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For exemple; Whould the Swype function disapear?
Whould my currently existing Guarrantee disapear? (In the thoughts that the phone goes broke)
Any risks according to the health of the phone?
I have no experience at all in this subject as you may see.
At last, why are you rooting, whats the most positive thing about rooting? (except that the phone is totally controlled by your own needs)
No, the swype function won't disappear if you root.
If you're talking about warranty, well, it depends. Some stores still acknowledge warranties even if a phone's rooted, and some don't.
Risks? Well there's bricking your phone in the process, but it's gonna be almost impossible if you just read, read, and read instructions/posts about rooting before doing so.
Rooting gives you all the access to your phone. After rooting, you can install apps that greatly improves your battery like juice defender and freeze bloatwares using titanium backup. You can also install custom roms that is better than the stock rom which can improve performance of your phone. (made by the most awesome devs here in xda)
If you're super bored with your phone and you feel that it needs a face lift, ROOT it! It's gonna be legen... wait for it... dary!
2 days ago i installed almost latest open rom and after new rom installed i made update by OTA. I also rooted my I8150 because its damn easy. The most problem for me is to get info about which one files i can delete or freeze by Titanium to not destroy the system. Maybe someone can help me ?
Hunteros said:
2 days ago i installed almost latest open rom and after new rom installed i made update by OTA. I also rooted my I8150 because its damn easy. The most problem for me is to get info about which one files i can delete or freeze by Titanium to not destroy the system. Maybe someone can help me ?
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Have a look at this..
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spr...1gdDJRekl4QmkyNmIzUmRvX2h3UDVkQXc&output=html
İ have questions about rooting too.
Will rooting with unlockroot.com will increase the flash
counter?
İ cannot ask it to the releated forum because i am new user.
Thanks for any help.
Regards,
Don't take my words for granted since I'm pretty new too,but afaik only flashing custom roms increase that counter. And there's a way to reset it
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Best bet is to take the insurance from your carrier if something happens claim and pay deductible. It can go from $50-$200 depending on your device, if you are under your 30 days warranty you can exchange or return it no questions asked... rooting will not harm your phone, is flashing new roms and specially new kernels you have to pay very close attention to what you do!
The only way you will trip Odin counter is when you flash the stock firmware using odin and download mode, the newest devices will not reset its counter even with a USB jig like the Samsung gs2 skyrocket.
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İ understand now.
Thanks for the reply's.
So basically I want to rom my phone with the AOPK Jellybean rom. But i'm worried if I lose my IMEI number. There anything I can do to make sure I wont lose my IMEI number?
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So basically I want to rom my phone with the AOPK Jellybean rom. But i'm worried if I lose my IMEI number. There anything I can do to make sure I wont lose my IMEI number?
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Buy a scratch & win lotto ticket. If you lose, go ahead and flash.
As of right now some simple steps would be being in the OTA update UCLG1 having a SV05 and having TWRP (team win recovery project) instead of CWM. The number of users experiencing this issue is very low. If your in the 30 day return period I advise doing some testing because its less of a hassle going to a store for an exchange instead of sending it away.
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Buy a scratch & win lotto ticket. If you lose, go ahead and flash.
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What are you trying to say? lol
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As of right now some simple steps would be being in the OTA update UCLG1 having a SV05 and having TWRP (team win recovery project) instead of CWM. The number of users experiencing this issue is very low. If your in the 30 day return period I advise doing some testing because its less of a hassle going to a store for an exchange instead of sending it away.
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So I should use team win recovery project instead of CWR, because it would lower my chances? I don't wanna take any chances I guess i'll be stock until we find a real solution. I don't feel like bricking my $600+ device.
Yes twrp and no flash root gtg
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What are you trying to say? lol
So I should use team win recovery project instead of CWR, because it would lower my chances? I don't wanna take any chances I guess i'll be stock until we find a real solution. I don't feel like bricking my $600+ device.
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Its a issue affecting a small amount of people there's a very high chance that you might not get it. I was scared to but I said screw it I'm going to find out if my phone has it, if it does ill just exchange it better now than later on when my return period is up.
No one with baseband version of UCLG1 has lost it neither with TWRP and UCLG1.
If you wanna try it download the OTA from your phone(using software update on device itself). Root using no trip method and instead pushing CWM use TWRP. Flash and see what happens.
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Yes twrp and no flash root gtg
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no flash root?
DudeWatsThat said:
Its a issue affecting a small amount of people there's a very high chance that you might not get it. I was scared to but I said screw it I'm going to find out if my phone has it, if it does ill just exchange it better now than later on when my return period is up.
No one with baseband version of UCLG1 has lost it neither with TWRP and UCLG1.
If you wanna try it download the OTA from your phone(using software update on device itself). Root using no trip method and instead pushing CWM use TWRP. Flash and see what happens.
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I actually did root my phone with the toolkit the day I got my phone. I got a OTA update yesterday but I choosed to ignore it because I was afraid to lose my root. I do have CWR already installed but I guess I might as well use TWRP.
No trip root lol and yes twrp I have been through all roms and stock and just fine
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No trip root lol and yes twrp I have been through all roms and stock and just fine
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i'm sorry what does no trip root mean from just normal root. im a noob i know.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426
Best root method
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And here is twrp method use goo app it's way easier imo
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1793224
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rayoubi said:
no flash root?
I actually did root my phone with the toolkit the day I got my phone. I got a OTA update yesterday but I choosed to ignore it because I was afraid to lose my root. I do have CWR already installed but I guess I might as well use TWRP.
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Use OTA root keeper it should keep it.
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tyshemi said:
And here is twrp method use goo app it's way easier imo
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1793224
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+1 Definitely the easiest way.
I was scared too man. I really was. This thing cost me an arm and a leg, its like the nicest thing I own and I never want to put it in dangers way. Plus if I had to pay out of pocket, I wouldn't be able to replace it for 2 months, and it would eat up all my pleasure money.
But you know what, I hate touchwiz. I hate the menus, I hate its goofy sounds and stuff. The stock keyboard is ridiculous.The battery life was really good though. I know I could of changed the launcher and some other stuff but I am really into running my devices lean and mean. This is just a thing, a mentality I guess.
I decided that at best I can provide some information to the community and possibly work with other people and get this figured out. Everyone being scared is going to ruin the test pool because we don't get the scope of info we need to really get analytical about it. At worst, well I have documented everything I've done so far and can reproduce any partition pre-flashing needed. If we all end up with phones with imeis missing in the first 30 days, and all take them back to att because "I don't know I just don't get 4g anymore", we can possibly force att and Samsung to look more in-depth And possibly give a fix.
If anything early is the time to flash if you are looking to get your hands dirty, and be fine with learning some things along the way. I spent a good 2 weeks just learning everything I could about the issue, my phone, just got real intimate with the thing XD. Once I felt comfortable that I have done everything in my power to prepare for the worse, I rooted with the "no trip" method and then installed busy box, and then goomanager from the play store. From there just go to options and then hit open recovery and it automatically detects your device and installs.
Just remember, this is a brand new device running brand new software. All of this is experimental and the fact any of it works, let alone as well as it does is amazing. I'm running aokp rc2 right now and its pretty impressive. There's some weird haptic bugs and I'm noticing that my signal strength is not even close to what it was stock. This is disappointing and o don't understand why this is. As far as I understand I'm still on the same modem? All I've done is flashed aokp and cm10 ROMs. I'm getting about 107db right now and it keeps switching from HSDPA to HSDPA +. So when I load a page, it will be slow till the HSDPA + kicks in, then it will go back down to HSDPA and loose signal strength, almost like it "cranks up" when data is being used? Anyways yea its fun and I totally understand why you want to, but bit expect it to be like 1000x better right now. But if you are down contribute either info, donate to devs, try things, send files/screenshots then come join the fun!
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rakhov said:
I was scared too man. I really was. This thing cost me an arm and a leg, its like the nicest thing I own and I never want to put it in dangers way. Plus if I had to pay out of pocket, I wouldn't be able to replace it for 2 months, and it would eat up all my pleasure money.
But you know what, I hate touchwiz. I hate the menus, I hate its goofy sounds and stuff. The stock keyboard is ridiculous.The battery life was really good though. I know I could of changed the launcher and some other stuff but I am really into running my devices lean and mean. This is just a thing, a mentality I guess.
I decided that at best I can provide some information to the community and possibly work with other people and get this figured out. Everyone being scared is going to ruin the test pool because we don't get the scope of info we need to really get analytical about it. At worst, well I have documented everything I've done so far and can reproduce any partition pre-flashing needed. If we all end up with phones with imeis missing in the first 30 days, and all take them back to att because "I don't know I just don't get 4g anymore", we can possibly force att and Samsung to look more in-depth And possibly give a fix.
If anything early is the time to flash if you are looking to get your hands dirty, and be fine with learning some things along the way. I spent a good 2 weeks just learning everything I could about the issue, my phone, just got real intimate with the thing XD. Once I felt comfortable that I have done everything in my power to prepare for the worse, I rooted with the "no trip" method and then installed busy box, and then goomanager from the play store. From there just go to options and then hit open recovery and it automatically detects your device and installs.
Just remember, this is a brand new device running brand new software. All of this is experimental and the fact any of it works, let alone as well as it does is amazing. I'm running aokp rc2 right now and its pretty impressive. There's some weird haptic bugs and I'm noticing that my signal strength is not even close to what it was stock. This is disappointing and o don't understand why this is. As far as I understand I'm still on the same modem? All I've done is flashed aokp and cm10 ROMs. I'm getting about 107db right now and it keeps switching from HSDPA to HSDPA +. So when I load a page, it will be slow till the HSDPA + kicks in, then it will go back down to HSDPA and loose signal strength, almost like it "cranks up" when data is being used? Anyways yea its fun and I totally understand why you want to, but bit expect it to be like 1000x better right now. But if you are down contribute either info, donate to devs, try things, send files/screenshots then come join the fun!
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I'm holding out on AOKP until it comes out of preview builds, don't like being a guinea pig.
My experience:
Used the root without tripping flashcounter method.
Used adb to install CWM (the touch version for AT&T, not the teamepic one)
Have flashed custom ROMs, Kernels, and mods.
Absolutely no problems.
Just make sure to download the .zip files that are specific to your device, make nandroids, and have fun!
kswa1987 said:
My experience:
Used the root without tripping flashcounter method.
Used adb to install CWM (the touch version for AT&T, not the teamepic one)
Have flashed custom ROMs, Kernels, and mods.
Absolutely no problems.
Just make sure to download the .zip files that are specific to your device, make nandroids, and have fun!
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And avoid anything marked 'preview' or 'nightly'. (IMHO)
rayoubi said:
So basically I want to rom my phone with the AOPK Jellybean rom. But i'm worried if I lose my IMEI number. There anything I can do to make sure I wont lose my IMEI number?
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I followed this method-- http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-s3-sgh-i747-att-root-99789/
Using Odin to install ClockWorkMod and then flashed the updated version of ClockWorkMod via Rom Manager & installed CM10... No issues. I've use this method 4 times now on two different S3's with no issues & IMEI still intact.
DudeWatsThat said:
Its a issue affecting a small amount of people there's a very high chance that you might not get it. I was scared to but I said screw it I'm going to find out if my phone has it, if it does ill just exchange it better now than later on when my return period is up.
No one with baseband version of UCLG1 has lost it neither with TWRP and UCLG1.
If you wanna try it download the OTA from your phone(using software update on device itself). Root using no trip method and instead pushing CWM use TWRP. Flash and see what happens.
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I'm a Telus user up here in the great white north (canada) and my baseband is LE8 and the kernel date back to may20th.. I made a topic earlier in the international thread about a hiss/static noise problem and a helper told me to flash a new rom as my current baseband is old and he had problems with this baseband/firmware.
I'm so confused, ROMS are just different type of "OS" right? I mean if I want to officially update my firmware I gotta go through the Samsung procedure? (If I update while rooted, I'll lose root right?).
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I'm a Telus user up here in the great white north (canada) and my baseband is LE8 and the kernel date back to may20th.. I made a topic earlier in the international thread about a hiss/static noise problem and a helper told me to flash a new rom as my current baseband is old and he had problems with this baseband/firmware.
I'm so confused, ROMS are just different type of "OS" right? I mean if I want to officially update my firmware I gotta go through the Samsung procedure? (If I update while rooted, I'll lose root right?).
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I rooted LE8 with the snap dragon method then flashed cm9.. then flashed cm10 then nandroided back to cm9 then flashed LG1 from androiduser.. and my imei is still intact.. I think losing the imei is totally random in my opinion
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Intercrew said:
I'm a Telus user up here in the great white north (canada) and my baseband is LE8 and the kernel date back to may20th.. I made a topic earlier in the international thread about a hiss/static noise problem and a helper told me to flash a new rom as my current baseband is old and he had problems with this baseband/firmware.
I'm so confused, ROMS are just different type of "OS" right? I mean if I want to officially update my firmware I gotta go through the Samsung procedure? (If I update while rooted, I'll lose root right?).
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Roms can update your firmware it all depends on what stock version their based on.
Most of the time you will find a root injected rom lets say its le9 with this you would just have to flash it through cwm/twrp. Instant firmware update without loosing root.
Then flash any rom based on it.
Plus theres a niffty app called OTA root keeper. Get OTA without loosing root.
Anyone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on something.
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Hey guys, sorry for posting this, but im desperate and have read until my eyes are falling out of my skull. I am willing to work with any dev if they need specific work/software ran/info to make this happen. Is there, or is there not clear concise directions on rooting SGH-T889v (wind mobile variant of note 2)?
remember we use AWS for our signal, the modem stuff is all different. this is were my expertise kinda falls short. BUT I AM WILLING TO HELP TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. As far as iv'e seen there are no current methods of rooting this phone which is a damn shame considering its horsepower. i saw the all in one toolkit for note 2's, and i simply cannot afford to donate to unlock the functionality of the update that supports wind. So only ONE guy knows how? I believe dev's should get paid and should accept donations, they are the real workers and smart guys. I don't work for free either, However this kinda defeats the purpose of the ecosystem we fought so hard to have.... open and accessible platforms were we the users are in control. By with holding the method, its no longer donating, it's close sourcing ala apple,microsoft, etc. Zero offence to that guy, id just really love to "own" MY phone. Can someone PLEASE help? pass the word? anything? a peep?
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Hey guys, sorry for posting this, but im desperate and have read until my eyes are falling out of my skull. I am willing to work with any dev if they need specific work/software ran/info to make this happen. Is there, or is there not clear concise directions on rooting SGH-T889v (wind mobile variant of note 2)?
remember we use AWS for our signal, the modem stuff is all different. this is were my expertise kinda falls short. BUT I AM WILLING TO HELP TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. As far as iv'e seen there are no current methods of rooting this phone which is a damn shame considering its horsepower. i saw the all in one toolkit for note 2's, and i simply cannot afford to donate to unlock the functionality of the update that supports wind. So only ONE guy knows how? I believe dev's should get paid and should accept donations, they are the real workers and smart guys. I don't work for free either, However this kinda defeats the purpose of the ecosystem we fought so hard to have.... open and accessible platforms were we the users are in control. By with holding the method, its no longer donating, it's close sourcing ala apple,microsoft, etc. Zero offence to that guy, id just really love to "own" MY phone. Can someone PLEASE help? pass the word? anything? a peep?
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Who says there is no way....use donated version of toolkit ...its in there
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If you don't mind the flash counter, you could simply use an Odin flashable (N7100) CWM tar, push the superuser zip of your choosing to /data/media/ (linked to /sdcard/) and install that from CWM.
What I know is that the rooting part is all fine and dandy, sure its a little harder than the rest, but its okay, it not too hard. The problem I keep reading is that the ROMS aren't truly compatible with the device, as data become atrociously slow. A method one, respected fellow, recommended we take was to flash a modem that is "for" our device variant. I say that because people reported bootloops due to it. Also there's a greater chance for our device to lose its IMEI number...not sure if these problems have been resolved. But yeah your problem really isn't rooting its the whole deal afterwards, again I am going by what I've read, I myself do not wish to take the chance of it becoming unusable, so i stay far until I got time to research more and some brilliant helpful mind comes along and solves all problems.
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MCRHAZ said:
What I know is that the rooting part is all fine and dandy, sure its a little harder than the rest, but its okay, it not too hard. The problem I keep reading is that the ROMS aren't truly compatible with the device, as data become atrociously slow. A method one, respected fellow, recommended we take was to flash a modem that is "for" our device variant. I say that because people reported bootloops due to it. Also there's a greater chance for our device to lose its IMEI number...not sure if these problems have been resolved. But yeah your problem really isn't rooting its the whole deal afterwards, again I am going by what I've read, I myself do not wish to take the chance of it becoming unusable, so i stay far until I got time to research more and some brilliant helpful mind comes along and solves all problems.
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i think thats the issue, we just generally need someone more brilliant xD as per the "gentleman" that again, suggested using the donating kit, please re-read my post. whats this business about a flash counter????
darn shame still nothing regretting purchasing this phone completely due to this :/
I used the toolkit to root my N2 (Videotron T889v) without any problems. Just used the T-Mobile option since they are the same phone, just different software. The only difference is the modem from what I've read. Rooting does not change the modem that you currently have right now. If you decide you want to install a custom rom, then you may have to flash your modem back. I am currently using Jedi X rom without any problems and I can honestly say that it's faster than stock. He also provides a link with our modem so we can flash it after the install. All the T-Mobile software has been taken out, so you won't have to deal with any of it. Here are the links for the toolkit and rom.
Toolkit - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957720
Jedi X rom - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987634
There are 2 Jedi Roms available. Jedi X has the multi-window function working but no wifi calling. I believe the other is called Jedi Master and that one has wifi calling but no multi-window. I'm not sure if the wifi calling is a T-Mobile thing but I never installed that rom and can't really give much more info on it. In the end, you can always go back to stock if you're not satisfied. You can find a copy of your stock rom at sammobile. I would suggest making sure it's still available before doing anything.
As for the OP, this is my first time dealing with a flash counter although not my first time rooting. The flash counter is some type of software that Samsung puts in their phones to be able to tell if you have "tampered" with the phone's software. From what I've noticed, when you put your phone in the "download" state and install anything, that triggers the counter to rise. If you send your phone to Samsung for service and the counter is not 0, they will deny service since you would have broken your warranty. There is a program called Triangle Away that will return your counter back to 0, should you need to return the phone to Samsung. Although in my case it would only take it back down to 1 using their instructions. I finally got it back to 0 by adding an extra step. From what I've read, I think it depends on the kernel that you're using. Here is the link for the program.
Triangle Away - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494114
I'm not an expert on any of this, just trying to help. I can say that I've rooted, unrooted and reset my flash counter back to 0 along with my stock Videotron rom.
Good luck
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I used the toolkit to root my N2 (Videotron T889v) without any problems. Just used the T-Mobile option since they are the same phone, just different software. The only difference is the modem from what I've read. Rooting does not change the modem that you currently have right now. If you decide you want to install a custom rom, then you may have to flash your modem back. I am currently using Jedi X rom without any problems and I can honestly say that it's faster than stock. He also provides a link with our modem so we can flash it after the install. All the T-Mobile software has been taken out, so you won't have to deal with any of it. Here are the links for the toolkit and rom.
Toolkit - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957720
Jedi X rom - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987634
There are 2 Jedi Roms available. Jedi X has the multi-window function working but no wifi calling. I believe the other is called Jedi Master and that one has wifi calling but no multi-window. I'm not sure if the wifi calling is a T-Mobile thing but I never installed that rom and can't really give much more info on it. In the end, you can always go back to stock if you're not satisfied. You can find a copy of your stock rom at sammobile. I would suggest making sure it's still available before doing anything.
As for the OP, this is my first time dealing with a flash counter although not my first time rooting. The flash counter is some type of software that Samsung puts in their phones to be able to tell if you have "tampered" with the phone's software. From what I've noticed, when you put your phone in the "download" state and install anything, that triggers the counter to rise. If you send your phone to Samsung for service and the counter is not 0, they will deny service since you would have broken your warranty. There is a program called Triangle Away that will return your counter back to 0, should you need to return the phone to Samsung. Although in my case it would only take it back down to 1 using their instructions. I finally got it back to 0 by adding an extra step. From what I've read, I think it depends on the kernel that you're using. Here is the link for the program.
Triangle Away - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494114
I'm not an expert on any of this, just trying to help. I can say that I've rooted, unrooted and reset my flash counter back to 0 along with my stock Videotron rom.
Good luck
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so you flashed the modem that ptmr3 provided for the t889v along with his jedi x rom and all good is good? no signal issues ? you get hspa+?
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I'm on Wind Mobile T889v Note 2. And I cant wait for this phone to get rooted so that I can run debian or whatever have you full blow linux desktop experience on my phone.
The current limited version of android on its own is too limiting for the processing beast that this phone is.
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so you flashed the modem that ptmr3 provided for the t889v along with his jedi x rom and all good is good? no signal issues ? you get hspa+?
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That is correct. Never had any issues whatsoever. Always get full signal strength, no disconnections and overall great service. As long as you flash after the rom, you will get your modem back. To be honest, the rom itself has never changed my modem, I always just flash it in case it's just reporting it as an error. In the directions it states that it will change it but I always check it and it has remained the same every time.
you mean by letting bootup and set up first then go back to twrp or cwm? and then flash the modem...my exams are done hoping to do it by tomorrow.
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you mean by letting bootup and set up first then go back to twrp or cwm? and then flash the modem...my exams are done hoping to do it by tomorrow.
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After you flash the rom (if you're flashing Jedi) you need to let it sit for 10 minutes on the first boot up (after the android logo, just use the reboot option after the 10 minutes). Once you've booted up and finished your setup, just go back into cwm or twrp and flash the modem.
how did you reset the flash counter with triangle away? it doesnt seem to work on my 889V
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Ok so here goes a long but detailed read. I am writing this in hopes other fido users searching may find this thread and avoid future questions. Phone came with the TW 4.1.1 from fido and is fully stock.
Brand new S3 Galaxy from Fido (same as rogers) i747M Phone is great but the rooting bug has caught me.
1. I plan to root the device fairly shortly and install a non touchwiz variant. I will be following "High on Android's" Technique. detailed in this youtube video.
Is that method correct for my phone?
or should I be following something different? I just noticed Mr. Robinson posted the Fido TAR with root injected already on it. Does this make any difference? Links to TAR file are here
2. Now assuming I get everything up and running. What is the deal with "Triangleaway" and flash counters? From my understanding, Samsung has a counter installed that ensures they keep an eye on voided warranties due to flashing. Sure thats fine but lets talk about what we can do.
From what I gather, Triangle away will sort me out and get rid of the counters and put them back to zero in case I need to send my phone in for warranty. Is this correct?
Most of the triangle away info I read is for pre 4.1.1 confirmations hence why I ask.
3. Now lets assume I have flashed thephone and I am running CM 10 beautiful. Oh no power button breaks. What will be the required steps to get my phone back to 'stock" to send to Samsung. Will this even be possible to send it in without a worry? I cant seem to find steps online for this.
4. A lot of guides talk about the importance of backing up. Sure sounds great but they dont seem to give detailed instructions. What are the most important things I should backup before, during and after rooting my phone in case I brick it or anything goes wrong? Again any link or detailed explanations would be great.
Sorry for being so exhaustive in my questions. I like to learn it all so I can help other afterwards but also structured the thread so its easy to search for future users.
Happy new year everyone!
sspikey said:
1. I plan to root the device fairly shortly and install a non touchwiz variant. I will be following "High on Android's" Technique. detailed in this youtube video.
Is that method correct for my phone?
or should I be following something different? I just noticed Mr. Robinson posted the Fido TAR with root injected already on it. Does this make any difference? Links to TAR file are here
2. Now assuming I get everything up and running. What is the deal with "Triangleaway" and flash counters? From my understanding, Samsung has a counter installed that ensures they keep an eye on voided warranties due to flashing. Sure thats fine but lets talk about what we can do.
From what I gather, Triangle away will sort me out and get rid of the counters and put them back to zero in case I need to send my phone in for warranty. Is this correct?
Most of the triangle away info I read is for pre 4.1.1 confirmations hence why I ask.
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I'm going to answer these two questions together, because they're interrelated.
There's no one single root method that's more "correct" than any of the others. The key difference between the end result of most of the methods is whether the flash counter has been tripped, which occurs (under circumstances where you're coming from ICS) if you use Odin to flash something other than a stock image (untouched or rooted as in Mr_Robinson's case). You can also trip the flash counter if you have the Jelly Bean boot loader and boot into a non-stock recovery image.
Thus, if you want to avoid tripping the counter for as long as possible, you want to use a method for rooting that doesn't trip the counter, such as the Mr_Robinson method.
If you're going to flash a custom recovery after working from stock JB, you'll probably end up tripping the flash counter the moment you boot into it, in which case (assuming your phone is still rooted) you could use Triangle Away to reset said flash counter.
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3. Now lets assume I have flashed thephone and I am running CM 10 beautiful. Oh no power button breaks. What will be the required steps to get my phone back to 'stock" to send to Samsung. Will this even be possible to send it in without a worry? I cant seem to find steps online for this.
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I'd do the following:
Triangle Away, if the flash counter isn't 0;
Boot into download mode;
Flash a normal stock image from here; [*]Boot into stock recovery and wipe data/cache; [*]Boot phone as normal.
sspikey said:
4. A lot of guides talk about the importance of backing up. Sure sounds great but they dont seem to give detailed instructions. What are the most important things I should backup before, during and after rooting my phone in case I brick it or anything goes wrong? Again any link or detailed explanations would be great.
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There are two major approaches you can take here, and using both of them responsibly is probably a good idea.
Titanium Backup, usable if your device is rooted, can back up all of your application data and some system settings; it's great for transferring data between ROMs and/or between devices altogether (I've done both). Most people I know of only use it for the former, as trying to restore system data with TiBu usually causes bizarre and unpredictable effects (with a few exceptions, such as text message data).
With a custom recovery, you can make what's called a "nandroid" backup, which is a complete image of your current ROM and userland data; it's most useful when you want to make a restore point of sorts for if you're, say, flashing experimental ROM images or other things you don't expect to work very well.
Hope this is of help.
smelenchuk said:
I'm going to answer these two questions together, because they're interrelated.
There's no one single root method that's more "correct" than any of the others. The key difference between the end result of most of the methods is whether the flash counter has been tripped, which occurs (under circumstances where you're coming from ICS) if you use Odin to flash something other than a stock image (untouched or rooted as in Mr_Robinson's case). You can also trip the flash counter if you have the Jelly Bean boot loader and boot into a non-stock recovery image.
Thus, if you want to avoid tripping the counter for as long as possible, you want to use a method for rooting that doesn't trip the counter, such as the Mr_Robinson method.
If you're going to flash a custom recovery after working from stock JB, you'll probably end up tripping the flash counter the moment you boot into it, in which case (assuming your phone is still rooted) you could use Triangle Away to reset said flash counter.
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It seems the flash counter is a lot less worrysome to me now that you indicated I can always go back to a stock rom and return it for warranty regardless if it has a counter or not. Now I wonder why people even worry about tripping it.
I'd do the following:
Triangle Away, if the flash counter isn't 0;
Boot into download mode;
Flash a normal stock image from here; [*]Boot into stock recovery and wipe data/cache; [*]Boot phone as normal.
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So Sounds to me like I should not worry about flashing and warranty correct? There will always be a method to go back to my phone in order to deal with warranty if something physical goes wrong? Any guide you could point me towards for this? I found this http://galaxys3root.com/galaxy-s3-unroot/how-to-unroot-canadian-galaxy-s3-sgh-i747m-stock-roms/
but it doesnt mention any fido files (understandable since its new)
There are two major approaches you can take here, and using both of them responsibly is probably a good idea.
Titanium Backup, usable if your device is rooted, can back up all of your application data and some system settings; it's great for transferring data between ROMs and/or between devices altogether (I've done both). Most people I know of only use it for the former, as trying to restore system data with TiBu usually causes bizarre and unpredictable effects (with a few exceptions, such as text message data).
With a custom recovery, you can make what's called a "nandroid" backup, which is a complete image of your current ROM and userland data; it's most useful when you want to make a restore point of sorts for if you're, say, flashing experimental ROM images or other things you don't expect to work very well.
Hope this is of help.
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These two forms of backup I am use to and have used extensively on my nexus S. What I am worried about is more deep "system" type backups people do. is there any for this phone I should do through odin or Kies?
Edit: almost forgot to say thank you!
How come the root66_FMC_I747MVLDLK4.7z download link keep saying searching for mirror, please wait? Waited for 1 hr, no links. Refresh, no links.
thats odd I tried it yesterday and it worked
send a PM to the thread starter he will put up a new mirror I guess
I've been rooting since OG Evo days, but only played with that, the s2, and s3. Rooting was easy as pie. But with all this knox stuff I'm wary.
I recently read reports of people sending in their phones to both Samsung and tmobile and getting it back with knox restored but still maintaining sim unlocks. So obviously it's a well kept firmware they flash or perhaps signatures.
This in mind I used kingoapp, and root was easy. Just decline the recovery install and you'll maintain 0x0. But after this new information I'm still worried to trip knox for fear those restores we're just a fluke.
Anybody have luck with safestrap? I heard/read it doesn't replace recovery so it also won't trip knox? Also, as long as I don't flash kernels or recovery I'll be good right? Like i can delete bloat or install at root level to /system and I'll be fine?
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I've been rooting since OG Evo days, but only played with that, the s2, and s3. Rooting was easy as pie. But with all this knox stuff I'm wary.
I recently read reports of people sending in their phones to both Samsung and tmobile and getting it back with knox restored but still maintaining sim unlocks. So obviously it's a well kept firmware they flash or perhaps signatures.
This in mind I used kingoapp, and root was easy. Just decline the recovery install and you'll maintain 0x0. But after this new information I'm still worried to trip knox for fear those restores we're just a fluke.
Anybody have luck with safestrap? Also, as long as I don't flash kernels or recovery I'll be good right? Like i can delete bloat or install at root level to /system and I'll be fine?
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As long as you just root it nothing happens system will be fine .... Plssss hit thanksss.....
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pvinayraju2k4 said:
As long as you just root it nothing happens system will be fine .... Plssss hit thanksss.....
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Thanks for the info. However in the future there's no need to request we thank. I've learned most people here on xda thank quite often, myself included.
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Naturesretard said:
Thanks for the info. However in the future there's no need to request we thank. I've learned most people here on xda thank quite often, myself included.
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First off, the above poster is wrong... can't believe he asks for a thank. When you install a custom recovery, that is when you trip Knox. There a method to install a custom ROM w/o a recovery using Mobile Odin Pro. I know nothing about that but have read here that it works. You just can't flash custom kernel. I went ahead and flash a custom recovery because I don't care about Knox and will never send this phone to Samsung for warranty repair.
asianflavor said:
First off, the above poster is wrong... can't believe he asks for a thank. When you install a custom recovery, that is when you trip Knox. There a method to install a custom ROM w/o a recovery using Mobile Odin Pro. I know nothing about that but have read here that it works. You just can't flash custom kernel. I went ahead and flash a custom recovery because I don't care about Knox and will never send this phone to Samsung for warranty repair.
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Just the fact most of us have insurance plans; if we discover a problem such as faulty gps or screen displacement, etc, tmobile fixes it for us anyway, right?
So it really doesn't matter if we trip knox, correct???
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Naturesretard said:
Just the fact most of us have insurance plans; if we discover a problem such as faulty gps or screen displacement, etc, tmobile fixes it for us anyway, right?
So it really doesn't matter if we trip knox, correct???
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From everything I read, yes.
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asianflavor said:
First off, the above poster is wrong...
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He's not wrong. There are a couple different methods of rooting that don't require a custom recovery, therefore don't trip Knox.
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From everything I read, yes.
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I guess I shouldn't bother with safestrap then. Was planning on trying to pay off the note 3 and keep it anyway instead of jumping again this year.
Either way it won't matter...until I do eventually get a new handset but even then I know enough about rooting I shouldn't need to repair this one once paid off and detached from my account.
my next question is then should I TWRP or cwm? I tried CWM for the first time since gingerbread on my s3 and fell in love with it
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Hey Nature! just wanted to add my 0.02, ok theres a difference between rooting, and a difference between flashing recoveries,kernels,roms,and what have you.
ill give a brief explanation in the differences. The Colors of the titles indicate how safe/dangerous it is to modify one of these things and wether it will void your warranty, Green=Wont void your warranty, and easily reversible. Orange=Void Warranty, Reversible, But starting to get Dangerous, Red=Definitely VVoids Warranty, and if screwed up, could ruin/brick your devvice Definitely Voids Warranty, and if screwed up, could ruin/brick your devvice
Rooting: When you are rooting your device, you are basically forcing your stock version of android to allow you (the user) root access, therefore allowing you to bypass/allow signature verification for apps, now this could be anything from homebrew apps that you are making yourself...to the naughty pirated apps, and i dont encourage the latter. By giving yourself root access to your phone, your allowing the next to happen:
Flashing a Custom Recovery: Ok ill explain this as simple as i can...Mostly all if not ALL android phones have a stock recovery, this is a safeguard in case some kind of software fault happened in the phone(stock software fault or what have you). Flashing a custom recovery would be your next step after Rooting a device (IF) you want to go further than apps, meaning Kernels, Roms etc. Now the reason you must Root your device in order to install a custom recovery, is because like explained above signature verification....Now this is when you begin to tread in warranty territory, once flashing a custom recovery...your warranty has become VOID, however what the custom recovery allows you to do is a multitude of things, but the most major is Flashing .ZIP files, which most roms are in the form of, now not only Roms are in ZIP files, so are kernels,mods,baseband firmwares, etc, with that being said, different phones/devices use different methods of flashing roms, lets say for example you somehow screwed something up on a samsung really bad, and it wont boot, however, you can still get into download mode...then you're safe, because samsung uses Odin to flash the entire phone back to stock meaning Recovery/aBoot/Data/System and bring you right back, but if you hard brick it, theres only 3 ways out from that...and they all suck....number one, is call me and send it to me to Jtag it for you ..but it takes long and its not that cheap, #2, Desolder the chip (whichever it is on the device that has caused the problem) and replace it...and thats not an easy task at all, ive done it once to an S3 successfully, after that i never wanted to do it again, and this was back when they were really expensive, and lastly....#3.....and this one is the worse....go buy a new one SO BE CAREFUL!
ROMS: So now that we have a custom recovery, a rom is basically a heavily modified version of Android! and let me tell ya, i love them...i love so many of them, there are sooo many different things that you can do with roms, but the most desired from what ive gathered, is so people can remove the bloatware that comes with their phone when they buy it from the carrier/manufacturer. Thats not all tho, there is way too much to get into, but some roms allow you to Overclock your phones CPU/GPU, and change the Behaviors of the phones hardware, and the major component in roms that allows that is the Kernel.
Kernel: Now dont totally quote me here, im still learning kernels, but a kernel is basically the binary software in the phone, almost like a bios that when modified from stock, changes the behavior of the MOST of the hardware, not all. Now i could be wrong and anyone please feel free to correct me, now i do want to give you a shot of my own advice here...if you dont know what you are doing, kernels are dangerous to a noobie..before i started messing with roms and kernels, i tried to get the best understanding i could, and ill be honest with you, i blew up a couple S3's doing so. but im still learning. so if you're unweary or still not educated enough in the hobby to get too it, please read more up on it, because as none of these guys here that are devs nor people like myself that are trying to help intend to destroy your device on you, so please be careful for your own device's safety, and to save yourself money and a broken heart.
Knox: Ok now correct me if im wrong here, because im still learning as this is new to me, i only saw it on the MJA bootloader on the S4 on Jellybean from Sprint when they first OTA'd it, but knox looks to be Samsungs pathetic try of not lettings us Access the devices binary software, like an encryption, or to only let us access and modify certain things, also samsung has added a flash counter, which will tell them how many times you have flashed a new rom, however there are ways around these things, google and the search bar are you best friends to start, and we can help too.
I Hope this helped and shed some light on some information, and please if anyone has anything to add or to correct me if im wrong anywhere please do so ^_^
P.S. To be totally honest, theres always a way to restore your device and even get the flash counter back to 0 again and put everything back to normal, if an experienced tech looks at it and puts it in download mode unless all is restored, hell be able to see everything, but honestly, if you pay off the phone, you havve nothing to worry about, but then again, i dont care much for warranties, so it all depends on how savvy with fixing problems when they go wrong, but if you ever need i can help you, im pretty experienced when it comes to everything but developing atm, i was a microelectronics major in college, so my expertise is mainly in hardware i.e. if you hard/soft brick the devvice i can usually get it out of that.
please excuse my typing, i type extremely fast, and i have a mechanical keyboard and i think some lettings are startings to give way such as the V key.
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Naturesretard said:
I guess I shouldn't bother with safestrap then. Was planning on trying to pay off the note 3 and keep it anyway instead of jumping again this year.
Either way it won't matter...until I do eventually get a new handset but even then I know enough about rooting I shouldn't need to repair this one once paid off and detached from my account.
my next question is then should I TWRP or cwm? I tried CWM for the first time since gingerbread on my s3 and fell in love with it
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Oh and please i Highly suggest using Philz Touch!
Code:
http://goo.im/devs/philz_touch/CWM_Advanced_Edition/hltetmo
Thats for the HLTETMO version, which is our versions in this forum, all credit to phil ofcourse, it is basically CWM, but so much more user friendly and advanced with much more options, there are two files there, you obviously want the latest version, and there are two ways to do it, if you download the tar.md5 you must use Odin, and put your phone in download/odin mode, very easily done (turn it off unplug usb and press Home+Vol Dwn+Pwr) then once the screen pops up press Vol Up and then plug the USB in, and follow the instructions of w/e tutorial you are ready, but be very careful in odin mode, if you disturb the phone while its flashing you will most likely brick it, and the .zip is considering you already have a custom recovery and you can just flash it through there.
MasterSe7en said:
Hey Nature! just wanted to add my 0.02, ok theres a difference between rooting, and a difference between flashing recoveries,kernels,roms,and what have you.
ill give a brief explanation in the differences. The Colors of the titles indicate how safe/dangerous it is to modify one of these things and wether it will void your warranty, Green=Wont void your warranty, and easily reversible. Orange=Void Warranty, Reversible, But starting to get Dangerous, Red=Definitely VVoids Warranty, and if screwed up, could ruin/brick your devvice Definitely Voids Warranty, and if screwed up, could ruin/brick your devvice
Rooting: When you are rooting your device, you are basically forcing your stock version of android to allow you (the user) root access, therefore allowing you to bypass/allow signature verification for apps, now this could be anything from homebrew apps that you are making yourself...to the naughty pirated apps, and i dont encourage the latter. By giving yourself root access to your phone, your allowing the next to happen:
Flashing a Custom Recovery: Ok ill explain this as simple as i can...Mostly all if not ALL android phones have a stock recovery, this is a safeguard in case some kind of software fault happened in the phone(stock software fault or what have you). Flashing a custom recovery would be your next step after Rooting a device (IF) you want to go further than apps, meaning Kernels, Roms etc. Now the reason you must Root your device in order to install a custom recovery, is because like explained above signature verification....Now this is when you begin to tread in warranty territory, once flashing a custom recovery...your warranty has become VOID, however what the custom recovery allows you to do is a multitude of things, but the most major is Flashing .ZIP files, which most roms are in the form of, now not only Roms are in ZIP files, so are kernels,mods,baseband firmwares, etc, with that being said, different phones/devices use different methods of flashing roms, lets say for example you somehow screwed something up on a samsung really bad, and it wont boot, however, you can still get into download mode...then you're safe, because samsung uses Odin to flash the entire phone back to stock meaning Recovery/aBoot/Data/System and bring you right back, but if you hard brick it, theres only 3 ways out from that...and they all suck....number one, is call me and send it to me to Jtag it for you ..but it takes long and its not that cheap, #2, Desolder the chip (whichever it is on the device that has caused the problem) and replace it...and thats not an easy task at all, ive done it once to an S3 successfully, after that i never wanted to do it again, and this was back when they were really expensive, and lastly....#3.....and this one is the worse....go buy a new one SO BE CAREFUL!
ROMS: So now that we have a custom recovery, a rom is basically a heavily modified version of Android! and let me tell ya, i love them...i love so many of them, there are sooo many different things that you can do with roms, but the most desired from what ive gathered, is so people can remove the bloatware that comes with their phone when they buy it from the carrier/manufacturer. Thats not all tho, there is way too much to get into, but some roms allow you to Overclock your phones CPU/GPU, and change the Behaviors of the phones hardware, and the major component in roms that allows that is the Kernel.
Kernel: Now dont totally quote me here, im still learning kernels, but a kernel is basically the binary software in the phone, almost like a bios that when modified from stock, changes the behavior of the MOST of the hardware, not all. Now i could be wrong and anyone please feel free to correct me, now i do want to give you a shot of my own advice here...if you dont know what you are doing, kernels are dangerous to a noobie..before i started messing with roms and kernels, i tried to get the best understanding i could, and ill be honest with you, i blew up a couple S3's doing so. but im still learning. so if you're unweary or still not educated enough in the hobby to get too it, please read more up on it, because as none of these guys here that are devs nor people like myself that are trying to help intend to destroy your device on you, so please be careful for your own device's safety, and to save yourself money and a broken heart.
Knox: Ok now correct me if im wrong here, because im still learning as this is new to me, i only saw it on the MJA bootloader on the S4 on Jellybean from Sprint when they first OTA'd it, but knox looks to be Samsungs pathetic try of not lettings us Access the devices binary software, like an encryption, or to only let us access and modify certain things, also samsung has added a flash counter, which will tell them how many times you have flashed a new rom, however there are ways around these things, google and the search bar are you best friends to start, and we can help too.
I Hope this helped and shed some light on some information, and please if anyone has anything to add or to correct me if im wrong anywhere please do so ^_^
P.S. To be totally honest, theres always a way to restore your device and even get the flash counter back to 0 again and put everything back to normal, if an experienced tech looks at it and puts it in download mode unless all is restored, hell be able to see everything, but honestly, if you pay off the phone, you havve nothing to worry about, but then again, i dont care much for warranties, so it all depends on how savvy with fixing problems when they go wrong, but if you ever need i can help you, im pretty experienced when it comes to everything but developing atm, i was a microelectronics major in college, so my expertise is mainly in hardware i.e. if you hard/soft brick the devvice i can usually get it out of that.
please excuse my typing, i type extremely fast, and i have a mechanical keyboard and i think some lettings are startings to give way such as the V key.
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Oh and please i Highly suggest using Philz Touch!
Code:
http://goo.im/devs/philz_touch/CWM_Advanced_Edition/hltetmo
Thats for the HLTETMO version, which is our versions in this forum, all credit to phil ofcourse, it is basically CWM, but so much more user friendly and advanced with much more options, there are two files there, you obviously want the latest version, and there are two ways to do it, if you download the tar.md5 you must use Odin, and put your phone in download/odin mode, very easily done (turn it off unplug usb and press Home+Vol Dwn+Pwr) then once the screen pops up press Vol Up and then plug the USB in, and follow the instructions of w/e tutorial you are ready, but be very careful in odin mode, if you disturb the phone while its flashing you will most likely brick it, and the .zip is considering you already have a custom recovery and you can just flash it through there.
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Ty for the explanation. Unfortunately, that is if you took the time to write that or just copied, I knew most if not all of the risks. As I said earlier I've been rooting since gingerbread.
However, it's quite informative and anybody else who is new to rooting shall find it helpful.
Kernels are more or less a bios, if you will. But they are specific to builds. You can't use aosp on tw and vice versa. There are other key features but I can't remember off the top of my head. Basically no kernel =/= no phone or no features such as camera.
You're right about the s4, but if I'm not mistaken it was believed to be an eFuse, as was for the note 3 too. Although other members have said they got it back reset, 0x0, and sim unlocks intact to fix other issues like broken gps. Therefore it is believed to be software at a signature level.
And I'll look into philz, loved it on the s3. If you ever have q's about root feel free to pm me
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Towle said:
He's not wrong. There are a couple different methods of rooting that don't require a custom recovery, therefore don't trip Knox.
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Wow... must have read that post wrong. Been working way too much. Sorry about that but looks like we have some great info added here.
Naturesretard said:
Ty for the explanation. Unfortunately, that is if you took the time to write that or just copied, I knew most if not all of the risks. As I said earlier I've been rooting since gingerbread.
However, it's quite informative and anybody else who is new to rooting shall find it helpful.
Kernels are more or less a bios, if you will. But they are specific to builds. You can't use aosp on tw and vice versa. There are other key features but I can't remember off the top of my head. Basically no kernel =/= no phone or no features such as camera.
You're right about the s4, but if I'm not mistaken it was believed to be an eFuse, as was for the note 3 too. Although other members have said they got it back reset, 0x0, and sim unlocks intact to fix other issues like broken gps. Therefore it is believed to be software at a signature level.
And I'll look into philz, loved it on the s3. If you ever have q's about root feel free to pm me
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ahh nate, i misunderstood, i thought you were new to rooting but just knew some of the basics, but were unclear of some others, but yeh, i typed that all up, no copy and paste here otherwise i would've credited the Author ^_^ but i hope it was Helpful, im sure its plastered and posted evverywhere around here, but maybe ill make a Write up somewhere to clarify things, because when i was learning, everything was scattered and i had to collect all the information.
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ahh nate, i misunderstood, i thought you were new to rooting but just knew some of the basics, but were unclear of some others, but yeh, i typed that all up, no copy and paste here otherwise i would've credited the Author ^_^ but i hope it was Helpful, im sure its plastered and posted evverywhere around here, but maybe ill make a Write up somewhere to clarify things, because when i was learning, everything was scattered and i had to collect all the information.
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You Be Surprised How Often that happens. I'd sticky if I could
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Naturesretard said:
You Be Surprised How Often that happens. I'd sticky if I could
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Hey Nate! **WAVE**
lol well i posted a new thread on it, so i hope it helps the newer guys and it'd be nice if it was stickied, like i said tho, its plastered everywhere around here and on google even, but its nice to try to help my Fellow note 3'ers