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Is there anyone else having issues with the sound of Pandora using new ROMS. I tried uninstalling it, reinstalling it, made sure high quality was set, tried to look for the media setting in the build prop and change it but that setting disappeared a few releases ago, and have searched through everything and still have a hard time listening to Pandora in the car because of the quality. I am not saying it is as poor as it was when 2.2 first came out but it is poor. The voices are tinny and turned way up is piercing to the ears. Base is great! But that is it. Any help would be greatly appreciated since I got rid of XM radio years ago and am strictly using Pandora.
Use the modded transparent unlimited skip version in the transparent market thread in theme section its in the opening post with a link all by its self at the bottom. Make sure you delete all Pandora data and cache as well as removing Pandora. Quality is perfect. I'd link it but I'm on xda app.
Also don't update it.
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If your running CM look to see if you have DSP Manager, and make sure it's not compressing the audio, or the equalizer is on. I had compression somehow turned on one time by accident. Turned it off and it was worlds better.
I haven't had an issue with the sound quality...I agree with Mithos, perhaps your DSP settings are off?
I have had an issue with Pandora over Bluetooth dropping out, though. Happens only on first connect, if I turn Bluetooth off and on again it seems to resolve the issue...
Nope did not have compression on and I have DSP. I also download slacker and it does the same thing. I guess since it is just me maybe there is osme other program that is causing the issue. Have no clue which one since it is pretty much stock
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Nope did not have compression on and I have DSP. I also download slacker and it does the same thing. I guess since it is just me maybe there is osme other program that is causing the issue. Have no clue which one since it is pretty much stock
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Just want to let everyone know, a while back I was complaining about Pandora and Slaker. I decided to try a differnt ROM just to see if it was an issue with 7 and it appears that it is. I loaded Nils' Business Sense and it sounds great. To me there is a big change and I am not sure what it is. I did try multiple kernels. The thing is it sounds OK in a headset or listening it through a speaker on the phone but putting it on the car stereo where you amplify the music you can really hear some sound artifacts.
Has anyone gotten DSP to work on ICS roms? I'm flashing the CM9 DSP Manager, and it installs fine.
Opening the application up I'm able to select presets, turn on bass boost, etc, but the sounds effects to not activate (no change in sound). They say they're enabled, but they're not.
I've tried on ROMChicago, Darkside, BulletROM. I've tried on a handful of music players to verify they were not overriding the settings.
Please don't refer me to PlayerPro or a different app to improve my sound-- I've purchased them all and tried them all, to my ears, there's no better sound than with DSP Manager setup properly.
Thanks,
TL
Works find here with beats audio mod. Only works with stock music player.
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Which rom are you using? I could not get this to work on the stock music player.
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AOKP with beats mod for the SG2 and with working DSP from CM9. I searched and found them all. I use Power amp though. I wanted to see if I can make it work, and it does
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So you can turn on a song, then open the DSP Manager UI, enable and disable bass boost, and noticeably hear the difference immediately?
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So you can turn on a song, then open the DSP Manager UI, enable and disable bass boost, and noticeably hear the difference immediately?
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Indeed, hence it works
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DSP manager dynamic range
Hi,
I installed Darkside Evolution3 v7 ROM and I noticed that dynamic range really gives good results.:good:
When I turn it ON it works fine for a second or two and then the sound gets really messy.
When the volume is changed works again and in a second it switches back to a messy sound.
To listen I have to keep pressing volume buttons up and down.
have ay idea about this?
cheers.
This may sound dumb, but did you try adjusting the effects strength. I thought dsp wasn't working for me either, then I realize that it was set on slight. After I moved it to extreme the sounds are way louder.
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This may sound dumb, but did you try adjusting the effects strength. I thought dsp wasn't working for me either, then I realize that it was set on slight. After I moved it to extreme the sounds are way louder.
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Ya Ive tried that. when I turn it to the extreme the effect is different but the same revert issue comes within 1 second ov volume change.
But if I go up use max volume (15) it stays that way but the bass is too draggy.
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Hi,
I installed Darkside Evolution3 v7 ROM and I noticed that dynamic range really gives good results.:good:
When I turn it ON it works fine for a second or two and then the sound gets really messy.
When the volume is changed works again and in a second it switches back to a messy sound.
To listen I have to keep pressing volume buttons up and down.
have ay idea about this?
cheers.
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I was just browsing through and found you're post. It's funny because I am having the very same issue with the Darkside Evolution3 v8 ROM. You did a wonderful job explaining the problem I was trying to put it in words but that's exactly what its doing. Turn the volume up it sounds great and then a second later you can hardly hear it. Some things I noticed, it only seems to happen with an audio jack headphones plugged in. I dont notice it with my car blue tooth. Also have you noticed a difference if you just turn off DSP mgr? I forced closed it and it was fine but as soon as I started that process again it had the same effect. It's quite annoying.
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I was just browsing through and found you're post. It's funny because I am having the very same issue with the Darkside Evolution3 v8 ROM. You did a wonderful job explaining the problem I was trying to put it in words but that's exactly what its doing. Turn the volume up it sounds great and then a second later you can hardly hear it. Some things I noticed, it only seems to happen with an audio jack headphones plugged in. I dont notice it with my car blue tooth. Also have you noticed a difference if you just turn off DSP mgr? I forced closed it and it was fine but as soon as I started that process again it had the same effect. It's quite annoying.
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I tried force closing it and then the sound effect is totally gone and it sounds like stock player. The issue is only with the dynamic range filter.
if its turned off the issue doesn't come up. I was hoping to upgrade to v8 due to this issue and it seems that there is no luck in that as well.
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I tried force closing it and then the sound effect is totally gone and it sounds like stock player. The issue is only with the dynamic range filter.
if its turned off the issue doesn't come up. I was hoping to upgrade to v8 due to this issue and it seems that there is no luck in that as well.
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Well, Maybe in version 9. We will see . . . . . .
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Well, Maybe in version 9. We will see . . . . . .
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Hey,
Found a solution to the dreadful issue. Install tasker and add a action which changes media volume
continuously one up and down will not effect your listening experience but will keep the effects alive.
hook the tasks up with a profile and you can make it automatic when the headset is plugged in.
I waisted whole day trying different versions of dspmanager.
Most of the files floating around just repackaged versions sometimes wrongly of basically 4 different builds.
I got 2 different packages... one is working fine with Pandora and everything else but GoogleMusic, the second is working with GM but not with Pandora... rest of the versions give either bad distorted sound or do not work at all.
I am on stock ICS. Which dsp you want?
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I waisted whole day trying different versions of dspmanager.
Most of the files floating around just repackaged versions sometimes wrongly of basically 4 different builds.
I got 2 different packages... one is working fine with Pandora and everything else but GoogleMusic, the second is working with GM but not with Pandora... rest of the versions give either bad distorted sound or do not work at all.
I am on stock ICS. Which dsp you want?
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Im on Dark side evolution v8 stock DSP manager. Beats mods are just the same as the DSP manager.
So, posting here was a last resort, but I've exhausted all my other options. I'll try to make this as concise as possible:
I just did a bluetooth/aux input retrofit for my car so I can stop using CDs for music. Aux sounds crystal clear, bluetooth with my 2nd generation iPod touch sounds crystal clear, bluetooth with my Optimus G Pro has static, crackling at certain frequencies. Doesn't sound compressed necessarily, just crackly.
What I've done:
1) Hard reset.
2) Tried both the original 4.1.2 and the new "value pack" update.
3) Actually sent my phone back to AT&T and got a refurbished one in the mail.
4) Sent my bluetooth retrofit unit back and got a new one in the mail.
5) Rooted the phone, installed freegee and twrp, and flashed the hkfriends kernel.
None of this fixed my issues. When playing the same exact song on my iPod and Android phone, the iPod wins every time.
P.S. My friend's Verizon phone (I think it's a Motorola Razr) has the same sound quality issues. Not sure of Android version, though.
Music is the absolute most important thing for me, and if I can't get this resolved I will have to switch back to Windows Phone/iPhone, despite how much I love Android. I have no knowledge or time to develop a new Rom for the G Pro and there's no telling when we'll get one that could fix my issues.
Is anyone else having these problems, or does anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks!
For some reason my phone decided to play music using "Phone Audio". I disabled phone audio for the device in bluetooth setting, then it connected as an AV signal, and quality improved drastically.
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For some reason my phone decided to play music using "Phone Audio". I disabled phone audio for the device in bluetooth setting, then it connected as an AV signal, and quality improved drastically.
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Thanks for the suggestion. Just tried it, unfortunately did not seem to make any noticeable difference for me. To clarify, the sound quality is fine for the most part, it's just at certain frequencies I hear crackling.
By the way, earlier I also edited the audio.conf file under /system/etc/bluetooth and changed the values of "SBCSources=1" and "MPEG12Sources=0" to 0 and 1 respectively, which I read should force better quality out of bluetooth. Additionally I changed the value "Master=false" to true, which I also read could improve quality. It might be my mind playing tricks on me but it does seem to sound better, however I still hear the crackling at times, so I'm definitely not where I want to be.
Highly disappointing. Any other suggestions?
Which music player are you using on your phone? And have you tried any of the equalizer apps from the market?
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I've tried both the Music app that LG includes, and Google's Play Music app, which I prefer. No difference. Have not tried any equalizers, but not quite sure what that would do aside from eliminating the frequencies that have issues through bluetooth but work fine through an aux input? I don't consider butchering the music as an acceptable solution, unfortunately.
try this, it might help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51930699
Does this help with volume output?
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Thanks for the suggestion. Just tried it, unfortunately did not seem to make any noticeable difference for me. To clarify, the sound quality is fine for the most part, it's just at certain frequencies I hear crackling.
By the way, earlier I also edited the audio.conf file under /system/etc/bluetooth and changed the values of "SBCSources=1" and "MPEG12Sources=0" to 0 and 1 respectively, which I read should force better quality out of bluetooth. Additionally I changed the value "Master=false" to true, which I also read could improve quality. It might be my mind playing tricks on me but it does seem to sound better, however I still hear the crackling at times, so I'm definitely not where I want to be.
Highly disappointing. Any other suggestions?
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Just out of curiosity - how did you find out editing the audio.conf file? I'm looking for a way to boost the output volume for my bluetooth, did a quick search and saw your post and it made me curious...
Will this change boost the output volume at all or is there a separate line or file to be edited?
Thanks for your help.
Hi,
most of the time, I'm using my phone for listening to music, and since I own Galaxy S4 Mini (GT-I9195), I'm thinking about throwing my 320€ worth smartphone in trash. Mostly I'm listening to rock music where basses are very important. When I was using stock firmware, everytime I increased the bass level, the music volume diminished. It came so far, that when I was traveling from work to home by bus, I could hear what people around me were talking to, even though my volume level was on 100%. Then I somehow increased the volume of my phone (I found a thread how to do that here on xda), but then the next problem became annoying. Almost every time I skipped the song, the equalizer settings went back to default. So every time i had to press menu button --> settings --> equalizer, and then basses went back to normal. Sometimes equalizer doesn't work at all, until I reboot my phone.
So I tried with Cyanogenmod today, and I'm even more disappointed with music quality. Every time I try to turn on bass boost, the music starts to crackle, even though bass level is only on slight. I'm using 120€ worth Sony headphones, which work great on any other device, so the problem definitely isn't in headphones.
Does anyone deal with the same problem? I just don't know what to do anymore ...
Thanks in advance & sorry for bad English.
m_010411 said:
Hi,
most of the time, I'm using my phone for listening to music, and since I own Galaxy S4 Mini (GT-I9195), I'm thinking about throwing my 320€ worth smartphone in trash. Mostly I'm listening to rock music where basses are very important. When I was using stock firmware, everytime I increased the bass level, the music volume diminished. It came so far, that when I was traveling from work to home by bus, I could hear what people around me were talking to, even though my volume level was on 100%. Then I somehow increased the volume of my phone (I found a thread how to do that here on xda), but then the next problem became annoying. Almost every time I skipped the song, the equalizer settings went back to default. So every time i had to press menu button --> settings --> equalizer, and then basses went back to normal. Sometimes equalizer doesn't work at all, until I reboot my phone.
So I tried with Cyanogenmod today, and I'm even more disappointed with music quality. Every time I try to turn on bass boost, the music starts to crackle, even though bass level is only on slight. I'm using 120€ worth Sony headphones, which work great on any other device, so the problem definitely isn't in headphones.
Does anyone deal with the same problem? I just don't know what to do anymore ...
Thanks in advance & sorry for bad English.
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Hello there.
First off, if you are going to throw S4 mini into trash, you can instead send it to me and I'll pay for the delivery, as I simply love the phone.
Secondly, I think the problem is you and not the phone. I have S4 mini and I love listening to music. As anyone who loves music (proffesionaly or unproffesionaly) knows, basses ARE NOT THE ONLY (and most) important thing, even in rock music. And as far as basses goes S4 mini does a very good job, as it does in other spectrums of music playback. The volume decreases a bit if you set it to bass, because the equalizer decreases the treble value, thus you get the perception of decreased laudnes. Although I would recommend you get your hearing checked, as the laudness of S4 mini seems to be laud enough for others.
If you really like to listen to high quality music and are a true audiophile, than you wouln't be listening to the music on S4 mini on the first place, but would go for a high quality professional grade mp3 (or FLAC) player with an external amplifier.
Therefore I conclude that you are just a bass freak who wants to complain, but please feel free to prove me wrong.
My opinion and advice may not matter since I don't own a s4 mini (would love to have it)
But did you tried sound alive from Samsung?
Just increase the bass and some clarity then reverb and room size (if you like) then the bass is on a good level, wanting more bass than that would only get in the way of the guitars part!!
Or try viper4android if you're on a desperate situation...
Can I ask something here?? Is the smart volume feature any good??
@Shiningb
Firstly, thanks for your answer. I realized that everything works perfectly with stock Samsung Music app (which doesn't use build-in equalizer, but uses it's own one). The quality of sound is really great.
Only problem is that I prefer Google Play Music which is much clearer, easyer to navigate and overall has nicer interface. But there I deal with equalizer problem; the sound is great at the moment, the equalizer is set the way I want, basses are great, but then suddenly (without particual reason) equalizer just goes flat and the volume increases for about 30% rapidly which is a great way to go deaf. Then I have to restart equalizer app, and it starts working normally again for about next 10 minutes. Until I won't find the solution, I have to use stock music app, ok, i can get along with this
I googled about the issue and I found that it is quite common with S4 users. I heard about ViPER4Android today, and I'm going to try it right now, thaniks for your advice !
And sorry, I don't know if smart volume feature works good, I use mp3gain app on my PC which equalizes volumes of all tracks on the same level and works perfectly.
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@Shiningb
Firstly, thanks for your answer. I realized that everything works perfectly with stock Samsung Music app (which doesn't use build-in equalizer, but uses it's own one). The quality of sound is really great.
Only problem is that I prefer Google Play Music which is much clearer, easyer to navigate and overall has nicer interface. But there I deal with equalizer problem; the sound is great at the moment, the equalizer is set the way I want, basses are great, but then suddenly (without particual reason) equalizer just goes flat and the volume increases for about 30% rapidly which is a great way to go deaf. Then I have to restart equalizer app, and it starts working normally again for about next 10 minutes. Until I won't find the solution, I have to use stock music app, ok, i can get along with this
I googled about the issue and I found that it is quite common with S4 users. I heard about ViPER4Android today, and I'm going to try it right now, thaniks for your advice !
And sorry, I don't know if smart volume feature works good, I use mp3gain app on my PC which equalizes volumes of all tracks on the same level and works perfectly.
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This happens with equalizer because the system kills it from the ram
So a great solution is to use viper...
But you need root and put the apk of viper into system/app set permissions to rw-r-r
Like this it won't be killed, because it will make part of the system app
By the way what kind of music do you hear??
I'm a sound freak with viper, I tunr things like crazy until I reach the perfect sound (for a time!)
I really wanted to know how the smart volume works since the I9070 won't have a official 4.2.2 update :'(
Thanks for fast answer.
I installed ViPER4Android, but everything I try to change, doesn't have any effect on sound. I don't know what is wrong ...
Could you help me with Viper? I know how to put a file in system/app and set permissions.
My phone is rooted I'm using CWM and stock android from Samsung.
My favorite artists are 30 Seconds to Mars, Billy Idol, Bring me the Horizon, Foo Fighters, HIM, Kings of Leon, Oasis, RHCP, etc.
Sry, probably really won't. I owned I9000 before I9195 and it was the best phone i ever had, even better with Cyanogenmod
Hi everyone! I've just developed an app that should fix the issue of the DAC only being usable in some apps.
Now the ESS DAC/AMP can be used in any app on your phone, including Google Play Music, YouTube, Spotify, and probably many more that I haven't tested yet.
Here's the Play Store link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.phascinate.lgv10.dacfix
It can be set to automatically turn on when the phone boots up. My goal was to make this a "set it and forget it" kind of fix. All you have to do is enable it once, and it should be fixed for good. Of course, I've only just released it so it may have some bugs. But so far it's working fine on my end.
If you have any issues or it's not working correctly, feel free to tell me here! Hope it works for you guys! I'm really loving the sound quality on this phone.
doing back up now so I can try this, very exciting news if this works
Seems like it's working in Neutron amp which has been my pain point ever since buying the phone.
Thanks!
*tested with youtube and DI.fm both seem working with the DAC with the fix
wow big deal, thanks
Tested with YouTube and XiiaLive Pro and the volume definitely changes when toggling the hifi option on and off.
It is working on Poweramp. Thanks.
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Interesting... Can the developer tell us a little more about how this works? I really didn't think it would be as simple as an app like this making it work.
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Interesting... Can the developer tell us a little more about how this works? I really didn't think it would be as simple as an app like this making it work.
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The concept is actually quite simple! Immediately when music starts playing, it plays some completely (and I mean completely! We don't want any background noise, do we?) silent media which tricks the phone into turning the DAC on.
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The concept is actually quite simple! Immediately when music starts playing, it plays some completely (and I mean completely! We don't want any background noise, do we?) silent media which tricks the phone into turning the DAC on.
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Assuming things were bit perfect to begin with, will the signal still be bit perfect?
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Assuming things were bit perfect to begin with, will the signal still be bit perfect?
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In theory, it should be. Because it's set to be silent, Android should simply completely skip over the silent media. In my own testing it doesn't seem to have had any negative effect whatsoever on sound quality. Though I'd love to see the frequency output in something like Audacity if anyone wants to test it.
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In theory, it should be. Because it's set to be silent, Android should simply completely skip over the silent media. In my own testing it doesn't seem to have had any negarive effect whatsoever on sound quality. Though I'd love to see the frequency output in something like Audacity if anyone wants to test it.
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Alrighty. Right now I'm on my lunch break at work listening with a Brainwavz HM5. Things seem good here, but I'll test tonight with my AKG Q701.
I really only use the stock music app and TIDAL which both worked without your fix, but I'll test everything out more tonight. My only concern would be a possible negative effect with apps that already worked fine, for example a silent track playing along with the regular music making things possibly no longer bit perfect, or extra battery drain for some odd reason. I'll test sound quality with my Q701 tonight and see if I notice any extra battery drain. All I can confirm at the moment is that toggling hifi on and off definitely changed the volume with apps that it didn't before.
Good work.
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Alrighty. Right now I'm on my lunch break at work listening with a Brainwavz HM5. Things seem good here, but I'll test tonight with my AKG Q701.
I really only use the stock music app and TIDAL which both worked without your fix, but I'll test everything out more tonight. My only concern would be a possible negative effect with apps that already worked fine, for example a silent track playing along with the regular music making things possibly no longer bit perfect, or extra battery drain for some odd reason. I'll test sound quality with my Q701 tonight and see if I notice any extra battery drain. All I can confirm at the moment is that toggling hifi on and off definitely changed the volume with apps that it didn't before.
Good work.
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Yeah, that was my concern too. But everything seems to be working fine.
Feel free to post your results with the Q701's as soon as you test them!
Good job, works as intended. Thanks.
Few suggestions: Show status of app running in background from top pull down menu. Also the ability to enable disable from there. Otherwise still 5 out 5. :thumbup:
man you are a genious and this is the best ever app i appreciated this year
Does this app need root permission?
Edit: nvm. Just installed and gonna test..
Thanks for the effort mate. I'll also give it a try though as a non-audiophile person, I fail to notice Hi-Fi DAC effect anyway.
for those who can distinguish the difference between DAC enabled/disabled, can you tell that's even distinguishable with the QuadBeat headphones? I'm trying with some FLAC and various music players but other than then "higher volume" I cannot notice an improvement sound wise.
I do try with the QuadBeat and Bose QC25. I also just purchased a Piston 3. Do you think it's my headphones who are not enough to make a difference?
Can you maybe recommend a song where you can clearly distinguish the performance between DAC enabled or disabled?
Amazing app, thank you very much.
Now I challenge you to check the other audio limitation of the phone.
The normal and high gain mode of the Amp depending the impedance of the headphones at the moment is completely automatic.
That's OK with IEM but there are problems with big headphones with low impedance. In those cases the normal gain mode delivers not enough power (volume) and being able to select or force the high gain mode would be a perfect solution.
At this moment the high gain mode is triggered with headphones with an Impedance over 50ohm.
Thanks anyway for this app.
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Yeah, that was my concern too. But everything seems to be working fine.
Feel free to post your results with the Q701's as soon as you test them!
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Seems to be no negative effects on SQ. Not sure on any change in battery life yet. Good so far.
Fantastic! At first I thought there would be a big battery impact since there is silent media playing, but then I remembered that only happens when there is actually music playing - fantastic implementation. Hopefully there is no battery drain. Works here for Google Play Music, so thank you very much!!!
it is working great with spotify here
I do notice the clarity with dac on and off.. however i'm using free spotify so the music stream is not high quality.
I only did notice a bug not sure because of this app or not but it never happen before.
So today i plug my phone to aux in my car in the morning everything work great.
in the afternoon i plug aux again to my car and this time my 4G or 3G writing on my signal bar is gone until i restart. This never happen before i install your apps, but seems i can't repeat this bug.
Firstly, thank you for taking the time to make this app. I just tested it with Player Pro and it seems to be working (Player Pro did work before but only if you didn't install the DSP pack). I did have one question. I noticed that the EQ is not working in Player Pro. You can open the EQ, but changing any of the frequencies or selecting a preset has no effect on the audio. Does that mean that the other audio features like Replay Gain also won't work with the app installed?