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Desire lens cover badly scratched

I like to think that I look after my handset and indeed the screen and casing are untouched. But look in bright light at the lens cover in the back cover and it has numerous very light scratches.
It must be a very soft plastic. Will it effect quality and can it be replaced?
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Remove the back cover and compare picture quality. You can see there is a massive difference. I'm having yellow tint in every pic.
Any back covers on the market with better lens cover?

Get a new back cover and cover the lens part with screen protector, thats what I recommend

That wont necisarily help, since some users have reported that the non scratch coating on the inside of the window also becomes scratched over time on some phones.

I'm going to bite the bullet soon & try the method suggested here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=764673
Worst I can do is knack my lens & if so, just buy a replacement cover. First ever time I've had anything like this on any of my phones & again, I do take care of it with screen protector & softcase...

Clean it with Displex - I had the same issue and it really worked - And Displex is only a few euros... Alternatively Brasso should also work, however I have not tested this.

I had the same issue. I think there is some layer over the plastic. I rubbed the cover with a oakley pouch for a couple minutes and the layer faded away revealing shiny plastic. I knew mine could not be really scratched. It's been fine ever since.
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Displex. Found half a tube that must be nearly 10 years old - used on a beloved Sony Ericsson T68i (first colour screen). And seems to have a worked on my Desire. Just to can't understand why it got scratched in the first place as it is slightly recessed.
Must be very soft plastic which is a disappointing economy.

Nutsonfire said:
I had the same issue. I think there is some layer over the plastic. I rubbed the cover with a oakley pouch for a couple minutes and the layer faded away revealing shiny plastic. I knew mine could not be really scratched. It's been fine ever since.
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I did the same thing. Seems like some thin layer is what gets scratched. You can remove it gently with nail (or tooth, like i did LOL)...
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No case, no screen protector..but

I am one of those who likes the phone as is.
Why cover/thicken it up? And gorilla glass sure as heck shouldn't need protection as it only reduces the sensitivity and usefulness - why buy a touch screen if you don't want to touch it in the first place.
BUT
2 days on the TGV's across France and Switzerland and boy was I cursing; the bloody phone slid everywhere ... so it made me think.
Got home and stuck 2 of those clear rubber/plastic kitchen cupboard door dome bumpers (Magnet for those in the UK) on the corners by the camera, and voila you have a non-slide phone and protects the lens at the same time.
Works for me, also helps the grip as your fingers go between the domes.
Each to their own. Hope its helps some.

major c said:
I am one of those who likes the phone as is.
Why cover/thicken it up? And gorilla glass sure as heck shouldn't need protection as it only reduces the sensitivity and usefulness - why buy a touch screen if you don't want to touch it in the first place.
BUT
2 days on the TGV's across France and Switzerland and boy was I cursing; the bloody phone slid everywhere ... so it made me think.
Got home and stuck 2 of those clear rubber/plastic kitchen cupboard door dome bumpers (Magnet for those in the UK) on the corners by the camera, and voila you have a non-slide phone and protects the lens at the same time.
Works for me, also helps the grip as your fingers go between the domes.
Each to their own. Hope its helps some.
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I also hate casing, but... I hate scratches and dents more.

I've found mine is getting scratched on the 'bump' below the samsung logo. Stupid bit of design that put the most scratchable plastic on the entire phone on the only surface that touches the table.
I like mine au naturel too but it looks like we've no choice but to use a skin or case if you don't like scratches.
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That "bump" actually stops the camera lens from getting scratched when place on a flat surface.. dunno why they didnt recess the lens though... or better still stick a lens cover on it!!
Im a case fan personally, yeah I love the look of the phone, but I want it to stay that way.. so Ill wrap it up! makes for good resale value near end of contract!

I stuck a strip of clear sellotape across the hump, prevents scratches until something better pops up

The sellotape works wonders!

I don't care scratches but the reason why I use case is the camera lens because it can be easily scratched and will take worst photo
.:SiLvErHuNk:.

I have a case an cheap one i bought on eBay and it works fine but ive ordered another one and am going to buy a screen protector - SGP Ultra Oleophobic Film which appears to be the best available, when you've spent €450 on a phone the last thing you want is for it to be scratched

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Why cover/thicken it up? And gorilla glass sure as heck shouldn't need protection as it only reduces the sensitivity and usefulness - why buy a touch screen if you don't want to touch it in the first place.
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Holy cow. Who said Gorilla Glass won't scratch? Jeez. Of course a good screen protector is recommended and also a good case which will protect the device if it drops accidentally.
Regards.

I have got a visible scratch right between the camera lens and the flash....missed both of them...Phew!!!...
so now I have a case always fitted, SP and also a cut out SP for the lens...

Back camera lense

Hi..
Im not sure if anyone else is feeling what I'm feeling, but I'm literally scared to put this phone down on a hard surface... I feel that back camera lense will get scratched quite easily...
At the moment my phone is balancing on a pair of socks...

Somewhat agree - I mean, my Desire was the same, I think I'm just conscious of the fact that this is a gorgeous device and I don't want to mark it in any way.
I have an Oakley sunglasses bag that I rest it on when face up, but mostly I just put it face down. I mean, you can attack the screen with keys and it won't scratch, so I figure face down is the safest. Plus the back of the phone looks so amazing!

Thats a good point.
Looking forward to when Casemate release their cases for this phone. Hopefully that will have some sort of protection for the lense

A day after I received mine, I'd already managed to put a small yet noticeable scratch across the camera's glass surface and its metal rim. That's despite the fact that I don't place it on hard surfaces nor pocket it without the use of the official pouch. Though I'm thinking it might be a factory defect, it can't be stressed enough how vulnerable that particular area of the device is.

Have a scratch on the metal rim also, very small but yeah on a brandnew device..
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stanny2k said:
Im not sure if anyone else is feeling what I'm feeling, but I'm literally scared to put this phone down on a hard surface... I feel that back camera lense will get scratched quite easily...
At the moment my phone is balancing on a pair of socks...
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I'm exactly the same. It's a bit frustrating to think they put all that effort into giving us the Gorilla glass 2 on the screen, extra strong plastic on the case and an easily damaged camera lens that protrudes from the back. Go figure.
It wouldn't have been quite as bad if they'd recessed the glass lens so that it's less likely to come into contact with any surfaces.
I hope those socks are clean!

Also have a scratch on mine, just by the rim. Didnt think anything of it before getting the phone but it is badly thought out imo. I would have rather the phone be a little thicker and the lense/glass better protected than it is. Ah well...
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It wouldn't have been quite as bad if they'd recessed the glass lens so that it's less likely to come into contact with any surfaces.
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I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that it is slightly recessed - by looking at pictures I don't know if it is recessed enough to properly prevent scratches, though.

Look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1577895&page=3
Discussion about how to protect your camera lens.
I applied a cut-out of the original HTC screen protector on the lens and can't see any reduction of image quality ... Hopefully it protects the lens ...

SamWhite said:
I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that it is slightly recessed - by looking at pictures I don't know if it is recessed enough to properly prevent scratches, though.
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It is recessed? Crikey, I can't see or even feel it. The surfaces most likely to scratch it are probably rough enough to reach the glass despite the microscopic recess

I bought a White Frosted Gel case. If I put the phone on a flat surface the lens is protected by the case. That is if you want a case

using an adhesive 16mm rooundpad
On the cam of the 1S the lens is slightly recessed. Unfortunately not on the 1X.
I put an anti sliding, anti vibrating pad for soundspeakers on top of of it. Sticks during daily use like a charm and is removed and put back for filming in seconds.
Yeah, really simple but effective
Edit: No way I am hiding this beast in a pouch. It shall shine and chime. The pouches are for my daughters

Hmm it is actually fractionally recessed, like a fraction of a mm. But not enough that if there was a bit of grit on the table, it wouldn't catch it. Also the plastic lens surround (silver finish), is not the same quality as the polycarbonate. So yes, it screams "scratch me" which is a bit silly considering the rest of the phone. You would actually be better to put it face down than face up on a table, but then you can't see the screen! Doh!
For those with the white phone, you could consider HTC HC C700 clip on back cover. It is basically translucent so you can still see the back through it, but it stupidly doesn't have the cut-out holes for the forthcoming docks. For that you will need HTC HC C740 clip on covers which don't have a see-through version! *sigh*

Have a look at the pouches thread in the accessories,I got a nice HTC side flip case phone still feels great in hand but the.plastic back is just enough so you can put it down and the lense does not touch the surface
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HTC One - bare / naked / without case

Are there any case haterz on this forum, who run their phones without any kind of cases / back stickers etc ?
Could you post some photos, facts, knowledge how well the phone stands everyday usage ?
I have been using case since day one, but i just can't stand it anymore. Did I buy alluminium phone to put it in rubber case or stick plastic sheet of foil on it to lose the feeling of alluminium ? No !
I drop my phone very rarely, actually i have never droppped it (knock knock), only time it hit ground it was clumsy bird's (jokin clumsy friend's hands) fault. My only concern is lens protector. On one side its nicely hidden in the rim, but at the other lens cover is protruding just a very litle bit. I am attaching picture to illustrate it a bit. It is side look.
There's a "hole" in the phone body, so the lens should be all hidden / drown and there should be 1 milimeter gap, when i place phone on table. On one side there is, on other lens is in line with body.
Grey - phone
White - gap for lens cover
Black - lens cover
Mods, please do not delete this topic - this has already happened in past (moved to accesories thread), but it get lost very easily, i try to debate with users without accesories.
Thanks

i did for apprx 4 months when i first bought the device, now i'm using crystal clear case to not to hide devices body.
i bought a case after i saw scratches on camera lens, luckly camera lens got replaced after service for red tint.
also shiny exposed alumium around the device got scratched and deformed a bit.

I also am not a fan of big bulky cases. One of the main reasons I bought this phone is because it is so damn beautiful (compared to most other phones). I've always joked about how iPhone fans typically rave about how "sleek" and "thin" their phones are, yet they walk around with them wearing the equivalent of a down-filled parka that is anything but "sleek".
I did compromise a bit, just because I want to keep my phone looking nice. I found the Cimo clear case. It is very thin, and very clear. It has just enough of a "lip" around the edge so that the screen of the phone won't contact the ground when it is lying down (or dropped on its face). The soft rubbery cushioning should also protect against dings on the corners and back, as well as prevent scratches. All without sacrificing the beauty of the phone. I paid $10 on Amazon for it.

NEH,
I did not buy a unibody aluminium finish phone to hide it behind chinese plastic covers. Thats not my style. I have pretty much the same type of use like yours. The only thing that has happened with me is that the beats audio red sticker at the behind bottom plate is now fading off. Nothing else. Just keep keys/card holder and coins in other pocket. I dont think you need a plastic cover.

When I had my One I used the HTC hard shell - minimal design but clear so you could still see the phone. Best case I had IMO
http://shop.emea.htc.com/uk/p_htc_store_product.aspx?i=251537
Whether you can still get it is another question

I've been using this case works well still shows the phones great looks and protect it all around.
HTC One

Guys, thanks for all the replies.
But this thread is strictly about naked devices - no cases at all !

well ii put a case on it.... next time its still usable years down the road

Mine has had nothing on it except a transparent skin on the back since i bought it last May. Still looks great...

Yeah I've been running mines nekkid since I got it last April, just couldn't bring myself to spend money to cover such a good looking device. Other than some wear marks around the shiny beveled edge, there's no obvious signs of age.
I'm not rough on it, but I don't baby it either. I have dropped it a few times(on purpose, just to show people how durable it is), and run my knife across the screen and back, but no damage.
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jaqual said:
Yeah I've been running mines nekkid since I got it last April, just couldn't bring myself to spend money to cover such a good looking device. Other than some wear marks around the shiny beveled edge, there's no obvious signs of age.
I'm not rough on it, but I don't baby it either. I have dropped it a few times(on purpose, just to show people how durable it is), and run my knife across the screen and back, but no damage.
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And what about lens cover ? Is yout lens completely hidden, or do you have it like me ? Hidden on one side, flush with body on the other.
Do you use any kind of pouch or something ?

never ever use a case defeats point of having such a wonderful design,have a leather pouch when not in us and just treat it like a baby when in use 6 months on still pristine not a mark
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remusator said:
And what about lens cover ? Is yout lens completely hidden, or do you have it like me ? Hidden on one side, flush with body on the other.
Do you use any kind of pouch or something ?
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My lens cover is slightly recessed, so no, not like you, but haven't had any damage to it. No pouch or anything, just keep it in my pocket with my change.
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No case.
I am careful when I lay it down on certain surfaces.
And I try *very* hard never to let it slip out of my hands and fall.
No damage due to general wear. I dented the back slightly and roughed up one corner slightly.
Totally worth it. Love the feel and thinness of the phone.

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Mine has had nothing on it except a transparent skin on the back since i bought it last May. Still looks great...
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this is how i use mine. transparent cover over the back which i only put on because the aluminum is actually very slippery for me and the clear skin provides better grip so i dont drop it. clear cover over the screen and im good to go. few small areas around the front bevel where the blue has worn away but other than that its prefect. i never use a case, defeats the purpose of having a thin phone.

I Have been using it without cover, but in December it has fallen on the road so i ordered some cheap one from the e-bay.
So now, i am using it with cover, but i lost that great metal feeling of the phone.
Here is an example with and without cover
http://i.cubeupload.com/KydqLb.jpg

I don't use a case at all makes it easier to use the volume and power button
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I use no covers, just matte screen protector (I like the way my display looks with it). Bought it in June 2013. It fell on the floor several times, it got only one scratch on the top (on the lright corner), but it still looks amazing! As it's always in my pocket, lately the "beats audio" logo on the back is going away slowly... but i use nothing to protect it

NxNW said:
No case.
I am careful when I lay it down on certain surfaces.
And I try *very* hard never to let it slip out of my hands and fall.
No damage due to general wear. I dented the back slightly and roughed up one corner slightly.
Totally worth it. Love the feel and thinness of the phone.
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+1. Dont know how long I would keep the phone. But while I have it might as well enjoy the quality feel of it.

My HTC One is about two weeks old. I love it so much, I can't bring myself to cover this baby up.
Also, I am paying for a warranty, so if anything happens to it I'll get a new one, or maybe the M8 if they run out =D

When do you buy a new glass protector?

I scratched my icarez glass protector this afternoon, I knew it was a bad ides to just throw my phone in my bag but that's why I got a protector. Now I have about a 1 inch scratch down the middle and it annoys me almost as much as if my actual screen was scratched.
Am I crazy for wanting to buy a new one now? 10$ isn't crazy but I should probably try and pace myself.

randyspants said:
I scratched my icarez glass protector this afternoon, I knew it was a bad ides to just throw my phone in my bag but that's why I got a protector. Now I have about a 1 inch scratch down the middle and it annoys me almost as much as if my actual screen was scratched.
Am I crazy for wanting to buy a new one now? 10$ isn't crazy but I should probably try and pace myself.
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I wonder what was in the bag. As all protector companies use terms like 9H hardness usually everything except sand will make such a scratch. So either they are all lying (which of course they are) or something special was in the bag (which I doubt).
Marketing BS sucks

Haha ya nothing special, some plastic headphones and some paperwork. Maybe it was a staple from that or just the zipper on the way in/out. Either way not mad one bit just amused at myself for wanting to replace the protector for doing its job and taking a scratch

I would replace it. Depending on how deep the scratch is it still turn into a crack which isn't fun.

Same i got the Nillkin 9H one, i got a small scratch on it...
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My Spigen randomly cracked on my D850, I don't think there was a scratch. Also don't forget its still glass and it will eventually break depending on how deep of a scratch it is.

The only thing I could get to scratch the protector was a serrated kitchen knife. A screwdriver, scissors, keys, etc. couldn't do it.

My Nillkin one scratched in under a week.
I was on a morning flight one day and had the phone resting on my belly/lap whilst taking a nap, when I woke up I found it scratched an inch down the centre, I think it may be from the seat belt buckle.
I ordered a bepak one as that had moulded holes around speaker grille and sensor rather than a big cutout, during the time the bepak arrived a crack formed across the top separate from the original scratch.
Never again Nillkin.

MrDerrickC said:
My Nillkin one scratched in under a week.
I was on a morning flight one day and had the phone resting on my belly/lap whilst taking a nap, when I woke up I found it scratched an inch down the centre, I think it may be from the seat belt buckle.
I ordered a bepak one as that had moulded holes around speaker grille and sensor rather than a big cutout, during the time the bepak arrived a crack formed across the top separate from the original scratch.
Never again Nillkin.
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I've ordered a Bepak one today as well... read good reviews about it till now. Lets see how it holds out. I have a tendency to keep my phone in my bag while gymming & stuff so hopefully it holds a little longer that the normal ones do.
On the main topic though, just be glad you had a screen protector on atleast! That scratch directly on the screen and it would've costed far more than 10$! Then again, you're not crazy about wanting to replace it right away.. the G3 is a piece of beauty and a scratch makes it really annoying everytime you see it.

if4ct0r said:
I've ordered a Bepak one today as well... read good reviews about it till now. Lets see how it holds out. I have a tendency to keep my phone in my bag while gymming & stuff so hopefully it holds a little longer that the normal ones do.
On the main topic though, just be glad you had a screen protector on atleast! That scratch directly on the screen and it would've costed far more than 10$! Then again, you're not crazy about wanting to replace it right away.. the G3 is a piece of beauty and a scratch makes it really annoying everytime you see it.
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In my opinion, the nillkin is probably softer then the screen itself. It scratched up too easily.
The bepak feels "harder"
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In my opinion, the nillkin is probably softer then the screen itself. It scratched up too easily.
The bepak feels "harder"
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Strange isn't it. Both mention 9H hardness. Yet one feels softer and scratches easily. I guess you cant't really trust what these guys mention on their product description.

I wouldn't worry about it as long as actual screen us not damaged. I would wait until the protector screen actually damaged or cracked.

I had my nexus 4 for over a year without a screen protector and still don't see a scratch on it.
This lg has the same glass I believe. Gorilla glass 3 I think. I don't think a screen protector is needed though maybe it would help with keeping the glass from shattering. I'm not sure though. I would get one if that is the case.
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I might take some hate for saying this, but I've always been an advocate of the plastic screen protectors. I've tried the glass, and encountered the same problems that you states, OP. I find that the plastic ones work better for me.
There was a ton of marketing and advertising for the glass stuff, but I think that it was a little over the top. The plastic is better in my opinion.

dianestory2 said:
The plastic is better in my opinion.
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How is that?
It's considerably more difficult to put on without getting bubbles.
It's considerably less panel-breaking protective.
It's considerably less scratch resistant.
It's considerably less smooth.
These, by the way, are not personal judgments but facts

Plastic screen protectors attract a crap load more finger prints and are harder to clean off compared to glass.

Cailifu brand on Amazon claims to carry a 1 year warranty. Came with the exact same inserts and application tools as the icarez
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Does the screen protector just protect from scratches or would it also help with a drop?
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I am using a glass protector for now 1.5 month and not a single scratch yet! It's however significantly thicker than plastic one! Sometimes I feel the touch less responsive.. It also catches fingerprint and dirt like a magnet lol (probably no oleophobic coating) I found the G3 screen itself very very good! your finger just slips fluently across the screen and barely catches any fingerprint! I installed one just for extra protector I'd say worth it if you don't mind cleaning your screen more frequently

Pfeffernuss said:
How is that?
It's considerably more difficult to put on without getting bubbles.
It's considerably less panel-breaking protective.
It's considerably less scratch resistant.
It's considerably less smooth.
These, by the way, are not personal judgments but facts
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1) not if done the right way
2) agreed
3) I've never ever ever had a scratch on my phone, plastic or glass
4) only a little.
For my personal lifestyle, I don't really care that much about all of that. I'm glad you are so supportive, though