat, since it only gave us unhelpful information, which means it doesn't even start to fully boot.
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To be honest, we never quite figured it out. We never got a proper logcat, since it only gave us unhelpful information, which means it doesn't even start to fully boot.
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And this means all my expectes efforts should be in vain, huh?
But check this, I got a Sense 4 ROM from marcusant's site and it's a port from Desire Z, based on One V seemingly. So far apart from all the hardware issues (wifi, cam, sensor), only thing that prevented me from sticking to it is that SystemUI often FCs. And I think that is another base to start on, since IT'S QUALCOMM.
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And this means all my expectes efforts should be in vain, huh?
But check this, I got a Sense 4 ROM from marcusant's site and it's a port from Desire Z, based on One V seemingly. So far apart from all the hardware issues (wifi, cam, sensor), only thing that prevented me from sticking to it is that SystemUI often FCs. And I think that is another base to start on, since IT'S QUALCOMM.
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What it called? I must have made that but i don't remember
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What it called? I must have made that but i don't remember
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And I think that must be your ROM 'cuz I've never heard of Marcusant doing that...
It's SpiderSense.
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And I think that must be your ROM 'cuz I've never heard of Marcusant doing that...
It's SpiderSense.
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I think that is just the original ROM but with modified app and framework.
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I think that is just the original ROM but with modified app and framework.
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Is that so? There are two items in About Phone indicating phone model. One of them says "HTC One V", which I think is the port source, while the other says "HTC Desire Z", which is the device ported to I assume. I know that these can be modded, but why the hell does anyone take the trouble to mod it to Desire Z when we are Epic 4G? Thus I think it's a Qualcomm port.
Have you looked into it yet? Or maybe it's really your work and you know about it?
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Is that so? There are two items in About Phone indicating phone model. One of them says "HTC One V", which I think is the port source, while the other says "HTC Desire Z", which is the device ported to I assume. I know that these can be modded, but why the hell does anyone take the trouble to mod it to Desire Z when we are Epic 4G? Thus I think it's a Qualcomm port.
Have you looked into it yet? Or maybe it's really your work and you know about it?
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I had probably used the desire z build prop as well so it used some lines for our resolution. It's definitely my work. I remember making it..
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I had probably used the desire z build prop as well so it used some lines for our resolution. It's definitely my work. I remember making it..
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...So this means I should give up on that huh? Sigh.
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You're only limited to the limits you place upon yourself, research, persevere, and you may get it working.
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You're only limited to the limits you place upon yourself, research, persevere, and you may get it working.
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Thanks for the encouragement, dude, but Senior III is extremely stressful in China, so I don't have time to look into anything that serious for now.
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Hey Guys!
I was just wondering whether any developers are working on porting Sense 5.0 to the HTC One X as I'd love to experience blinkfeed and all the performance increases Sense 5.0 will bring so I was just wondering whether any devs were working on a rom based on it. So far I can see that there are Sense 5 roms for the HTC J Butterfly/Droid DNA and there are theme packs for the One X but I would really like blinkfeed and the updated Rosie launcher. I've heard HTC Is updating the One X, S, J and butterfly to Sense 5 officially but god knows how long they'd take.
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Are any devs working on Sense 5 for the HOX?
Regards,
No one as far as I know, and as you aware of, It would be meaningless to port Sense 5 when it's going to be officially released to our phone.
Yes, but I can't remember who LOL
Anyways it's more clever to just sit tight and wait for OTA.
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I think HTC are...
Similar query: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2214184
LOL just noticed link is to the same thread... meant this one
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I think HTC are...
Similar query: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2214184
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Yup, it's even more similar than you think.
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imancillitbang said:
Hey Guys!
I was just wondering whether any developers are working on porting Sense 5.0 to the HTC One X as I'd love to experience blinkfeed and all the performance increases Sense 5.0 will bring so I was just wondering whether any devs were working on a rom based on it. So far I can see that there are Sense 5 roms for the HTC J Butterfly/Droid DNA and there are theme packs for the One X but I would really like blinkfeed and the updated Rosie launcher. I've heard HTC Is updating the One X, S, J and butterfly to Sense 5 officially but god knows how long they'd take.
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Are any devs working on Sense 5 for the HOX?
Regards,
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Man, the porting is really difficult! A lot of resize image, a lot of commands edit, files text edits... Who want to port it have to have a lot of time whatvnow us dont have! Any ways i will start porting some apps in one week, but i dont think that i am going to try porting the prism.apk (rosie with blinkfeed), the best what we can do is wait to the release of Htc!
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Man, the porting is really difficult! A lot of resize image, a lot of commands edit, files text edits... Who want to port it have to have a lot of time whatvnow us dont have! Any ways i will start porting some apps in one week, but i dont think that i am going to try porting the prism.apk (rosie with blinkfeed), the best what we can do is wait to the release of Htc!
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Thanks for replying guys! I was just wondering as HTC hasn't given an ETA yet and I don't want to be waiting ages
Regards,
Football said in twitter that it should come out June-July
I think the Devs are waiting for a midrange device from HTC with HD resolution so they can port it without the pain in the ass resizing. It'd be easier that way.
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TToivanen said:
Football said in twitter that it should come out June-July
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Who's football?
imancillitbang said:
Who's football?
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He was the one who developed maximus Rom and he have reliable source of information in HTC
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drali500 said:
He was the one who developed maximus Rom and he have reliable source of information in HTC
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Could you give me the link to football's twitter so I can follow him?
https://twitter.com/LlabTooFeR
He's been using an anagram of his original name ever since HTC did some "inconvenient" things.
TToivanen said:
Football said in twitter that it should come out June-July
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YeH i too saw that tweet
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jarein95 said:
Man, the porting is really difficult! A lot of resize image, a lot of commands edit, files text edits... Who want to port it have to have a lot of time whatvnow us dont have! Any ways i will start porting some apps in one week, but i dont think that i am going to try porting the prism.apk (rosie with blinkfeed), the best what we can do is wait to the release of Htc!
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I think One x developers can work using the viperboy port base (EVO 4G LTE), is resized and the hard work is almost done, we just need a experience developer porting.
I wish we get the port before the official version is released!...i know its tough to port because our device being tegra!!!but still it would be really cool using it before the release!
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I wish we get the port before the official version is released!...i know its tough to port because our device being tegra!!!but still it would be really cool using it before the release!
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Be much better to wait for official sources to come out and build on it.
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Be much better to wait for official sources to come out and build on it.
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i know that!! I'm a newbie ....I dont get time coz i m a school student..still interested in knowing things...i just bought a new one x..i want to learn many things from the seniors...wish me luck!!i have visited many threads on creating roms!!i dont understand any!!would u please temme what r the basics?! Thanks in advance!!!
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droid.iddu said:
i know that!! I'm a newbie ....I dont get time coz i m a school student..still interested in knowing things...i just bought a new one x..i want to learn many things from the seniors...wish me luck!!i have visited many threads on creating roms!!i dont understand any!!would u please temme what r the basics?! Thanks in advance!!!
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I suggest you read the stickies and follow the unlocking and installing ROM guides, help is always here of you get stuck.
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i need a ported ubuntu touch ((
Buzz does not support Ubuntu, if there was a way we'd all try
But no. Sorry
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No way of getting Ubuntu port, I think we were Lucky enough to get Cyanogenmod9 let alone 10/.2
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No way of getting Ubuntu port, I think we were Lucky enough to get Cyanogenmod9 let alone 10/.2
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It's almost impossible :/
Stone. Cold said:
It's almost impossible :/
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Past Devs already confirmed it would be useless even trying for XYZ reasons. I don't see what benefits we could get from it.
Now what I would like to see for Wildfire is a working sense3 port.
But tbh I'm just happy to see people are still using the Phone and people such as you are still Deving & theming
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Will_Xda said:
Past Devs already confirmed it would be useless even trying for XYZ reasons. I don't see what benefits we could get from it.
Now what I would like to see for Wildfire is a working sense3 port.
But tbh I'm just happy to see people are still using the Phone and people such as you are still Deving & theming
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I'll try look into sense 3, i know people been waiting a while for the sense 3.5
So i'll try to make one, also we may need a new kernal for the sense 3.5, because the current is in ok condition, but not stabler enough :/
Going to see if i can fix all the issues myself :good:
hmmm, sense 3,5 won't work good. maybe try to play around sense 2.1 first (;
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hmmm, sense 3,5 won't work good. maybe try to play around sense 2.1 first (;
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It won't work good, because almost all the apks in the ROM are not ldpi and not compatible with the device, although i'm looking into this further more in development.
I'll try to compile sources from different devices with sense 3.5 which have some ldpi compatible features