DL mode + Odin, But still bricked. Need a hand. - Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Heres the deal, Ive had my original Epic4g for 2 years, I still love it but its worn out. I bought a new(used) one on ebay for cheap, ad said it freezes on boot and the owner couldn't fix it. sounded like a simple brick.
I received the phone, trying to turn it on loads the black SAMSUNG screen, the keys and soft touch buttons eventually light and then it freezes as such.
It will boot to download mode (1 + power) and will connect to ODIN, but Ive restored with various PIT/PDA combinations(follewed this guide first-> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1052813) All say "Succeed 1/ failed 0" but they never get a different result (will still freeze at SAMSUNG with captive keys lit).
Also, Ive tried flashing a CWM-5 .tar and cannot get it into recovery. (yields same result, frozen w/ captive keys lit).
I HAVE tried odin 1.???, odin 3.04, different USB cables and a different computer. I dont believe communication is my issue.

jtegg007 said:
Heres the deal, Ive had my original Epic4g for 2 years, I still love it but its worn out. I bought a new(used) one on ebay for cheap, ad said it freezes on boot and the owner couldn't fix it. sounded like a simple brick.
I received the phone, trying to turn it on loads the black SAMSUNG screen, the keys and soft touch buttons eventually light and then it freezes as such.
It will boot to download mode (1 + power) and will connect to ODIN, but Ive restored with various PIT/PDA combinations(follewed this guide first-> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1052813) All say "Succeed 1/ failed 0" but they never get a different result (will still freeze at SAMSUNG with captive keys lit).
Also, Ive tried flashing a CWM-5 .tar and cannot get it into recovery. (yields same result, frozen w/ captive keys lit).
I HAVE tried odin 1.???, odin 3.04, different USB cables and a different computer. I dont believe communication is my issue.
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Try a heavy duty blackberry cable as a last resort also remove battery and SD card if there is one. Odin again try to turn on if it still fails I would say truly hardware issue.

=( I am def using a heavy duty blackberry cable and ive had much success with it. I will try pulling the battery and SD card, thank you for that advice.
As for the hardware, Thats my big worry here, I'm hoping that's not the case... Messing with the phone, it feels like it has a missing/corrupt partition. does formatting with Odin in the PDA slot replace the boot section? (still learning what does what here ) If not, how can I reformat the boot partition?
Also, just for the sake of not giving up anytime soon, is there anyway to flash a custom rom/kernal(CM9 maybe?) through odin?

jtegg007 said:
=( I am def using a heavy duty blackberry cable and ive had much success with it. I will try pulling the battery and SD card, thank you for that advice.
As for the hardware, Thats my big worry here, I'm hoping that's not the case... Messing with the phone, it feels like it has a missing/corrupt partition. does formatting with Odin in the PDA slot replace the boot section? (still learning what does what here ) If not, how can I reformat the boot partition?
Also, just for the sake of not giving up anytime soon, is there anyway to flash a custom rom/kernal(CM9 maybe?) through odin?
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Make sure to include the PIT file included with odin. This will repartition the device and restore all as stock. We do not currently have any odinable current ROMs. I have an old EC05 froyo Odinalble prerooted rom in my archive but that is it.

It might be physical damage and not software corruption.. pretending it isn't though, verify that you're flashing the rom under PDA and not phone, frustration and desperation can make us do the most silliest mistakes.
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Shinydude100 said:
It might be physical damage and not software corruption.. pretending it isn't though, verify that you're flashing the rom under PDA and not phone, frustration and desperation can make us do the most silliest mistakes.
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Yea, ive gone at it left and right, so im pretty damn sure its hardware... Anyone have an epic with a cracked screen and good internals they wanna sell me?

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Possibility of bricking & how to avoid it..

Is anyone manage to brick the phone already?
How likely/ or stupidity you need to actually bricking the phone?
What is a NO NO and how to avoid it?
That's the question.. thanks!
Main thing is read as much as you can before you do any changes, it helps to check what few sites say.
When I rooted my phone I could not get it to run the update part, tried time and time again, one site said "rename the file to update.zip and paste it" then I read on another site to just call it update as it is already a zip file.....and then it worked, small bit of detail like that stopped it working to start with so if I was you I check a few sites and get all the info you need, but also as many would say if you are that unsure dont take the risk and wait for samsung updates with Kies.
voodoochild2008 said:
if you are that unsure dont take the risk and wait for samsung updates with Kies.
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Kies actually failed to update my phone, I have the Korean Galaxy S SHW-M100S, and it showed an update was available. So, I thought I was bricked for about 30 mins, kept trying to get it to work itself out of the problem in recovery mode, after about 4 tries (1 reboot of Windows, plus changing USB ports and 2nd try with this static new config) eventually it did, thank God.
Do not remove usb while in the middle of flashing with odin
Wanna know HOT TO BRICK YOUR PHONE? Right when ODIN start flashing, pull the battery on your phone and see what happens.
I can't even boot up!
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amerikian said:
Wanna know HOT TO BRICK YOUR PHONE? Right when ODIN start flashing, pull the battery on your phone and see what happens.
I can't even boot up!
****
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I was gonna say something along the lines of a smart ass, but I can't. That sucks.
why would you do a battery pull?
madjsp said:
I was gonna say something along the lines of a smart ass, but I can't. That sucks.
why would you do a battery pull?
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I've been flashing all night and wanted to do it "right" this time....realized my SIM and SD card were still in there mid-flash so wanted to pull them and start clean..........................
Yeah....don't do that.
Guess I'll be that "guy" paying a visit to the local AT&T shop tomorrow....
Luckily I'm w/in my 14 days since getting it....
delete. ......
amerikian said:
Wanna know HOT TO BRICK YOUR PHONE? Right when ODIN start flashing, pull the battery on your phone and see what happens.
I can't even boot up!
****
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I've removed the cable half way and rebooted, and it was fine..
You simply remove the USB cable, battery again, put the battery in, and you'll be able to get to downloader mode.
The phone seems to have a component that ODIN doesn't touch that is read-only that handles download mode. Most hardware devices tend to have safeguards. I haven't confirmed this, but I've noticed the same applies to NAS devices (which tend to have a special redboot which uses tftp).
I have still yet to have seen any evidence of anyone permanently bricking their phone, but I've seen a few cases of "oops, got it working again".
Remember, Samsung are eager to reduce their support costs, and failsafe's are cheap and easy to add.
yes, the odin doesn't touch the 'bootloader' , or the small piece of code that enable the download mode, so there's no way you can brick the phone.
I have tried to repartition the phone while flashing firmware that has nothing except the csc data (i.e. no kernel, no factory rfs, etc) and the flash procedure went succesfully but in actual fact, my phone contains a new set of partitions that contain nothing except the small csc data.
and i still able to reflash, although I must make sure that the phone is totally shutdown (i.e. take out battery, let it stay for awhile before putting back)
andrewluecke said:
I've removed the cable half way and rebooted, and it was fine..
You simply remove the USB cable, battery again, put the battery in, and you'll be able to get to downloader mode.
The phone seems to have a component that ODIN doesn't touch that is read-only that handles download mode. Most hardware devices tend to have safeguards. I haven't confirmed this, but I've noticed the same applies to NAS devices (which tend to have a special redboot which uses tftp).
I have still yet to have seen any evidence of anyone permanently bricking their phone, but I've seen a few cases of "oops, got it working again".
Remember, Samsung are eager to reduce their support costs, and failsafe's are cheap and easy to add.
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I thought in the Big FAQ, it said... do not disconnect the usb-cable but to remove the battery if want to interrupt it...
7.The phone will be flashed and once it’s finished, it will boot up. (Do NOT disconnect the usb-cable, remove the battery or otherwise interrupt this process!)
amerikian said:
Wanna know HOT TO BRICK YOUR PHONE? Right when ODIN start flashing, pull the battery on your phone and see what happens.
I can't even boot up!
****
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Similar happened to me,although I didnt pull the battery, the phone just disconnected halfway through the flash.
Had half hour of panic,where I thought it was bricked.
Had to do a few battery pulls,restart PC a couple of times and mess around with different USB ports,but finally got it working.
Have flashed a 3 times since without a problem.
chluk2425 said:
I thought in the Big FAQ, it said... do not disconnect the usb-cable but to remove the battery if want to interrupt it...
7.The phone will be flashed and once it’s finished, it will boot up. (Do NOT disconnect the usb-cable, remove the battery or otherwise interrupt this process!)
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That means you shouldn't do any of those things! So don't disconnect usb, don't remove the battery and don't interrupt the process.
zenkinz said:
yes, the odin doesn't touch the 'bootloader' , or the small piece of code that enable the download mode, so there's no way you can brick the phone.
I have tried to repartition the phone while flashing firmware that has nothing except the csc data (i.e. no kernel, no factory rfs, etc) and the flash procedure went succesfully but in actual fact, my phone contains a new set of partitions that contain nothing except the small csc data.
and i still able to reflash, although I must make sure that the phone is totally shutdown (i.e. take out battery, let it stay for awhile before putting back)
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Are you sure that flashing (through ODIN) in any case never touch that "Download Mode" piece of code ? Even you select all the options in ODIN ?
Can anyone confirm this ? Actually I want to play with Kernel and RFS (have some ideas to try) but afraid of full bricking. So if this download mode is always present then I can play with it without any problem.
Waiting for response.
amerikian said:
I've been flashing all night and wanted to do it "right" this time....realized my SIM and SD card were still in there mid-flash so wanted to pull them and start clean..........................
Yeah....don't do that.
Guess I'll be that "guy" paying a visit to the local AT&T shop tomorrow....
Luckily I'm w/in my 14 days since getting it....
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Believe me! you can still access the download menu
The bootloader is almost always writeprotected and cannot be overwritten. You would probably have to connect a cable to some internal port like Jtag to be able to reflash the bootloader section. Atleast that is the case in 99% of all bootloaders. Im very certain that you cannot cripple the bootloader.
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jackiechan8 said:
That means you shouldn't do any of those things! So don't disconnect usb, don't remove the battery and don't interrupt the process.
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gosh man, thanks correcting me but if that's the case, what should i do if it doesn't reboot by itself?
take out the battery, wait for 30 to 60 secs, put the battery in and start phone with vol down + menu + power
Don't disconnect the usb or do anything else while flashing!!!
I removed the usb cable when it started flashing (i thinked it was stuck, happens sometimes), and since it does not boot anymore. I press the power button, volUp + home + power, volDown + home + power... nothing happens.... it's dead, doesn't turn on at all...
after all i have read i think it's almost impossible to brick the sgs since you always get back into download-mode. the only case i read where i believe that it's a goner is flashing with the wrong (in this case the at&t) odin version. those guy's just got a white sreen with at&t logo at boot. they didn't get into download mode any more because the button mapping on the captivate is different ... so thats really bad luck, dont't try that at home
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after all i have read i think it's almost impossible to brick the sgs since you always get back into download-mode. the only case i read where i believe that it's a goner is flashing with the wrong (in this case the at&t) odin version. those guy's just got a white sreen with at&t logo at boot. they didn't get into download mode any more because the button mapping on the captivate is different ... so thats really bad luck, dont't try that at home
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well, mine doesn't boot at all, and i flashed (technically not, because i removed the usb cable at the very start) with the RIGHT odin version
Maybe if it fails when flashig sbl (secondary boot loader ) you can't go into download/recovery mode...

[Q] SGS2 Odin Question

During an attempt to flash a rom using odin to my rooted sgs2, odin crashed and closed before it was finished. I tried restarting odin, wouldnt see phone.
Removed battery from phone, reconnected to odin and tried using the one click odin to reflash back to stock. Also tried using odin with other roms to flash back.
Heres my problem.
When i power on the phone, it says the Galazy S2 i9100 for a few seconds, then just turns off.
I can open odin, or odin one click, plug in phone, shows me yellow w/com and added. I click start, it gets to Setupconnection and then just sits there.
I have tried
- Different roms and both one click and normal odin.
- Different usb cables
- Different usb ports
- Multiple computers
Is there any way to get past this? God i hope someone can either point me somewhere or help me out.
Reinstall Samsung Kies to your laptop or pc so the proper drivers are re-installed. Once complete with that install, plug your phone into the pc and put the phone into USB mode, hopefully the pc will recognize your phone and install the NEW DEVICE drivers after a few moments. Depending on your pc, sometimes it takes many seconds for your pc to recognize and bring up the drop down menu for the newly recognized drive. BE PATIENT. If the pc does recognize your phone, start Odin again. If Odin also see's your phone, which it now should, you should see a COM:# connection in the ID:COM box of Odin. Doesn't matter what COM # is, as long as something is there. You can now use Odin because it see's your phone. Once you start Odin flashing, make sure not to disconnect anything until you see the upper left GREEN PASS box in Odin. Once its GREEN with PASS in that box, you're finished. You can d/c your phone from the pc and the phone is probably rebooting anyway.
OFC, if your phone will not stay power'd up, all of the above is for nought. Wish I could be more helpful.
Keep in mind that I do not intend to insult intelligence but everyone has limits in experience and I always try to explain in the simplest way I can. No disrespect intended.
Good Luck!
R
Thanks for the reply,
How am i supposed to put the phone in usb mode when i cant boot it?
That does create a problem, I would do some research on a USB Jig for your phone. Search at eBay for: Samsung Galaxy S2 Epic 4G Touch USB Jig
I'm not sure if this will help a phone that will not power up but it does have its uses for Root'd phone especially using Odin to flash and to remover that nasty YELLOW Triangle that comes from ROOT ROMS that are unsign'd.
Wish I could help you further.
R
Scribes said:
Thanks for the reply,
How am i supposed to put the phone in usb mode when i cant boot it?
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Try to put in download mode if not try a jig ... If that fails it's sprint or jtag
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It does power on, basically shows the sgs boot logo (black backgroud w/ white text) then goes dark, but its actually still on cause it gets hot.
I can get it into download mode and i can get it into the android recovery.
Theres gotta be a way to recover with an update.zip from the android recovery via the sd card........
There you go, you have two of us saying about the same thing. Just make sure you get the correct JIG if you go that route. It's like $2.00 and arrives from China in like 2 weeks.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...e+for+Samsung+Galaxy+S2/i9100/i9000/T959/i897
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humm, an idling phone shouldn't get hot. That tells me you've got something going on. I think you just progress'd passed my pay grade my friend.
Heres another thing, as i mentioned in my first post.
The boot logo says i-9100....
and this is a sprint phone, isnt it a d710?
So im gussing in my late night haze i screwed myself by loading an i9100 rom/bootloader/whatever the hell that is.
Samsung calls it: I9100
Sprint calls it: SPH710
We call it: Epic 4G Touch
I see, so thats not the problem?
Im just gonna keep posting here while i mess with this incase i trigger someones mind for a fix.
(picture was here apparently i cannot post an external link yet. Was just a picture of device manager and odin sitting at SetupConnection)
The only way to get odin to see my phone, is if i open odin, put phone in download mode, plug phone in, then uninstall the com port via device manager, reinstall it. When i rescan for hardware changes, odin goes yellow as seen in the picture, i click start, then it sits at SetupConnection all day, so im guessing its losing the connection after it finds it.
My only solution here is via usb card i think, but i cant find a signed package. Cant someone just pull theirs from a stock phone? Why wouldnt that work?
Well, if you can get Odin to work, unroot to full stock with this:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ISD9AOP0
Right, getting odin to work is the real problem though i think.
Stuck at SetupConnection forever
This is super frustrating... going without a phone is impossible, work emails, texts, calls, ahhhh
..and there is no way to completely reload the entire phone using an update.zip off the sd card, one that is signed?
I know i used to do that on my droid, and all though i know this is a totally different game, i still have android recovery, one would think it would be possible if the package was signed. unsigned ones just fail, but at least i can attempt to run them from there.
If someone can find a way to do that, and it works for my phone, i will paypal $50
Let me see what I can find for ya....
I have searched two different Forums for a flashable unroot to stock with NO luck. Everything I found requires Odin. Sorry Buddy.
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the i-9100 a whole different phone??? Looking at the specs and release date I would believe so. Sounds like he did an ics update for a phone that wasn't the Sph-d710 or something..
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9100_galaxy_s_ii-3621.php
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not sure, all I know it by is: SPH 710
~ via My Epic 4G Touch & XDA'a app ~
Have you tried just flashing a kernel only in Odin
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You tried flashing ICS on your phone, didn't you? B/C I'm pretty sure that's why you are seeing I9100 while booting up. If that is the case, do a search here as there are multiple people who have done this, and none of them have been able to fix it.
Sorry, your only solution is exchange at Sprint if you can, or JTAG.
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beezar said:
You tried flashing ICS on your phone, didn't you? B/C I'm pretty sure that's why you are seeing I9100 while booting up. If that is the case, do a search here as there are multiple people who have done this, and none of them have been able to fix it.
Sorry, your only solution is exchange at Sprint if you can, or JTAG.
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does not mean he flashed ICS when you odin a kernel that is not signed ie with CWM you will get yellow triangle and it will say i9100 too ..... so does not mean he flashed ics ... if odin sees the phone on a com port he probably didnt .... try flashing a working kernel from our phone
I did attempt to flash ICS. I could find where i got it, but it was supposedly for the Epic 4G touch, aka sprint sgs2 variant.
I am a network and systems admin, i should have known better. I jumped the gun and got ahead of myself. I have rooted and put roms on the og droid, and the droid x, samsung is a different beast all together.
However, i went in to sprint the day after i did this, they looked at it, no insurance, no replacement warranty, they didnt ask me anything, and THEY determined it was a factory defect , they had me sign a sheet that said "After researching found phone to be a factory defect and the solution from SPRINT is to replace the phone. $37.41, and 22 hours later i had a brand new SGS2 in my hand.
They hadnt sent my phone in yet. I honestly am not sure if they are going to be able to tell if i did anything to it or not, i may have just hosed the bootloader enough that odin wont connect, so they probably will have to use something like jtag in house to reflash it, or replace the chip or whatever they do. Even so, if they do see that i was messing with it, and say it voided my warranty, i have a signed receipt showing my payment and agreeing to pay for the replacement at $37.41, and that THEY determined the flaw. My brother in law is a lawyer, so i asked him, because i was curious if they would look at my phone at the service center or hub or whatever, and determine it was my fault. He assured me they could try, but it would all fall back to the employee who had me sign the agreement, so even if they dont like what i did, they are beyond doing anything about it.
I doubt they will even notice it, im sure they will try to boot it, then just flash it or however they do it.
Either way, im not worried anymore.
So...someone wanna point my idiot ass to an actual good rom, with a good method, that works for my phone? lol. I cant stand touchwiz, huge icons and cant replace them ....wtf is that all about.

Is it common to brick your device?

Is bricking your device easy to happen? I'm scared of bricking my phone. Can the phone still brick when you do everything correctly?
Anything is possible.
I took chances on all my phones and never had a problem .
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MarsHD2 said:
Is bricking your device easy to happen? I'm scared of bricking my phone. Can the phone still brick when you do everything correctly?
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If you do everything correctly, most likely not. A lot of bricks occurs because of user error. Flashing the wrong Galaxy s2 ROM/recovery etc, on our devices... there are a total of 5 variants i think.. only two works with ours.. skyrocket and hercules (i727 and t989)
I haven't heard of any bricks that occurs for doing everything correctly.
I have read up on some rare cases where a phone just blacks out from normal use... from heating up... or just random stuff.. some of the users aren't even rooted. That is purely the fault of the hardware simply giving up.
It is very easy to Root our phone:
ODIN
Flash Recovery
Flash ROM or Superuser
you can even mess up on flashing the recovery but you can actually recover from it. You will get the message where it says "firmware update failed, please connect to kies and recover," this is easily recoverable.. You just go back to ODIN Mode and flash recovery again.
The only way you can BRICK the phone:
1. Flash a ROM that doesn't belong to our device.
2. Mess up on Flashing a Stock ROM (user fault) such as battery falling out.. battery dying.. cable falls out. cable is loose etc.. while in the middle of flashing.
I remember reading that people tried to flash a Modem that didn't belong to our device, but ODIN either prevented this from happening or you get the "firmware update failed..." message.
TL;DR: No it is fairly safe and the only chances of bricking is when flashing something that isn't for our phone.
1. Flash a ROM that doesn't belong to our device.
2. Mess up on Flashing a Stock ROM (user fault) such as battery falling out.. battery dying.. cable falls out. cable is loose etc.. while in the middle of flashing.
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I still don't see how those two things can mess up the phone? Can't you just use odin to reflash? You would think that they make the download portion of the phone non-writable so you can always use it with odin to reflash in any state. I must be missing something here. Does flashing a ROM mess with the "Download" partition also?
It is normally unwritable to prevent such problems. By using odin, you are bypassing the safety feature of the ROM area. By interrupting the process mid-way, you might not do not copy over all the 'necessary' files for the phone to function at it's lowest levels of operation. IE turn on when you tell it to. Flashing a rom doesn't mess with the user accessible partition.
Is using ClockWorkMod to flash any safer?
Catch-22.
If you want to use the ClockWorkMod app to flash, you will need to grant it superuser permissions. How do you get superuser? You need to be rooted by installing ClockWorkMod.. odin is pretty safe. Make sure to have a half-way charged battery (at least), and click the pda button.
True but how about subsequent flashes
Look bro its hard to brick these samsung but its not impossible trust me i know from experience, my first ever phone i rooted and played with was the galaxy s 4g and lets just say i bricked the **** out of it. think of it like this you flash a rom for a phone that is not yours this phone has a physical keyboard and the only way that phone can get into download mode is a combination of keys on the keyboard (this is just hypothetical) and the only way to get odin to recognize device is to be in DL mode...How can you be in DL with a phone that doesnt have physical keyboard but requires use of it to get into DL mode.
I've never bricked. Been in a bootloop, but just had to wipe and flash again
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jdubb1106 said:
Look bro its hard to brick these samsung but its not impossible trust me i know from experience, my first ever phone i rooted and played with was the galaxy s 4g and lets just say i bricked the **** out of it. think of it like this you flash a rom for a phone that is not yours this phone has a physical keyboard and the only way that phone can get into download mode is a combination of keys on the keyboard (this is just hypothetical) and the only way to get odin to recognize device is to be in DL mode...How can you be in DL with a phone that doesnt have physical keyboard but requires use of it to get into DL mode.
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Get a jig?
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jig didnt work on my sgs4g. And all that example was purely hypothetical, just using as example so op understands what people are trying to say.
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Get a jig?
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I tried to flash a kernel and a rom for the i9100 on mine using cwm. Flash went through just fine, went to reboot.... Nuthin. Not even a jig brought it back. Just be sure of what you're flashing and you'll be good. I've been flashing roms since the razr v3, and this is my first brick.
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zak rabbit said:
I tried to flash a kernel and a rom for the i9100 on mine using cwm. Flash went through just fine, went to reboot.... Nuthin. Not even a jig brought it back. Just be sure of what you're flashing and you'll be good. I've been flashing roms since the razr v3, and this is my first brick.
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Its tough with all the diff varients. doesnt help that they all have the exact same name too.
Props for not being one of the whiners who blames their brick on xda. hope you get a new t989.
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Just to throw this in there - if your phone does ANYTHING when you try to turn it on (soft keys light up/some sort of response from the screen), or plug it in, it is a soft brick in which you should be able to recover the phone. Many times it takes multiple tries (due to picky button combos) but it will come back. Coming from the Vibrant 3g, I can tell you from experience that you know when you have a hard brick because the phone does not respond AT ALL. It doesn't do anything when it's plugged in or when buttons are pressed. The ONLY time I've legitimately bricked a sgs was when I flashed a rom on a low battery not knowing that the phone does not charge in recovery. The battery died during reboot and the phone would not respond to anything. This is a true hard brick.
Also i'm not sure if this has been said but I would never flash anything without art least 50% battery life
The galaxy is pretty cool because of how easy it is to unbrick. All you have to do it load the stock kernel from Odin and plug up the USB, mount the sd, and place the ROM onto the sd and unmount then flash it. In the case that you install a bad ROM, if it's just the kernel then just load the stock kernel with Odin then use the one you want.
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The galaxy is pretty cool because of how easy it is to unbrick. All you have to do it load the stock kernel from Odin and plug up the USB, mount the sd, and place the ROM onto the sd and unmount then flash it. In the case that you install a bad ROM, if it's just the kernel then just load the stock kernel with Odin then use the one you want.
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that was very confusing, but I'm not sure if you really know what a true hard brick is, which is really hard to unbrick and need to do the jtag stuff.
what you addressed is a softbrick (i don't even consider this a brick because the phone turns on), which is flashing an incomplete rom or kernel that is for our device, however if it was another device's than it might lead to a hardbrick.
Teo032 said:
that was very confusing, but I'm not sure if you really know what a true hard brick is, which is really hard to unbrick and need to do the jtag stuff.
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A true hard brick cannot be unbricked. With a true hard brick the phone won't turn on and therefore, you cannot use Odin. Jtag also won't work if the phone does not turn on/the hardware buttons don't work.

Another "Stuck on the Samsung Boot Screen" Post

Hey Everyone,
I have searched the intererd and here as well and have not found any advice that has helped hence this post.
Recently my wife's epic 4g was on ACS ICS v 5.5 with the samari kernel it comes with. It started acting strange by locking in landscape mode. I rebooted it only to not be able to get into recovery or the ROM itself.
I initially was unable to get odin to recognize the phone in download mode due to usb oxidation corrosion. I took apart the phone since I saw greenish oxidation on the usb port. I used 91% rubbing alcohol to clean the motherboard of corrosion and cleaned the contacts. I opened Odin and put the phone into download mode without a SD Card or battery in.
Odin finally recognized the phone and I clicked all three buttons (Partition, reboot and F Reset). I selected the correct PIT file and selected the SPH-D700-EL30-8Gb-REL.tar.md5 file.
ODIN worked and my phone reboots after flashing. I unplug from the PC and put in the battery and press the on button. The phone the proceeds to show the SAMSUNG screen but does not progress past this screen. It restarts itself to the same screen and repeats this forever. I have tried various batteries ( ihave stock and extended) and cables with no avail. I have even tried Stock EC05 tar files. Nothing works.
Does any one have any other insight that I am missing?
Thanks in advance.
Sounds like A bad download. Download the EL30 tar fresh and try again.
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Exactly what kenny said. Just this time have reboot and repartition checked "only"
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Thanks guys. I tried your suggestions to no avail. I think one of the usb contacts aren't 100% so its enough to fool Odin into thinking its right to the NAND ok when it is in fact not.
The misses is going to sprint today to see what the can do. Oh well. Thanks for the replies.....always appreciated.
Green Andy said:
Thanks guys. I tried your suggestions to no avail. I think one of the usb contacts aren't 100% so its enough to fool Odin into thinking its right to the NAND ok when it is in fact not.
The misses is going to sprint today to see what the can do. Oh well. Thanks for the replies.....always appreciated.
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whatever you do, don't tell them it's rooted. deny to them any knowledge of root

[Q] Bricked phone and USB problem.

Before I begin, this is my first post here. I've used XDA before for help and love you guys. Now I need you more than ever. Thanks in advance for the help!
At first, my phone started to act all weird. By that I mean the Espier launcher wouldn't even load. It kept crashing. So I decided to unroot my phone. I used Odin to attempt to put the factory firmware and stuff on my phone but ended up prematurely ending the install, thus bricking my phone. When I turn my phone on I see the "Firmware upgrade encountered an issue" screen. So I did some research and attempted to fix the problem myself. After downloading and installing Kies (on three computers) I attempted to connect my phone to Kies. The USB port works, but none of my computers sees my phone. I've tried different USB ports, reinstalling Kies, using the connection debugging tool within Kies, changed the USB cable, taking the battery out, everything. If I am able to connect my phone to my computer I'll be able to fix the problem. If anyone could help me, that'd be lovely.
Can you get to download mode?
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The only USB cable I've been able to use Odin or Kies with is the original cable that came with the phone. I have a ton of other micro USB cables, they all will charge but nothing else will do any sort of data transfer. Even then, I sometimes have to change USB ports and have encountered two PCs with won't recognize the phone no matter what. Keep trying.
It's odd, because my old HTC Hero was happy to connect and charge with any cable that fit.
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The only USB cable I've been able to use Odin or Kies with is the original cable that came with the phone. I have a ton of other micro USB cables, they all will charge but nothing else will do any sort of data transfer. Even then, I sometimes have to change USB ports and have encountered two PCs with won't recognize the phone no matter what. Keep trying.
It's odd, because my old HTC Hero was happy to connect and charge with any cable that fit.
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Can you get to download mode?
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Yeah, I'm able to get into download mode. And I've also used the original cable that has provided with the phone.
Id try to odin the stock rooted kernel with what you have. I assume you still have a copy of what you rooted with... if not
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1433101
There you go.
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Id try to odin the stock rooted kernel with what you have. I assume you still have a copy of what you rooted with... if not
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1433101
There you go.
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The problem is none of my computers will detect my phone when I plug in the USB. I can't do anything else unless I can plug in my phone. I've tried installing the drivers, everything. Nothing works.
Ayotom said:
The problem is none of my computers will detect my phone when I plug in the USB. I can't do anything else unless I can plug in my phone. I've tried installing the drivers, everything. Nothing works.
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Try a brand new high quality USB cable. Once in download mode try the new cable and Odin back to stock - sfhubs one-clicks are the life saver here.
Also. Have you tried 'stock' recovery/factory reset? This may get you to a good place. Then you can install a good stock ROM with root and recovery (again check out sfhub's posts)
Factory reset via stock recovery:
Hold down the Volume Up and Power buttons simultaneously.
Continue holding the Volume Up and Power buttons until the Samsung Galaxy S II logo screen is displayed.
When the Galaxy S II logo screen is displayed, release the Power button but continue holding the Volume Up button until the Android System Recovery menu is displayed.
Once you are on the Android System Recovery menu, select the wipe data/factory reset option. Moving the selection up and down is done with the Volume Up and Volume Down buttons. Once you have the wipe data/factory reset option highlighted, you select it by touching the Home button.
Once you have chosen the factory reset option, you will see a confirmation screen. Highlight the Yes — delete all user data option and touch the Home button to select it.
The procees of wiping the phone should only take a few seconds and when it is finished, you will be returned to the Android System Recovery menu.
Highlight and select the reboot system now option.
I sound like a broken record on the USB cable thing in many of my posts but that has been a cause for so much frustration for me and countless others. And the stock cable from Sammy sucks ass too.
Good luck.
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Try a brand new high quality USB cable. Once in download mode try the new cable and Odin back to stock - sfhubs one-clicks are the life saver here.
Also. Have you tried 'stock' recovery/factory reset? This may get you to a good place. Then you can install a good stock ROM with root and recovery (again check out sfhub's posts)
Factory reset via stock recovery:
Hold down the Volume Up and Power buttons simultaneously.
Continue holding the Volume Up and Power buttons until the Samsung Galaxy S II logo screen is displayed.
When the Galaxy S II logo screen is displayed, release the Power button but continue holding the Volume Up button until the Android System Recovery menu is displayed.
Once you are on the Android System Recovery menu, select the wipe data/factory reset option. Moving the selection up and down is done with the Volume Up and Volume Down buttons. Once you have the wipe data/factory reset option highlighted, you select it by touching the Home button.
Once you have chosen the factory reset option, you will see a confirmation screen. Highlight the Yes — delete all user data option and touch the Home button to select it.
The procees of wiping the phone should only take a few seconds and when it is finished, you will be returned to the Android System Recovery menu.
Highlight and select the reboot system now option.
I sound like a broken record on the USB cable thing in many of my posts but that has been a cause for so much frustration for me and countless others. And the stock cable from Sammy sucks ass too.
Good luck.
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All the help is appreciated, I just wanted to let you know that. If my tone is bitter, I apologize. I use this phone for emergencies. I have indeed tried a high quality USB cable (just bought it) and it will not connect. I attempted to use Odin to restore my phone back to normal but the process was interrupted and caused my phone to be in the phone....!....computer screen with the message "firmware upgrade has encountered a problem" etc. I have attempted to plug in my phone while Odin opened. Nada. I've tried this in download mode using the button commands you have listed. I hope I'm not getting too annoying, I just feel so lost without my phone. Had everything on it. Sorry.
Ayotom said:
All the help is appreciated, I just wanted to let you know that. If my tone is bitter, I apologize. I use this phone for emergencies. I have indeed tried a high quality USB cable (just bought it) and it will not connect. I attempted to use Odin to restore my phone back to normal but the process was interrupted and caused my phone to be in the phone....!....computer screen with the message "firmware upgrade has encountered a problem" etc. I have attempted to plug in my phone while Odin opened. Nada. I've tried this in download mode using the button commands you have listed. I hope I'm not getting too annoying, I just feel so lost without my phone. Had everything on it. Sorry.
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Are you sure you were installing the right firmware? If you flashed an international verion then you did kill the device and will need to get it jtag'd or replaced.
And exactly how did it 'get interupted? Did it just 'stop' or was it interupted by a power outage, or impatience of quiting the appolication?
How did you get root? Did you use sfhub's autoroot?
And what ROM did you use? Again sfhub's Stock One-Clicks are the safest and only way to go in my book.
Not trying to be a **** just trying to get a better understanding of what happened.
leaderbuilder said:
Are you sure you were installing the right firmware? If you flashed an international verion then you did kill the device and will need to get it jtag'd or replaced.
And exactly how did it 'get interupted? Did it just 'stop' or was it interupted by a power outage, or impatience of quiting the appolication?
How did you get root? Did you use sfhub's autoroot?
And what ROM did you use? Again sfhub's Stock One-Clicks are the safest and only way to go in my book.
Not trying to be a **** just trying to get a better understanding of what happened.
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I might have accidentally installed the wrong firmware while attempting to repair it. Unless the different SII model firmware wouldn't hurt my phone, such as the AT&T SII.
And battery laptop died.
I had my brother root it. It used Syndicate.
And no worries dude, I'm just glad you're helping!
I am not sure if anyone specifically tried the att gs2 firmware, but since att is gsm, chances are it is the same as flashing the intl gs2 firmware. Flashing the latter would basically disable your usb port. It does sound like that is what happened.
If you still had cwm or root you could flash from the phone, but i think you mentioned you lost those too.
Your remaining options are probably jtag or return to sprint.
Thank you very much for your help. It seriously means a lot. Next time I'll pay more attention so I won't end up screwing things up again.
Well if you tried to use the AT&T SG II (SGH-I777) firmware you did probably kill it for sure. These phones are very specific and individual when it comes to the actual hardware and base firmwares. Kind of like putting diesel into a gas engine - good things don't happen. If you can't get it recognized at all no matter what you do a jtag service or simply taking it back and playing dumb might help. Here is a post with almost the same issue, just a different but still wrong firmware: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1506630 As for the guys at ACS they are very good too (most of them are around here too by the way). Spend some time and read a whole lot and you will learn what you need. Best bet if you simply can't get it recognized by Odin is to take it back to Sprint and play dumb and see if they get you a replacement. With insurance you should get it free without I think you pay $35.
This might sound a little crazy... But have you tried heimdall to see if you get dirrerent results?
Update
So I decided to check out the JTAG service. Guess what I found out? The dude that repairs phones lives 20 minutes away from me! I went over to his place yesterday and he fixed my phone right in front of me. It was totally worth the $50! His service is amazing, and he's friendly also. I would highly recommend him! Read my review (I'm John Montoya): http://mobiletechvideos.mybigcommerce.com/samsung-epic-4g-touch-jtag-brick-repair/
Thanks everyone for the help. Next time I'll be sure not to put in the wrong firmware!
LOL that's pretty funny having the mobiletechvideos guy living in your town, and getting to watch the JTAG repair in person. Not many people can say they've seen that in person, myself included. Glad you got it resolved.
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Ayotom said:
So I decided to check out the JTAG service. Guess what I found out? The dude that repairs phones lives 20 minutes away from me! I went over to his place yesterday and he fixed my phone right in front of me. It was totally worth the $50! His service is amazing, and he's friendly also. I would highly recommend him! Read my review (I'm John Montoya): http://mobiletechvideos.mybigcommerce.com/samsung-epic-4g-touch-jtag-brick-repair/
Thanks everyone for the help. Next time I'll be sure not to put in the wrong firmware!
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Glad to see you got it resolved! I've recommended that service to a few. Thanks for posting. Many don't so we never know the final outcome. This helps the whole community. Enjoy your great phone.

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